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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2012 18:20:38 GMT 3
Sorry but I do not buy your argument. The "devil" is not the one writing anything offensive about Raila. Miguna of course has the responsibility to ensure that the book remains 'his' as per his manuscripts and he has not given any suggestion that this will change. As for the publisher, would the situation have been different had the publisher been Harper Colins or Penguin Books? Kamale,Did you read Jerome Corsi's brief on Miguna's material. If you did you will notice Corsi talked about Raila the PM whose job was created by President Obama working with Kofi Annan. Is that the kind of nonsense Miguna sold to Corsi? I don't think so because Miguna certainly knows better than that. He participated in the NARA process. So why is Corsi already using Miguna's material to prop up his own sick agenda of Obama controlling Kenyan politics? Because he can. He (Corsi) is the one paying the money. Miguna cannot tell him what to do. That is why people talk about selling one's soul to the devil. He (the devil) calls the piper. And we know how filthy Corsi is. Jerome Corsi is not a publishing house. He is Jerome Corsi the racist extremist. He has enough money to buy stuff and to publish them. You take Jerome's money you have to work with Jerome not some mythical "publishing house". Jerome is the house. Publishers have a lot of say in the direction of what they publish. That is why you need honest and professional publishers who will maintain the integrity of the material. Jerome Corsi is a known liar, manipulator and conman. In the book "Unfit for Command" there were so many lies and falsehoods it became a problem and the person who worked with Corsi Mr. O'Neill later had to declare that Corsi was not a co-writer but only edited the book to try to get away from being tied to the hip with Corsi. Corsi sells his lies very well but he is a known liar and that is a fact Miguna knew coming in and it is a fact he will have to live with. If Corsi is the only option Miguna had that in itself is problematic. I think Miguna made a concious choice to go with Jerome Corsi may be because Corsi would take anything that can help him in his own war. Publishing a book unless you want big money for it is not a big deal. You can do it yourself at a modest cost and let the book win its way into the market, particularly if it is a political book. Many people are doing that. But if you want big cash pay off right of the bat you need the Jerome Corsis and others. It is big business in the US. They publish books on everything in a matter of days. Sarah Palin has published several books already about herself and they sell like hot cakes. She makes her money and off to the bank. That is just business it has nothing to do with politics. You sell what you have and make money. Sarah Palin sells nothing to gullible readers but that is what she has and if it can make her money, she is OK with it. That is who she is. Adongo What Corsi writes in his many columns is really his business. What he writes about the book and the advantage it gives his racists views is for Miguna to manage. But as long as his views do not get into Miguna's book, why should we worry? It is not like Miguna has written that Raila has two heads and six toes like the African Ogre in his bid to belittle the African.That is the bit I am struggling with!
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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2012 18:22:27 GMT 3
Mr. Kamale, Unlike you, I have read Mr. Corsi, so i know and can articulate his hatred for Africans in general. Yes, we are talking about Miguna's book (which we have not seen yet), but more specifically his choice of publisher. That is how I read the title. And I am only characterising Miguna's publisher. Please note that even Miguna does not contest this point: he only claims he is justified because he is like Wangari Maathai, Frantz Fanon etc Jerome Corsi is a well know racist. Corsi can write all he wants and be the worse racist. But answer me this - is he writing Miguna's book? NO. All I know is that Miguna wrote his own book and all that Corsi will do is publish the book! Did you see the difference?
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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2012 18:23:43 GMT 3
As a man, talking about SEXUAL APPETITE of another man is LOW KABISA. Its as if you are also interested in the man whose sexual appetite you have been closely observing. Is this the same Miguna that was accused of rape? Talk about sexual appetite. This sex escapades story - is it a creation of Corsi or what you know Miguna has written?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 27, 2012 18:43:27 GMT 3
All,
Say what you may but please have your Amazon cards ready by June. This promises to be a better ride than Miguna's to the Hague.
Let those who want to kill the messenger continue on that path, my happiness is that finally Big Miguna's book will see the light of day and Kenyans will have a chance to learn first hand how feckless some of their holier than thou leaders are.
I cannot wait.
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Post by hannali on Feb 27, 2012 18:48:33 GMT 3
Either raila or miguna ni mtu mbaya sana
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 27, 2012 18:54:41 GMT 3
Kamale,
My issue with Corsi at least as per the story in DN and other outlets is about what Corsi wrote already with regards to the Miguna book. Corsi talks about Raila being an Obama appointee. Is that from Miguna or from Jerome Corsi? It really doesn't matter because Corsi is talking about what Corsi is supposed to talk about.
Raila is only useful to Jerome Corsi to the extent that the story ties with Obama. Otherwise Jerome Corsi would not give a rat's tail about Raila. Neither would Corsi even bother to find out who Miguna is. Jerome Corsi is out to look for the interests of Jerome Corsi and that is the only extent to which Miguna is useful to him. What is Miguna looking for? That is the question we are asking.
Corsi also talked about black magic as part of Miguna's story. That fits very well with Jerome Corsi's agenda. A bunch of primitive and lunatic black folks delving in magic and crap like that. I mean what the heck is "black magic"?. Where is the "white magic"? The toxic racism just with that alone. But that is music to Jerome Corsi's ears and if Miguna can sing that to him he is in heaven.
I won't be surprised if Corsi tries to drag Obama into the black magic nonsense. I am not so sure how much interest I have in such things myself. It sounds like tabloid lunacy to me. You can read a million such stories in those Kenyan tabloids they sell in the streets.
