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Post by reporter911 on Jan 25, 2012 2:56:14 GMT 3
By OLIVER MATHENGE omathenge@ke.nationmedia.com Posted Tuesday, January 24 2012 at 22:30 However, State House has denied the claims and President Kibaki even sent a personal statement to the International Criminal Court (ICC) during the confirmation of charges hearings against Mr Muthaura, delinking himself from the Mungiki. (READ: Kibaki’s personal statement read in Muthaura defence) “The evidence placed before the Chamber provides substantial grounds to believe that, following these preliminary contacts, Mr Muthaura and Mr Kenyatta directly participated in a number of meetings with Mungiki leaders. In particular, the Chamber is satisfied that there are substantial grounds to believe that on 26 November 2007 a meeting was held at Nairobi State House between Mr Muthaura, Mr Kenyatta, Mungiki representatives, President Mwai Kibaki, and others,” they said in the ruling. (READ: State House and city club linked to chaos) The judges say that Mungiki was represented by Mr Maina Diambo and two other individuals they have blacked out on the ruling. Also present but whose name has been blacked out by the judges is a former central Kenya MP. “The occurrence, purpose and subject of this meeting are established, to the requisite threshold and in considerable detail, by the statement of Witness OTP 4, who was present at this meeting as a Mungiki representative,” the judges said in the ruling. During the hearings, Mr Kenyatta and Mr Muthaura argued that the evidence from the witness should be disregarded due to inconsistencies in his testimony to the Waki Commission and that given to the ICC. However, the judges said in their ruling that some of the inconsistencies cited by the defence were errors of omission that did not alter the substance of the evidence. The judges said that the inconsistency raised in relation to Mr Kenyatta’s involvement in the meeting was to be “more appropriately qualified as an omission” since the witness did not state to the Waki Commission that the Deputy Prime Minister was not present at the meeting at State House. The PNU side was represented by President Kibaki, Mr Muthaura, Mr Kenyatta, Mr Hyslop Ipu, Mr Isaiya Kabira and Mr Stanley Murage.
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NO WONDER KENYANS WERE NOT SURPRISED WHEN KIBAKI COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF UHURU AND MUTHURUA? AFTER THE ICC VERDICT.. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE STATEHOUSE MEETING WITH THE MUNGIKI GANG MEMBERS..
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 7:19:28 GMT 3
I wanted to start a seperate thread to specifically analyse the case on Uhuru/Muthaura but since there's already a lot I'll just post my thoughts here (below).
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 7:19:51 GMT 3
DISSECTING THE KENYATTA-MUTHAURA CASE
PART I At the outset, after reading the PTC II decision on Muthaura, Uhuru and Ali case, I can say it’s definitely a game changer! I wonder why media editors and legal analysts are slow in analyzing the explosive details of both cases. The majority Judge decision confirming Uhuru Kenyatta and Francis Muthaura to the trial chamber is in itself a feasibility projection suggesting possible ICC convictions (eventually) for both. That’s notwithstanding the higher evidentiary threshold of “beyond reasonable doubt” during actual trial. Should that happen, Kenya would for the first time in history, smell the likelihood of restitution for victims of violence, partly paid from frozen assets of a perpetrator with a big household name. No one should underestimate the chance that millions of Kenyans are likely relishing such spectacle of dramatic Robin-Hood Justice. Seeing the assets of Kenya’s wealthiest citizen (Uhuru Kenyatta – according to Forbes Magazine) being charged to pay compensation and restitution to his poor victims could be quite a scenario wetting the appetite of millions of Kenyans, especially the poor. Should such prospect (directly pegged on Kenya government’s cooperation with ICC) become tied with the politics of 2012 polls then voters might actually end up making a very important decision. Their powerful vote could either mean on one hand charging Kenyatta’s vast estate to benefit poor; or on the other, empowering Kenyatta to quash Kenya’s cooperation with ICC (ala Sudan’s al Bashir) alongside dreams of PEV victims.I have just seen MPs in a rushed press conference choreographed by Lewis Nguyai (Kenyatta’s side-kick) starting to shape predictable political alignments. Kenyatta’s team of Impunity (& non-cooperation with ICC) has began sounding the 2012 propagandist rallying call – ‘political enemies’ are using the ICC and foreigners to finish our own and control us! I also recently heard Mutahi Ngunyi already counting Kalenjin votes into this ‘save Kenyatta’ project. Me thinks chicken are being counted from eggs that are yet to hatch! Even if Kalenjins were to vote for Ruto in the first round, what guarantee is there that Uhuru wins round 2 amidst trickling of more negative information from ICC's chambers? I deliberately pose that question expecting that gory details of PEV pouring out of the ICC trial chambers might poison the hearts and minds of voters of goodwill, fearful of electing a de facto BOSS of the Mungiki as their next president. I recently watched a documentary in which an ailing Mombasa mother of a young man killed by a police bullet during PEV outlines her biggest priority. The elderly woman just wants Ocampo to take a statement from the Coast PC and Coast PPO during PEV to explain who gave orders for the shooting of his son. The current government has so far stonewalled such prospect, thanks to the obstinate triumvirate between the Attorney General chambers, Police and remnants of the old Judiciary. One more thing before getting into details about the case! The moment one ties the disheartening evidence from the ICC to Uhuru Kenyatta’s disastrous presiding of a Treasury dodged by a declining economy, mega corruption, ethnicised staffing, budget errors, high inflation, high interest rates, loan defaults, and a weak shilling, then a fuzzy picture begins to emerge. In this particular ICC case, I laud many of JUKWAA’s pundits who predicted this thing almost accurately. The Judges meticulously waded through Mungiki insider testimonies, NSIS reports, live witness accounts, testimony from cross-examination, statements from suspects themselves and victim representatives. I remember being chided for predicting that Judges would pay close attention (for corroboration purposes) to reports from credible sources like the KNCHR, Waki Commision, the UN (OHCHR), HRW and the ICG. What is also interesting is that the majority Judges appear to reason very much in line with many arguments I read right here in JUKWAA’s threads during the confirmation hearings. Many of us weren’t off the mark in our analyses folks! Many members thought Uhuru, Muthaura (and Ruto in the other case) wouldn’t escape confirmation. They were right on the money on purely factual hypotheses which turned out accurate! The Chamber Judges, indeed satisfied that the evidence demonstrated required threshold, established that the Mungiki did in fact carry out a planned spree of murders, rapes, forced displacements, forced circumcisions, and other inhumane acts against the civilian population of Luos, Kalenjins, and Luhyas around Nakuru and Naivasha (between 24th and 28th January 2008). The Chamber was satisfied to the requisite threshold that the attack was widespread and systematic. In addition, after thorough scrutiny, the Chamber found Mungiki to be an “organization” whose control was temporarily taken over by Uhuru and Muthaura during the period; and which carried out a “policy” of launching widespread and systematic civilian attacks against the Kalenjin, Luo and Luhya. A crucial part of the evidence came from Mungiki insiders themselves (like Witness OTP-12, OTP-4, OTP-11), some who were participants in the bloody mayhem. Interestingly, Uhuru and Muthaura suffered the greatest friendly fires from such coterie of assumed allies; not just the Mungiki insiders, but also inadvertently through the NSIS and (in the Boss’s case) the live “star” witness Lewis Nguyai.[/b] The Judges specifically highlighted one particular NSIS situation report, for 28th January 2008. It clearly reported that armed Mungiki sect members wearing AP Police uniforms were moving from house to house in Nakuru posing as Police Officers, in search of Luos, Luhyas and Kalenjins, whom they then attacked and killed! For the purposes of the present case, it is significant that: (i) (Many deaths of) Luo, Luhya and Kalenjin victims are recorded between 24 and 27 January, and a peak in recorded killings of these ethnic groups is discernible exactly during the time when the Mungiki attack is alleged to have taken place; (ii) sharp object injuries and gunshot wounds are the two most frequent causes of death listed for Luo, Luhya and Kalenjin victims in the relevant time period; and (iii) all gunshot deaths in the relevant time period were of Luo, Luhya and Kalenjin victims.
