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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 19, 2012 13:06:15 GMT 3
I mourn Mudavadi succumbing to politics of ethnicity
By George Nyongesa, the National Coordinator of Bunge la Mwananchi
Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM
There is no doubt that Hon. Musalia Mudavadi is the news worthy politician of the moment. The fixation with the likely presidential candidature of Mudavadi is said to be because the man is loveable – which has me a little perplexed: does a country require a leader they love or a leader they need?
Thanks to the media hype, what started out as "friendly-in-house political spurring" within Orange Democratic Movement is fast gaining flight energy with every passing moment. But even the media darling has like other politicians managed to royally put his foot in his mouth. Hon. Mudavadi had managed to cut himself the image of a moderate politician with national stature. But, I am appalled that in the wake of the infamous Gema and Kamatusa regroupings; that in a country threatened by ethnic cataclysm, the Sabatia legislator did not resist the urge to seek tribal anointing before declaring his next political move. Mudavadi’s latest move to host politicians from Luhyaland may well be his point of no return to the Orange party.
I think that his convening of Luhya politicians was an archaic and backward move, characteristic of what continues to rob us of great leadership and make it harder to govern this country. Does he think that he secured my support or vote as a Luhya by just appearing in the media sandwiched by politicians from my ethnic group? Not! His action only caused me to bemoan that our politics only attracts personalities bereft of principles and not willing to pay the price of upholding national values of unity and cohesion.
Hon Musalia’s candidacy may sound attractive to Luhyas especially when discussed against claims that we are due for a president from the region. But hold on a second, fellow tribesman. Have you considered the tribe called Kenyans? They too have not had one of their own become a president since independence. Shouldn’t this be their time? I am persuaded that currently the most terrifying problem of our society is the negative nature of ethnicity. As a Kenyan, what I desire and deserve is a leader walking the talk of unity and working on de-ethnicization of our politics. Our country has been battered by tribal contests for too long. It is incumbent on all of us - Kenyans to rescue her. I was hoping that Hon. Musalia Mudavadi was so souled-out to Kenya that it did not matter whether he was the general of the army as long as he was in the rescue army. Have we have not come of age so that our political leaders should no longer only count on ethnic support? Should it not rather be a politician’s ideology, vision and policies that counts?
While our people have different ethnic backgrounds, they have shared anxieties and aspirations: peaceful coexistence, a decent job and a securing a future for their children. Do you want to be our next president? Then here is consultancy for free: peace, a job and secure future - this is the ideology, the vision and the policies of the voter. Where are the political formations on people’s issues? Who is the leader willing to put the people first? Forty million of us will not benefit from the ongoing ethnic balkanizations. These are just self serving con-tactics of the rich and elite to hoodwink those with a tribal outlook into giving them political support. Very soon the elite in these ethnic formations shall gang up and parade themselves before us, in stadiums, on television and on radio telling us they are leaders of national stature. Stupid, they are nothing but tribal kings!
There is nothing national about leadership formations that are driven by tribal energies. Voter be aware, these tribal lords after consolidating their ethnic support shall retreat into the safety of hotel board rooms and strike a deal on who is leading the next eaters club.
We are in a new constitutional dispensation – a new order that calls for a new way of doing politics. For us to move forward, there must be tremendous paradigm shift in our political leadership and change of attitude amongst the citizenry. To each of us from the Kenyan tribe - now that we already know their game, why don’t we call their bluff now, hound them out of our politics and refocus on getting a leader that our country needs? We want politicians running for presidency not just to hold office but to transform our nation and make it fit for all of us. We must never succumb to the tragedy of rationalizing challenges of ethnicity as inevitable and thereby rob ourselves of a chance to give ourselves a great leader and move ahead. All of us Kenyans must set our eyes on the horizons of a united, peaceful, cohesive and more prosperous country, and demand our leaders play ball, shape up or ship out. That is why we endured police teargas and jail to overthrow the old constitution. This coming general election is about getting leadership that will implement the constitution and lead us to the promised land.
