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Post by destiny on Apr 18, 2012 13:47:04 GMT 3
By CAROLINE WAFULA Posted Wednesday, April 18 2012 at 10:58 Imenti Central MP Gitobu Imanyara has recounted to a shocked Parliament chilling details of a night ordeal where he says he was accosted by four thugs. Mr Imanyara said the goons forced him pledge support to a leading presidential aspirant during the 11.30pm incident, which happened on State House Crescent Tuesday night. According to the Chama Cha Uzalendo (CCU) MP, he slowed down after spotting a car which appeared stalled in the middle of the road. Three men alighted and one of them approached his car asking him to confirm his identity. “He asked me: “wewe ndio Imanyara?” (are you Imanyara?) and I said yes I am. Then he told the fourth man, a gang leader who was in their car in Kikuyu, he is the one,” he said. The MP claimed the fourth man also alighted and he was then ordered out of the car and asked to hand over his gun which he didn't have. He told stunned MPs that he was coerced into saying "Uhuru tuko pamoja" (Uhuru we are together) three times and told to swear facing Mount Kenya.“I have said many times and a repeat, in the face of the new Constitution, I am willing to die but I will not accept a situation where anyone, no matter how senior or mighty directs me on whom I should support. I won't be party to any compartmentalisation of this country into regions and let those who think they can intimidate others know that we cannot be cowed,” he said..... More of this astonishing story see link: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1388772/-/8wj93k/-/index.html
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Post by mzee on Apr 18, 2012 14:15:05 GMT 3
Wololo yaye! The muthamaki has gone overboard. Just last week he was questioned in connection with a plot to murder Raila now he is in another plot to finish Imanyara. What can this fellow born with a silver spoon in his mouth not do???
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Post by marikopolitico on Apr 18, 2012 14:36:55 GMT 3
What a melodramatic character
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 18, 2012 14:51:03 GMT 3
These things are not jokes. There is this very dangerous culture we are seeing in Central Province so far where political thuggery is taking deep roots and the state apparatus are not only ignoring it but in cases like the Limuru situation (where a meeting has been banned the old Moi style) simply because those attending the meeting were not going to worship at the alter of king Uhuru. Never mind that the same Uhuru faces charges of organising mass murder and rape of Kenyans. This is a dangerous culture of intolerance and we need to pay attention to it and condemn it in the strongest terms. You ignore this virus of hatred and political thuggery at your own peril.
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Post by cheshirecat on Apr 18, 2012 16:02:06 GMT 3
There is just as much evidence that Uhuru was behind the 4 thugs as there was that Raila was behind the stone throwing in Kisumu.
Guess some cases require 'no conclusion till police investigate' and some others don't.
The hypocrisy i see here sometimes just blows me away....
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Post by bkichwa on Apr 18, 2012 16:39:04 GMT 3
There is just as much evidence that Uhuru was behind the 4 thugs as there was that Raila was behind the stone throwing in Kisumu. Guess some cases require 'no conclusion till police investigate' and some others don't. The hypocrisy i see here sometimes just blows me away.... True, also just as much evidence that Uhuru was behind the 4 thugs as there was that Raila was behind the goons that threatened Miguna via his relatives a few months ago. Imanyara is a minion and non-entity as far as politics of Central Kenya/Mount Kenya goes (and you can take this to the bank, as Mutahi Ngunyi is wont to say). No one in Mount Kenya region, least of all Uhuru, really cares who Imanyara is aligned to and who he shall vote for or with. He is irrelevant as far as politics goes, and on his way out of political office unless he gets nominated into office via the winning political party in the coming elections. This story is akin to Ruto threatening to eliminate someone like Nick Salat, for the reason that Salat is not supporting him but is rather supporting his competitor. Of what value or consequence would such a move be?
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Post by mank on Apr 18, 2012 16:54:31 GMT 3
There is just as much evidence that Uhuru was behind the 4 thugs as there was that Raila was behind the stone throwing in Kisumu.
Guess some cases require 'no conclusion till police investigate' and some others don't.
The hypocrisy i see here sometimes just blows me away....