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 7:21:43 GMT 3
PART II ICC Judges actually tooth-combed all the reports (above) which were otherwise despised as ‘mere collection of hearsays’ by Uhuru and many of their sympathisers. Alongside other high-probative value evidence, Judges pinned responsibility for the retaliatory PEV attacks on Uhuru and Muthaura. That doesn’t mean Kibaki wasn’t a co-perpetrator. In fact, a careful read of the decision exposes acres dedicated to documenting incriminating State House planning meetings attended by the President himself. The ICC Judges’ dismissive treatment of Kibaki’s statement denying existence of such meeting is also telling. These Judges are big on filtering factual accounts from hogwash; even if it’s Presidential hogwash! the Chamber notes that two of them, Mwai Kibaki (D12-13) and Hyslop Ipu (D12-46), confirmed their participation on that day in the meeting with the representatives of the youth, but denied the presence of the Mungiki therein. Nevertheless, since these persons are directly mentioned by Witness OTP-4 as having participated in the meeting with Mungiki representatives, the Chamber approaches their statements with reservation and considers that the witnesses' denial cannot be regarded as decisive in the determination of this fact, in particular given the external corroboration in relation to this meeting. So without question, PTC Judges actually believe Kibaki was present in the planning meetings. What they don’t have is evidence of his direct participation - probably the old Mzee was too careful to DIRECTLY touch the bloody-operation - leaving the dirty operation to the zealous (pumbavu) lieutenants like Uhuru and Muthaura. ICC Judges have now pinned Muthaura and Kenyatta for criminal responsibility, as indirect co-perpetrators, having gained control over the Mungiki and directed them to commit the crimes. How did Uhuru and Muthaura gain control over Mungiki? According to the Judges: 368. The evidence shows that, in exchange for these concessions, Maina Njenga agreed to the common plan and placed the Mungiki at the disposal of Mr. Muthaura and Mr. Kenyatta. In this respect, the Chamber recalls that, as noted above, the Mungiki are hierarchically organized and Maina Njenga is the absolute leader of the organization.The evidence provided by Witnesses OTP-4, OTP-9, OTP-11 and OTP-12 further shows that Maina Njenga continued to act as the Mungiki top leader while in detention and that Mungiki members were directed by him to co-operate with Mr. Muthaura and Mr. Kenyatta, who, in turn, gained control of the Mungiki for the time and for the purpose of the commission of the crimes in Nakuru and Naivasha. As noted above, such control was eventually exercised when Mr. Muthaura and Mr. Kenyatta activated the Mungiki and instructed them to commit the crimes in Nakuru and Naivasha. I can’t agree more! The Judges saw this thing for what it really was. Reading that decision takes you through a scary journey involving spillage of innocent civilian blood, in the name of hanging onto presidential power! The Judges point the journey’s starting point – the chilling planning meetings at State House (26 November 2007; and 30 December 2007) between Kibaki, Muthaura, Uhuru, a number of PNU MPs, and Mungiki leaders. They even delve into the pre-election period, examining the on-and-off relationship between Kibaki’s government and Mungiki. The ICC Judges thus took notice of an earlier deal between an imprisoned Maina Njenga, (through emissaries sent by Muthaura and Kenyatta) entering into a mutual agreement that ‘stopped Mungiki extrajudicial executions’. The hawk-eyed Judges fished out a significant detail about Muthaura being called in (November 2007) to intervene when a senior Mungiki was arrested in Muranga at the time of this ceasefire. Muthaura secured that particular Mungiki leader’s release. Muthaura's powers were now being used to extend favours to Mungiki. With that background of Mungiki-State (Muthaura) cooperation, the Judges easily dissected the genesis of the retaliatory PEV.
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 7:22:27 GMT 3
PART III THE MUNGIKI-MUTHAURA-UHURU-KIBAKI (STATE HOUSE) NEXUS In the ICC Judges own words: 310. In particular, the Chamber is satisfied that there are substantial grounds to believe that on 26 November 2007 a meeting was held at Nairobi State House between Mr. Muthaura, Mr. Kenyatta, Mungiki representatives, President Mwai Kibaki, and others.