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Post by wafwaf1 on Apr 19, 2012 16:35:53 GMT 3
Very well said my brother. I share the same ethnicity with MM but strongly believe that he is not the kind of leader that kenyans now need. We need a leader who will herd us into thinking and acting globally; one who will make us believe that we are one country and one people; one who will not make us believe that we should belong to this particular tribe to enjoy the fruits on nationhood; one who will not strive to maintain the status quo; one who will not be strive to appear moderate to gain votes from some regions in this country. Im my honest view, MM's candidature is opportunistic. He is the candidate who is really praying that UK and WSR are not on the ballot box. I say so because he is busy positioning himself as a moderate candidate will less, if any, controversies. I strongly believe than kenyans need a controversial candidate - one who will give us a complete change from the past. I am imagining a president who will appoint a cabinet secretary in the ministry of internal security from a tribe other than his.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 19, 2012 17:29:46 GMT 3
I mourn Mudavadi succumbing to politics of ethnicity By George Nyongesa, the National Coordinator of Bunge la Mwananchi Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM There is no doubt that Hon. Musalia Mudavadi is the news worthy politician of the moment. The fixation with the likely presidential candidature of Mudavadi is said to be because the man is loveable – which has me a little perplexed: does a country require a leader they love or a leader they need? Thanks to the media hype, what started out as "friendly-in-house political spurring" within Orange Democratic Movement is fast gaining flight energy with every passing moment. But even the media darling has like other politicians managed to royally put his foot in his mouth. Hon. Mudavadi had managed to cut himself the image of a moderate politician with national stature. But, I am appalled that in the wake of the infamous Gema and Kamatusa regroupings; that in a country threatened by ethnic cataclysm, the Sabatia legislator did not resist the urge to seek tribal anointing before declaring his next political move. Mudavadi’s latest move to host politicians from Luhyaland may well be his point of no return to the Orange party. I think that his convening of Luhya politicians was an archaic and backward move, characteristic of what continues to rob us of great leadership and make it harder to govern this country. Does he think that he secured my support or vote as a Luhya by just appearing in the media sandwiched by politicians from my ethnic group? Not! His action only caused me to bemoan that our politics only attracts personalities bereft of principles and not willing to pay the price of upholding national values of unity and cohesion. Hon Musalia’s candidacy may sound attractive to Luhyas especially when discussed against claims that we are due for a president from the region. But hold on a second, fellow tribesman. Have you considered the tribe called Kenyans? They too have not had one of their own become a president since independence. Shouldn’t this be their time? I am persuaded that currently the most terrifying problem of our society is the negative nature of ethnicity. As a Kenyan, what I desire and deserve is a leader walking the talk of unity and working on de-ethnicization of our politics. Our country has been battered by tribal contests for too long. It is incumbent on all of us - Kenyans to rescue her. I was hoping that Hon. Musalia Mudavadi was so souled-out to Kenya that it did not matter whether he was the general of the army as long as he was in the rescue army. Have we have not come of age so that our political leaders should no longer only count on ethnic support? Should it not rather be a politician’s ideology, vision and policies that counts? While our people have different ethnic backgrounds, they have shared anxieties and aspirations: peaceful coexistence, a decent job and a securing a future for their children. Do you want to be our next president? Then here is consultancy for free: peace, a job and secure future - this is the ideology, the vision and the policies of the voter. Where are the political formations on people’s issues? Who is the leader willing to put the people first? Forty million of us will not benefit from the ongoing ethnic balkanizations. These are just self serving con-tactics of the rich and elite to hoodwink those with a tribal outlook into giving them political support. Very soon the elite in these ethnic formations shall gang up and parade themselves before us, in stadiums, on television and on radio telling us they are leaders of national stature. Stupid, they are nothing but tribal kings! There is nothing national about leadership formations that are driven by tribal energies. Voter be aware, these tribal lords after consolidating their ethnic support shall retreat into the safety of hotel board rooms and strike a deal on who is leading the next eaters club. We are in a new constitutional dispensation – a new order that calls for a new way of doing politics. For us to move forward, there must be tremendous paradigm shift in our political leadership and change of attitude amongst the citizenry. To each of us from the Kenyan tribe - now that we already know their game, why don’t we call their bluff now, hound them out of our politics and refocus on getting a leader that our country needs? We want politicians running for presidency not just to hold office but to transform our nation and make it fit for all of us. We must never succumb to the tragedy of rationalizing challenges of ethnicity as inevitable and thereby rob ourselves of a chance to give ourselves a great leader and move ahead. All of us Kenyans must set our eyes on the horizons of a united, peaceful, cohesive and more prosperous country, and demand our leaders play ball, shape up or ship out. That is why we endured police teargas and jail to overthrow the old constitution. This coming general election is about getting leadership that will implement the constitution and lead us to the promised land. Brother Nyongesa,You have spoken and eloquently so. Now, the question is, will Mudavadi hear this or has he buried his head deep in the sand and hearing only the reverberating echoes of yesteryear politics of tribalism and division? You say, " I think that his convening of Luhya politicians was an archaic and backward move, characteristic of what continues to rob us of great leadership and make it harder to govern this country. Does he think that he secured my support or vote as a Luhya by just appearing in the media sandwiched by politicians from my ethnic group? Not! This is a reality that awaits not just Mudavadi, but all those still believing that Kenyans can be hoodwinked to voting for them by basically crooks who have not an iota of interest in their well being or progress. For sure, there will be suckers for their deceit and mischief but a majority shall be for leadership that can finally do something to address their needs and make their lives better not just as a stepping stone for self-aggrandizement at their expense. I congratulate you and others who refuse to play the tribal card and speak the truth.
