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Post by danieldotwaweru on Apr 30, 2012 22:34:10 GMT 3
(1) Play the ODMer bullsh!t elsewhere. What we have are reasonable grounds for complaint that these appointments are not in conformity with the law requiring representativity. Until that complaint has been backed by decisive evidence, we're not in a position to assert that there has been an injustice.
(2) ODMers have already begun to use the complaint as grounds for ethnic baiting: you might be interested to read some of the comments on this very thread. The baiting is tiresome; ODMers have a history of doing it; ODMers also have a history of mass violence motivated by it. It will therefore get the pushback it has earned.
What you are saying here is hogwash. Spare the Jukwaa forum your holier than though attitude. This country belongs to all of us, not just a few of us. Ali Hassan Joho, assistant minister for Transport in Kimunya's docket is an ODM MP (recently appointed to that position by the PM) and has been quoted variously defending the skewed and illegal KPA appointments. Is that your evidence of ODM ethnic baiting? ODM have a history of mass action. Muslim leaders, the same ones who cut links with ODM last month when Balala was sacked, are also condemning the KPA board appointments, how does that amount to ODM ethnic baiting. What about the dock workers union officials, are they also a branch of ODM? Clearly misguided thinking and misplaced superiority complex. I think you have nothing to go on this thread. Actually, you are the one who is desperately trying to plant anti-ODM hate while pointing fingers at others for doing the same. That is bullshi!t I wont buy.
(1) Thou, not though.
(2) This discovery that the country belongs to all of us appears to be new to you and your party, since your party has defended secession in the very recent past, and you yourself have defended violence against those who, given their ethnicity, are not likely to support ODM. (They were 'collateral damage', as you so charmingly put it.)
(3) Parties can do things which not all their members do: that Joho isn't baiting is some distance from showing that your party isn't. Your other defence is that other people are baiting: this doesn't even begin to show that your party isn't. (It's rather like a child caught stealing sugar who says that he isn't stealing sugar because others are.)
(4) I don't belong to, nor do I support, a party that spent years planning the mass murder of fellow countrymen. I do not belong to, nor do I support, a party that actually perpetrated mass ethnic murder. (Mass murder, be it noted, some of which consisted in the deliberate killing of women and children; and, in some cases, of women and their newborn children.) In this respect, I am, most definitely, your moral superior.
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 30, 2012 22:49:32 GMT 3
I can see the anti ODM hate mongers are back yapping about ODM and mass murder. It hasn't worked so far after the same elements have tried for years. If anybody has evidence of ODM mass murder take it to Ocampo and stop peddling hateful nonsense in Jukwaa. The suspects on mass murder in Kenya are facing trial at the Hague. None of them has been charged as committing crimes on behalf of ODM. One group is charged with being part of a criminal enterprise loosely called "The Network". Then we have the little Mungiki prince Mr. Muthamaki charged with organising mass murder and rape in Naivasha and Nakuru.
Those are the cases we know. The loud mouths who want ODM charged have failed miserably to come up with any evidence to back up their endless rants. Too bad. Ocampo does not prepare his charges based on endless lies spread or desperate heckling by some in the internet. The poor guy needs real evidence.
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on Apr 30, 2012 22:57:50 GMT 3
It seems Githae is having a go elsewhere....at CMA www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057334&cid=457&Never forget that the guys who control CMA board are 8/13....They are the ones dictating the stock market and therefore money made by cartels....don't forget that they have intentionally kept Safaricom share price down to frustrate the common man who will sell his/her shares. The mafia will buy every share on offer and soon you will find that safaricom will become Mt Kenya property just like Kengen
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 30, 2012 23:59:56 GMT 3
It seems Githae is having a go elsewhere....at CMA www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057334&cid=457&Never forget that the guys who control CMA board are 8/13....They are the ones dictating the stock market and therefore money made by cartels....don't forget that they have intentionally kept Safaricom share price down to frustrate the common man who will sell his/her shares. The mafia will buy every share on offer and soon you will find that safaricom will become Mt Kenya property just like Kengen Kenyans should not worry.. where do these crooks think they will hide their illegally acquired $$$$$? not in the USA or Europe? Maybe they think China banks are safe ;D ;D but that is just a mirage!!word is that information is being collected on all thieves accounts abroad including accounts held by mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, cousins, close friends, lawyer friends e.t.c money movements from account to account is also being monitored, Kenyans should just sit back and wait for the sunami.. some crooks will be soon herding goats in their out dated designer suits and skirts ;D in their villages or behind bars.. 2012 - 2013 will be an interesting year Kenyans hope... when one steals from the Kenyan citizens through government shoddy deals or acquire wealth through dubious means.. thinking that nobody can see what is in their accounts.. they are in dreamland.. hakuna pali yaku fija besha! under the mattress or buying properties won't work any more... those properties too will be attached.. bure kabisa hawa wezi..