Then we have the so called sex escapades. Now for the love of god I know people are interested in sex and such things, but I surely have very little "APPETITE" for the sex escapades of Ralia and/or Miguna unless either of them are having sex with minors (statutory rape), engaging in sexual violence and crimes or having sex with criminals messing the country. Other than that I don't want to know who sleeps with who and where. I am not a member of the moral police squad or any such hypocrites. Again pick any Kenyan tabloid in the streets of Nairobi and you will find all such stories with all the graphic details.
Since I have no interest (nor appetite) in talking about my sex life I have no moral authority to talk about other people's sex lives unless they are committing crimes in the process which then becomes a matter of public concern.
Is Miguna going to give us all the low down on sex for himself and for his former boss? Good lord. I hope we were making these things up, but that is what we have been told to look forward to. You can get your appetite ready for that. Sounds very sleazy to me so far.
Nobody has a quarrel with Miguna and his book. We have issues with the choices Miguna is making and we have a right to question that just as Miguna has a right to write his book and give it to Jerome Corsi.
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Post by hannali on Feb 27, 2012 19:15:25 GMT 3
Adongo. Those typos and grammar.........
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Post by akinyi2005 on Feb 27, 2012 20:03:47 GMT 3
MM, is fighting Raila just about the only paying gig you have left? making a choice to follow the money is one thing, but who in their right mind would want to be associated with Corsi?
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Post by nereah on Feb 27, 2012 20:15:01 GMT 3
it appears that content of this book and contract etc traveled faster across the globe than miguna would have wished.
an extremely knowledgeable associate domiciled in france shocked me with this info last week but as with many sensitive things, i had to exercise my discretion
miguna in haste and anger to visit vengeance to the political house that odinga built before the presidential elections has made a couple of costly blunders which she would be sharing with me sooner.
remember you never heard this from jukwaa.....
more on my thread open letter to miguna.
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 27, 2012 20:50:16 GMT 3
I have now read Miguna Miguna's version of the famous Khomeini quip: 'This decision was like drinking a cup of pure poison for me!' [This was the acceptance of the ceasefire in the Iran-Iraq war, in which Iraq was the clear aggressor]. How I wish now MM was an artist and not a political activist associated with progressive politics! An artist at work is not bound by the daily qualms and principles of lesser mortals in their limited and unimaginative cocoons. Genuine artists have no loyalty to common sense, nation, God --be he Allah or Jahweh or some other sort. Such artists are gods unto themselves and their creations divine! Whether their works are published by racists, bigots, pornographers, murderers, is not their concern, just like it is not their concern if they are majorly read by psychopaths and paedos! Such artists will explore taboos of their society --homosexual love, atheism, polytheism, partner swap, child sacrifice... depths where the normal Tom Dick and Harry [Should that be Omollo Nyongesa and Kamau? } fear as sacrillege to even dare imagine. But political activists who talk principles and critisize others on daily morality, must beware of who their friends are. And because MM's book is not in principle a work of art, he has some more explanation to do.[ A sorry state that he has stated he wont respond no more]. For my own position, I do not care who publishes books I find important. And all books that tackle the political dispensation in Kenya, and MM's book falls under that, I find interesting enough to give due attention. If Kenyans themselves do not want to publish things that may be of interest to themselves, someboy else will. This is why I will really be horrified to learn Michuki died without penning his memoirs. How does the book market work in Amerika? I do not know but if Corsi is a businessman and he is not into subsidies, then there must be buttered bread he sees in this. I can guess how the book will be marketed in Africa! but, in any case, in a media era, notoriety, even that generated by a scandalous publisher, will mean MM will have his ?? minutes of fame in [media] studios flogging his book! That is the way publicity works nowadays. But that has nothing to do with the progressive agenda which has been MM's make-believe mantle. That is pure business, like your occasional pick-up from Koinange street, or your family lawyer naturally. [Take your pick] Luo Kenya may not be much of a book-buying public, and I doubt if those who are literate will read the book on merit, so the vehemence from Jaluos maybe something Corsi would have factored in, and deduced as insignificant in his larger scheme of things. ..However... The psychological problem for MM is the 'paria' status a significant body of Luo nationalism will reduce him to, if not already. Is he mentally strong enough to resist malicious Luo vindictiveness? some of which we have a taste of on Jukwaa ? Is Kenya big enough for MM to exist oblivious to Luo hate, and more so if Raila becomes president? NB: EA publishing house had agreed to publish the manuscript but started dithering after a phone call (may be)? So, if the Corsi published book is still the unchanged manuscript described as a masterpiece [give or take a flattering, oily smile], then the integrity of the book will still be intact, though the publisher be the devil incarnate. And last, there is still native of kenya's satirical cynicism so well penned above by nok!: we forget easy, and move on quick, like the famous animal known as njiri in dholuo! -------------------------- Kenya is a country where Integrity knows no friend: so all these are just theatrics and should not get into any body's liver. This book will be published be whoever, will come out in June or July, we shall read it, some will get excited, some angry and some will rejoice. Miguna may take a fat cheque to the bank and 2 or 3 weeks later it will be business as usual in Kenya with our corruption, ICC, tribalism , Impunity...... you name it. The memory of the Kenyan populace is relative short and by the end of the year that dissertation from Miguna will just be like any other ( Kroll report et al, Wikileaks e.t.c )and shall be confined to the archives = Zero Consequence. We, the majority in Kenya, really don't read much anyway. We forget and forgive easily and we let ourselves be driven by our tribal motivations. We have elected thieves, drug lords , murderers, sonko's to high office so, we really don't give a damn what a book or a report says. In fact on the contrary, we seem to carry those least integral with the most highest of admiration. So, Jukwaa just sit and enjoy the theatrics; Free of Charge.Yours, Native of Kenya
