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Post by mzee on Feb 14, 2012 12:21:49 GMT 3
I have never seen a guy beg to get his tarnished image back like this fellow and Tseikuru. The man is literally on his knees begging Kenyans to forgive him for being a traitor. Before you read what the article says about his begging, please see what peoples reactions are: Submitted by IsiyeNot easy to fully deny the claim when we swung like yoyos between the Hague and Local Tribunal options in the quest to run away from the law. Wikileaks has not hidden your intentions, Musyoka, although no-one should blame you for being ambitious. Who isn't?
Posted February 14, 2012 07:56 AM
Submitted by zem2011Anybody who thinks Kalonzo is not a turncoat is not a serious Kenyan voter.Kalonzo has not conducted himself in comensurate with the seat and Office he holds. He has behaved like a junior to those who are accused with crimes against Kenyan children,women and men.He lacjs a stand that creates a sense of being reliable and dependable. He looks up at the Ocampo ii instead of them looking up at him for counsel. I will instead Saitoti who dies not stoop low in order to gain. Posted February 14, 2012 07:30 AM Submitted by MtargetDoes this wiperman know that he is the VP and MP for Mwingi North? Wake up sir and talk issues and not individuals otherwise,you are in for a big shock come the elections!!
Posted February 14, 2012 06:42 AM
Submitted by kaliyeesa1[/b] Brother Kalonzo Musyoka: What do you mean by saying that your "... diplomacy" was intended to establish a local tibunal? How old are you? Do you know about what happened to Pio Gama Pinto, Ronald Ngala, Arwings's Kodhek, J.M Kariuki, Kungu Karumba, Tom Joseph Mboya, Robert Ouko? Has anyone been convicted? How about Goldenberg and Anglo-Leasing? Brother Kalonzo, I am afraid of you? Posted February 14, 2012 06:10 AM Submitted by pmusyoka6864m8Kicks Of a dying horse. Kalonzo, I am a kenyan born student in Atlanta. I visited Kenya at the same time you were out on shuttle diplomacy and spared my time to visit your constituency. While you were away, I witnessed a devastating state of poor infrastructure, ame tace to face with hunger and poverty, Your People were looking forward to the Election when they hoped you would bring them Maize, as if they are chicken. You can take your shuttle diplomacy and throw it to the sea.
Posted February 14, 2012 04:24 AM
Submitted by urlike[/b] Kalonzo credilbility is way too low!! Posted February 14, 2012 02:28 AM Submitted by ukwelitupu“We believed that a local tribunal was the best way out,†Kalonzo said. Why are they in ICC now? They chose that route. Mtoto akililia wembe, mpatie...
Posted February 14, 2012 01:45 AM[/b] www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Im+not+a+turncoat+says+Kalonzo+/-/1064/1327208/-/8ixs99z/-/index.html |
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Post by nok on Feb 14, 2012 12:58:29 GMT 3
Kalonzo Musyoka is a man not like by either friend or foe.
In the rank Ordnung it's funny that he seems to be Uk's & Ruto shamba boy.
Zero credo !
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Post by mzee on Feb 14, 2012 15:39:08 GMT 3
A presidential material does not around begging other presidential candidates to help him be president. This is the most pathetic campaign ever carried out in this republic.
Kenyans will not forget that he was the one person who helped Kibaki cement the stolen term.
The IDP will never forget that he wanted to scuttle justice with his so called shuttle diplomacy
What a waste this fellow is.
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 14, 2012 20:22:41 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 14, 2012 20:24:41 GMT 3
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Post by tnk on Feb 14, 2012 20:35:56 GMT 3
adongo was just reading that story and came across this hilarious comment == Kalonzo yesterday refused to comment. “You can't expect me to discuss with you these things while I am in the car. Please come to my office and I will gladly discuss the matter with you,” he said. The Star was unable to set up an appointment with the VP's staff by yesterday afternoon. == you just cant beat that. do these guys make this stuff up or what ;D |
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 14, 2012 23:07:22 GMT 3
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Post by akinyi2005 on Feb 14, 2012 23:43:44 GMT 3
clearly these clowns don't trust each other, why not use the national language during their hate rallies? as for poor kalonzo, try as he may, these guys just won't give him a chance. will his fortunes change once reality hits the '2 principals' and their sycophants that an ICC indictee cannot realistically run for president. |
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Post by mzee on Feb 14, 2012 23:52:02 GMT 3
Adongo,
Kajudas has never won anything on his own without katikati tactics.