True, also just as much evidence that Uhuru was behind the 4 thugs as there was that Raila was behind the goons that threatened Miguna via his relatives a few months ago.
Imanyara is a minion and non-entity as far as politics of Central Kenya/Mount Kenya goes (and you can take this to the bank, as Mutahi Ngunyi is wont to say). No one in Mount Kenya region, least of all Uhuru, really cares who Imanyara is aligned to and who he shall vote for or with. He is irrelevant as far as politics goes, and on his way out of political office unless he gets nominated into office via the winning political party in the coming elections.
This story is akin to Ruto threatening to eliminate someone like Nick Salat. Of what value or consequence would such a move be? There seems to be an interesting theme and a sinister revelation in all these crazy unfoldings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 16:59:18 GMT 3
Good for Imanyara for exposing this right away. Ati face mount Kenya and repeat a pledge to Uhuru 3 times.
This our man in Meru where he is loved. OK? They better not touch him!! If Imanyara sustains even so much as a scratch, nobody in Meru will vote for Uhuru; if he ever gets to run for office which of cause he shouldn't be doing.
Mwalimumuku you are saying that Uhuruto are going nowhere? How comes? Are they not supposed to show up for their trials at the Hague? Tell us more.
bkichwa is completly wrong when he claims that Imanyara is insigificant in Central. Because you see bkichwa, I know you Mutahi and his 18yr old daughter can't tell the difference but Imanyara is from Eastern Sorry!
Imanyara says thugs 'forced' him to endorse Uhuru
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Post by mank on Apr 18, 2012 17:06:45 GMT 3
Good for Imanyara for exposing this right away. Ati face mount Kenya and repeat a pledge to Uhuru 3 times.
This our man in Meru where he is loved. OK? They better not touch him!! If Imanyara sustains even so much as a scratch, nobody in Meru will vote for Uhuru; if he ever gets to run for office which of cause he shouldn't be doing.
Mwalimumuku you are saying that Uhuruto are going nowhere? How comes? Are they not supposed to show up for their trials at the Hague? Tell us more.
bkichwa is completly wrong when he claims that Imanyara is insigificant in Central. Because you see bkichwa, I know you Mutahi and his 18yr old daughter can't tell the difference but Imanyara is from Eastern Sorry!
Imanyara says thugs 'forced' him to endorse Uhuru
Kathure do you really believe that Uhuru sent 4 thugs to win him Imanyara's support by forcing him to swear such support while facing Mt. Kenya? Is that how it works?
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Post by wycky2011 on Apr 18, 2012 17:12:22 GMT 3
I will also ask, did Uhuru fund Mungiki to murder, maim and displace perceived enemies as accused?
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Post by mank on Apr 18, 2012 17:17:45 GMT 3
I will also ask, did Uhuru fund Mungiki to murder, maim and displace perceived enemies as accused? If you are trying to mock my question you will need to try again. The question I ask is "do you believe he did ...?" Not "did he ...?" There is a difference.
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Post by mangai on Apr 18, 2012 17:21:46 GMT 3
I wonder why some guys would want to trivialise this grave matter instead of treating it with the seriousness that it deserves. For one, Imanyara is not the type of guy that can 'cook' such stories. If you are doubting the extent to which the Govt is protecting Uhuru's kingship ask yourself why they had to cancel the planned rival Limuru meeting whose agenda was to offer alternative voice to Uhuru's.
Martha Karua and others have been warned of dire consequences before if they don't toe Uhuru's line. It only leaves one wondering what these cabals of this table banging Uhuru could do were he to become president, bringing memories of Jomo's reign as president. That is why I had said elsewhere that we need to be afraid, VERY afraid.