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 27, 2012 21:08:38 GMT 3
I have now read Miguna Miguna's version of the famous Khomeini quip: 'This decision was like drinking a cup of pure poison for me!' [This was the acceptance of the ceasefire in the Iran-Iraq war, in which Iraq was the clear aggressor]. How I wish now MM was an artist and not a political activist associated with progressive politics! An artist at work is not bound by the daily qualms and principles of lesser mortals in their limited and unimaginative cocoons. Genuine artists have no loyalty to common sense, nation, God --be he Allah or Jahweh or some other sort. Such artists are gods unto themselves and their creations divine! Whether their works are published by racists, bigots, pornographers, murderers, is not their concern, just like it is not their concern if they are majorly read by psychopaths and paedos! Such artists will explore taboos of their society --homosexual love, atheism, polytheism, partner swap, child sacrifice... depths where the normal Tom Dick and Harry [Should that be Omollo Nyongesa and Kamau? } fear as sacrillege to even dare imagine. But political activists who talk principles and critisize others on daily morality, must beware of who their friends are. And because MM's book is not in principle a work of art, he has some more explanation to do.[ A sorry state that he has stated he wont respond no more]. For my own position, I do not care who publishes books I find important. And all books that tackle the political dispensation in Kenya, and MM's book falls under that, I find interesting enough to give due attention. If Kenyans themselves do not want to publish things that may be of interest to themselves, someboy else will. This is why I will really be horrified to learn Michuki died without penning his memoirs. How does the book market work in Amerika? I do not know but if Corsi is a businessman and he is not into subsidies, then there must be buttered bread he sees in this. I can guess how the book will be marketed in Africa! but, in any case, in a media era, notoriety, even that generated by a scandalous publisher, will mean MM will have his ?? minutes of fame in [media] studios flogging his book! That is the way publicity works nowadays. But that has nothing to do with the progressive agenda which has been MM's make-believe mantle. That is pure business, like your occasional pick-up from Koinange street, or your family lawyer naturally. [Take your pick] Luo Kenya may not be much of a book-buying public, and I doubt if those who are literate will read the book on merit, so the vehemence from Jaluos maybe something Corsi would have factored in, and deduced as insignificant in his larger scheme of things. ..However... The psychological problem for MM is the 'paria' status a significant body of Luo nationalism will reduce him to, if not already. Is he mentally strong enough to resist malicious Luo vindictiveness? some of which we have a taste of on Jukwaa ? Is Kenya big enough for MM to exist oblivious to Luo hate, and more so if Raila becomes president? NB: EA publishing house had agreed to publish the manuscript but started dithering after a phone call (may be)? So, if the Corsi published book is still the unchanged manuscript described as a masterpiece [give or take a flattering, oily smile], then the integrity of the book will still be intact, though the publisher be the devil incarnate. And last, there is still native of kenya's satirical cynicism so well penned above by nok!: we forget easy, and move on quick, like the famous animal known as njiri in dholuo! -------------------------- Kenya is a country where Integrity knows no friend: so all these are just theatrics and should not get into any body's liver. This book will be published be whoever, will come out in June or July, we shall read it, some will get excited, some angry and some will rejoice. Miguna may take a fat cheque to the bank and 2 or 3 weeks later it will be business as usual in Kenya with our corruption, ICC, tribalism , Impunity...... you name it. The memory of the Kenyan populace is relative short and by the end of the year that dissertation from Miguna will just be like any other ( Kroll report et al, Wikileaks e.t.c )and shall be confined to the archives = Zero Consequence. We, the majority in Kenya, really don't read much anyway. We forget and forgive easily and we let ourselves be driven by our tribal motivations. We have elected thieves, drug lords , murderers, sonko's to high office so, we really don't give a damn what a book or a report says. In fact on the contrary, we seem to carry those least integral with the most highest of admiration. So, Jukwaa just sit and enjoy the theatrics; Free of Charge.Yours, Native of Kenya Jakaswanga,The "greatest" artists are the ones we call "con artists" those are the people whose primary job is to make money and they make it whichever way they can. They are bound by no principles or anything else. As long as they make money they have succeeded. Jerome Corsi is one such con artist with a little twist. Read his book on "Obama Nation" and "Unfit for Command". They speak for themselves. They are not books but very high selling works of con artists. Jerome Corsi has no qualms about that? Why should he? That is what he does for a living. If Miguna's primary motive here is to make money by any means necessary that is his right and prerogative. If he does so using questionable deals and activities we have a right to question it. That is what we do for a living. It will not stop now just because it is Miguna or because he is a Luo. We don't care about such things and Miguna of all people knows that very well. Ask him.
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Post by einstein on Feb 27, 2012 22:04:40 GMT 3
Rejoinder from Miguna :.................................................................................................................................................................................................... 5. Within one week after the assessment, they communicated with me and indicated that I would be required to sign a contract on Jan. 23rd, 2012. But they said they might not be able to meet the February date; they wanted to do it in June. I told them that was OK.
6. On Jan. 23rd, at about 6.30 p.m., I received a letter from them (electronically), indicating that unfortunately, they could not now publish the book until after the elections. One of my contacts there mentioned that the chairman of the board suddenly changed the original decision. When I pressed if they had been approached or bribed not to publish the book; they could not deny or accept. I reached my own conclusions..................................................................................................................................................................................... I will not respond to any further attacks on this issue. Miguna Miguna Please spot, if you can, the factual error when you read bullet points 5 & 6 together.