A man who wants to be president of a country is behaving like uhurutos shamba boy.
Now he is being ordered by the icc fugitives to sack kalonzo or else he won't be allowed to sing praises for the warlods.
This is the most useless VP ever, even Awori was better.
This guy is a joke
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Post by tnk on Feb 15, 2012 0:04:53 GMT 3
clearly these clowns don't trust each other, why not use the national language during their hate rallies? as for poor kalonzo, try as he may, these guys just won't give him a chance. will his fortunes change once reality hits the '2 principals' and their sycophants that an ICC indictee cannot realistically run for president. i always thought that these guys welcomed dissenting opinion. now that the dissenting opinion is not going their way, they want mutula fired all because he has expressed an opinion contrary to what uhuruto want to hear they however want all their opinions heard and accommodated by everyone very interesting take when the shoe is on the other foot. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 15, 2012 0:32:50 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 15, 2012 1:19:25 GMT 3
Adongo, Kajudas has never won anything on his own without katikati tactics. A man who wants to be president of a country is behaving like uhurutos shamba boy. Now he is being ordered by the icc fugitives to sack kalonzo or else he won't be allowed to sing praises for the warlods. This is the most useless VP ever, even Awori was better. This guy is a joke This Kalonzo fiasco with the indicted chaps is just a phase of the crisis they are trying to deal with. At first it was like there is no problem nobody needed to worry about being indicted to face charges at the ICC. They thought organising rallies could wipe that out. Nope. Now they know the myth of having Uhuruto hanging around with a mob of salivating wannabes is not going to go very far. Uhuru wants to run and Ruto must run. Case closed. Not so fast. The reality is that the smart folks in the Uhuruto circus already know having some ICC suspects who are facing charges at The Hague running for the presidency of Kenya, leave alone holding any such office is a pipe dream and a nightmare for the country. It is OK to console the boys for some time but the reality is that whatever presidential ambitions any of them have are doomed outright for now. There are smart people behind these scenes who already know that. It is like taking someone to a hospice from a hospital. It is foolish to lie to them they are there to recover unless you think they are complete fools. It takes very few minutes to figure out a hospice is not a hospital. Uhuru and Ruto know that when they see all these happy people hagging them on the VIP stand. It is a good bye not a welcome home kind of gesture. Then there was the hail mary pass to hope that Mudavadi could be an option. At least if he could get Raila out of the picture that could make the boys sleep easy. That too is not going according to plan and it gets even more messy with Musyoka being kicked around. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. This is a guy who was at the heart of the PNU Think Tank in 2007 so he knows what he is talking about. He is not just an online heckler. The fellow told me there is real fear that Raila if he became the president and Uhuru and Ruto are convicted (which many in the know say is very likely), he would get them locked up. This he told me is the mad fear that drives those boys (including Kibaki) and some of their supporters nuts. These guys could support my neighbour's annoying dog to be the president if that could help with Raila, which begs the question, why are they so mad with Kalonzo? Well it seems to me that has much more to do with political dynamics than real politic. But these things have a habit of taking a life of their own and right now Kalonzo is in a pickle with the mobsters. Which bring us to Ralph my son. Could he fit the bill? I doubt it and the problem these guys are going to face is that the more they try to play poker with the country and take the citizens of the republic for granted as if they were just born to please Ruto and Uhuru the less their political weight becomes. Never mind that most Ruto supporters seem to have a problem with supporting Uhuru and vice versa. The real games have not even began yet, but we can take in the rehearsals for now. |
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Post by tnk on Feb 15, 2012 1:59:29 GMT 3
I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. This is a guy who was at the heart of the PNU Think Tank in 2007 so he knows what he is talking about. He is not just an online heckler. The fellow told me there is real fear that Raila if he became the president and Uhuru and Ruto are convicted (which many in the know say is very likely), he would get them locked up. This he told me is the mad fear that drives those boys (including Kibaki) and some of their supporters nuts. no one just goes around locking people up what are they afraid of? what did they do such that they are so sure of being locked up? and who are they? am kind of curious. all along thought this was just propaganda, but it appears that some people did some seriously wrong stuff and are using others as a shield |