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Post by bkichwa on Apr 18, 2012 17:26:12 GMT 3
bkichwa is completly wrong when he claims that Imanyara is insigificant in Central. Because you see bkichwa, I know you Mutahi and his 18yr old daughter can't tell the difference but Imanyara is from Eastern Sorry! This is what I wrote: "Imanyara is a minion and non-entity as far as politics of Central Kenya/Mount Kenya goes (and you can take this to the bank, as Mutahi Ngunyi is wont to say). No one in Mount Kenya region, least of all Uhuru, really cares who Imanyara is aligned to and who he shall vote for or with". Last I checked, the reference "Mount Kenya region" comprises and to a very significant extent alludes to Meru County. But for the sake of clarifying the "error" that you decided to latch onto above, we can go ahead and replace the "Mount Kenya" reference with "Eastern". Now everyone's happy, no?
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Post by mank on Apr 18, 2012 17:29:43 GMT 3
... For one, Imanyara is not the type of guy that can 'cook' such stories.... What makes you so sure?
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Post by furaha on Apr 18, 2012 17:43:58 GMT 3
bkichwa is completly wrong when he claims that Imanyara is insigificant in Central. Because you see bkichwa, I know you Mutahi and his 18yr old daughter can't tell the difference but Imanyara is from Eastern Sorry! This is what I wrote: "Imanyara is a minion and non-entity as far as politics of Central Kenya/Mount Kenya goes (and you can take this to the bank, as Mutahi Ngunyi is wont to say). No one in Mount Kenya region, least of all Uhuru, really cares who Imanyara is aligned to and who he shall vote for or with". Does it really matter whether Imanyara is a minion or in the forefront of Central politics? It is the message that matters and the message is loud and clear: all should comply, whether minion or leader, or else... By going public Imanyara has delivered the message to all. And that may have been the objective of the thugs.
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Post by boyengo on Apr 18, 2012 17:45:16 GMT 3
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Post by stibin on Apr 18, 2012 18:05:24 GMT 3
bkichwa & co., Imanyara is definitely not a non-entity in Meru politics but it’s also important to note that Kiraitu is making terrible miscalculation when he engages in lone campaigns to sell Uhuru in Meru. Actually most Meru sitting MPs are not with him and just like the ‘bus’ nonsense he had initiated earlier, Uhuru mission is likely to backfire.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 18, 2012 18:40:34 GMT 3
Uhuru rubbishes Imanyara life claims NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 18 – Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta has dismissed claims by Imenti Central MP Gitobu Imanyara that he was attacked and harassed by youths who asked him to kneel down facing Mt Kenya and chant ‘Uhuru Tuko Pamoja’ three times, with a machete on his head.In a statement sent by his spokesman Munyori Buku, the DPM has termed the allegations as antics of a section of leaders who have lost direction and are facing defeat in the face.
He said Imanyara and the criminal elements he has been hobnobbing with have joined “a shamelessly executed movie as the supporting cast” after Gem MP Jakoyo Midiowo also claimed that there was a plot to assassinate Prime Minister Raila Odinga.Imanyara had told Parliament that he fears for his life after he was allegedly accosted by four men as he drove to his home near State House, Nairobi on Tuesday night. He told a shocked House that the gunmen whom he believed to be police officers forced him to pledge support to a presidential aspirant from Central Kenya during the incident that happened between 11.30pm and midnight on State House Crescent. “The men asked me to kneel down facing Mt Kenya and chant ‘Uhuru Tuko Pamoja’ three times, with a machete placed at the back of my head,” he told Parliament. He claims the thugs also warned him against attending the outlawed Limuru 2B meeting on Wednesday that had been organised by former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga, to counter recent gatherings by the GEMA and KAMATUSA groups. “They also told me to stop accompanying the Prime Minister (Raila Odinga) when he goes to Meru and that if I do not heed their instructions they will cut off my head and those of my sons and take them to my wife,” he claimed. “I will not be party to any attempts to compartmentalize me or some parts of this region to think in a certain way,” Imanyara told Parliament when he rose to get a ministerial statement from the Internal Security Minister. “I am willing to die but (no one) will direct me on who to support politically or regionally. Security being a major consumer issue, one hopes that Police will investigate the matter as soon as the MP reports the complaint,” he said. Internal Security Assistant Minister Orwa Ojodeh said the incident was under police investigation. “We don’t take such matters lightly and I promise you that we are investigating the issue,” he said. He, however, came under fire over the security of MPs after he was reprimanded by backbenchers for treating the matter “casually”. “This is one minister who has in the past made a habit of defending the indefensible,” said Budalang’i MP Ababu Namwamba. He was irked by Ojodeh’s remarks that he had in the past told MPs to “use bodyguards.” Imanyara further stunned the House when he claimed that the police had in the past provided him “an insane bodyguard” who has since been admitted to the Mathari Mental Hospital. “Sometimes I wonder if the police are behind these attacks. They always make a mockery of such reports,” Nominated MP Millie Odhiambo said in contribution to the debate. “Before Tom Mboya died [he was shot dead outside a pharmacy in Nairobi], his own bodyguard had attempted to kill him,” Gwassi MP John Mbadi added. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2012/04/uhuru-rubbishes-imanyara-life-claims/----------- I personally wonder who is this that might have been after Imanyara's life January to Juanuary, 1990-2012? Isn't it amazing that they actually almost always get a hold of him, take him through all manner of ordeals but still let him go narrate his story to a 'hashed parliament'? If it is about being a threat to Uhuru, wouldn't Martha or Peter Ken be a better target than Imanyara who cannot even hold on to his own parliamentary seat in Imenti?
