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Post by Omwenga on Dec 23, 2012 3:12:46 GMT 3
In Mudavadi Has Confirmed Yet Again That He Is Politically, A Dead Man Walking, published in the Star today, www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-100435/mudavadi-has-confirmed-yet-again-he-politically-dead-man-walking I examine recent developments in Kenyan politics involving Musalia Mudavadi and conclude if Mudavadi was politically dead as noted in The Political Eulogy of Musalia Mudavadi, www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-89532/political-eulogy-musalia-mudavadihe has now confirmed he is based on what has happened in the last few days when he was duped into entering into a marriage that has now been dissolved as quickly as it was entered into, leaving Mudavadi once again politically dead. Ironically, only Raila can once again save this man who has demonstrated when it comes to not learning from mistakes, no one should ever think about challenging him nor ever think about breaking his record. Not that that would be necessary as it's doubtful we'll ever see another politician repeat the same blunders, let alone want to. As I note in the piece, Mudavadi should altogether quit politics and try other ventures in life.
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 23, 2012 4:36:43 GMT 3
As always, the best time to kick a man is when he's down. After all, he's hardly in a position to mount a robust response.
ODM and its supporters were very happy with Mudumbadi, for more than 5 years. And then he left, at which point, all of a sudden!, lo and behold!, ... etc., he became a very corrupt fellow who was involved in the dirty "Nairobi cemetery scandal".
Eat with us, and we'll stay quiet. Run off, and ...
Anyways ... I think you've done a good job of sticking it to the fellow; it's like Miguna Miguna at "chilled" sub-zero temperatures. Excellent stuff. No, don't get me wrong; I'm not crying for the fellow, who, after all, went out asking for it. But still! ... isn't the body still warm?
So, then, how about Maina Njenga? Another good man until he bolts out?
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Post by Omwenga on Dec 23, 2012 4:49:41 GMT 3
As always, the best time to kick a man is when he's down. After all, he's hardly in a position to mount a robust response. ODM and its supporters were very happy with Mudumbadi, for more than 5 years. And then he left, at which point, all of a sudden!, lo and behold!, ... etc., he became a very corrupt fellow who was involved in the dirty "Nairobi cemetery scandal". Eat with us, and we'll stay quiet. Run off, and ... Anyways ... I think you've done a good job of sticking it to the fellow; it's like Miguna Miguna at "chilled" sub-zero temperatures. Excellent stuff. No, don't get me wrong; I'm not crying for the fellow, who, after all, went out asking for it. But still! ... isn't the body still warm? So, then, how about Maina Njenga? Another good man until he bolts out? I have serious reservations about Maina Njenga and if you recall, I sometime ago noted I would like to do a comprehensive blog on or about him and the question of forgiveness or more specifically, to what extent can someone be seen to have separated himself from his past to deserve an invitation to the table for dinner. I have yet to do this blog partly because even though I met and briefly chatted with Njenga sometime ago, I would like to have a comprehensive sit-down chat in order to have questions I have and I am sure you and others have fully answered--or at lease as fully as possible. I can tell you, however, the brief chat I had with the man changed my impression of him though not necessary facts we all know about him; let's just say it's a complex issue but one best advised not to touch but I hold my conclusions about this till I pen the blog I hope is sooner than later.
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 23, 2012 5:09:21 GMT 3
Friend Omwenga:
Yes, to come, .. in your blog, etc. The issue requires some very Artful Dodging, so I see where you are coming from, as you say over there in America.
I had it mind to write something today about this Maina-Njenga thing, but a bottle of wine got in the way. I've put it on my to-do list for just after the start of the new year.
Maina Njenga aside, how many other alleged crooks are enjoying the warmth of CORD ... as long as they stay on CORD?
