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Post by akinyi2005 on Feb 15, 2012 21:34:23 GMT 3
you treat your woman right, she will reciprocate. women from central have often complained about the negative effects of local brew on their men's virility and marriages, why then are we surprised by all the recent happenings? Akinyi, if men from Central are not up to the task & virility is all it's about, then outsource men from the rest of KE. If that's not allowable, then the ladies there need to write up an MOU with KQ stewardesses & start importing certain items. Batteries are not included... www.capitalfm.co.ke/lifestyle/2012/02/15/ladies-lay-off-that-vibrator/ Somehow I suspect the problem is deeper than that, matriarchy have been part of the culture in the past am sure you know that matriachy/polyandry/sitting on men etc. ended with wangu wa makeri right? and no, virility isn't what it's all about. man you have just stooped to a new low with the first part of your comment and i think you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
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Post by tnk on Feb 16, 2012 3:31:54 GMT 3
and some more
i think we need to also report more of the other domestic violence/abuse
i.e men against women, parents/guardians against children, against househelp, and in some cases children against (aging) parents
kenyans are getting more and more violent. there is simply no avenue or help for dealing with domestic/family misunderstanding
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Post by b6k on Feb 16, 2012 10:20:28 GMT 3
Dry wit can never have a universal audience...
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Post by nok on Feb 20, 2012 16:13:42 GMT 3
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Post by nok on Feb 20, 2012 20:06:45 GMT 3
Dealing with this problem should not be left to Maendeleo ya wanawake or wanaume. Just look at the reckless advice they are dishing out - One is saying just clob your hubby when you can - the other is reckoning that fathers and husband go to Nyama choma joints like the one at Wilson or Westi instead of going home for diner so as to punish the "wifie" NO ! This is not the way forward ! I think stakeholders should convene in a Forum where this issue should be tackled squarely. - For example, setting up a Ministry of family affairs. take a que from the germans; www.familyplatform.eu/en/home/advisory-board/german-federal-ministry-of-family-affairs-senior-citizens-women-and-youth
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Post by mank on Feb 21, 2012 21:48:13 GMT 3
Domestic violence against men is not a new phenomenon. I think what's new is that men, now more than previously, are making it public.
Society has traditionally had the view that only women get abused. Meanwhile when men were abused, they kept it in ... till when they could not hold it any more, and a murder would be reported.
With recent advances in law that have been disproportionately a boon for women, women have become bolder, while men have become even more subdued. Strangely men have turned to strange fighting tactics akin to some traditionally known to be feminine - ati all men will not eat their wives' food for 7 days. That's a group of men declaring that!
When I was home recently I learned a very sad story of a little sister of my good friend back home, who got married to a very gentle guy, got very rich, and got into the habit of abusing the guy both privately and publicly. The gentle nature of this guy made him live in submission and pain, but, as I was told, his age mates would make it worse by verbally adding salt to the wounds that the wife inflicted in him.
One day the guy knocked. He bit the woman so badly, he mercilessly cut her up, and believing that he had finished her (which clearly was the plan), took himself o the police and reported murder.
Miraculously (villagers don't think it a good miracle for anyone) the woman did not die. She was picked up, with her head almost severed, and taken to hospital where she was saved over a long time of treatment and a battery of surgeries. Now she is crippled and in a terrible shape.
Those who gave me the story advised me to avoid a spot where she could be with her caretakers, just to protect my feelings. They all say it would have been much better for her if she died. My speculation is that we will be hearing many more stories such as this pretty soon, unless as a society we find a solution to the trend that is currently under way.
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Post by subsaharanite on Feb 22, 2012 0:24:19 GMT 3
Back in the days, I heard some village guys saying that if you love your wife, then you should beat her as a sign of love. Some of the men I heard listening were known wife beaters. Im wondering if on the other side of the gender divide, women do tell their colleagues to do the same as a sign of love to their loved ones.
I bet now these women took the advice and are trying to show some love.
I pity my brothers from central. I used to think that Wangu wa Makeri was a mere myth, now I think it actually was real.
On the lighter side, lets make love to them, make them pregnant and regain our status.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 22, 2012 8:47:02 GMT 3
On the lighter side, lets make love to them, make them pregnant and regain our status. Did you just say that??? You are skating on very thin ice buddy. Onyango Oloo Administrator
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Post by nok on Feb 22, 2012 15:24:59 GMT 3
maybe instead of fighting each other we should embrace some humor at home
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 22:33:05 GMT 3
Men battering unAfrican – Ida MONDAY, 27 FEBRUARY 2012 00:04 BY JUSTUS OCHIENG PRIME Minister Raila Odinga’s wife, Ida Odinga has cautioned women against battering their husbands. Ida said the behaviour, which has been rampant in parts of Central province in the last few days, is against African culture and needs to stop as it could land women into legal problems and end up breaking families.. She decried the persistent reports of women attacking their husbands in the night with crude weapons.