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Post by roughrider on Apr 19, 2012 18:01:25 GMT 3
Well put. Excellent.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 19, 2012 18:06:24 GMT 3
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 19, 2012 20:21:13 GMT 3
Actually the Luhya MP's are telling Mudavadi that he made a big blunder and they are begging him to go back to the party that elevated him to the position that he is in today! THE QUESTION SHOULD BE " DO THE ODM MEMBERS WANT MUDAVADI BACK AFTER HE WENT TO BED WITH RUTO & UHURU? this Mudavid fellow might be used to DERAIL " ODM" IF HE IS ALLOWED BACK.. KALONZO MUSYOKA STYLE!! ODM SHOULD LET HIM GO!! not need to allow him back into the party...no need for wasaliti's.. NEXT ELECTIONS are too important to allow those who plan to sabotage within the party a free hand!
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Post by gemagema on Apr 19, 2012 20:46:34 GMT 3
Mudavadi told to take his own stand and to be cautious of political opportunists
Written by Leonard Wamalwa Embattled deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi has been urged to be cautious as he contemplates on deciding his political future so that he does not succumb to forces that might be pushing him to his political exit. Former Kitale Mayor and supporter of New Ford Kenya Joshua Werunga told West FM in an exclusive interview that the DPM who is also minister for local government should not rely on consultations from fellow politicians and other stakeholders before making his decision but make up his mind individually bearing in mind his vast experience in Kenyan politics. "My friend Musalia should just sit alone and do his own soul searching in his taunting position to announce his next political move as he falls out with his ODM party, but should not rely on the ongoing consultations because this is politics and he should be sure that the decision he makes is the best," Werunga said. He noted that the minister should be like a bird which before jumping from one tree, it always makes a decision as to which tree it is going to land on next other than jumping from the first tree when not sure on which tree it is going to land next. The politician who is the councilor for Lessos ward within Kitale municipality said that Mudavadi should have long decided on which party he was to join next after leaving ODM if he is going to before announcing his fallout plan, but not to remain hanging in the balance for such a relatively long time, a move he said might be dangerous to him politically. "If he feels his political ambitions cannot be made in ODM then let him be fast to announce his next political party and stop hanging in the air just like a bird flies when it is aware of which tree it going to land on because it is dangerous to remain in the air contemplating on where to land as he can be crushed by political sharpshooters while in midair," said Werunga. At the same time Werunga pointed out that the politicians especially from the Western region who are inciting him to leave his ODM party might be having hidden agenda that might be targeting to finish him politically or be eying his position in ODM on his exit. "The politicians who are now surrounding Mudavadi are themselves suspect and have contributed a lot to the crumbling of unity and development in the Western region of this country and thus the minister should take a lot of precautions as he consults and considers their relentless appeals for him to leave the party. We have worked with most of them who are well known to be advocates of personal and selfish interests for their own, but not for the sake of their people," noted Werunga. The politician related Mudavadi's situation to a Luhya tale where the goat lost his beautiful tail after being cheated by other animals to each of them surrendering their tails to be competed upon for new ones. He said that the people putting pressure on him to jump ship are like the other animals who set a competition for the tails luring the goat who after surrendering her tail did not manage to run and get a better one but instead goat the worst and shortest one in all after he got injured at the start of the competition. According to Werunga's story, Mudavadi might end up being the worst loser politically as his inciters and people pressurizing him emerge major beneficiaries of the new political road-map that he has initiated. However, Werunga did not tell Mudavadi to stay or leave but wished him well in whatever decision that he makes as long as he himself deems it wise. Mudavadi told to take his own stand and to be cautious of political opportunists Written by Leonard Wamalwa 2012-04-18 20:27:00 