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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 2, 2014 19:33:32 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, is the ICC really a foreign court? Didn't we domesticate it when we adopted it in the new constitution, duly signed and promulgated by Emilio Mwai Kibaki, UK's real life godfather? Hasn't a sitting Deputy President shuttled back & forth numerous times with zero effect to our sovereignty? What happened to fifty-fifty, for better or for worse? Speaking of the godfather, I saw the wife whom he disowned (with Kalucy by his side) advise Uhuru that he should go to The Hague and hear what Bensouda has to tell him. I also saw Kikuyu elders say a prayer for Muthamaki & equally advise him to fear nothing and go to Den Haag. Kieni MP Kega Kanini also wants him to go yet Homa Bay MP Peter Kaluma doesn't. Hmmmm. Guess who's hoping for yet another "constitutional crisis" here... The incorporation wholesale of stuff like the famous Roman statutes, I think, are some of the characteristics which have made pundits bill our promulgated constitution as the 'state of the art' in Africa! only comparable in the dark continent to the Mandela-DeKlerk document. So in that aspect, the ICC is a legitimate court for Kenyan cases. But is run by foreigners in a foreign land. I think every other Tom Dick and Harry from Kenya is fair game, but the HEAD OF STATE! Nah, the head of state is another piece of cake altogether. There is an argument outside law I warn people to consider. It is called national dignity. Pride and self-respect. A man can be in power, but a mere joke. That is why some leaders are called puppets, and useless dogs, like the president of Egypt after Mohammed Morsi was overthrown. Everyone understood General Fatah Al-Sisi was the act in town. I think it will be understood when Uhuru Kenyatta comes back, that he is not a forged leader of a nation. He will be bent.
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Post by b6k on Oct 2, 2014 21:19:06 GMT 3
Well Jakaswanga it gets more interesting. Although State House is mum on whether Uhuru is going or not, all indications are that he is since over 100 MP's are processing their travel documents at the Dutch embassy. www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/?articleID=2000136871&story_title=over-120-mps-to-accompany-uhuru-to-the-hagueIf Citizen TV is to be believed, 4 fellow heads of state will also accompany UK to Holland. Namely those of Rwanda, Burundi, Ethiopia & Uganda. The inclusion of Museveni in this African entourage is especially remarkable because if true he will be skipping independence day celebrations at home to go to Den Haag! It looks like they intend to blackwash the court... As to the issue on his standing in Africa methinks he's at a crossroads. Having come from back to back US visits (who would've thunk) including where he was allowed to address the UNGA & the UNSC I think he'd be a fool to jeopardize the unprecedented "essential contacts only" treatment he's been getting of late. Let him go and call Bensouda's bluff.
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Post by b6k on Oct 3, 2014 8:46:14 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, if you didn't get to watch David Matsanga on JKL last night you need to look out for it on YouTube! Jeff's bench was on FIRE & Matsanga's head was literally steaming in spite of the cold weather by the Intercontinental Hotel pool.
This Matsanga fellow unleashed a couple of gems last night until Koinange had to give out verbal disclaimers as the allegations were hot! Allow me to paraphrase them below:
1) The country pushing for the ICC Kenya cases is France because they are bitter about not being granted any oil concessions in Kenya 2) The person who "cooked" evidence & brought in names not in their KNHRC reports was (Senator) Omar Hassan 3) The godfather behind the initial PEV killings was Ralla Amolo Odinga 4) The persons who should be before the court are not Uhuruto & Sang but RAO for the initial killings & Mwai Kibaki for the retaliatory ones 5) RAO is a "French puppet" hence his failed peace initiative to Ivory Coast when it had its version of PEV 6) Matsanga personally investigated the movements of victim's counsel, Fergal Gaynor, who met with known Uhuruto opponents at Parklands Sports Club. He (Gaynor) allegedly bought a house in cash somewhere in Nairobi & has a Kenyan spouse/"concubine"
NB: all the above was from Matsanga himself so I will also put a disclaimer while I continue looking for the YouTube link to post here once KTN upload it...