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Post by mank on Apr 18, 2012 18:48:34 GMT 3
This is what I wrote:
"Imanyara is a minion and non-entity as far as politics of Central Kenya/Mount Kenya goes (and you can take this to the bank, as Mutahi Ngunyi is wont to say). No one in Mount Kenya region, least of all Uhuru, really cares who Imanyara is aligned to and who he shall vote for or with". Does it really matter whether Imanyara is a minion or in the forefront of Central politics? It is the message that matters and the message is loud and clear: all should comply, whether minion or leader, or else... By going public Imanyara has delivered the message to all. And that may have been the objective of the thugs.Questionable as the scenario Imanyara describes may sound I would be hesitant to spell my doubts if this were the Imanyara of the 90s. Being the current Imanyara though, I must wonder whether the story is persuasive at all. First, the man was driving and then encountered an apparently stalled car on the road at 11.30 pm. I wonder whether any other MP feels so secure as to be driving by themselves on Nairobi roads at that hour of the night. Second, the story suggests the thugs were not even sure he was the person they were sent to force into an endorsement. Sounds rather mediocre a tale!
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Post by samson on Apr 18, 2012 18:57:11 GMT 3
If for a reason you hate somebody( something we do at times) you tend to be prejudiced. Those who hate PM think the allegations that somebody is planing to kill him as false,to them midiwo is a liar. To those who hate Uhuru-its obvious he planed what happend to Imanyara. Good people (unless you have just arrived from mars) most politicians are dishonest- i would like these cases- imanyara& Pm cases investigated and culprits jailed. ...... In a diffrent world,an innocent kenyan was attacked and killed by thugs in Athi -river. Mps did not debate this in parliament today,if me and you is kidnapped,killed or threated ,life in and outside parliament, as kenyans we shd be demanding security for all-the mighty and not soo mighty. We can not ignore imanyara and midiwo, but we cannot trust them 100%,so investigate both cases conclusively
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Post by samson on Apr 18, 2012 18:59:30 GMT 3
If for a reason you hate somebody( something we do at times) you tend to be prejudiced. Those who hate PM think the allegations that somebody is planing to kill him as false,to them midiwo is a liar. To those who hate Uhuru-its obvious he planed what happend to Imanyara. Good people (unless you have just arrived from mars) most politicians are dishonest- i would like these cases- imanyara& Pm cases investigated and culprits jailed. ...... In a diffrent world,an innocent kenyan was attacked and killed by thugs in Athi -river. Mps did not debate this in parliament today,if me and you is kidnapped,killed or threated ,life in and outside parliament, as kenyans we shd be demanding security for all-the mighty and not soo mighty. We can not ignore imanyara and midiwo, but we cannot trust them 100%,so investigate both cases conclusively
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Post by samson on Apr 18, 2012 19:00:55 GMT 3
If for a reason you hate somebody( something we do at times) you tend to be prejudiced. Those who hate PM think the allegations that somebody is planing to kill him as false,to them midiwo is a liar. To those who hate Uhuru-its obvious he planed what happend to Imanyara. Good people (unless you have just arrived from mars) most politicians are dishonest- i would like these cases- imanyara& Pm cases investigated and culprits jailed. ...... In a diffrent world,an innocent kenyan was attacked and killed by thugs in Athi -river. Mps did not debate this in parliament today,if me and you is kidnapped,killed or threated ,life in and outside parliament, as kenyans we shd be demanding security for all-the mighty and not soo mighty. We can not ignore imanyara and midiwo, but we cannot trust them 100%,so investigate both cases conclusively