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 15, 2012 2:24:44 GMT 3
I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. This is a guy who was at the heart of the PNU Think Tank in 2007 so he knows what he is talking about. He is not just an online heckler. The fellow told me there is real fear that Raila if he became the president and Uhuru and Ruto are convicted (which many in the know say is very likely), he would get them locked up. This he told me is the mad fear that drives those boys (including Kibaki) and some of their supporters nuts. no one just goes around locking people up what are they afraid of? what did they do such that they are so sure of being locked up? and who are they? am kind of curious. all along thought this was just propaganda, but it appears that some people did some seriously wrong stuff and are using others as a shield My friend is very familiar with the Rift Valley. He knows a friend of one one of our big name politicians in Nakuru who was known to the "warriors" as an organizer of self defense among the Kikuyu communities who got lured and killed way before the elections. In his assessment Ruto is dead meat as far as the ICC is concerned. In terms of Uhuru of course they will tell you privately that this was Kibaki's operation. They did what they thought they had to do to keep the king in power. That is a different story. What this guy says is that they (PNU damu) have confidence that in case of conviction Kibaki would never send the mob to The Hague. He would rather let them abscond. But Kibaki is going now and they think Raila if he was the president would not let the boys play. That is a very big deal for them and a whole bunch of folks out there who know the ICC cases are not jokes. |
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Post by job on Feb 15, 2012 2:35:41 GMT 3
...and how about this?
Ruto wants his prayer-rally buddy Kalonzo to join Kibaki and Raila at the Hague dock!
www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/62227-uhuru-vows-to-prove-his-innocence-at-icc
Uhuru vows to prove his innocence at ICC
MONDAY, 13 FEBRUARY 2012 13:01 BY NJENGA GICHEHA
Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta has vowed to put mechanisms in place to defend himself at the International Criminal Court, cautioned whites against meddling with Kenyan affairs. Uhuru said he was ready to comply with the law and that he and Eldoret North MP William Ruto are not agents of impunity as portrayed by The Hague charges.
He accused foreigners of interfering with the affairs of Kenyans, adding that the country can do well without their funds and contributions. Uhuru was speaking during a prayer meeting held at Ngong Stadium in Kajiado North constituency on Saturday. The meeting was attended by MPs from Rift Valley, Western, Nyanza, Coast and Central provinces. “I will defend myself because even after we were confirmed, I complied and followed the law.
There was no violence and we are still upholding and preaching peace in these prayer rallies that we are doing across the country,” said Uhuru. “I was told that I am a leader promoting impunity. If I was, could I have gone to the ICC? We could have said no. It’s being said that we led the 2007 war but we are leaders who have always accepted defeat whenever others win,” he said.
The DPM blamed foreign countries for promoting impunity in Kenya saying that he only vied for the presidency in year 2002, but accepted defeat to President Kibaki. He defended himself saying that in 2007, he was not a presidential candidate but only vied for parliamentary seat for Gatundu South and he was not answerable for the chaos.
Uhuru said, “the foreign countries are saying that they fight impunity but they are blaming it on us. In 2002, I vied for presidency together with President Mwai Kibaki and I accepted defeat and during referendum, Ruto accepted defeat. In 2007 I was not vying but only for a parliamentary seat,” said
Uhuru. “Later, they said that we have a case to answer and when my name appeared, I followed the law and said we did not need any more fights and we went to answer the charges. We are ready even after we appeal to continue with the case.” “We are telling the whites to live with their monies. The razor blade that chopped him off during the independence days will do the same this time. If we join hands, we do not have to borrow money from them,” said Uhuru.
In reference to foreigners the DPM said “they should only come do tourism and business, but respect the people of Kenya, They will not intimidate us but shall go forth".
Ruto said they are not supposed to be in The Hague trial but Kibaki, Prime Minister Raila Odinga and Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka are answerable to the chaos charges. "Kibaki, Kalonzo and Raila are the three people who know much than we do because I and Uhuru did not participate in the presidency race. They are the ones who should be charged," said Ruto.