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Post by Titchaz on May 1, 2012 2:16:19 GMT 3
Coast leaders demand new directors for KPA Transport Assistant minister Hassan Ali Joho address journalists at the KPA headquarters in Mombasa, flanked by Transport PS Cyrus Njiru. Board of directors:1.Baramadi Shukri – chairman 2.Khadija Karim – director 3.Abdallah Fadhil – director 4.Ian Karanja – director 5.Bernard Gaithuma - director 6.Eunice Njeru - director 7.Musengi – director 8.Joseph Kinyua (Alt. Esther Koimett) – PS Finance 9.Cyrus Njiru (Alt. G. G. Irungu) – PS Transport 10. James Waweru – Rep. Attorney General 11. Edward Ngige (now replaced by a Mr Ondiek) – Rep Inspector State Corporations 12. Nduva Muli – Managing Director, Kenya Railways Corporation 13. Gichiri Ndua – Managing Director, Kenya Ports Authority 14. Muthoni Gatere – Corporation/Board secretary www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Coast+leaders+demand+new+directors+for+KPA/-/1064/1396986/-/hpeqwxz/-/index.html
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Post by adongo23456 on May 1, 2012 4:23:17 GMT 3
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Post by job on May 1, 2012 6:22:56 GMT 3
Omar Hassan is spot on...the new Constitution doesn't allow these games anymore. Kimunya must be reminded we have a new Constitution which we intend to adhere to - both in letter and spirit.
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Post by phil on May 1, 2012 10:06:43 GMT 3
I can see the anti ODM hate mongers are back yapping about ODM and mass murder. It hasn't worked so far after the same elements have tried for years. If anybody has evidence of ODM mass murder take it to Ocampo and stop peddling hateful nonsense in Jukwaa. The suspects on mass murder in Kenya are facing trial at the Hague. None of them has been charged as committing crimes on behalf of ODM. One group is charged with being part of a criminal enterprise loosely called "The Network". Then we have the little Mungiki prince Mr. Muthamaki charged with organising mass murder and rape in Naivasha and Nakuru. Those are the cases we know. The loud mouths who want ODM charged have failed miserably to come up with any evidence to back up their endless rants. Too bad. Ocampo does not prepare his charges based on endless lies spread or desperate heckling by some in the internet. The poor guy needs real evidence. Glad you noticed this desperate attempt to hijack this thread and deflect attention from the injustice of Amos Kimunya at KPA. We shall continue undeterred.
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on May 1, 2012 11:54:44 GMT 3
Hassan Omar is spot on....i do not want to be branded a tribalist, but if am jobless, and and have the perception that i cannot have a job just because i am not from the right tribe, then i can be VERY Violent....and i mean violent! It may not be me but i interact with people from my adopted home (KTL) and my birth home (ELD) who share that kind of sentiment. All these synthetic reconciliations by churches, NGOs and "govt" is USELESS if there is no justice. Infact, the so-called reconciliation can boomerang so dangerously. What is reconciliation when your grandparents were forced out of their land in Kondoo farm, Burnt Forest etc to make way for innocent Kikuyu peasants whose land was grabbed by Kenyatta?? What is reconciliation when you enter into the AGs office and you meet people speaking in Kikuyu and when they see you, there is sudden silence? what is reconciliation when your CV is trashed without even being invited for an interview while someone you know from the "right tribe" and inferior qualifications is given the job even without an interview? What is reconciliation when nobody has accounted for almost 500 youth who were kidnapped (by Kinuthia Mbugua's and Matthew Iteere's police gangs) in 2008, and are probably dead by now? In fact i know of a boy whom i used to tutor privately in my village who disappeared after being arrested by police in Eldoret on 1 January 2008??? He was his mother's only child ....do you think this woman will ever hear anything about reconciliation?? How about thousands of youth from South Rift, North Rift, Nyanza, Nairobi and Coast who are languishing in jail after being arbitrarily arrested in 2007/2008??? The word "reconciliation" is so over-rated....it can never happen without justice! Just is forgiveness never comes from God unless you repent!