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Post by samson on Apr 18, 2012 19:02:42 GMT 3
If for a reason you hate somebody( something we do at times) you tend to be prejudiced. Those who hate PM think the allegations that somebody is planing to kill him as false,to them midiwo is a liar. To those who hate Uhuru-its obvious he planed what happend to Imanyara. Good people (unless you have just arrived from mars) most politicians are dishonest- i would like these cases- imanyara& Pm cases investigated and culprits jailed. ...... In a diffrent world,an innocent kenyan was attacked and killed by thugs in Athi -river. Mps did not debate this in parliament today,if me and you is kidnapped,killed or threated ,life in and outside parliament, as kenyans we shd be demanding security for all-the mighty and not soo mighty. We can not ignore imanyara and midiwo, but we cannot trust them 100%,so investigate both cases conclusively
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Post by bkichwa on Apr 18, 2012 19:03:42 GMT 3
bkichwa & co., Imanyara is definitely not a non-entity in Meru politics but it’s also important to note that Kiraitu is making terrible miscalculation when he engages in lone campaigns to sell Uhuru in Meru. Actually most Meru sitting MPs are not with him and just like the ‘bus’ nonsense he had initiated earlier, Uhuru mission is likely to backfire. Stibin: Won't argue with that. Let's wait for March 2013 elections then see what happens, and who had it right. Sawa?
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 18, 2012 19:05:37 GMT 3
This is the problem that continues to mess the country as good people look around and find excuses to defend stupidity and outright thuggery. We saw Kibaki getting ready for his onslaught. We saw him stuff the ECK with his conmen. We saw APs being trained for mischief. We saw the whole writing on the wall and some Kenyans thought because they supported Kibaki they had to rubbish everything as jokes from "desperate" forces etc.
When the country exploded the same people were wailing and crying wondering what happened to the country. They were asking how did we get here. Of course they resorted to excuses blaming Kenyans who were defending their rights. Too bad.
Now we see political thuggery emerging in Kenya, specifically in Central Province and otherwise normal people here in Jukwaa are up in arms. How can Uhuru waste time with "minions" they ask? Oh this is just Imanyara looking for publicity they scream at us. When the Lari's M'Ps house was burnt in Limuru they said the same things. They tell us their kings are saints who can never ever do any wrong. Never mind that some of those kings are already going to the Hague for mass murder and rape of Kenyans. Some saints, alright! Bad things happen when good people say nothing to paraphrase the famous saying.
What is wrong even with Uhuru supporters coming out to point blank condemn the emerging ugliness of political intolerance and thuggery in Uhuru's back yard. Must we wait until the country is engulfed in another inferno before we find our voices? It is just shameful.
I don't know whether Uhuru sent thugs to attack Imanyara or not but I know for a fact that such attacks are carried out in the name of defending Uhuru. The first thing Uhuru and his supporters need to do is to fully condemn and address the root of this problem which is Uhuru's own political intolerance in Central Province. Uhuru's tone of you are either with us or against us when dealing with other political formations in Central is a fascist mentality that must be denounced. This political thuggery of Uhuru and friends is a danger to our country. It must stop immediately. That is not a favour Kenyans are asking from Uhuru and his friends.
And Uhuru trying to make a joke of this as a movie the way his Hague partner William Ruto talked about the ICC cases is just plain sickening. And these are the characters some people worship as their kings. Pitiful.
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