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2014 21:14:36 GMT 3
Well Jakaswanga it gets more interesting. Although State House is mum on whether Uhuru is going or not, all indications are that he is since over 100 MP's are processing their travel documents at the Dutch embassy. www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/?articleID=2000136871&story_title=over-120-mps-to-accompany-uhuru-to-the-hagueIf Citizen TV is to be believed, 4 fellow heads of state will also accompany UK to Holland. Namely those of Rwanda, Burundi, Ethiopia & Uganda. The inclusion of Museveni in this African entourage is especially remarkable because if true he will be skipping independence day celebrations at home to go to Den Haag! It looks like they intend to blackwash the court... As to the issue on his standing in Africa methinks he's at a crossroads. Having come from back to back US visits (who would've thunk) including where he was allowed to address the UNGA & the UNSC I think he'd be a fool to jeopardize the unprecedented "essential contacts only" treatment he's been getting of late. Let him go and call Bensouda's bluff. No, Museveni is not going. But no problem, little Holland has smelled the coffee and will roll out the red carpet treatement for the visiting head of state cum criminal indictee! Slobodan Milosevic and Radogan Karadzic --two former Serbian heads of states arrived there in very 'maliza tuende' fashion of old, where ones feet would barely be touching the ground as two city askaris helped them on toward the black maria. But whatever the case, it does not mask the unsettling humiliation the flag of Kenya shall under go, with son of Jomo, our president, a common law criminal identifying himself and his job. But well, we always maintained our elite are a bunch or thieves. Now we get what is coming to us! DISCLAIMER: Henceforth I may find it very difficult to generate any measure of awe at the office of the presidency of Kenya. When I shall see the commander in chief of Kenya, --the supreme holder of the death command, identifying himself before some nondescript Japanese lady, I suspect the genuine contempt in my heart will be difficult to mask. Apart from the likes of Dedan Kimathi who died that the Kenyan flag be hung, our boys are still out there in Somalia, risking their all. The flag of Kenya is paid for by blood. I do not think things like Uhuru Kenyatta are on the take on that historical fact.
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Post by b6k on Oct 5, 2014 14:39:24 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, Museveni at least has seen the light given he has national celebrations to attend to. I hope the other heads of state will also give the ICC gig a pass. We already show enough Kenyan stupidity when we can have one third of our Mpigs attend such a summons. There's little need to show continental stupidity...
I disagree with you on the "stain" to the flag. The way I see it, Uhuru must attend as an individual since a) the charges were confirmed before he was president & b) the fact that he is now president still obliges him to attend the "foreign court" domesticated by a treaty that KE happens to be a signatory to. In fact, I'd go a step further & argue that not only will he now be obliged to appear before a Kenyan court now that a precedent is in the making but that all Commonwealth heads of state, or wherever British style common law is practiced should follow our progressive head of state's "step down" to the summons of an international court of law.
What does bring a stain to the flag is not so much UK's humility but the Mpigs unnecessary presence at the court. If I were Uhuru I would dissuade the Mpigs from the group trip to The Hague. Even though they are purportedly using their personal funds, which they've already fleeced from us anyway, they ought to be doing something more constructive with their time than singing the anthem & kumbayas outside the ICC. I was particularly disappointed to see a whole CS in the person on Charity Ngilu queuing for a visa at the Dutch embassy in an era where the cabinet is supposed to be divorced from politics.
Once Njakip's trials come to an end, and all indications are that they will, Uhuru will come out of this whole saga much stronger. Kenya, by having a head of state who humbled himself before international law, will come out looking better in the eyes of the world. Whether the same will ever be said of New Rome emperors who wantonly kill & maim hundreds of thousands by drones or Tomahawks with their poodle allies in tow, is something KE should be proud of...