311. The occurrence, purpose and subject of this meeting are established, to the requisite threshold and in considerable detail, by the statement of Witness OTP-4, who was present at this meeting as a Mungiki representative. The witness states that, among others, a number of named individuals, both on the side of the Mungiki (Maina Diambo, REDACTED and | REDACTED|) and on the side of the PNU Coalition (Mr. Muthaura, Mr. Kenyatta, Mwai Kibaki, REDACTED, Hyslop Ipu, Isaiya Kabira and Stanley Murage) were in attendance…during this meeting, which was held in a tent at State House, Mr. Muthaura introduced the Mungiki members to the President - referring to them, throughout the entire meeting, as "the youth" - and encouraged them to inform the President of their demands in exchange for their support for his electoral campaign. One of the Mungiki representatives ( REDACTED ) then presented on behalf of Maina Njenga a number of demands to the PNU Coalition. Such demands included: (i) the cessation of extrajudicial killings of Mungiki members; (ii) the release from prison of Maina Njenga; and (iii) the recruitment of Kikuyu youths into the security and armed forces… after hearing the Mungiki demands, the President addressed Mr. Muthaura telling him "something to the effect of: 'You have heard what the youth want, so now it is upon you'". During this meeting, Mr. Kenyatta spoke as well, and told the Mungiki to fully support "the President", invoking their allegiance to the same community… Mr. Kenyatta told the Mungiki representatives that he would contact |REDACTED] and that they would organize more meetings…at the end of the meeting, Mr. Muthaura gave money to the Mungiki representatives.
312. The statement of Witness OTP-4 is independently corroborated by the statement of Witness OTP-11, who refers to a meeting held in State House on 26 November 2007, where REDACTED, Maina Kangethe Diambo, REDACTED and other named Mungiki members met with the President and agreed to support the PNU Coalition for the upcoming elections… the meeting was also convened in order to reassure the Mungiki that the individuals with whom they had been in contact that far, in particular REDACTED , were indeed acting on behalf of the PNU Coalition. Corroboration of these accounts is also provided by Witness OTP-12, who states that, as part of "Operation Kibaki Again", a group led by REDACTED a number of named Mungiki members, including REDACTED went to State House. Furthermore, Witness OTP-11 states that "Operation Kibaki Again" was a lobby group created by the Mungiki to allow campaigning while concealing their identity as Mungiki.
313. The decision that the Mungiki organization would support the PNU Coalition in exchange for several concessions as well as the nature of the "Operation Kibaki Again" as a cover group for the Mungiki operations is further reflected in the NSIS Situation Report for 28 November 2007, which states:
Some Mungiki national officials [...] have resolved to campaign for the president through a lobby group called "Operation Kibaki Again" (OKA) but on conditions that its members would be recruited into the Military/Police, restitution of the group's vehicles impounded by police and being allowed to re-open their offices/operation bases.
314. Further corroboration of the evidence concerning the meeting at State House on 26 November 2007 is provided by the summary of the statement of Witness OTP- 6, which refers to a meeting between members of the Mungiki and the "Government" held at State House prior to the elections, in which President Kibaki, in exchange for Mungiki support, promised cash rewards as well as employment within the armed forces. Finally, the Chamber notes the summary of the statement provided by Witness OTP-1 who alleges that a meeting took place between the Mungiki and Government representatives "whereby prior to the elections the Mungiki were recruited to support the PNU" and that both Mr. Kenyatta and Mr. Muthaura were involved in this meeting. That brings us to the realization that State House had probably prepared Mungiki well ahead of the elections they planned to rig. They were likely anticipating deploying the Mungiki for violent repression. I suspect State House may have been anticipating such deployment only in Kibera and Kisumu, but were caught off guard when the epicenter of initial violence turned out to be the Rift Valley (with muted violence {& demos} spread across five other provinces).
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 7:23:05 GMT 3
PART IV The Chamber traces actual PEV retaliatory violence to a significant follow-up meeting on 3rd January 2008 at Nairobi Club. After the elections and outbreak of violence in the Rift Valley, this other meeting was held. George Saitoti’s presence in this meeting is also noted by Judges. This is the point from which money disbursement from Uhuru, and subsequent mobilization ( recruitment and oathing) of Mungiki was discussed with down-payments being made. More disbursement followed later that day at Blue Springs Hotel (Thika). Kenyatta sent Sh 8 million to Njenga – out of which 2 million was to be shared with Mungiki sub-leaders. Another Sh 20 million followed, directly from Kenyatta to Maina Njenga. Meanwhile, Muthaura was so busy facilitating State resources towards Mungiki (as established by the ICC Judges)– including guns, AP uniforms, police safe-ways, including the use of State House Nakuru as a pre-staging point for the Mungiki. 364. According to Witness OTP-12, in late January 2008, before the commission of the crimes in Naivasha, Maina Njenga was given another 20 million KSh, which was brought to him in prison again by Maina Diambo and REDACTED together with REDACTED who was sent by Mr. Kenyatta for that purpose. The witness further states that it was after receiving this money that the Mungiki attacked "the Luos" in Naivasha. Witness OTP-11 also confirms that 20 million KSh were indeed given to Maina Njenga. Judges then reveal copious amounts of evidence cataloguing further role(s) of Muthaura and Kenyatta in the events leading to the commission of the crimes in or around Nakuru and Naivasha. The Judges reveal that just 4 days after the Nairobi Club and Blue Post meetings (& disbursements), the NSIS immediately noticed heightened Mungiki activity. 343. The Chamber observes that on 7 January 2008, a few days after the meeting at the Nairobi Club, the NSIS registered particular movements of the Mungiki. The NSIS Situation Report in fact reads as follows:
Mungiki sect leader John Maina Njenga has directed sect coordinators to carry out recruitment and oathing ceremonies in preparation to joining the current skirmishes in some parts of the country. Separately, sect members have intensified the acquisition of weapons with which they plan to execute the machination. Mungiki members have been employed in [REDACTED] Nakuru [REDACTED] for revenge missions. [REDACTED} The sect appears to have been revitalized for revenge missions hence the importance of sustained crackdown. It is amazing how the Judges debunk and deconstruct Muthaura and Uhuru defense testimonies. It’s splendid reading how the Judges dismiss Alfred Mutua, Hyslop Ipu, and Isaya Kabira’s uncoordinated statements with ease. They also bare out ridiculous claims such as those by Beatrice Muriithi, who alleges that Muthaura "only has one phone", and "can’t speak Gikuyu". The Judges sternly informed them, with evidence, that Gikuyu and Meru languages were in fact mutually intelligible. The Chamber outlined the essential contribution of the duo towards the heinous crimes. Judges then depicted Mungiki’s hierarchal power structure and how Muthaura and Uhuru took over its control temporarily. 378. In particular, the Chamber recalls the evidence indicating that in November 2007, Mr. Muthaura intervened to secure the release of Mungiki members who were arrested during a rally in Murang'a. During the build-up of a relationship between the Mungiki and the PNU Coalition, he received the demands on behalf of the Mungiki and was tasked with follow-up. Additionally, there is evidence that he was ultimately in control of ensuring that weapons and uniforms would be provided to the attackers in Nakuru from Nakuru State House. In this respect, the Chamber recalls its previous finding that during the attack in Nakuru the Mungiki used Administration Police uniforms and guns distributed for this purpose from Nakuru State House. The Judges also lay asunder Muthaura’s de facto authority in government – which made it possible for him to link Mungiki to State instruments. 383. … the Chamber is of the view that the evidence establishes, to the requisite threshold, the conclusion that Mr. Muthaura possessed sufficient de facto authority that enabled him to secure the institutional support for the commission of the crimes, referred to above. This conclusion is supported by the statement of Witnesses OTP-4 and OTP-11.738
405. … the Chamber is further satisfied that there are substantial grounds to believe that Mr. Muthaura's contribution also consisted of providing institutional support, on behalf of the PNU Coalition, to secure: (i) the agreement with Maina Njenga by virtue of which Mr. Muthaura and Mr. Kenyatta gained control over the Mungiki for the purpose of the commission of the crimes; and (ii) the execution on the ground of the common plan by the Mungiki in Nakuru and Naivasha. Regarding Uhuru’s specific role, the Judges found that:384. Turning now more specifically to the role of Mr. Kenyatta at the execution stage of the common plan, the evidence placed before the Chamber shows that he was in charge of the provision of financial and logistical support to the direct perpetrators of the crimes, as elaborated below.