Read 467 Times Bookmark and Share Embattled deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi has been urged to be cautious as he contemplates on deciding his political future so that he does not succumb to forces that might be pushing him to his political exit. Former Kitale Mayor and supporter of New Ford Kenya Joshua Werunga told West FM in an exclusive interview that the DPM who is also minister for local government should not rely on consultations from fellow politicians and other stakeholders before making his decision but make up his mind individually bearing in mind his vast experience in Kenyan politics. "My friend Musalia should just sit alone and do his own soul searching in his taunting position to announce his next political move as he falls out with his ODM party, but should not rely on the ongoing consultations because this is politics and he should be sure that the decision he makes is the best," Werunga said. He noted that the minister should be like a bird which before jumping from one tree, it always makes a decision as to which tree it is going to land on next other than jumping from the first tree when not sure on which tree it is going to land next. The politician who is the councilor for Lessos ward within Kitale municipality said that Mudavadi should have long decided on which party he was to join next after leaving ODM if he is going to before announcing his fallout plan, but not to remain hanging in the balance for such a relatively long time, a move he said might be dangerous to him politically. "If he feels his political ambitions cannot be made in ODM then let him be fast to announce his next political party and stop hanging in the air just like a bird flies when it is aware of which tree it going to land on because it is dangerous to remain in the air contemplating on where to land as he can be crushed by political sharpshooters while in midair," said Werunga. At the same time Werunga pointed out that the politicians especially from the Western region who are inciting him to leave his ODM party might be having hidden agenda that might be targeting to finish him politically or be eying his position in ODM on his exit. "The politicians who are now surrounding Mudavadi are themselves suspect and have contributed a lot to the crumbling of unity and development in the Western region of this country and thus the minister should take a lot of precautions as he consults and considers their relentless appeals for him to leave the party. We have worked with most of them who are well known to be advocates of personal and selfish interests for their own, but not for the sake of their people," noted Werunga. The politician related Mudavadi's situation to a Luhya tale where the goat lost his beautiful tail after being cheated by other animals to each of them surrendering their tails to be competed upon for new ones. He said that the people putting pressure on him to jump ship are like the other animals who set a competition for the tails luring the goat who after surrendering her tail did not manage to run and get a better one but instead goat the worst and shortest one in all after he got injured at the start of the competition. According to Werunga's story, Mudavadi might end up being the worst loser politically as his inciters and people pressurizing him emerge major beneficiaries of the new political road-map that he has initiated. However, Werunga did not tell Mudavadi to stay or leave but wished him well in whatever decision that he makes as long as he himself deems it wise. Source: westfm.co.ke/index.php?page=news&bid=5189
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 19, 2012 21:01:06 GMT 3
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Post by abdulmote on Apr 19, 2012 21:25:35 GMT 3
I don’t understand. What is all this pleading with MM to stay in ODM about? What ideology is he made of if not his perceived power to pull his ethnic votes? What is Mudavadi made of if anything?
Talk of double speak in the name of ‘winning’, and here I have not included the subject poster!
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Post by deyiengs on Apr 19, 2012 21:38:57 GMT 3
Omwenga, Staying put in ODM is no longer an option for Mudavadi, ah-ah. His dilemma is not even getting the right party, I would believe. He has already identified a party. His problem, I would hypothesize, is how to move out without being seen as a selfish politician with a hidden agenda: one who got scared of Raila and moved out or one who feels that he should, through thick and thin, be on the ballot come next elections. His aim is to make sure that people will be sympathetic with him and thereby troop to his side.