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Post by tnk on Feb 15, 2012 3:47:41 GMT 3
meanwhile after this meeting here www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000052147&cid=4next week we will be launching PAPAPAUPAPPAAUPAPP PA PA UPA (excuse me if it sounds like a vuvuzela) ;D its the Party for the Alliance of Alliance of Parties in the Alliance Party of Alliances of the Unity Parties in Union of the Alliance Party Party of Alliances ... and this is the single strong vehicle or party with a single candidate i.e Uhuru, Ruto, Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Jirongo, Saitoti, Kiraitu, etc, and all of them will be on the ballot box at the same time but just supporting only one of them, who all have a common vision and goal that is deny one man chance to state house and this is good for all 40 million 39,999,999 kenyans (you know who has been excluded ok .... maybe make that two ) for those wondering, the reason we have so many parties is because we have unity of purpose and are like minded and therefore have one vision for the country ;D ;D ;D and we dont want to split the country by regions. in other words we are exactly on the same page. ok don't blame me if like me, by now you laugh till the tears roll, because somewhere in there is some logic, those crowds must tell you some logic exists in all this. with unity such as this, why would anyone want to join or form another party. ..... and then there is POA to join the fray. boy when they tell you kenya is a partying country i always thought they meant something else and just in case anybody asks our symbol is posted below nb: we run out of space to post the (seven) single vuvuzela candidates color of choice and only squeezed in four, in the future we will accomodate everyone by getting more vuvuzelas to appear on the graphic, one for each of the 7 single candidate  stay tuned when next week we unveil the seven single party/alliance and the seven single candidate |
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Post by nok on Feb 15, 2012 11:26:40 GMT 3
meanwhile after this meeting here www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000052147&cid=4next week we will be launching PAPAPAUPAPPAAUPAPP PA PA UPA (excuse me if it sounds like a vuvuzela) ;D its the Party for the Alliance of Alliance of Parties in the Alliance Party of Alliances of the Unity Parties in Union of the Alliance Party Party of Alliances ... and this is the single strong vehicle or party with a single candidate i.e Uhuru, Ruto, Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Jirongo, Saitoti, Kiraitu, etc, and all of them will be on the ballot box at the same time but just supporting only one of them, who all have a common vision and goal that is deny one man chance to state house and this is good for all 40 million 39,999,999 kenyans (you know who has been excluded ok .... maybe make that two ) for those wondering, the reason we have so many parties is because we have unity of purpose and are like minded and therefore have one vision for the country ;D ;D ;D and we dont want to split the country by regions. in other words we are exactly on the same page. ok don't blame me if like me, by now you laugh till the tears roll, because somewhere in there is some logic, those crowds must tell you some logic exists in all this. with unity such as this, why would anyone want to join or form another party. ..... and then there is POA to join the fray. boy when they tell you kenya is a partying country i always thought they meant something else and just in case anybody asks our symbol is posted below nb: we run out of space to post the (seven) single vuvuzela candidates color of choice and only squeezed in four, in the future we will accomodate everyone by getting more vuvuzelas to appear on the graphic, one for each of the 7 single candidate stay tuned when next week we unveil the seven single party/alliance and the seven single candidate ;D ;D ;D tnk . u hav just made my day. Very funny |
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Post by nok on Feb 15, 2012 11:36:09 GMT 3
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Post by mzee on Feb 15, 2012 13:24:29 GMT 3
nok, tnk, Adongo, job and others
This is the most pathetic campaign waged by Kalonzo. This is a guy who wants to get everything by doing nothing. Just wait in the wings and by a miracle end up wherever he needs to. It’s never going to happen, not in Kenya.
His inability to see that he is walking with and in the wrong crowd is shocking. But even worse is his shameful capacity to try holding on to the fugitives to be. The man is like a tick, he is being kicked around like a ball and humiliated yet he won’t go away.
This man is as sick as sick can be. I know that he is praying that the courts bar the fugitives to be from vying. In his katikati mind, he believes that their supporters will be his for the taking.
In my opinion he has another thing coming. There are others who are praying as hard and who are more likely to inherit the Uhuruto supporters. I’m talking about people such as Paul Muite, Martha Karua, Peter Kenneth and George Saitoti. These guys are due to benefit from Uhuru constituency more than Kajudas. As far as the former RVP is concerned, the Gideon Moi´s and Biwotts are eagerly awaiting the courts verdict. A verdict that we all know will most certainly bar the fugitives to be from vying.