406. Furthermore, as found above, the Chamber is also satisfied that there are substantial grounds to believe that Mr. Kenyatta's contribution also consisted of: (i) establishing links, through intermediaries, between the PNU Coalition and the Mungiki for the purposes of the commission of the crimes; (ii) contributing funds to local politicians and Mungiki leaders towards the organization of the crimes on the ground; (iii) mobilizing, through mid-level perpetrators, Mungiki members to carry out the attack in Nakuru and Naivasha; and (iv) placing the Mungiki members under the operational command of local politicians for the time and for the purposes of the commission of the crimes.
386. Concerning Naivasha, Witness OTP-11 states that Mr. Kenyatta gave REDACTED million KSh REDACTED in order for her to coordinate the commission of the crimes therein. Such provision of funds is also corroborated by the statement of Witness OTP-12. The evidence shows that REDACTED was given the logistical command of the Mungiki for the purposes of the commission of the crimes in Naivasha.
395. Witnesses OTP-11 and OTP-12 further state that some Mungiki members from Thika and Limuru left the group before arriving in Naivasha and needed to be replaced. The witnesses explain that, for this purpose, Mr. Kenyatta directly contacted a person referred to as REDACTED , who was a Mungiki coordinator in Central Province. Witness OTP-12 states that Mr. Kenyatta gave 6 million KSh to REDACTED in order to gather another group of Mungiki from Thika to participate in the attack in Naivasha. This account is corroborated by the statement of Witness OTP-11 The Chamber also dismissed the Uhuru defense claim that Mungiki was nothing but an amorphous entity. The Judges even outlined Mungiki’s quasi-judicial system of enforcement of its rules. These ICC Judges have just educated me that Mungiki actually has its own courts known as mzebu(s); and its own police; with sanctions that can be as severe as the death penalty. This Pre-Trial Chamber made it easy to appreciate how the execution of retaliatory crimes by Mungiki foot-soldiers occurred - through automatic compliance with orders from the “Boss”. They established and wrote about the chilling execution of the murders, rapes and other serious crimes. The Judges believe that most Mungiki were recruited from Thika and Limuru then transported (via Nairobi); while others were recruited locally (Naivasha and Nakuru - then oathed at Menengai Crater Forest). According to the Judges, announcements to youth recruitment into Mungiki (for purposes of retaliation-for-cash) were made throughout Central Province. Once the recruits reached Naivasha and Nakuru, they reported to point-men (Mungiki sub-leaders) who had directly received cash from Kenyatta. This was actually a stealth yet humongous operation, partly staged from the grounds of State House Nakuru. Check out the use of the secretive State House Nakuru (believe it or not) in the bloody operation:State House Nakuru
168. The evidence before the Chamber also establishes to the requisite threshold that the attackers in Nakuru utilized police uniforms and guns distributed for this purpose from Nakuru State House. Witness OTP-12 explains that Mungiki members were "called to go to State House" where "they got uniforms and guns" and that the following day they were ready to "counter the move", meaning to attack in Nakuru.
169. This statement is corroborated by Witness OTP-11, who states that military uniforms and rifles were distributed from Nakuru State House. explains that the Mungiki were given uniforms at the initiative of the "Government", to conceal the identity of the attackers and to confuse the police.
170. In addition, the NSIS Situation Report for 28 January 2008 explicitly mentions the use of Administrative Police uniforms by the attackers in Nakuru. Additionally, the use of guns by the attackers is supported by the significant number of gunshot deaths among the Luo, Luhya and Kalenjin casualties in Nakuru between 24 and 27 January 2008. Note that Judges established that use of AP Uniforms and guns was only restricted to Nakuru, but not Naivasha . Here’s a brief account per the Judges of the actual execution of the crimes after the preparations were completed:Naivasha - 27 - 28 January 2008
133. Turning to the events in Naivasha, the Chamber finds that the Mungiki attacked perceived ODM supporters in or around Naivasha on the morning of 27 January 2008, and that the attack lasted until 28 January 2008. 134. The Chamber notes in particular the evidence provided by Witness OTP-2, who directly observed the events as they unfolded on the ground… the violence started on the morning of 27 January 2008, when groups of young men armed with pangas (machetes) went around town in search of members of the Luo, Luhya and Kalenjin communities…the attackers were led to their victims' homes by local guides, where they looted the dwellings and burned the property of the residents. Outside of the town centre, houses belonging to members of the Luo and Kalenjin communities were burnt down and residents were maimed or killed…the attackers stopped people in the streets, identified their ethnicity, killed perceived ODM supporters on the spot, and forcibly circumcised Luo men… thousands of Naivasha's residents ran away from their homes and sought refuge at the town's police station and in the grounds of the nearby prison.