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Post by mzee on Feb 27, 2012 22:28:32 GMT 3
Mr. Kamale,Unlike you, I have read Mr. Corsi, so i know and can articulate his hatred for Africans in general. Yes, we are talking about Miguna's book (which we have not seen yet), but more specifically his choice of publisher. That is how I read the title. And I am only characterising Miguna's publisher. Please note that even Miguna does not contest this point: he only claims he is justified because he is like Wangari Maathai, Frantz Fanon etc Jerome Corsi is a well know racist. Corsi can write all he wants and be the worse racist. But answer me this - is he writing Miguna's book? NO. All I know is that Miguna wrote his own book and all that Corsi will do is publish the book! Did you see the difference? Kamale, I can’t believe that you are Miguna Miguna are now an item. The support from you of a Miguna project is the most improbable thing to happen in Kenya and Jukwaa. What happened to the venomous animosity between the two of you? You have had nothing but scorn for Miguna and whatever he did. How come you are now in bed with him. This is a true case of your enemies enemy is also your enemy. Having said that, Migunas book will come out, a couple of guys will read it and have a field day for a few weeks then all will be back to normal. A few publishers would refuse doing a book that might earn them money if it’s factual. Perhaps they were scared of publishing some tabloidish stuff that might injure their reputation. And let’s face it; Corsi is not publishing the book because he thinks it will hurt Raila. No, he is doing so because he thinks it will hurt Obama. Were it not for this angle, he would not touch Migunas explosive book with a ten meter pole. I have said and I will repeat this for free. Miguna has no capacity whatsoever to stop Raila from becoming president. Ati Miguna is in bed with a racist because he thinks Alfred Nobel was also a racist. What lunacy is this. So bring the book on, we will see how far you go.
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Post by mank on Feb 27, 2012 23:03:17 GMT 3
All,
Say what you may but please have your Amazon cards ready by June. This promises to be a better ride than Miguna's to the Hague.
Let those who want to kill the messenger continue on that path, my happiness is that finally Big Miguna's book will see the light of day and Kenyans will have a chance to learn first hand how feckless some of their holier than thou leaders are.
I cannot wait. Mwalimumkuu, Shooting the messenger may be the motivation of many, but there is a different mindset behind some arguments against Miguna's choice of Corsi as his publisher. Certainly (in an after-thought that's an exageration) Miguna's book will get broad publicity, but it won't be the type of publicity to inform Kenyans for the sake of building Kenya. Choosing Corsi has largely taken away a certain category of potential readers, and brought in a whole new one. The type of readership that would have used Miguna's book for positive information is not the type that expects to find positive information from Corsi, or those who value what Corsi does. On the other hand, Corsi has a mass following that thirsts for even one more sentence to feed hateful propaganda. For that mass, Miguna is a savior.
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 27, 2012 23:51:31 GMT 3
Since Miguna has confirmed his dealings with Mr. Corsi according to the DN story, I decided to post this. Mr Jerome Corsi is so racist and obsessed with Obama hate groups that even in the US he is considered to toxic to be taken seriously. He tried in vain to finish Obama as he promised and invented conspiracy theories so extreme and false that even Sarah Plain looked sane compared to Jerome Corsi. I was surprised he is now Miguna's pal in shopping for a publisher. It seems Miguna couldn't get any other publisher. This is like an an African American activist working with the Ku Klux Klan as their publishers. It is embarrassing to say the least but probably not surprising given what we have seen lately. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Miguna+sends+book+on+Raila+to+controversial+US+publisher+/-/1064/1335692/-/934348z/-/index.htmlWho is Jerome Corsi? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_CorsiMany of us have been saying for a long time that Miguna has no beans to spill notwithstanding his effort to mislead people to believing that he does. What we didn’t know is that he would stoop this low as to associate himself with the extreme racist Corsi to publish the book and no one can disagree, including Miguna himself, that it can't get lower than this. We also know of many “tell all” or “bombshell books” that have been written by people who have fallen out with their political mentors and/or bosses but to their credit, much of what they say is factual “insider” information heretofore unknown publicly–albeit with a spin to make the subject look bad–and that’s not a bad thing from a public policy perspective. Miguna on the other hand, is bent on telling made up personal tales only his imagination will be his limit and that may have an audience for those interested in such salacious false tales but any serious person would have or should have no moment for it. The book will have no public policy value. None. Here is another way to look at this: If any of Raila’s closest advisors and friends were to have a falling out with him--and I doubt Miguna ever was, NONE will run to publish a book to malign Raila and this is because they are seasoned politicians to know one must maintain their level of respectability and publishing such maligning tales may in the short term give them satisfaction and monetary gain but will forever destroy their credibility and reduce them to nothing but people with an ax to grind. What Miguna is doing is what all us should condemn regardless of political affiliation because it serves no purpose other than Miguna simply utilizing the lowest of forms to exact revenge against Raila for firing him. Please note the book will not have any appreciable difference in the elections because those who would base their voting decision on the book were never going to vote for Raila, anyway. Put money on the book no seeing the bookshelves in Kenya before the elections nonetheless.
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Post by Mobimba on Feb 28, 2012 0:52:42 GMT 3
Omwenga,
Miguna will surely have no problems hawking his comic book from the trunk of his car. In any case, booksellers should be encouraged to stock their shelves as soon as available. Let's not repeat the "Our time to eat" scenario.
Miguna Miguna has a knack of destroying every relationship he creates. Be it Raila, The Star Newspaper or the two hapless female clients in Canada. The latest victim is of course the East African Educational Publishers… whom he just outed as politically compromised.
