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Post by abdulmote on Mar 12, 2012 23:10:37 GMT 3
When used in political rallies, radio broadcasts and even in public service delivery where a majority practice isolationist tact, vernacular languages tend to create a sense of exclusiveness where those who may not share any given are meant to feel excluded. Vernacular tongues also tend to enhance the sense of belonging to one’s ethnicity and therefore indirectly helps to propagate ethnic exclusion from others who are not of similar background, especially where matters so discussed should be for the benefit of the general public.
Considering the PEV which was without doubt heavily influenced by our diverse ethnicity, I am of the humble opinion that there is an overwhelming need to ban the use of vernacular languages to propagate, discuss or broadcast any matters of political nature, where the general public is meant to be the intended audience without the objective being to exclude any amongst the same.
It is high time Parliament should consider banning the use of vernacular, especially on political matters intended for the consumption of the general public that we may avoid a possible repeat of PEV 2007.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 13, 2012 19:52:46 GMT 3
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Post by mugabe on Mar 13, 2012 20:28:51 GMT 3
I agree fully with the proposal. The time has come as a nation for us to decide on whether untrammeled freedom is worth it even at the risk of destruction for the nation. What we need is a debate on ethnicity that should be shaped by general society and not by the political class which benefits by the status quo.
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Post by mank on Mar 13, 2012 21:38:29 GMT 3
When used in political rallies, radio broadcasts and even in public service delivery where a majority practice isolationist tact, vernacular languages tend to create a sense of exclusiveness where those who may not share any given are meant to feel excluded. Vernacular tongues also tend to enhance the sense of belonging to one’s ethnicity and therefore indirectly helps to propagate ethnic exclusion from others who are not of similar background, especially where matters so discussed should be for the benefit of the general public.
Considering the PEV which was without doubt heavily influenced by our diverse ethnicity, I am of the humble opinion that there is an overwhelming need to ban the use of vernacular languages to propagate, discuss or broadcast any matters of political nature, where the general public is meant to be the intended audience without the objective being to exclude any amongst the same.
It is high time Parliament should consider banning the use of vernacular, especially on political matters intended for the consumption of the general public that we may avoid a possible repeat of PEV 2007.
We have an old thread on this topic buried somewhere. I wish you would have lifted it up instead of starting a new one because we had many spirited posts on that thread that may not get repeated here. To state my view in brief, which I had stated in that old thread, I think it is unfortunate that we are so dominated with this inferiority complex which tempts us to always kill what is ours at the slightest provocation. When a car bursts a tire you don't throw it away. You fix the tire. When vernacular is used over the radio to instigate hegemony, likewise, the solution cannot only be to kill it. The use of English alone on the media, without journalistic discipline, cannot assure us that ethnic hatred cannot be instigated through radio. And if we were to entertain the idea of banning our vernacular languages, or even requiring that they never be used on certain topics, then we fall onto the trap of self-discriminating. Or what would we term the scenario in which an announcer is in violation if s/he speaks in an African tongue, but not when he speaks in some obscure non-African language? |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 14, 2012 9:02:35 GMT 3
Unfortunately such a call would be a violation of the constitution how ever well intended. I will ignore the stupid suggestion by this Kibunjia character that an audit of private firms to find out their ehtnic balancing will be taken. All I know is that if the best people to work for me were all pokomos, I will fill my office with pokomos and I could not careless what other people think. Now if I expect that they will for ever speak swahili or english in the office, then I am a dreamer and all I expect is that when dealing with me or other customers, they will do it in a language common to us all. www.nation.co.ke/News/New+rules+on+tribal+balance+for+all+jobs+/-/1056/1365858/-/basmjn/-/index.htmlNow I also see that since Kenya is a secular country, religious programming will be stopped on TV if the recommendations by Kibunjia will be accepted. How about since Kenya is a country of Athletics and mediocre football, then other minority sports should be ignored or for the benefit of all these sports, we should stop being shown sports on TV. Frankly these are the mad men that Kenya should be rid of. If I do not want to watch Pastor Rai, please allow me to watch my porn and let Mank watch the raggamafin programming on Channel O. That is what choice is supposed to do for us. |
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Post by roughrider on Mar 14, 2012 12:36:31 GMT 3
Abdulmote;
This is an interesting question. I think that we need to ban vernacular in public service. Joseph Murumbi had to resign in disgust because Kenyatta and Co. were conducting official meetings in Kikuyu.
We must also clamp down on hate speech. According to a report on Jukwaa, Uhuru Kenyatta was recently presiding over a Kameme Radio session of hate against Raila and the Luo. If a defendant at an ICC trial can be so daring, then we have a lot of work to do.
I am not sure we can ban the use of vernacular completely but certainly we should monitor more closely the use in public Radio and implement tough penalties. Over to bunge!
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Post by kamalet on Mar 14, 2012 13:10:09 GMT 3
Abdulmote; This is an interesting question. I think that we need to ban vernacular in public service. Joseph Murumbi had to resign in disgust because Kenyatta and Co. were conducting official meetings in Kikuyu. We must also clamp down on hate speech. According to a report on Jukwaa, Uhuru Kenyatta was recently presiding over a Kameme Radio session of hate against Raila and the Luo. If a defendant at an ICC trial can be so daring, then we have a lot of work to do. I am not sure we can ban the use of vernacular completely but certainly we should monitor more closely the use in public Radio and implement tough penalties. Over to bunge! Are you really sure that Murumbi resigned because of meetigns being in kikuyu? |
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Post by mugabe on Mar 14, 2012 15:16:55 GMT 3
Kamalet
As I read somewhere Murumbi resigned partly as a result of the assassination of his friend Gama Pinto. But that aside what do you make of the second issue raised by Abdulmote about Uhuru?
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Post by destiny on Mar 14, 2012 17:29:14 GMT 3
Unfortunately such a call would be a violation of the constitution how ever well intended. I will ignore the stupid suggestion by this Kibunjia character that an audit of private firms to find out their ehtnic balancing will be taken. All I know is that if the best people to work for me were all pokomos, I will fill my office with pokomos and I could not careless what other people think. Now if I expect that they will for ever speak swahili or english in the office, then I am a dreamer and all I expect is that when dealing with me or other customers, they will do it in a language common to us all. www.nation.co.ke/News/New+rules+on+tribal+balance+for+all+jobs+/-/1056/1365858/-/basmjn/-/index.htmlNow I also see that since Kenya is a secular country, religious programming will be stopped on TV if the recommendations by Kibunjia will be accepted. How about since Kenya is a country of Athletics and mediocre football, then other minority sports should be ignored or for the benefit of all these sports, we should stop being shown sports on TV. Frankly these are the mad men that Kenya should be rid of. If I do not want to watch Pastor Rai, please allow me to watch my porn and let Mank watch the raggamafin programming on Channel O. That is what choice is supposed to do for us. Hey Bwana Kamale, hope you are doing fine! (wonder why no one refers to you as Kamalet) since you were busy last week correcting Kasuku's spelling mistakes publicly in such a humiliating manner, maybe it 's time you had a taste of your own medicine. It's NOT pastor Rai.... but pastor Lai.  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Lai |
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Post by justfacts on Mar 14, 2012 20:01:17 GMT 3
A ban would violate the law which recognizes all languages, however the media need to enforce a code of ethics that would stop the abuse of such freedoms.
A good starting point would be a ban of call in programs on political matters for a period of 6 month to elections and submission of news program transcripts to CCK for vetting coupled with heavy penalties to defaulters.
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