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 5, 2014 16:32:57 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, Museveni at least has seen the light given he has national celebrations to attend to. I hope the other heads of state will also give the ICC gig a pass. We already show enough Kenyan stupidity when we can have one third of our Mpigs attend such a summons. There's little need to show continental stupidity... I disagree with you on the "stain" to the flag. The way I see it, Uhuru must attend as an individual since a) the charges were confirmed before he was president & b) the fact that he is now president still obliges him to attend the "foreign court" domesticated by a treaty that KE happens to be a signatory to. In fact, I'd go a step further & argue that not only will he now be obliged to appear before a Kenyan court now that a precedent is in the making but that all Commonwealth heads of state, or wherever British style common law is practiced should follow our progressive head of state's "step down" to the summons of an international court of law. I must admit that, too focussed on national pride old style, the idea of this appearance setting a precedent which can be applied locally, and then as an example throughout the commonwealth at large, did not occur to me. --It has its charms, as far as what i would call the welcome 'demythologisation' of the office of Rais goes! back to a mere mortal who should not have autonomies/immunity from the due legal processes which befall ordinary folks. you really mean a Kenyan minister needs a VISA to enter the EU? and she must get it personally? kwani the dutch think Ngilu would apply for assylum there? go away man! that in Podp's patented colours, it is an interpretation way out of my imagination. I will mull over it. A kenya that set the example in humility!? Now, that paycut for Mpigs and bureaucrats to boot! When Uhuru comes home, in deed we will ever point out to the murderous New Romans in their lofty capitals, that they risk arrest when they come to Kenya! To change our laws to be able to arrest Cameron and Obama, we may need to get rid of Mutunga and AG Muigai first. I can only see them urinating in their pants at the thought only!
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Post by b6k on Oct 6, 2014 16:37:07 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, so President Uhuru Kenyatta invokes Article 147:3 & appoints Deputy President William Ruto as ACTING PRESIDENT while CITIZEN Uhuru Kenyatta attends the status conference over at the ICC! BRILLIANT MOVE!!!
Uhuru walks to Harambee House from Parliament for next official statement.
Can't say I saw that coming. What next for CORD?
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 6, 2014 20:27:33 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, so President Uhuru Kenyatta invokes Article 147:3 & appoints Deputy President William Ruto as ACTING PRESIDENT while CITIZEN Uhuru Kenyatta attends the status conference over at the ICC! BRILLIANT MOVE!!! Uhuru walks to Harambee House from Parliament for next official statement. Can't say I saw that coming. What next for CORD? b6k, fwaka would better. --I had just written a centerpiece on the implications for Kenyan nationalism if the commander in chief of the nation bows before some foreign hirelings. I now wont post it in original form following this ''temporary resignation'. Listen to this logic I was putting through earlier on, and from which I developed the now aborted thesis: I am therefor thrilled the son of Jomo has recognised the limits of Jokes he can play on the national flag won by blood. --fwaking comprador vermin! No man, No God, should dishonour the flag of my land --spit on the blood of those who fought to death that it be raised! good move Ouru, bravo yeah; but keep watching it! Keep your mind sober. We may just get a president out of you yet!
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 8, 2014 22:33:54 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, so President Uhuru Kenyatta invokes Article 147:3 & appoints Deputy President William Ruto as ACTING PRESIDENT while CITIZEN Uhuru Kenyatta attends the status conference over at the ICC! BRILLIANT MOVE!!! Uhuru walks to Harambee House from Parliament for next official statement. Can't say I saw that coming. What next for CORD? lIVE, Uhuru Kenyatta differentiated into two distinct entities, and got away with it. He shed off the coat of the presidency, hanged it on Ruto's shoulders and left for the Hague. He finished his business there, came back and relieved Ruto of the weight of the presidential coat! It is a Zinedine Zidane move! and it will ride! -- Oroch oweyo kabut mar ker dala kong'awo e gok Ruto; oidho ndege duk odhi Holland, otieko ma kuro, eka oduogo orwako kabut mar ker kendo, kogologo a gok Ruto kuma nyoro ong'awee!WHO IS ZINEDINE ZIDANE, asks someone, and what is a passing move? Here on youtube, a review of some of the stunning stunts that made him the legend of the decade, in football. He was a world-cup winning football French captain, and is of Algerian origins. But beware, there is a bad joke about Mohammed Babangida of Nigeria who was known as 'Maradona' in his prime.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jun 12, 2015 23:02:34 GMT 3