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Post by Omwenga on Dec 23, 2012 5:44:19 GMT 3
Friend Omwenga: Yes, to come, .. in your blog, etc. The issue requires some very Artful Dodging, so I see where you are coming from, as you say over there in America. I had it mind to write something today about this Maina-Njenga thing, but a bottle of wine got in the way. I've put it on my to-do list for just after the start of the new year. Maina Njenga aside, how many other alleged crooks are enjoying the warmth of CORD ... as long as they stay on CORD? Friend Otishotish, I am not "artfully dodging" the Maina Njenga issue at all; in fact, I am very much looking forward to doing the piece about him and will share then what my thoughts are. When you ask, You are engaging in a type of discourse I don't normally associate with you as it's the province of some people who shall remain nameless for lobbing unfounded, indiscriminate and sweeping charges that are only intended to smear or cast in bad light without proof. Anyone can do that but not you who I take to be very circumspect in what you say. To make it a valid charge coming from you, this is what you would have to do: First, name names here who these "alleged crooks" in CORD are and what the nature of the allegations are. Second, compare and contrast that with other coalitions, principally Jubilee headed at top by two individuals who remain charged for having committed crimes against humanity and tell us what your findings are. Third, where do we draw the line going by this logic; are we to have parties or coalitions completely free of even a single soul "alleged to be a crook" or do we start from allowing coalitions with at least one "alleged crook" all the way to 20? 50? 100 or 1000? In other words, what number between zero and infinite do we say the number of "alleged crooks" is acceptable knowing fully well to say that number should be zero is political naivete of the worst kind to say the least as there is no party or coalition comprised of only saints. Not one. And neither is anyone a saint among all those in politics. I have previously posted the blog Five Truths and Five Fallacies About Corruption And The War Against It In Kenya I think its apt to cut and paste below for you and others to read, if you or they haven't done so already for it speaks to this very issue of sainthood v what level of sin is acceptable for political purposes. Truth No. 1: Everyone who has had a position of influence in government or any of its parastatal bodies has engaged in corruption of one kind or another, save for a few individuals like my oldest brother who was laughed at for not helping himself to graft through the day he retired as a senior civil servant and even in retirement by people who were either fully engaged in corruption themselves and thinking he was a fool not to or by hypocrites who would rail against corruption but indiscreetly bad mouthed him because they felt cheated because they were hoping and expecting a piece of the action from him on account of his position that would never come. I know there are a few true civil servants like him who have served or continue to serve in our government but the truth is, almost everyone serving in a position of influence in government or any of its parastatal bodies has engaged in corruption of one kind or another, is actively engaged in it or will in due course. I, of course, include in this exception those in the forefront of fighting, and have actually proven their distaste for the vice like Raila. Truth No. 2: The most vocal and avid “anti-corruption” voices out there are either very corrupt individuals themselves or they will engage in extreme corruption in a heartbeat, given the opportunity. Among these, are people who have hitherto been unsuccessful in accomplishing anything in their lives, try as they may have and blame their lack of success on corruption when in reality, corruption has had nothing to do with their inability to accomplish much to write home about. True, corruption has and continues to be in the way of progress in our country but there are individuals who are simply agog about being anti-corruption crusaders for no reason other than the fact they have concluded this is their last gasp hope at being noted for something but in reality they are no different and would act no differently than those against whom they rant and rail, if God forbid they are given the same positions held by those individuals. In fact, the speed with which the likes of these individuals rush to line up their pockets upon getting the opportunity is directly proportional to the level of their prior accomplishments and poverty, or lack thereof, with the most accomplished and relatively well-off taking their time while the least of them gabble down the food as though they have never seen food before and in some cases, they have not. Truth No. 3: The least vocal or those totally silent about corruption will actually be the only ones who in the end will determine whether corruption is at least minimized in Kenya and if so, to what extent. Among these, I include people like my late Mzee who never once bribed even the corrupt police with their illegal tax collection road-blocks on the road from Kisii Town to Nyamache,where he run a fairly successful business. I witnessed this with my own eyes as a little boy when Mzee will take me along with him to ferry his weekly or bi-weekly supplies for his Hardware and General Store. Initially, the police would stop him, come up with all sorts of fake reasons his otherwise properly decaled and maintained red Dutsun (and later Nissan—he traded these every 3 years with same color and model)—anyway, the police would essentially detain Mzee for so long in the hopes of wearing him down but he would just