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Post by bob on Apr 19, 2012 22:08:26 GMT 3
Usione simba amenyeshewa ukadhani ni paka. RAO did shed his tribal image long time ago & has sizable following across Kenya more than any other presidential material as well as pretenders. He goes directly to the people as opposed to other political warlords. MM has put a gun on his head willing trying to commit political suicide,he may choose to pull the trigger which will mark the beginning & the end of him thanks to the new constitution which is giving the current crop of politicians sleepless nights. The more he delays the more it will be difficult to muster even half a million votes. The likes of Khalwale, Kizito cannot be taken as serious political advisers. Khalwale keeps on bringing in RAO'S name in every gathering in west Kenya he attends to bolster his political image & I cannot remember having ever seen this guy address any gathering outside western. MM's brothers have just given he unsolicited free advise. Trust me son of Mudamba is the most stressed politician in country today,other than condemnation he actually needs prayers.
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Post by mbuta on Apr 19, 2012 22:55:24 GMT 3
Let me say this, as a Keen observer of politics in Kenya, the moment Mudavadi announces which party he is joining and in which capacity, that'll be the moment the media will loose interest in him. See, the Kenyan media is like bees to honey....
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 19, 2012 23:23:35 GMT 3
Omwenga, Staying put in ODM is no longer an option for Mudavadi, ah-ah. His dilemma is not even getting the right party, I would believe. He has already identified a party. His problem, I would hypothesize, is how to move out without being seen as a selfish politician with a hidden agenda: one who got scared of Raila and moved out or one who feels that he should, through thick and thin, be on the ballot come next elections. His aim is to make sure that people will be sympathetic with him and thereby troop to his side. Deyiengs,This is one saga I would like to revisit after the elections. My take on it this was a carefully planned event that has been poorly executed. In cases such as this, one thing is certain to occur and that is, someone is going to come out of it with an egg on their face. Be that as it may be, notwithstanding the motivation behind what started all of this, Mudavadi now finds himself squarely in the middle of the unenviable position of damned if he does, damned if doesn't with the only consolation being one damnation is less severe, less harmful and less painful than the other.
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Post by Omwenga on Apr 19, 2012 23:35:18 GMT 3
Usione simba amenyeshewa ukadhani ni paka. RAO did shed his tribal image long time ago & has sizable following across Kenya more than any other presidential material as well as pretenders. Trust me son of Mudamba is the most stressed politician in country today,other than condemnation he actually needs prayers. Bob,This is so true, many like yours truly see the same thing, others will see it long after as has been the case with Raila all his life. Someone else said underestimate him at your own peril. What I always shake my head wondering, is how come those who know him very well; have had time to work with him closely end up acting as though they just landed from the moon and have no idea what he is capable of? I am not saying it's over and we should now proceed to having him sworn but each one of these schemers are falling by the wayside on their own swords, let's hope Mudavadi doesn't join the club. For those who don't know where I am coming from with this, my confidence is in my belief that the number of Kenyans who love or at least care about our country and the progressives who want the best of it regardless of where one hails from far more outnumber those who don't and and those who would want the country to remain stagnant or regress in every aspect of gains we have made, and this primarily include the tribalists and backward looking, self-interested so-called leaders and those who would blindly follow them.
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Post by deyiengs on Apr 19, 2012 23:40:42 GMT 3
..... Mudavadi now finds himself squarely in the middle of the unenviable position of damned if he does, damned if doesn't with the only consolation being one damnation is less severe, less harmful and less painful than the other. Omwenga,Masterclass.... needless to say more
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Post by subsaharanite on Apr 20, 2012 0:20:28 GMT 3
In 2002, MM, lost his parliamentary seat as the wave of reforms hit the nation. He blamed fellow luyha legislatures within the then Kanu government for working against him. He was offered a consolation nomination seat, which he refused, as a sign of protest to the KANU government. He his best remembered from this incident, which many praised him for being a man of his own word.
Upon joining ODM, for a long time, he has resisted pressure to turn against Raila but it seems he has finally buckled.
Perhaps, he acted or talked too soon without reasoning. He now finds himself in a bad state. He seems headed to a world he does not know with canibalistic politicians whose main agenda was not to promote him to presidency but rather, use him to deny Raila the post.
It would be useless for him therefore to join another party that will not nominate him as a presidential candidate. That is where he is headed to. Not, Uhuru, Nor Ruto, Nor Kalonzo, not Ngilu, want play number two to anyone. In other words, Nobody wants to make MM the president.