I'm waiting to see how his relationship with Corsi will end (explode).
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Post by einstein on Feb 28, 2012 2:21:55 GMT 3
MM,
God says in,
Job 28:28 that,
And He said to man, "The fear of the Lord - that is WISDOM, and to shun evil is UNDERSTANDING"
In Proverbs 9:10,
God says that,
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of WISDOM, and knowledge of the Holy One is UNDERSTANDING"
May the Holy One bless your ways!
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Post by 50cents on Feb 28, 2012 2:26:54 GMT 3
From where I sit and with the little English that I know, the above is what is known as HEARSAY. As a lawyer, Miguna knows better than believe whatever he is told by third parties. Moreover, Miguna is yet to clearly come out and explain (like he has done in this case) his totally misplaced allegations that some ODM ministers (Bett, Kamar and others) were plotting to have Miguna eliminated. Miguna imagines that our memories here in Jukwaa are short-lived. His convenient selection of responses is a manifestation on how dubious this Miguna character is. Turning back to the so-called explosive book, it's clear that Miguna's publication is motivated by nothing other than political revenge. My predictions that Miguna's book is being driven to coincide with the general election campaigns is now there for all to see. And his financiers can only remain secret for a shortwhile before we also submit our explosive dossier on his project. It is also clear Miguna has an insatiable craving for attention and he cannot get that attention by just being Miguna. He can only get it by constantly making connections between his personal problems and PM Raila Odinga. When we voted for Raila in 2007, we knew he was already in the oil and gas business. It's not a secret that Miguna wants the world to believe that its suddenly being revealed by citizen tv. To make inference to RAO's family business is hogwash to say the least. PS @ Onyango Oloo, why must you be the one posting for Miguna whilst he has an active membership handle at Jukwaa? Why cant this man be brave enough to post and debate other Jukwaa members? Ama yeye alipanda ngazi na amakekataa kushuka? Also, @ Oloo, do not be so sure that Miguna is not on anyone's payroll. What we know and will soon publish will surprise even Miguna's close buddies. Yes Oloo Why should Miguna be man enough to post these by himself? Why is he letting you run his errands? Jukwaa When did Miguna realize that Raila was such a bad man to work for? Was it on his 100, 200, 300 page or has he all along been collecting these dossier while working there. I am yet to see a man so bitter. Oloo I know you understand when I say I have never in my life seen a man so bitter. People have done worse things to some of us but down in our hearts we do forgive and move on only a little bit wiser.
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Post by 50cents on Feb 28, 2012 2:42:55 GMT 3
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 28, 2012 3:38:42 GMT 3
Rejoinder from Miguna :I have seen the attacks and comments on Jukwaa and other places, condemning me for buddying up to Jerome Corsi, whom they refer to as extremist and racist. These attacks were expected it but they will not change anything. This is why. 1. The East African Educational Publishers - the largest publishing firm in East Africa - agreed to publish the book last November before the book was written. They asked me to ensure that they had the manuscript by January this year so that the book could come out in Feb or March this year.
2. I went to work and some days slept only 2 hours. I managed to finish the manuscript in January 2012.
3. The EAEP gave me letters undertaking to publish the book and took the manuscript for review.
4. They completed their review within two weeks and called me in for assessment. After the meeting, all the issues they had raised (and they were few and very minor) were resolved. They gave me another letter confirming our understanding/agreement.
5. Within one week after the assessment, they communicated with me and indicated that I would be required to sign a contract on Jan. 23rd, 2012. But they said they might not be able to meet the February date; they wanted to do it in June. I told them that was OK.
6. On Jan. 23rd, at about 6.30 p.m., I received a letter from them (electronically), indicating that unfortunately, they could not now publish the book until after the elections. One of my contacts there mentioned that the chairman of the board suddenly changed the original decision. When I pressed if they had been approached or bribed not to publish the book; they could not deny or accept. I reached my own conclusions.
7. The EAEP was the publisher of choice because I thought it was big, well established and professional. They had also showed nothing but enthusiasm at the prospect of publishing the book. They actually referred to the manuscript as a "masterpiece" and stated that they needed to publish it ahead of this year's London Book Fair.
8. The sudden change of heart surprised me and showed how compromised publishers are in Kenya.
9. I had earlier approached two other Kenyan publishers. One told me that they only do educational books. They don't do fiction, non-fiction or memoirs. The second one told me that the project was "too hot" for them (their own words).
10. I was now left with two choices: either to self-publish (with all its attendant problems) or to seek a publisher abroad.
11. Last month, a good friend of mine reported to me that Raila was boasting that my book would never see the light of day.
12. Almost at the same time, someone working at the PM's office called to tell me how Caroli Omondi was overheard boasting on the phone shortly after he had announced the "reinstatement" that "this is what will now destroy Miguna completely." In other words, the so-called reinstatement and other shenanigans were only intended to "destroy Miguna."
13. Late last year, someone from the WND had contacted me about publishing the book. I had declined. But now that I was foreseeing the prospect of Kenyan publishers refusing to publish the book in time or not at all, I had to make a decision. Would I refuse help from someone because of their political and ideological beliefs at the risk of failing to publish my book? What was important here: publishing the book without censorship and compromise or killing the idea on the basis of our ideological differences?
14. I then remembered a few historical facts that helped me make the decision: Frederick Douglass - the legendary anti-slavery hero was published by people who many would have considered racists and extremists. The same applied to Martin Luther King Jr., Frantz Fanon, Kwameh Nkrumah, Nelson Mandela, Jomo Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga - name them. The political and ideological orientation of their publishers did not affect the content of their books. After all, who owns the major publishers of the world? Are they African American activists? Which are the publishing firms owned by progressives in Kenya?