sit there, saying nothing until they let him go and in time, he created a reputation such that these corrupt police would not even as bother stopping him when they saw him approaching. I am sure we have people like this, namely, those who would not perpetuate the problem of corruption by refusing to bribe and we need more, starting from ourselves. Truth No. 4: We need more of those people who refuse to perpetuate corruption by refusing to bribe than those tiring our ears and eyes every day ranting and railing about how evil corruption is—something we all know and agree or that so and so is corrupt when that’s not, in fact, the case or if it is, it is a known fact no amount of screaming such is going to make a difference unless the rule of law is respected and followed as it is hoped to be the case in the new political dispensation and judicial reforms. Truth No. 5: Corruption is not our No.1 enemy; hate and tribalism is our No.1 enemy. I soon will elaborate on this line of thought but let me say here and for now as I have been saying from before and that is, what ails our country the most is hate and tribalism, which are closely related. You can eliminate all the corruption in the country but as long as Kenyans continue to hate and engage in tribalism to the extent one sees in these fora and on the ground, we shall to that extent remain backward and underdeveloped. Fallacy No. 1: You can fight and succeed in ending corruption. This is just not true and neither is it possible. Corruption is a vice deeply rooted in our history as an African people and ingratiated in our minds by the colonists who introduced it to us, even as they went on to perfect theirs to the extent it is admirable and covetous to have it akin to us riding in a packed Matatu and hoping to ride in their spacious limousine. In other words, corruption is a way of life, the question being do you wish to have the Matatu version or the limousine version. Try as you wish, you are not going to completely do away with either and certainly not both. Common sense and prudence would dictate that we focus more on transforming the rules of corruption from stacking all Kenyans into an overloaded Matatu destined only in the direction of a cliff over which they shall all definitely plunge and perish unless the Matatu is unloaded, put into a thorough inspection to make sure it’s roadworthy before allowing it to proceed on the road to somewhere but only with the right number of passengers and if we can get to the point all passengers can ride in the Limo, that’s just a privilege few, if any, get to enjoy, anyway. Fallacy No.2: Only a few are the anointed ones to speak or lead in the fight against corruption. This is no longer the case. While it’s true leaders and reformers like Raila have been in the forefront in fighting against corruption and other vices, we now have the institutional foundational framework envisioned and aided in being put in place by these leaders all of us must now play our respective roles in making sure all reforms are, in fact, carried out to minimize or at least bring corruption under control. It, of course, goes without saying you cannot put in charge those who are against reforms or are otherwise not gang ho on trying to end or at least minimize these vices. That would be dumb but is in no way deterring those who believe otherwise. Only the voters will soundly tell them a resounding No come 2012. Fallacy No. 3: Our new constitution calls for purity. To hear some of these vocal and self-appointed champions of anti-corruption speak, you’ll think our new Constitution demands that only angles and puritans are allowed to vie and be elected to state office or otherwise hold the same. This is simply patently false, besides being a fallacy. Chapter Six does a weighting of cleanliness and puritanism with respect to leadership and integrity and sets a minimum threshold of cleanliness and puritanism acceptable for holding of a public or state office and nothing more otherwise all state offices will be vacant. Put another way, the drafters knew and understood nobody is perfect therefore it’ll be futile and counterintuitive to put in place a rigid system that allowed only for angles and puritans to hold state office but decided a certain minimum of standards was essential in at least ensuring those who hold public or state office have the minimum integrity worth the honor and privilege to so hold the office while denying those proven of having engaged in corruption the opportunity to continue practicing their vice at the public's expense. Fallacy No. 4: Corruption is purely a function of economic deprivation and therefore a survival instinct. Although there is some truth in this belief, this is largely a false notion and misconception. True, most people, including our police and civil servants resort to corruption to supplement their meager salaries or wages but that does not explain why the most affluent and wealthy engage in the same vice, if not more fiercely. What explains, in my view, and this is really the truth, is GREED. Were greed to be a non-factor, you’ll have ordinary corruption which would otherwise not have any noticeable adverse effect on the public interest, including on our economy or in institutional delivery of services. Conversely, we are permanently held down to the ground with a big foot on our collective necks belonging to the most greedy who have compulsively robbed us of our nation’s wealth and prosperity for years and decades. The sooner we push back and extract ourselves free from these big feet and stand on our own feet, the better. Fallacy No. 5: Only those outside the current leadership can help our country free ourselves from the rampant corruption in our country. This is patently false besides being a fallacy. See Truth No. 1.