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Post by mbilinjia63 on May 1, 2012 13:10:12 GMT 3
Kenyanpatriot - please note that some names cut across tribes eg good lady Terry Maina, Head HR Consolidated Bank is a Kalenjin!
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on May 1, 2012 13:28:40 GMT 3
mbilinjia63...yeah...i know the name Maina cuts across Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Luo and Luhya...but the name "Terry maina" belongs to just one person i know .................look for other excuses please!
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Post by Titchaz on May 1, 2012 18:23:51 GMT 3
This is one of the voices that has come out with an honest opinion about the 'wrongness' of this whole thing. ....I'm still trying to come to grips with how Joho can side with these fools yet he aspires to be the Governor. I'm working my sources on the fallout of his statement when flanked by Cyrus Njiru. People are already calling him 'Hassan Maina'.... . Ningekua mtaani ningemsubiri mskitini Ijumaa anieleze WTF he just did! There's stories going around ngoja ziwe-authenticated kisha I will add something to this saga.
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Post by joblesscorner on May 1, 2012 19:25:41 GMT 3
barmasaiengkeiyo or whatever the heck your handle/s on this board is/are! I'm not anybody's hero and my name is kathure and who is Kithure? ;D ;D He was just rhyming the tune ;D ;D ;D
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Post by phil on May 1, 2012 21:42:49 GMT 3
Hon. Ali Hassan Joho PRESS RELEASE
My attention has been drawn to media reports appearing in today’s dailies that seems to suggest that I, Hon. Hassan Ali Joho, the Transport Assistant Minister has endorsed the newly inaugurated KPA board of directors that was recently gazetted vide several Gazette Notices.
This is far from the truth.
I wish to state from the onset that I am a firm believer of ethnic balance when it comes to appointment to public office. As regards to the appointment of the board of directors at the KPA, I wish to state from the onset that we as the people of Kenyan and in particular the Coast region are able to amicably secure a solution to this contentious issue.
An in-depth analysis of the Gazette Notices will reveal that out of 14 positions in the KPA Board, there were seven (7) positions that we have no control over. These are statutory positions various Ministries and the Government has control over. Unless the responsible Ministries opt to appoint individuals drawn from various ethnic extractions, me any you may not be in a position to correct the anomalies in the short term. These institutions include;
• Treasury. • PS Transport. • Attorney General. • Inspector of State Corporations. • Kenya Railways. • KPA Managing Director. • KPA Company Secretary.
Having scrutinized the Gazette Notices, the Coast region where KPA is located, was allocated three (3) slots through the appointments of Mr Barmadi Shukri (Chairman), Mrs Khadija Karim (Director) and Mr Abdallah Fadhil (Director). The other remaining four slots were allocated to other individuals.
I wish to state and make it clear that the Kenya Port Authority is a strategic asset to the people of Coast and I as a leader will do what it takes to ensure that it remains an asset for the present and future generation residing in the Coast region. I shall be the last person to condone any attempts that seeks to dispossess the coastal communities of this vital strategic asset. Coast needs more representation in KPA board and as a leader from the Coast region; I’m in agreement with the desire and wishes of Coast Members of Parliament and opinion leaders that the region needs to have an enhanced representation in the board.
As your representative, I undertake to fulfill this desire. I have already petitioned the Minister for Transport Hon. Amos Kimunya to consider this matter urgently.
Your will be seeing action shortly.
Hon. Hassan Ali Joho, MP ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT
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Post by joblesscorner on May 1, 2012 22:34:13 GMT 3
This is the reason, we dont need Mkate nusu and Mkeka nusu, because they both work in the same Building..