135. The account of Witness OTP-2 finds corroboration in other witness statements relied upon by the Prosecutor. Witnesses OTP-4, OTP-11 and OTP-12, all (former) members of the Mungiki, confirm that a Mungiki attack took place in Naivasha. Additionally, Witness OTP-10, another former Mungiki member, states that he was brought to Naivasha from Nairobi to participate in the attack.
136. The Chamber also notes the CIPEV Report, wherein it was found that "the attacks on members of the Luo, Kalenjin and Luhya communities started on 27 January 2008 and were executed in an orderly and well planned manner by a coordinated group" . Furthermore, the KNCHR Report, the HRW Report, and the OHCHR Report, all corroborate these same facts. Finally, regarding Uhuru Kenyatta’s defense claim about OTP witnesses (OTP-11 and OTP-12) being criminal extortionists, the Judges established that the evidence presented by Uhuru’s Queen’s Counsels “ manifestly did not support its allegations”. Judges made it clear that the Defence of Mr. Kenyatta was trying to rely upon “undated, unsigned, unverified, incomplete notes” to make wild extortion allegations against the OTP witnesses. The Chamber found that the documents neither revealed any extortion nor extortion attempt; concluding that no such extortion attempt occurred! Judges exposed the fallacy of Uhuru’s defense argument when they illustrated the duplicity in Lewis Nguyai’s allegation about the OTP witnesses issuing him threats and demands of cash yet Nguyai himself confirmed his continued payment of school fees for their (OTP witnesses) kids. The chamber warned it won’t entertain the matter any further. Folks, this was a serious stripping of the impunity emperors, and their palace, completely butt naked! Uhuru, Muthaura, and even Kibaki are in for a real long haul. It’s a game changer! As the AG, Ringera and the latter's hand-picked dream team of lawyers burn the midnight oil trouble-shooting possible exit routes, they need to look back where this all began.
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Post by sunday on Jan 25, 2012 9:46:55 GMT 3
Job, wow! Just wow!
I'm speechless. You've just made everything clear to me.
Which brand of scotch or whiskey do you entertain yourself with?
Inbox me ASAP you seriously need one.
Awesome job buddy. Keep it up
Gracias Amigo!
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Post by phil on Jan 25, 2012 10:09:05 GMT 3
Job,
All I can say is: kimeumana! Chances are Kibaki will one day find himself at the Hague. You can understand the reluctance to suspend Uhuru and Muthaura.
As you rightly posit, the mainstream media is intentionally asleep.
If it were that the words Mungiki could be replaced by Baghdad or Taliban, and Kenyatta replaced by Odinga, you can be sure K-24 on-the-bench would be analysing and re-assessing the charge sheet so many times over. And of course, you know which legal mind would be at that bench, dont you?
And to imagine there people actually supporting the candidature of this walord Uhuru Kenyatta!?
I notice Moses Kuria has gone mute on facebook and twitter, basically we can say these people have been put on suicide watch. Did I hear someone say we should not be VAGUE?
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Post by emali on Jan 25, 2012 10:28:33 GMT 3
Very good thread and excellent analysis Job, this kind of analysis should be inundating our print & media houses instead of Githu Muigai’s obfuscations and our lame MP’s pathetic attempts at solidarity.
Kibaki, Muthaura and Uhuru are not going to escape this especially Uhuru since the other two will retire by early next year. How is Uhuru going to manage a campaign under such ‘allegations’? And I use the term loosely because after witnessing Kibaki’s administration and the general public supposition of how events unfolded in Nakuru/Naivasha, the Judges summation of events look pretty credible.
The trial will bring all this to bear and our politics and media will not be able to hide it like they have up to this point. Initially I doubted whether these Mungiki witnesses would stand up to scrutiny or for that matter make it to trial alive, even Maina Njenga seems to be constantly living in fear but it seems they will make it & if they do and testify Uhuru will at best come out like Saitoti claiming to be a Maasai (with a very bleak political future) or at worst like O.J. Simpson (he didn’t do it right?) and that is if he is found innocent....
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Post by amunra on Jan 25, 2012 10:53:32 GMT 3
Ndugu Job, appreciate the insights and analysis of that lengthy document. no wonder the panic from the emperor and his court jesters, the kitchen is starting to heat up.
the statehouse nexus to PEV is not going away
Some people need to understand that when your name gets mentioned by the icc politically or legaly, YOU ARE IN s**t
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Post by afrigun on Jan 25, 2012 11:48:41 GMT 3
Mambo BAAAD!
Once Nguyai started talking of meetings, harambees etc, I knew Uhuru was going down. Muthaura on the other hand has been fixed by evidence which we did not get to hear during the open court sessions!
These guys had better gird themselves up for the long haul - which will most probably mean jail time, coz the evidence is quite strong!
The biggest thing to come out (or rather, to be confirmed), however is the Kibaki presence at the statehouse meeting. Many had wondered or presumed that the reason he had never been mentioned as being there was because he wasnt, or was represented by Lucy or Michuki or an anonymous activist, while he was in some other room wringing his hands on the helplessenss of the situation - in keeping with the common mistaken perception of a witless bumbling and incompetent general kiguoya!
Kumbe the guy was in [glow=red,2,300]command and control[/glow] throughout, and had laid the plans even long before the elections! He was the capo di tutti capo of THE MUNGIKI BOSS, and the other boss! HE will also be going down, sooner or later! The redacted witnesses/names are presumably out of the country, but there is one man who should be burrowing hismelf out like last week! the man formerly in prison, now saved etc .... because given the stakes involved, anybody whose name is mentioned the rulings in any conncetion with Mungiki, millions, guns or pangas, and is not alreday an accused before the ICC had better watch out, coz they are potential witnesses and therefore loose ends!!
The "commitee" set up to study the ruling is not meant for the Government, but is actually a strategic defense team for Kibaki himself!
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Post by destiny on Jan 25, 2012 12:48:43 GMT 3
Come on and get serious! Hosting the bloodthirsty Mungiki in state house? Is someone pulling my leg coz this stuff is just unbelievable and sounds like some fiction from Rambo movie, isn't that right Mr Kiraithe?
State house in Nairobi and Nakuru must be cleansed by religious leaders and as soon as possible for they will forever be haunted by the blood of innocent Kenyans who perished senselessly during the PEV.
Actually Raila was the first to link Uhuru and Njenga Karume to Mungiki when violence was going on. He must have had very credible information back then. I tried looking for that clip on Youtube but couldn't find it, helloooo.. did someone pull it down?