15. Many Africans - and global progressives, even revolutionaries like my late friend Dr. Tajudeen Abdul Raheem - went to Oxford University in England on RHODES SCHOLARSHIP. This is a scholarship that was started by and named after Cecil Rhodes - the legendary racist from Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. How many of these people have been subjected to hatred and vile attacks on the basis that they accepted a scholarship started and named after a racist? How about scholarships, publication and other financial support by the Rockefeller, Ford and other foundations that were started and funded by ultra racists and slave owners?
16. When many of my critics purchase a computer, use an airline like KLM and others, have they ever stopped to ask: "who owns this company; plane or airline?"
17. What about the Nobel Peace Prize - who founded and funded the prestigious prize? Wasn't he, too, considered a racist? Yet, didn’t we celebrate Mandela, Maathai and others who were bestowed by the Nobel Peace Prize?
18. Between having the book published and having it suppressed, what would you have chosen?
These are the questions we must ask; not allow ourselves to be driven by narrow mindedness and needless hatred and propaganda! The so-called progressives now yelling at me don't own publishing firms. More significantly, they have been gleefully waiting to see me fail to publish the book. They have not been supportive at all. They are good at condemning things and people (and I have not been spared). When I was working like a dog (yes, I mean it) for Raila and ODM, they were urging me on. Yet immediately after Raila violated my constitutional and human rights, they have been the most vociferous at assassinating my character. Many others have simply hidden (from me.) I frankly don’t give a hoot! Think about it: why are they quiet when Raila woos Moi, Njonjo, Githunguri and others? Aren't these people the ones who destroyed our lives and country? Aren't they the ones who looted our assets and stashed it abroad? So, why is it OK for Raila to consort with them and not OK for Miguna just to get published by some US firm? Yesterday, Feb. 26th at the 9 O'clock news on Citizen TV, they had a clip on "Who Owns Kenya?” They had an oil firm worth more than Sh30 billion operating in Kenya and the region. Who are the shareholders? A prominent member of the Saudi royal family (yes, you got that right) owns 65% of the company while Raila Odinga and his family - Fidel, Ida, Oburu, Raila Jr own the remaining 35%. Now, even a toddler knows the human rights record of the House of Saud! Yet, it's OK for Raila to be in business with such characters but a crime for Miguna just to get published even after all the local firms had refused to publish because of political pressure? Finally, for those always suggesting that I rent my house in Runda; that is false. I own it. I built it with my own sweat and savings before I returned to Kenya in 2007! Secondly, the Star did NOT stop me from publishing my column. I withdrew once they started censoring me. Those interested in personal attacks and spreading unfounded lies should at least try to get some basic things right. My book shall be published by latest June this year. And it shall be sold globally including in Kenya. I gave my word to the country and I shall fulfil it. I will not respond to any further attacks on this issue. Miguna Miguna Migana has offered a rejoinder to the criticism and even some loathing of his dashing to the bottom with his promised smear book about Raila. A few things can be said in response to Miguna’s rejoinder. It is obvious Miguna attempted to have mainstream publishers in Kenya or even Africa to publish his book but none would for obvious reasons and that is, the book content is nothing but tales intended to inflict maximum damage against Raila as revenge for his decision to fire Miguna. What Miguna says about East African Educational Publishers (EAEP) confirms this. Outdoing himself, Miguna says that the “sudden change of heart” by the publisher “surprised [him]” and “showed how compromised publishers are in Kenya.” There is nothing surprising about EAEP deciding not to publish the book and even accepting the sequence of events Miguna describes only goes to show the publisher took the time to evaluate whether to publish and reached a business decision not to publish and whether that was “sudden” or not is irrelevant. In my blog Is Miguna the Newt Gingrich of Kenya?, I noted the two men are smart but can say some of the most dumbest of things not even an uneducated person can say and Miguna has not disappointed in this rejoinder. This smearing of the publisher EAEP is one such an example. Miguna demonstrates a shocking ignorance for anyone, let alone a lawyer to say a publisher in Kenya can be compromised or threatened not to publish a book in this day and age where we have made great strides in judicial reform such that one cannot be so easily compromised or threatened not to publish a book. A publisher could look at the content of the book and reach a decision not to publish a book they deem unfair or at least unsubstantiated before an elections and make that decision based on its business judgment not because it is compromised or intimidated and that’s clearly what happened here. A good publisher, after all, has a reputation and image to maintain and would not stoop to publish any trash just because there is someone peddling it. Had Miguna penned a book based on facts and information that can be substantiated giving insight regarding the leadership qualities of Raila and how he manages public affairs, the book would have been published by any mainstream publisher regardless of its impact on the general elections because the public does need to know this type of information about their leaders. Instead, Miguna delves into matters of sex and witchraft that the PM cannot rebut for even rebutting itself would give credence to nonsense which should remain in bars and other places where such gossip, rumors and innuendo flourish. The public need not be told this even if it was true and quite frankly, the objective among us would not care because these are irrelevancies about leadership. Miguna says after being turned down by local publishers, and choosing not self-publish, he opted to seek a publisher abroad. Which is fine. He doesn’t tell us which publishers he contacted abroad but tells us that he decided to team up with a well-known extreme racist and anti-Obama crusader Joram Corsi. Could it be he contacted many reputable publishers and was turned down by each one just the same as he was turned down by EAEP? If not; why did he not? Why the dash to the pathetic character Joram Corsi? Miguna then laughably goes on to attempt to justify why he is now in bed with the pathetic character Corsi and none of the reasons Miguna offers could ever justify the association except in his mind those ignorant or foolish enough to believe any of it. This is the classic case of comparing apples and oranges. There is no need to go into greater length in dismissing the slippery slope reasons Miguna