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Post by Titchaz on May 2, 2012 0:29:14 GMT 3
Hon. Ali Hassan Joho PRESS RELEASEMy attention has been drawn to media reports appearing in today’s dailies that seems to suggest that I, Hon. Hassan Ali Joho, the Transport Assistant Minister has endorsed the newly inaugurated KPA board of directors that was recently gazetted vide several Gazette Notices. This is far from the truth. I wish to state from the onset that I am a firm believer of ethnic balance when it comes to appointment to public office. As regards to the appointment of the board of directors at the KPA, I wish to state from the onset that we as the people of Kenyan and in particular the Coast region are able to amicably secure a solution to this contentious issue. An in-depth analysis of the Gazette Notices will reveal that out of 14 positions in the KPA Board, there were seven (7) positions that we have no control over. These are statutory positions various Ministries and the Government has control over. Unless the responsible Ministries opt to appoint individuals drawn from various ethnic extractions, me any you may not be in a position to correct the anomalies in the short term. These institutions include; • Treasury. • PS Transport. • Attorney General. • Inspector of State Corporations. • Kenya Railways. • KPA Managing Director. • KPA Company Secretary. Having scrutinized the Gazette Notices, the Coast region where KPA is located, was allocated three (3) slots through the appointments of Mr Barmadi Shukri (Chairman), Mrs Khadija Karim (Director) and Mr Abdallah Fadhil (Director). The other remaining four slots were allocated to other individuals. I wish to state and make it clear that the Kenya Port Authority is a strategic asset to the people of Coast and I as a leader will do what it takes to ensure that it remains an asset for the present and future generation residing in the Coast region. I shall be the last person to condone any attempts that seeks to dispossess the coastal communities of this vital strategic asset. Coast needs more representation in KPA board and as a leader from the Coast region; I’m in agreement with the desire and wishes of Coast Members of Parliament and opinion leaders that the region needs to have an enhanced representation in the board. As your representative, I undertake to fulfill this desire. I have already petitioned the Minister for Transport Hon. Amos Kimunya to consider this matter urgently. Your will be seeing action shortly. Hon. Hassan Ali Joho, MP ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT Phil,I'm still not convinced! ...Who appointed the MD for KPA by the way?...and how did that fight go down bwana Waziri if I may ask? ...In that petition to Kimunya what did he specifically ask him to do so to correct this anomally? ...Huyu Joho sasa ataonekana kama analeta mambo ya ndumilakuwili!
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Post by justfacts on May 2, 2012 11:17:08 GMT 3
marikopolitico,
Merit sure seems slanted towards one region..... would you admit? Does this make other regions the domain of dunderheads?
Secondly, most of these are appointed posts- no vetting done. So meritocratic people had no chance to contest for them.
In short. Don't be in denial, your rationalization of this grave malady is weak.
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Post by nalinali on May 2, 2012 14:21:46 GMT 3
marikopolitico, Merit sure seems slanted towards one region..... would you admit? Does this make other regions the domain of dunderheads? Secondly, most of these are appointed posts- no vetting done. So meritocratic people had no chance to contest for them. In short. Don't be in denial, your rationalization of this grave malady is weak. I will say this for the umpteenth time: IN A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, MERIT AND REPRESENTATION MUST NEVER BE TAKEN US MUTUALLY OPPOSING VALUES. What the Kimunyas and their aficionados want as to do is to accept that the two values are contradictory. They are not.
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on May 2, 2012 15:05:38 GMT 3
That is why i support MRC and other secessionist groups....
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Post by Omwenga on May 2, 2012 15:50:28 GMT 3
According to the Kenya Gazettw Notice 5058 of 20th April 2012, these are the New board of Directors at the Kenya Port Authority. "KPA" What does the K stand for Baramadi Shukri- Chairman - Lamu, Khadija Karim director -Lamu Abdallah Fadhil Director -Lamu Ian Karanja Director -Central Bernard Gaithua Director -Central Eunice Njeru Director Central Joseph Kinyua PS Finance Central Cyrus Njiru PS Transport Central James Waweru Rep Attoney G Central Edward Ngige Rep. Inspector State Central Gichiri Ndua MD kpa Central Muthoni Gatere Corparation/board Central. Nduva Muli MD Kenya Railways Eastern. Actually this the what is reffered as Regional Balance by the Current Governement. Depending on who the incoming administration is, there is going to be a purging of this nonsense once for all or further perpetuation of the same. To say flagrant abuse of power like this is shamelessly arrogant and uncouth is an understatement.
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Post by marikopolitico on May 2, 2012 17:24:00 GMT 3
That is why i support MRC and other secessionist groups.... LONG LIVE BIAFRA!