I hope those responsible pay for all the evil they meted on innocent Kenyans who had to pay the ultimate price simply because they were from this or that tribe. I also pray their assets will one day be seized (deja vu?) to compensate the victims.
NEVER AGAIN!
Great analyses Bwana Job, kudos.
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 18:35:00 GMT 3
1) Hyslop Ipu (and other ex State House staffers) mentioned as attendees of the State House meeting the President had with Mungiki, Uhuru, Muthaura et al., should carefully reflect at what happened to ex ECK's, Samuel Kivuitu. As soon as his usefulness was expended by the Impunity masters, he was hung high and dry - not even with pension. The same fate almost befell Maj. Gen. Ali.
Ipu has been publicly named by ICC Judges as having attended the retaliatory planning meetings. He should apply foresight and come clean, even if it means filing a sworn testimony and seeking witness protection. The Kibaki administration will not last forever.
2) Without doubt, the de facto authority wielded by Head of Civil Service, Francis Muthaura has been revealed by the ICC.
When Kibaki turns to Muthaura and declares: "You have heard what the youth want, so now it is upon you!" That tells where ultimate authority in many operational aspects of running the executive lies. I think for quite some time, Muthaura has essentially run the Presidency on behalf of Kibaki.
3) BOSS Uhuru's deep connections to the Mungiki underworld are scarier than many initially thought.
The BOSS is actually feared immensely by the ruthless Mungiki themselves. I suppose Uhuru's fate started the downward trend the moment top Mungiki coordinators during the PEV, notably former spokesman Njuguna Gitau, was assassinated in broad daylight along Luthuli Avenue. Others not publicly known had similarly been mowed down by bullets. That trend must have been the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.
These murders of potential ICC witnesses set in motion the fleeing of other Mungiki allies, fearful for their lives, who sought refuge under ICC's Witness Protection Program. To be clear, Ocampo's witness OTP-11 is a woman. If you read the Judges decision with keen eyes, you'll notice Judge Trendafilova's use of the word "her" in reference to OTP-11. She was directly receiving cash from Uhuru Kenyatta for purposes of recruiting Mungiki in Limuru and Thika.
Judges Trendafilova and Terfusser find her very credible. She must have traded useful information about PEV to Ocampo (OTP)for her own safety after witnessing Gitau assassinated. These are things that normally happen in the mafia-like underworld. When trust is broken, death is often a consequence. She decided not to wait like a sitting duck - very smart indeed.
Each piece of evidence she gives suggests she deeply participated (logistics and financial transfers) in the organization of retaliatory violence by Mungiki. She knows exactly how much cash Uhuru gave because in some of the cases, she was in fact the direct recepient of the funds. There is too much fine details she gives - for instance the defection of some Mungiki recruits from Thika, who botched before reaching Naivasha (probably over payments). Uhuru had to send her to find immediate replacements. She reports receiving another Sh 6 million from Uhuru for that specific task. She had to go back to Thika to get some more Mungiki.
She is also one of the witnesses who confirmed the State House Nakuru operation, where AP uniforms and RIFLES (in her own words) were being distributed to Mungiki.
With such explicit details, corroborated by other insiders, and even supported by NSIS reports, it's no wonder Uhuru Kenyatta went for her jugular fiercely accusing her of extortion. Uhuru's Queen's Counsel had to hire a 'British Expert' to concoct what they termed a "highly credible study" to 'prove' that she (& OTP-12) were criminal extortionists and professional liars. That became a centerpiece of Uhuru's defense strategy - attempting to damage the credibility of these Mungiki insider witnesses.
When the Judges analysed all the facts and resolutely declared the witness as credible; dismissing all allegations about extortion or attempted extortion; Uhuru's goose was cooked. This is one Mungiki woman who knew Uhuru's participation quite well. Having witnessed the assassination of her colleagues who directly involved with Uhuru; she wasn't going to wait for a bullet passing through her head. She made the right call - and like a bird, sang out all details (she knew) about retaliatory PEV to the OTP. It was either her life or Uhuru's freedom; she opted to stay alive!
4) It is probably after the realization how much the odds were stacked against him legally, that Uhuru decided to policize his case. Seeing he probably had no credible defense, it was now about politically poisoning the minds of his folks - pulling them to his defense. And what more scary monster can Uhuru use to rally his folks other than the one and only Agwambo, whom he christened Kimundu. Very effective scarecrow! Kimundu was cleverly accused of plotting with his cousin and friends in the West, to stop muthamaki from leading his people. Afterall, Uhuru's persuasive meme to his folks is that he was only 'helping' his people. Poor Kimundu is right now addressing a global forum in (yes) - the West! The mythical whisper doing rounds in Uhuru's Kameme Radio right now is that the hate figure, Kimundu, has gone to report to his Western (colonial) masters and take new instructions. You see!
When we mix the mafia-like Mungiki matters with legal ICC matters; international politics; national politics; ethnic politics; Treasury and other State functions - we end up with these dirty, murky, deadly hate festivals. Even ICC is now hated in some quarters. The West has suddenly become the Colonist again. The BOSS has gone silent, and refused to resign. Time will tell.
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 25, 2012 19:23:52 GMT 3
job,
Your analysis of the judges ruling should be a must read for Kenyans interested in getting what is at the root of the problem for the Uhuru, Muthaura axis of evil.
The judges were unequivocal that Kibaki was part of the plot having been at the meeting with Mungiki at State House. It is true as you suggest that Kibaki then took a low profile and did not direct any operations or involve himself with the fundraising and other logistic supports and networks.
Kibaki's hands off, eyes off and nose off policiy seems to have paid off for him here but the evidence is pretty damning and could lead to a lot of trouble for Kibaki.
This actually explains the absolute desperation KIbaki has shown on the ICC matter right from the beginning. It was quite telling that Kibaki "addressed the nation" by way of giving instructions to his AG and others to find ways to save the sinking ship.
I mean this is a guy who has said nothing since a court ruling with huge implications on the the next much awaited General Elections.
This is a guy who has never said anything even in the most intriguing times for the republic.
Kibaki said nothing after he lost the 2005 referendum and fired his entire cabinet to start from scratch. And yet within hours of the Hague verdict Mzee was tetemekaring already and coming up with a rescue plan which looks pretty doomed to me.
What is also interesting are the obeservations of our political retail analysists and our media. I have heard the Mutahi Ngunyi's saying this and that about Raila being quiet, or Raila being absent and endless bits and pieces about the implications of the ICC verdicts for Raila, Uhuru or Ruto in the next GE.