Ida was speaking at Katolo Mixed Secondary School in Nyando District. She said women empowerment has nothing to do with husband battering. “Women empowerment does not in any way mean visiting violence against male counterparts,” said the PM’s wife, who is a crusader for girl child education. Ida advised married couples to seek the intervention of elders, their In-laws or the church to help solve their differences. She warned that acts of husband battering will attract a curse which will remain in the family and afflict descendants for decades. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/64201-men-battering-against-african-culture-ida-odinga
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 22:37:56 GMT 3
Ongoro speaks out on husband battery claim
MONDAY, 27 FEBRUARY 2012 00:03 BY MOSOKU GEOFFREY THE TRUTH: Kasarani MP Elizabeth Ongoro addresses the press during a media briefing on the upcoming women conference in Nairobi. Photo/Charles Kimani Nairobi Metropolitan assistant minister Elizabeth Ongoro has, for the first time, spoken about allegations that she battered her husband last year. The assistant minister has come almost six months after the incident happened to claim that the reports were part of a wider propaganda scheme targeting her. Ongoro said the allegations, which were splashed in the Star newspaper last September, were meant to tarnish her name. “This was part of an onslaught to destabilise me since I had announced my candidature for the Nairobi senator,” she said.
Ongoro's husband Ferdinand Masha was admitted to Nairobi Hospital in September reportedly after a misunderstanding between the two. When the story broke out, the assistant minister avoided any public comments leaving it to her husband who convened a press conference the following day to deny that he had been battered.
Addressing a forum dubbed 'Young Women in Governance' at a city hotel yesterday, Ongoro sought to clarify the issue. “I had worked the whole day meeting my constituents until midnight when one of my councillors Nancy Macharia of Kahawa West ward volunteered to escort me home since I was appearing exhausted,” she said. “We arrived home past mid-night and for whatever reasons, my husband just fell sick and we had to rush him to Nairobi Hospital.”
Ongoro said the doctors checked her husband and could not find any ailment, but she insisted he be admitted for further investigations and tests. She then went back home and arrived at about 6.30am feeling very restless, so she called her doctor who recommended bed rest. Ongoro said the doctor put her on a drip and confiscated her phones so that she would not do any work. When she woke up in the evening, she found the news that she had beaten her husband. “How could I, a woman carrying a pregnancy of eight and half months, assault my husband?” she posed.
The minister said she was devastated by the news and almost went into premature labour, terming the allegation as ridiculous. “I decided to ignore the reports. The media probably expected a wild reaction from me, where I could convene a press conference and refute the claims, but they were shocked by my silence.” she added.
When Ongoro later gave birth, she and her husband were photographed together celebrating their new born baby at Nairobi Hospital. “Now when I gave birth, the media was all over asking me why I had not informed them I was pregnant as if I was supposed to announce the pregnancy to the whole world,” she said Addressing young women who want to venture into politics, Ongoro said such are the challenges women leaders face as propaganda is spread against them.www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/64199-ongoro-finally-speaks-about-allegations-of-battering-husband
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 5:46:04 GMT 3
Men battering unAfrican – Ida MONDAY, 27 FEBRUARY 2012 00:04 BY JUSTUS OCHIENG PRIME Minister Raila Odinga’s wife, Ida Odinga has cautioned women against battering their husbands. Ida said the behaviour, which has been rampant in parts of Central province in the last few days, is against African culture and needs to stop as it could land women into legal problems and end up breaking families.. She decried the persistent reports of women attacking their husbands in the night with crude weapons.
Ida was speaking at Katolo Mixed Secondary School in Nyando District. She said women empowerment has nothing to do with husband battering. “Women empowerment does not in any way mean visiting violence against male counterparts,” said the PM’s wife, who is a crusader for girl child education. Ida advised married couples to seek the intervention of elders, their In-laws or the church to help solve their differences. She warned that acts of husband battering will attract a curse which will remain in the family and afflict descendants for decades. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/64201-men-battering-against-african-culture-ida-odinga Me I was lost for words, but a friend had this to say about Ida Odinga's advice."Ida Odinga has cautioned women against battering their husbands. Ida said the behaviour, which has been rampant in parts of Central province in the last few days, is against African culture" Whereas a man battering his wife is of course, argumentum e contrario, FULLY AFRICAN and entirely consistent with African culture, in her view. As one must infer from her words. Ohh. my. Gawwwwd."She warned that acts of husband battering will attract a curse which will remain in the family and afflict descendants for decades." Whereas disciplining errant wives will very likely impart a blessing, for generations to come? Right, Ida?!
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Post by mank on Mar 3, 2012 4:20:34 GMT 3
She warned that acts of husband battering will attract a curse which will remain in the family and afflict descendants for decades."
Whereas disciplining errant wives will very likely impart a blessing, for generations to come? Right, Ida?!
That's a stretch. On the other hand, I cannot resist a walk down memory lane to that time a certain woman from Nyeri slapped Hon Gtobu Imanyara, a national hero. An isolated issue, or part of a pattern?
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