LUHYA POLITICS AT THE RAPIDSGeneral Ababu Namwamba of CORD, have you hang up your military boots, or are you paralysed in indecision after Mutea Iringo drove a solar plexus which dispersed your wits as it knocked you off the PAC perch? I ask this because pirates are stirring in your waters, and they will make up your mind for you as you still hesitate, and busy yourself calculating the winning side. Being a general during a war is hard fence sitting! jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/5894 jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/5476 Kenneth Marende has launched a party! Emm, a kind of AMANI party. You know, a Luhya party to compete the two half FORDs of Wamalwa and Wetangula. Musalia Mudavadi in the words of Marende, is going nowhere. But running away from your shadow is a tall agenda. Marende has already been preconcluded as a JUBILEE project by others more forthright. I thought Mudavadi too is cooperating with Jubilee, having signed a memorandum with Uhuru? If that is going nowhere, where is Marende going then with a similar MOU? Uhuru calculates Marende is a better 'bedwarmer/crowd-puller' than the dried up cheergirl Mudamba? Or what? The good news is Marende is an obvious stooge, Ababu. The bad news is he is a Luhya. He is giving Luhyas a very bad name. Re-affirming stereotypes for a national laugh! Yes, he (Marende) has been on the receiving end of Uhuru Kenyatta's warm gaze. Patronised into a parastatal headship, then again awarded a travellorship, aka diplomatic trouble-shooter to the CAR. Free lunches being fiction in politics and life, Kenneth is in debt and must repay the good meals he has come into, like a courtesan with a past. Methinks he can not marshall the Luhya vote into one basket, thus he can only further divide it, acting as a spoiler. But can he even do that? Or he is like our own Otieno Dalmas and the Kalausi non-starter? OURU KENYATTA AS AN AFRICAN JOKE IN CONFLICT RESOLUTION. All politics is local, but Uhuru Kenyatta is overdoing it, in his forays into the regional conflicts around us. He appointed Otieno Dalmas to a very complicated situation in South Sudan, and the perception, rightly in my opinion, was that it was merely to clip Raila Odinga's wings in Nyanza, sowing a wedge between South and Central. Obviously having a meaningful role for Kenya in Sudan was the last thing in Muigai's mind, otherwise he could have relied on folks like Gen. Sumbeiyo -(or others should he be dead)-- of the Moi era, that is those who helped midwife the independence of South Sudan and know all the parties involved at a personal and professional level, and, in addition, command military traction. And so Dalmas was always a dead duck in the water. Now again, CAR is a viper's nest --The French Army have been running their own rape camp in Bangui -O Africa! I remember long ago in the 10th parliament Marende had his Nestor moments, had his brainstorming shines, some of them even Solomonic; and for a while he displayed a rare acumen in a Kenyan Mpig, qualities which in deed would be a daily helping in a war-torn land like CAR. But now that he is a presidential candidate, and time being what it is, I think we can dismiss his diplomatic efforts in the same words he, Marende, described Mudavadi's ANC: non-starter. What this reveals is a strategic vacuum at the heart of Uhuru's c ontinental thinking. His handlers see in intractable African conflicts, merely opportunities to bestow patronage to political pawns, political pawns he deems useful in his domestic power games against feared opponents. It may be good politics in his opinion as a candidate PORK, but it reveals why even dickheads like Nkurunziza running open sewers like Burundi thumb their noses at us, yet our economy is a million times theirs. Contempt is our regional fate, since I gathered even a hog like Kabila of Congo refused to let the Kenyan presidential jet fly over his territory en route to Buhari's inauguration. (not to speak of Eritrea or Ethiopia and botched USA trips via Dubai) ' 'Go away! Your presidential jet is used to smuggle Congolese gems! That is why even the Ethiopians turned it back!'' thundered the ndombolo crazed dancers of Kinshasha! Man up! Uhuru Kenyatta! there is no honour in making Marende such a contemptible sucker except for the purposes of revenge. Jirongo is of course fair game. He has never been anything else in his life but for hire and abusive use. Playing cheap Luhya politics in the face of this kind of problem? Ouru omera, bedoga dhano samoro bwana!
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