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Post by marikopolitico on May 2, 2012 17:36:23 GMT 3
marikopolitico, Merit sure seems slanted towards one region..... would you admit? Does this make other regions the domain of dunderheads? Secondly, most of these are appointed posts- no vetting done. So meritocratic people had no chance to contest for them. In short. Don't be in denial, your rationalization of this grave malady is weak. I will say this for the umpteenth time: IN A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, MERIT AND REPRESENTATION MUST NEVER BE TAKEN US MUTUALLY OPPOSING VALUES. What the Kimunyas and their aficionados want as to do is to accept that the two values are contradictory. They are not. Kimunya really SNAFUd this KPA issue no doubt. Call it naivety.In my young years I have never at any point felt that I belong to any tribe.Perhaps its the benefit/curse of a dual ethnic ancestry or growing up in a multiracial neighbourhood. Whichever case what grinds my gears is how much emphasis is placed on surnames in our country. I think of it as latterday racism(which it really is). Kimunya needs to be censured in the strongest terms possible. So far its silence from our tribally elected parliament.Only Coastal MPs are protesting. No marches,no protests no nothing of note so far. Anyway lets see what a Raila presidency will produce.
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Post by diramu on May 3, 2012 14:07:10 GMT 3
Another shameful BOARD from Ministry of Kimunya
KENYA MARITIME AUTHORITY BOARD 1. Col (Rtd) Joseph Nguru, CBS Chairman - Central 2. Mrs. Nancy W. Karigithu, MBS (MD)- Central 3. Dr. Cyrus Njiru, PhD, CBS Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Transport (Central) 4. Mr. John Njera – (Central) 5. Mr. Joseph K. Kamiri (Cental) 6. Mrs. Beatrice A. Ogolla (Nyanza) 7. Mrs. Roselyn Amadi (Nyanza) 8. Mr. Silvester Kututa (Central) 9. Ms. Bertha J. Dena (Coast) 10. Mr. Seif Bendara, HSC (Coast) 11. Mrs. Margaret Mwangi, HSC (Central) Corporation Secretary
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Post by kamalet on May 3, 2012 14:26:17 GMT 3
Another shameful BOARD from Ministry of Kimunya KENYA MARITIME AUTHORITY BOARD 1. Col (Rtd) Joseph Nguru, CBS Chairman - Central 2. Mrs. Nancy W. Karigithu, MBS (MD)- Central 3. Dr. Cyrus Njiru, PhD, CBS Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Transport (Central) 4. Mr. John Njera – (Central) 5. Mr. Joseph K. Kamiri (Cental) 6. Mrs. Beatrice A. Ogolla (Nyanza) 7. Mrs. Roselyn Amadi (Nyanza) 8. Mr. Silvester Kututa (Central) 9. Ms. Bertha J. Dena (Coast) 10. Mr. Seif Bendara, HSC (Coast) 11. Mrs. Margaret Mwangi, HSC (Central) Corporation Secretary If you wish to achieve the bias you seek, how about tagging the individuals by their tribes? I know a friend of mine with a gikuyu name who only knows Mombasa as his home. Now would you tag him as from Central just becuase he has a gikuyu name? How about Mrs. Amadi, just what if she is from the Mombasa county and not the Luo backyard you seem to tag her on? That is why I said, call them by tribe not where you think they came from!!!
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Post by job on May 3, 2012 17:10:33 GMT 3
Another shameful BOARD from Ministry of Kimunya KENYA MARITIME AUTHORITY BOARD 1. Col (Rtd) Joseph Nguru, CBS Chairman - Central 2. Mrs. Nancy W. Karigithu, MBS (MD)- Central 3. Dr. Cyrus Njiru, PhD, CBS Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Transport (Central) 4. Mr. John Njera – (Central) 5. Mr. Joseph K. Kamiri (Cental) 6. Mrs. Beatrice A. Ogolla (Nyanza) 7. Mrs. Roselyn Amadi (Nyanza) 8. Mr. Silvester Kututa (Central) 9. Ms. Bertha J. Dena (Coast) 10. Mr. Seif Bendara, HSC (Coast) 11. Mrs. Margaret Mwangi, HSC (Central) Corporation Secretary Kimunya, Kimunya, Kimunya!!!!!!!!! This fella has even been barred by Parliament from holding public office in Kenya (following the looting of Grand Regency). But since he is a favourite blue-eyed son of the powers that be - he belligerently trades in his usual corruption and ukabila unencumbered.
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