offers other than to say this: Corsi is not himself a publisher but a peddler of anti- Obama lies and innuendo; he is not just an extreme racist with an indispensable service or product the public must consume regardless of his racist views. Quite the contrary, even Americans have long since moved past KKK racists like Joram Corsi and few would associate with them. It is a shame Miguna now joins the ranks of those who would associate with this despicable character who hates black people as no other and especially President Obama. One thing about racists, they would not hesitate to exploit any gullible black to advance their cause as is clearly the case here. In hi unbelievable effort to justify something that cannot be justified, Miguna elevates him to the likes of Frederick Douglas, Dr. Martin Luther King, Kwame Nkrumah, Nelson Mandela, Jomo Kenyatta and Oginga Odinga to make the unbelievable point that because these great men were published by publishers who “many would have considered racists” so he too should be given a free pass for associating himself with the extreme racist Jorom Corsi. When the joke of an American politician Dan Quayle compared himself to JFK Kennedy during a vice-presidential debate with Senator Loyd Bensten, the Senator calmly and effortless reminded Quayle saying, “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy. (Prolonged shouts and applause.) With those words, Senator Bensten destroyed the political career of then Senator Quayle and this remained true even though he became a one term Vice President and George Bush, Sr. as he was henceforth seen as a lightweight and never recovered. There is a lesson every politician or anyone for that matter learned from that day, if they didn’t already know: Be modest in your comparison to others for if you over do, you become nothing but a joke. Leaving the question of whether or not these great men Miguna cites were published by racists, and assuming for the sake of argument they were, the value of the content of their books is day and night compared to Miguna’s. None of these respectable men would have found it in them to tell us about the sexual escapades of their subjects or about witchcraft or other salacious garbage. Indeed, the contribution and value of what these men had to write was so important no one cared or would have bothered to note who the publisher was; it was enough they published what they did. In contrast, what Miguna is peddling in his book is nothing but made up salacious stories and other unproven allegations that pale in comparison to the rich history in these men’s books. When Miguna goes down the slippery slope and argues that we should not complain about his association with the extreme racist Joram Corsi because we are the consumers of goods and services owned by racist, he completely misses or confuses the issue; the issue is not whether we utilize or consume the services or products made by companies that are owned by racists but one whether a person can stoop so low as to associate with an extreme racist who is obsessed with smearing Obama and to now allow this extreme racist to use him to further smear Obama and by extension Raila. It would be a safe bet to say on Miguna has proven this can be done and one else could stoop this low. Staying with this strange line of reasoning and elevation to greatness, Miguna tells us that “Last month, a good friend of mine reported to me that Raila was boasting that my book would never see the light of day.” One can be confident as one can be in saying no friend told Miguna such a thing. If you need further explanation as to why, you cannot be helped. Ditto for what is said about Caroli and this one, let me offer an explanation for this one: Caroli is a lawyer. If assuming for the sake of argument that there was a strategy to “destroy” Miguna," (a) why would he be blurting such a strategy in public within earshot of others and (b) why would anyone try to destroy Miguna who is doing such a good job on his own? Miguna crying victim will never fly in a million years. Any goodwill he had over what happened to him and the manner he was terminated has long been expended by the many outrageous things Miguna has been saying. Further staying on the same theme of self-elevation to greatness, Miguna poses the following question: “Between having the book published and having it suppressed, what would you have chosen?” This question assumes a critical fact that everyone has ignored thus far: Not everyone who gets fired from a government job has book to write. Yet, Miguna would want everyone to believe that he somehow has one in the form of “beans to spill” but it’s clear he does not as even now can be confirmed by the publishers who have reviewed his draft and turned him down. Turning down a book because it has no content deemed publishable for its lack of value is not suppressing and if one is turned down on these basis—and people do get turned down all the time, one who is turned down can take cue and forget about publishing such a book for truly it’s not worth it. In other words, you cannot demand or expect publication of a book that doesn't exist in terms of publishable content even as a fiction. Miguna brings up a number of other misplaced arguments in defense of his decision to associate himself with the extreme racist Joram Corsi but none of it pass the laugh test to even warrant addressing. For example, Miguna dismisses those criticizing his indefensible decision as not being publishers and therefore apparently cannot question his ill-advised decision. For one, there are actually publishers who have said publicly this was a bone headed decision. For another, even if it were true that those shocked with this decision were not to be publishers, of what relevance is that? In sum, what Miguna has done in associating himself with a man we all know to be an extreme racist and whose sole obsession has been destroying Obama and now sees this Miguna tales as yet another opportunity to do so, is simply put reaching the bottom in as far as falling from political grace goes and if there was any doubt Miguna would rise to even where he was before, that doubt is removed. He says he doesn’t care about what people are saying about him. One truly hope and wish he does and tries to salvage any credibility he could by disassociating himself from this pathetic character Corsi for there is no pride in living large or small in extremism, which is what Miguna shall henceforth be living in being joined at the hip the extreme racist Joram Corsi. He can perhaps reverse course and publish a book about how not to react when fired from a junior position in government. That book could be augmented with tips about political survival and how not to betray friendship and the importance of being a loyal adviser. I am sure that book stands a better chance of being published in mainstream media than the tales Miguna is attempting to tell the world about Raila. Given how ferociously Miguna his digging his political grave, one may doubt he would heed any of the good counsel he has been given here and elsewhere and that's sad, indeed.