And yet all of them remain tight lipped and loudly quiet about the huge elephant in our collective tent called Kenya, which is the fact that our president and head of state and government has been cited by the ICC as having held a meeting in State House, no less, to plan the mass murder and rape of Kenyans. That is not a small matter by any strecth of imagination.
I can only imagine what the same media and analysists would be saying if the Prime Minister of Kenya whom they like to talk about is cited by two judges of the ICC as having been part of a plan for mass murder, rape and destruction of the country.
I checked some of the archived materials specifically the running thread as the Confirmation Hearings and one of the suggestions I made then which seems even more appropriate today is that Kenyans need to know exactly what our president was doing meeting with Mungiki at State House and planning what we now know was terroble for the country.
There is no need to wait for a hundred years for some generation in future to set up a Truth Justice and Reconciliation Commission to find out what the heck the head of state was involved with in relation to these sad events. At some point when the dust settles down Kenyans are going to need an inquiry into what really went down not just in State House but everywhere else.
There is all this talk about dealing with those whom the ICC cannto deal with. They may be more than just the spanner boys in the operations.
That said what I see around is an incredicbel amount of people in denial particularly those around the presidential candidates who are also now candidates for the Hague trial. The key players are still dancing around the reality. There is the defeaning debate about who can ran for the presidency and who can't. In my view those are irrelevant questions at the moment.
The folks will go through the motions just like they did after the summons, at first in complete denial, then going ballistics, then launching the triballistic tirades and the empty noise against the ICC and Ocampo in particular before going to the Hague coming back in a celebratory mood only to realize later that this thing is for real and calming down to the business of facing the Hague.
Right now the makelele will go on but once the cases start and folk is sitting on the dock at The Hague for rweeks or months on end this time facing facing a possible jail term at the end of the burell and a complete reversal of fortune in treasure and liberty it will down on them that the games are over and it is a fight for survival not any games about who can be president when. So let the Halloween party go on. The stakes are truly off the charts.
Great analysis my friend. Very good.
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Post by sunday on Jan 25, 2012 19:30:06 GMT 3
STATE HOUSE has denied reports indicating President Kibaki allegedly hosted Mungiki sect leaders in 2007. A statement released by the Presidential Press Service accuses Ocampo of relying on false witnesses. The statement states:
We refer to media reports in today’s (Wednesday) newspapers claiming that President Mwai Kibaki attended a meeting with members of the Mungiki sect at State House, Nairobi on November 26th 2007 and other dates. The reports have been attributed to the ICC. (READ: Kibaki attended Mungiki meeting at State House, says ICC)
As we have stated in the past no such meetings took place at State House, Nairobi and is indeed the product of the imagination of the so called anonymous prosecution witness.
The diary of events of the President on the material day of 26th November 2007 are clearly outlined in the Statehouse website. Media should feel free to access the events of the date referred to on www.statehousekenya.go.ke. You may access this through the news archives window and then click to the appropriate date.
On that material date, President Mwai Kibaki met his Kibaki Tena campaign team at State House, Nairobi, where he outlined his plans for a youth Marshall Plan. Those in attendance appear on the photo posted on the website and the same was circulated to the media by the PPS on the same day.
It is unfortunate that this grouping that brought together professionals, businessmen and youth leaders is now being branded Mungiki. It is even more erroneous to claim that Hon Uhuru Kenyatta was at this meeting because he was not as evidenced by the photograph. Soon after that meeting President Kibaki proceeded to Intercontinental Hotel where he was hosting lunch for PNU parliamentary candidates. Again this story is posted on our website. The story and pictures of the day were circulated to the media on the same day. Again media may want to cross check this by accessing the official Statehouse website.
The other alleged meeting of 30th December 2007 is yet another fallacy, because it is on this day that President Kibaki was sworn in at an event that was covered by local and international media and relayed live from State House, Nairobi.
Once again we wish to state that it is extremely unfortunate that the ICC prosecutor relied on false and anonymous witnesses to bring in the name of the President on an extremely sensitive matter of national security.
We appeal to the media to report on these facts that are clear and not to be swayed by careless statements made by the ICC chief prosecutor who has simply sought to drag in people’s names with a view to denting their credibility in the submissions through the lawyers of some of the accused. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1313862/-/8s5103/-/index.htmlThings are really thickening out there!
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 20:04:44 GMT 3
Sunday,
That Statement above (from State House) is the same presidential-hogwash that was thrown out by the ICC Judges and treated with the contempt it deserves. Kibaki is an interested party in this matter, how can he not refute such meeting? Besides, nowhere in that cheap denial is there any presentation of air-tight 24 hour alibi detailing the diary of State House.
Kibaki can deny all he want; deny PEV; deny existence of drug smuggling even within his household; deny he lost the election; deny his wife Wambui; deny his daughter Wangui; deny Mungiki were in State House...but who cares! The chickens are coming home to roost. These liars are soon learning that ICC doesn't operate like Chief Magistrate Nyamu's courts. The dark clouds of PEV will remain Kibaki's legacy - let him deal with it! Even Moi graciously handed over power in a smooth transition - strongly resisting deadly advise from his tribal kitchen cabinet. Accountability for PEV will come one way or another. Damn these fellas!
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Post by emali on Jan 25, 2012 20:06:36 GMT 3
Job as you have mentioned….OTP-11 witness is a woman, she has to be one tough lady to face up to the establishment, she has to be someone with conviction, a personal grudge and nothing to lose well I have my theory on who that may be.
Ross Kemp had a very good documentary on Mungiki…and they spoke freely to him unlike anything you will see in our own media, take a look and judge for yourselves….at the 2.00 minute mark this lady Florence sure does fit the bill…
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 25, 2012 20:14:20 GMT 3
STATE HOUSE has denied reports indicating President Kibaki allegedly hosted Mungiki sect leaders in 2007. A statement released by the Presidential Press Service accuses Ocampo of relying on false witnesses. The statement states:
We refer to media reports in today’s (Wednesday) newspapers claiming that President Mwai Kibaki attended a meeting with members of the Mungiki sect at State House, Nairobi on November 26th 2007 and other dates. The reports have been attributed to the ICC. (READ: Kibaki attended Mungiki meeting at State House, says ICC)
As we have stated in the past no such meetings took place at State House, Nairobi and is indeed the product of the imagination of the so called anonymous prosecution witness.