Kajudas can hang on other peoples coat tails only for some time but it’s not going to happen all of the time.
Kibaki is one hell of a devil. How in the world could he kick Kajudas in the teeth this bad. He is sending the man away empty handed, with zero, nothing, not even praise. Asante ya punda ni mateke kweli. When he needed a shoulder to cry on Kajudas offered one but now he just sees crocodile tears oozing from Kajudas eyes. Thieves have no honor even amongst themselves.
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Post by nok on Feb 15, 2012 14:16:16 GMT 3
Kibaki is one hell of a devil. How in the world could he kick Kajudas in the teeth this bad. He is sending the man away empty handed, with zero, nothing, not even praise. Asante ya punda ni mateke kweli. When he needed a shoulder to cry on Kajudas offered one but now he just sees crocodile tears oozing from Kajudas eyes. Thieves have no honor even amongst themselves. @mzee I know that Kivuitu ,the former disgraced ECK Chairman, can sing a song about what you have rightly noted. |
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Post by mzee on Feb 15, 2012 14:39:19 GMT 3
Kibaki is one hell of a devil. How in the world could he kick Kajudas in the teeth this bad. He is sending the man away empty handed, with zero, nothing, not even praise. Asante ya punda ni mateke kweli. When he needed a shoulder to cry on Kajudas offered one but now he just sees crocodile tears oozing from Kajudas eyes. Thieves have no honor even amongst themselves. @mzee I know that Kivuitu ,the former disgraced ECK Chairman, can sing a song about what you have rightly noted. Kweli Kabisa But I really dont care Im loving it When we told him not to betray the country he refused to listen. Now its payback time. |
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 16, 2012 2:31:48 GMT 3
And it gets worse by the day. Praying to false gods is a very tought job even if you go to church everyday. There are agents asigned the task of shifting through your prayers to find out if there are any code words for other gods. Muthama is finding that out the hard way. The one thing that will destroy this G7 charade is the little hoodlums they have running the show like Kutuny and kina Duale. They cannot comprehend that this is not about selling Uhuru and/or Ruto. Those guys are gonzo. That is there problem to figure out. Here is the circus of the circus. When the story broke in the Star many of the Ruto Uhuru Kool-Aid drinkers claimed this was all about Raila planted journalists. The fiasco just never ends. Here we go: www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000052213&cid=4¤tPage=1 |
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Post by mzee on Feb 16, 2012 11:16:40 GMT 3
Adongo,
Thanks for sharing this. I think that the chicken is coming back home to roost.
It’s shameful that a whole VP is being ordered around by mere MPs to sack Kilonzo or else. Why can’t Kajudas tell these guys off? They either respect him or he quits their so called alliance. By the way, does he have powers to sack Kilonzo? Besides, we all know that Kilonzo is actually working overtime to clear the path for him. So if Uhuruto thinks that Kajudas will show Kilonzo the door then they must be dreaming.
The VP and his handlers are being treated like s??t by the Uhuruto gang. To everybody’s dismay, he (Kajudas) is ok with the shafting. Last time he ran away with the ODM-K registration certificate in the hope of throwing Railas candidature off balance. What will he do this time, now that he does not “own” URP? He is dealing with better thugs so the sooner he makes up his mind to go it alone the better.
What a circus.
When is the next prayer meeting?
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 16, 2012 22:48:42 GMT 3
hehehehehehe. The new dictators in town are throwing Wiper under the bus, not in front where he is used to wiping stuff. Under the new dictatorship, you say anything not pleasing to Uhuru and Ruto you must be punished or it will hell and fury for anybody associated with you. Even Moi couldn't pull these stunts. Imagine a nation living under these political gangsterism. These chaps are already accused of mass murder and now they are determined to silence everybody. What next? Here we go: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/VP+left+out+of+new+Uhuru+Ruto+line+up+/-/1064/1329154/-/12vcqnd/-/index.html |
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Post by emali on Feb 17, 2012 0:50:10 GMT 3
Kalonzo maybe a turncoat and is self declared as Mr.katikati but he hasn’t killed anyone or advocated killing of any kind or to the best of my knowledge ever taken part in massive corruption aside from maybe inflating his per diem...
As for the rest well...
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