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 28, 2012 3:41:03 GMT 3
Omwenga, Miguna will surely have no problems hawking his comic book from the trunk of his car. In any case, booksellers should be encouraged to stock their shelves as soon as available. Let's not repeat the "Our time to eat" scenario. Miguna Miguna has a knack of destroying every relationship he creates. Be it Raila, The Star Newspaper or the two hapless female clients in Canada. The latest victim is of course the East African Educational Publishers… whom he just outed as politically compromised. I'm waiting to see how his relationship with Corsi will end (explode). Lincoln, Please see my response to his rejoinder about this and smearing EAEP.
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Post by gateway on Feb 28, 2012 5:03:47 GMT 3
The Oracles Are Open. Mr. BUSHWILLOW (AKA Miguna Miguna), You Are Too Taut and RIGID. To Avoid breaking, Try Swaying With The Winds. You Are Using Too Much Energy Trying To Fight The WIND. Just DANCE With It. The Wind Will Pass And You Will Still Be Standing. The Gods Were Wondering If The Word Sorry Appears In Your Vocabulary. Do You Ever GO WRONG??? Do You Ever Listen To Close Friends?? Do You Think The Friends Hate You?? The Stakes Are Just High In Your Mind. Nothing To Fight About. You Will Knock Yourself Out.
The WORLD Is Waiting For The Book.
We are free up to the point of choice, then the choice controls the chooser.------- Mary Crowley
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Post by danieldotwaweru on Feb 28, 2012 7:34:52 GMT 3
Goodness me, the lynching mob is out in full force. After the 1997 elections in which Raila came in a distant third, he opted to “co-operate” with Moi, supposedly, in his words, for the greater good of Kenya. Moi, as is very well known, was really not the very nicest of people, being personally responsible for various atrocities directed towards his own citizens, whom he was supposed to protect. Anyway, to cut a short story long, there were more than enough people who found Raila to be in the wrong, associating himself with Moi after their long and cherished history as antagonists. But this is not about Raila as a person. It’s about the reasons Raila gave when he joined forces with Moi. In this same context, we must try and understand the reasons MM decided to do what he has. I seriously doubt, and I’m willing to bet anything, that MM has not joined Corsi for his racist tendencies. To assert so would, in my opinion, be grossly unfair to the character of MM. Furaha seems to be on the right track, questioning the motives driving MM. I’ve never really liked MM’s abrasive style yet I’m willing to give him the benefit of doubt. I bet it has all to do with the greater good for Kenya…..or at least, what MM believes is best for the country. Whether the path he’s chosen is right or wrong is another issue completely. At the end of the day, what matters most is what comes out of his book. Then we can discuss and tear him apart, if need be.
I don't understand this reasoning. The Prime Minister has done extremely dodgy things in the pastand getting into bed with Moi when there was very good reason to suspect Moi of organising mass murder and ethnic cleansing was one of them. But how is that a justification for Miguna's own bad behaviour? At best, Raila's misbehaviour means that he can't comment on Miguna's. But that doesn't make Miguna's actions OK.
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Post by mojofujo on Feb 28, 2012 7:37:15 GMT 3
Alexander the Great, Gandhi and Mandela.
What do these names have in common? They are leaders that led from the front and their countrymen identified with them.
Do they have shortcomings as human beings and men? Your answer is as good as mine.
What MM does not seem to grasp is that we know that all leaders have shortcomings because they are human. But once we view them as enigmatic, their shortcomings will always be overlooked come what may. This is as basic as one plus one.
There is a reason why Raila is known as Agwambo. Sexual escapades, witchcraft and what have you, all this does is make him more of an enigma. Touche.............
Moi, Wamalwa, Kiraitu, Karua, Ruto and Miguna that list is long brother.......
One thing for sure is that Raila will come out safi kama pamba and an enigma.
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Post by b6k on Feb 28, 2012 8:38:39 GMT 3
The natives sure are restless on Jukwaa. It seems MM has hit the motherlode of all nerves by his business arrangement with Corsi. Folks, it's his right, just as Raila goes into business arrangements with many notorious individuals as per MM's quotation below. Let's not forget our current fuel shortages are aftershocks from his dalliance with Devani's Triton. Rejoinder from Miguna :Yesterday, Feb. 26th at the 9 O'clock news on Citizen TV, they had a clip on "Who Owns Kenya?” They had an oil firm worth more than Sh30 billion operating in Kenya and the region. Who are the shareholders? A prominent member of the Saudi royal family (yes, you got that right) owns 65% of the company while Raila Odinga and his family - Fidel, Ida, Oburu, Raila Jr own the remaining 35%. Now, even a toddler knows the human rights record of the House of Saud! Yet, it's OK for Raila to be in business with such characters but a crime for Miguna just to get published even after all the local firms had refused to publish because of political pressure? However, I digress. The question is why would Miguna decide to work with Corsi of all people? I believe it was a cold, calculated business decision. Keep in mind both have to get out "tell all" books before elections this year: November in the case of Obama's re-election & December in Raila's. It is this convergence of deadlines that made it possible for the two unlikely bedfellows to work together. Miguna does not want a publisher who will disappoint him at the 11th hour & not have the book out before the elections. He knows he's a dead man walking in Luo Nyanza anyway so what does he stand to lose? He might as well work with Corsi & have enough "birthers" buy his book in the US as well: & that's a much bigger market than KE anyday. It's called making the most out of a bad situation. Way to go Miguna!
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