The diary of events of the President on the material day of 26th November 2007 are clearly outlined in the Statehouse website. Media should feel free to access the events of the date referred to on www.statehousekenya.go.ke. You may access this through the news archives window and then click to the appropriate date.
On that material date, President Mwai Kibaki met his Kibaki Tena campaign team at State House, Nairobi, where he outlined his plans for a youth Marshall Plan. Those in attendance appear on the photo posted on the website and the same was circulated to the media by the PPS on the same day.
It is unfortunate that this grouping that brought together professionals, businessmen and youth leaders is now being branded Mungiki. It is even more erroneous to claim that Hon Uhuru Kenyatta was at this meeting because he was not as evidenced by the photograph. Soon after that meeting President Kibaki proceeded to Intercontinental Hotel where he was hosting lunch for PNU parliamentary candidates. Again this story is posted on our website. The story and pictures of the day were circulated to the media on the same day. Again media may want to cross check this by accessing the official Statehouse website.
The other alleged meeting of 30th December 2007 is yet another fallacy, because it is on this day that President Kibaki was sworn in at an event that was covered by local and international media and relayed live from State House, Nairobi.
Once again we wish to state that it is extremely unfortunate that the ICC prosecutor relied on false and anonymous witnesses to bring in the name of the President on an extremely sensitive matter of national security.
We appeal to the media to report on these facts that are clear and not to be swayed by careless statements made by the ICC chief prosecutor who has simply sought to drag in people’s names with a view to denting their credibility in the submissions through the lawyers of some of the accused. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1313862/-/8s5103/-/index.htmlThings are really thickening out there! hehehehehehe. Talk about shitting bricks. Kibaki and his advisors are still trying to villify Ocampo as having relied on x,y,z. 101 in court procedings. Once the judges accept a prosecutor's evidence as true or valid, you are wasting your time fighting the prosecutor. Kibaki and co should be busy lining up insults for the two judges for daring to pin down mzee with his bloody mungiki meetings and there murderous plans for the country. Then talking about photos as evidence. Kibaki, please. If you want to be a witness (or better still a suspect) at the Hague then turn yourself in and go defend yourself. Kibaki and his confused lot are responding as if they have not read the verdict. What has Githu Muigai and his team of 10 highly paid consultants been doing? Just releasing press statements. Come on. The media is quoting minute excerpts from the ruling. If we have a real independent media in Kenya they should have combed through the ruling and laid bare the horrifying incriminating evidence to the effect that our head of state and government was knee deep in the conspiracy to commit mass murder, rape and mayhem in the country. That is what the ICC verdict says based on evidence provided to them Kibaki needs to respond to the evidence of the ruling which puts him in terrible light and at war with the victims of PEV instead of responding to the media. Kenyans seeing Kibaki's angry response are getting to now why the president and his government has been bent on protecting the perpetrators of the terrible crimes of 2007/8. That treachery has its bloody footsteps leading all the way to State House and to Kibaki's feet. It is for Kibaki that the Uhurus and Muthauras did what they felt needed to eb done to keep the king on the throne. That is where this rain started beating our country. It is good the wheels are turning in that direction. NA BADO!
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 20:17:13 GMT 3
Job as you have mentioned….OTP-11 witness is a woman, she has to be one tough lady to face up to the establishment, she has to be someone with conviction, a personal grudge and nothing to lose well I have my theory on who that may be.
Ross Kemp had a very good documentary on Mungiki…and they spoke freely to him unlike anything you will see in our own media, take a look and judge for yourselves….at the 2.00 minute mark this lady Florence sure does fit the bill… Gud lawd!!!!! emali this underworld of BOSS Uhuru's Mungiki is indeed as scary as it gets. How does one shed off history of longstanding affiliation with such passionate and hardcore criminals? Whoa!
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Post by akinyi2005 on Jan 25, 2012 20:19:21 GMT 3
great analysis job,
things are thick and the optics don't look good for kibaki. i ask again, was it worth it?
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Post by job on Jan 25, 2012 20:26:20 GMT 3
Folks,
This brings forth the cruel irony in the original statement Kibaki first gave - when the Judges' decision was read out.
Remember Kibaki talking about "our functional Witness Protection Program" (which by the way; received just 1/400th of the funds it required from Finance Minister, Uhuru Kenyatta). In today's statement, State House is referring to OTP-11 (ICC's witness) deviously as "so called anonymous witness". Is anyone smelling danger for these OTP witnesses? That's like a Cobra's hissing sound!
If Githu Muigai's dream team is the one advising on release of such statements, I'd tell them to continue hivyo hivyo! As Kibaki's State House continues making such angry and almost vengeful statements regarding the ICC process (even sneering at OTP Witnesses), a perfect case is made that any local Judicial mechanism run by these folks might in fact be selectively retributive.
Every Tom, Dick and Harry knows that potential ICC witnesses have been murdered in Kenya, starting with Mungiki's own former spokesman Njuguna Gitau. The naked emperors are continually being exposed by the ICC process. They are getting mad. They are making mistakes. Who would want them to pretend to be handling judicial matters regarding PEV which they themselves staged and executed? Give Kenyans a freaking break!!!
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Post by emali on Jan 25, 2012 20:26:37 GMT 3
Job as you have mentioned….OTP-11 witness is a woman, she has to be one tough lady to face up to the establishment, she has to be someone with conviction, a personal grudge and nothing to lose well I have my theory on who that may be.
Ross Kemp had a very good documentary on Mungiki…and they spoke freely to him unlike anything you will see in our own media, take a look and judge for yourselves….at the 2.00 minute mark this lady Florence sure does fit the bill… Gud lawd!!!!! emali this underworld of BOSS Uhuru's Mungiki is indeed as scary as it gets. How does one shed off history of longstanding affiliation with such passionate and hardcore criminals? Whoa! Indeed what a scary bunch...shows you really what Uhuru is all about to associate with them because they live by their own code...
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Post by akinyi2005 on Jan 25, 2012 20:46:47 GMT 3
when (not if) the appeals flop will these people appear for the trials? i doubt it.
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Post by 5thestate on Jan 25, 2012 21:48:34 GMT 3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 21:49:12 GMT 3
great analysis job, things are thick and the optics don't look good for kibaki. i ask again, was it worth it? "i ask again, was it worth it?" how about no!!
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