MM has to fight on his own, not even his fellow Luhya's will push him through.
With Rao, there were was a strong indication that at one point, MM would have been the PORK.
I now see him as another misguided politician who had a brighter future within ODM but left it for a quest he does not understand, set by political nemeses who are not interested in helping him.
Nevertheless, he still has time to head back.
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Post by 0tieno on Apr 20, 2012 8:39:56 GMT 3
Why are you all so naive, gullible and stupid? MM is NOT running to dislodge RAO, and he will NOT defect to some other party.
This is a prearranged scheme to show democracy exists within ODM. At the appointed hour, RAO and MM will kiss and make up, to much fanfare and cheering from the Kenya media, who knowingly or unknowingly peddle this soap opera as if it is some serious political realignment.
RAO is fully complicit in what MM is doing and will eventually be the beneficiary of it.
Open your eyes, think about what is happening, and use what is inside your coconuts.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 20, 2012 8:50:18 GMT 3
Why are you all so naive, gullible and stupid? Watch it Otieno with a Zero instead of an O. Many people in Jukwaa are far more intelligent than you are. And I have kicked out people for far less serious infractions. Onyango Oloo Jukwaa Administrator
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Post by phil on Apr 25, 2012 10:20:43 GMT 3
G-7 slams the door shut on Mudavadi's face effectively telling him he's welcome to play second fiddle. No handing of direct nominations to the presidency. What a waste this Mudavadi is. No wonder the big announcement never came. G7 gives line-up, conditions for Mudavadi
Published on 23/04/2012 By VINCENT BARTOO
The G7 alliance has laid out conditions for Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi’s possible entry into the outfit after decamping from ODM.
Its leading lights declared that any politician decamping to the group now will have to play second fiddle.
During the homecoming ceremony for Justice Minister Eugene Wamalwa, the leaders announced their regional kingpins.
Dujis MP Adan Duale said the alliance was like a football team with best strikers countrywide.
"We have one objective. To unite the country from Western, Nyanza, Rift Valley, Central, Eastern and Nairobi," he said. He cited Eldoret North MP William Ruto and Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta as Rift Valley and Central Kenya kingpins.
Environment Minister Chirau Ali Mwakwere was Coast representative and Duale North Eastern.
"In Western Province, Wamalwa has his number. Now it is upon you the people of Western to keep him there. Msipoteze network (don’t be swayed)," said Duale.
Other MPs at the function directly told Mudavadi not to expect any preferential treatment in the alliance should he join them. Nairobi Metropolitan Minister Jamleck Kamau said the alliance’s journey to State House started long ago.
"If Mudavadi expects to join us now, he should work under Wamalwa who already has a number in G7," Kamau said.
They appeared angered by Western Province MPs who skipped the event and blamed Mudavadi. Information Minister Samuel Poghisio castigated the leaders for "fearing" to attend the homecoming ceremony.
Nominated MP Musikari Kombo, who was the master of ceremony and former Budalangi MP Raphael Wanjala were the only leaders from the region.
Westlands MP Fred Gumo, who is also a key ally of Prime Minister Raila Odinga, was the surprise guest.
"Those running away should know that it will not be easy going out there," said Gumo. Gumo said Uhuru, Ruto and Wamalwa had serious presidential ambitions.
"If you think you will run away and be received with open arms, you are mistaken because these three are serious in their presidential bids and will not abandon them for you," said the Regional Development minister.
Gumo told Uhuru and Ruto some politicians were hoping to cash in on their predicament at the ICC. Uhuru and Ruto supported Wamalwa saying he was their preferred point man in Western.
With that vote of confidence, Wamalwa announced that he would relinquish his Saboti seat in the forthcoming General Election and would not contest any seat in Trans Nzoia County.
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There was widespread speculation that Mudavadi could be the G7 compromise candidate should Uhuru and Ruto be barred from contesting.
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Post by phil on Apr 25, 2012 16:22:21 GMT 3
Tit bits from today's ceremony from the Registrar's office should give Mudavadi reason to be worried. He may have thought ODM MPs and supporters will follow him wherever he goes. So far I only see Justus Kizito around Mudavadi.
Alfred Khangati an ODM MP from Western said. "We didn't join ODM coz of someone, we are in ODM by right. Western Province is solidly in ODM"
Nairobi Mayor Aladwa (previously thought to be Mudavadi's camp) was quoted as saying: "Whoever wants to leave ODM should juz leave, we shall remain loyal in the party"
Henry Kosgey, the party Chairman did not leave any doubt. He personally is firmly in ODM saying it is the only national party!
Ababu Namwamba, another MP from Western was even more categorical: "ODM is the only party with a national outlook, its ready for the grand match to statehouse"
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Post by OtishOtish on Apr 25, 2012 17:08:56 GMT 3
Why are you all so naive, gullible and stupid? MM is NOT running to dislodge RAO, and he will NOT defect to some other party. This is a prearranged scheme to show democracy exists within ODM. At the appointed hour, RAO and MM will kiss and make up, to much fanfare and cheering from the Kenya media, who knowingly or unknowingly peddle this soap opera as if it is some serious political realignment. RAO is fully complicit in what MM is doing and will eventually be the beneficiary of it. Open your eyes, think about what is happening, and use what is inside your coconuts. On behalf of the naive, gullible and stupid, may I ask this, which is burning the insides of my coconut: Did you forget to tell Mudavadi all your predictions?
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Post by tnk on Apr 25, 2012 18:15:37 GMT 3
Tit bits from today's ceremony from the Registrar's office should give Mudavadi reason to be worried. He may have thought ODM MPs and supporters will follow him wherever he goes. So far I only see Justus Kizito around Mudavadi. Alfred Khangati an ODM MP from Western said. "We didn't join ODM coz of someone, we are in ODM by right. Western Province is solidly in ODM"Nairobi Mayor Aladwa (previously thought to be Mudavadi's camp) was quoted as saying: "Whoever wants to leave ODM should juz leave, we shall remain loyal in the party"Henry Kosgey, the party Chairman did not leave any doubt. He personally is firmly in ODM saying it is the only national party! Ababu Namwamba, another MP from Western was even more categorical: "ODM is the only party with a national outlook, its ready for the grand match to statehouse"smart politics and well played. also looks like kosgey will emerge as a wise and trusted leader in RV, ababu should get cabinet posting as for musalia ........ well he will need a helping hand back up, in this case he should be left with the DPM title but give up min of local govt. and then get assigned some other duties at orange house. if however he insists on leaving then he should be let go. he can keep the tag of DPM but it will not help him unless he joins forces with PNU
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 25, 2012 19:33:22 GMT 3
I think you guys are underestimating Musalia's effect on ODM. Whereas Mudavadi is capable of running away for over 50% of western votes, Kosgei cannot guarantee ODM even 100k from his N. Rift. Do the math.
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 25, 2012 19:41:57 GMT 3
I think you guys are underestimating Musalia's effect on ODM. Whereas Mudavadi is capable of running away for over 50% of western votes, Kosgei cannot guarantee ODM even 100k from his N. Rift. Do the math. hehehehehehehe. So Mudavadi can take 50% of the Western vote (whatever that is). Do you have any idea where he be taking them to? To his home in Mululu? To the G7? To New Ford Kenya? And where do the votes go after Mudavadi flops miserably in Round One? Of course, of course they will go to the G7! Fantasy is great but it is just that. Fantasy. Have you noticed that since Mudavadi's battles with ODM stopped, not even the local radio station is talking to him. What happened? Why is there zero interest in Mudavadi by the media which was quoting his aides and even cooks daily? Fighting Raila can swell peoples' heads and then kaboom the fight is over and all the attention is gone. Mudavadi will have to learn the hard way. It is a choice he made.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 25, 2012 19:48:12 GMT 3
I think you guys are underestimating Musalia's effect on ODM. Whereas Mudavadi is capable of running away for over 50% of western votes, Kosgei cannot guarantee ODM even 100k from his N. Rift. Do the math. hehehehehehehe. So Mudavadi can take 50% of the Western vote (whatever that is). Do you have any idea where he be taking them to? To his home in Mululu? To the G7? To New Ford Kenya? And where do the votes go after Mudavadi flops miserably in Round One? Of course, of course they will go to the G7! Fantasy is great but it is just that. Fantasy. Mudavadi can still run as an independent candidate; he mustn't belong to a party to shake up the Kenyan political landscape. Round one looks good, very good indeed for three candidates, Mudavadi included, he only needs to start working hard pronto.
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