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 23, 2012 5:50:34 GMT 3
Friend Omwenga: Yes, to come, .. in your blog, etc. The issue requires some very Artful Dodging, so I see where you are coming from, as you say over there in America. I had it mind to write something today about this Maina-Njenga thing, but a bottle of wine got in the way. I've put it on my to-do list for just after the start of the new year. Maina Njenga aside, how many other alleged crooks are enjoying the warmth of CORD ... as long as they stay on CORD? Friend Otishotish, I am not "artfully dodging" the Maina Njenga issue at all; in fact, I am very much looking forward to doing the piece about him and will share then what my thoughts are. When you ask, You are engaging in a type of discourse I don't normally associate with you as it's the province of some people who shall remain nameless for lobbing unfounded, indiscriminate and sweeping charges that are only intended to smear or cast in bad light without proof. Anyone can do that but not you who I take to be very circumspect in what you say. Friend & Compatriot: You've written quite a bit there. Let's do one at a time. How about we start with the Maina-Njenga bit and then get to the other stuff later. And, please, here and now---not on your blog, in the 22nd century. ;D
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Post by Omwenga on Dec 23, 2012 6:01:20 GMT 3
Friend Otishotish, I am not "artfully dodging" the Maina Njenga issue at all; in fact, I am very much looking forward to doing the piece about him and will share then what my thoughts are. When you ask, You are engaging in a type of discourse I don't normally associate with you as it's the province of some people who shall remain nameless for lobbing unfounded, indiscriminate and sweeping charges that are only intended to smear or cast in bad light without proof. Anyone can do that but not you who I take to be very circumspect in what you say. Friend & Compatriot: You've written quite a bit there. Let's do one at a time. How about we start with the Maina-Njenga bit and then get to the other stuff later. And, please, here and now---not on your blog, in the 22nd century. ;D Okay Friend & Compatriot, The Maina Njenga piece can't be done "here and now" as you demand but is coming soon, not later as noted earlier ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 6:04:14 GMT 3
As always, the best time to kick a man is when he's down. After all, he's hardly in a position to mount a robust response. ODM and its supporters were very happy with Mudumbadi, for more than 5 years. And then he left, at which point, all of a sudden!, lo and behold!, ... etc., he became a very corrupt fellow who was involved in the dirty "Nairobi cemetery scandal". Eat with us, and we'll stay quiet. Run off, and ... Anyways ... I think you've done a good job of sticking it to the fellow; it's like Miguna Miguna at "chilled" sub-zero temperatures. Excellent stuff. No, don't get me wrong; I'm not crying for the fellow, who, after all, went out asking for it. But still! ... isn't the body still warm? So, then, how about Maina Njenga? Another good man until he bolts out? ;D ;D Mudavadi was Moi project, how some people try to spin propaganda and erase history is mind boggling, I guess it might just be ignorance.. or laziness to search for facts about Mudavadi's long political liife history.. GoldenBerg scandal? where was ODM in that? or you are the type you likes cover ups Keep crying for Mudavadi, Miguna crocodile tears, and now we are staying tuned to watch you try to connect " Statehouse Mungiki 2007-2008 meeting with Raila by the way of connecting Maina Njenga to him ;D ;D even the late Karume would have told you, that you quest to rope in Raila is waste of time.. Maina Njenga = Extra-judicial killings deal with the top guys.. it seems that you were in the Loop of what really went down.. Kenyans look forward to seeing yoi post facts on here.. we are tuned in.. holding our breath!!
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 6:08:30 GMT 3
Friend Omwenga: Yes, to come, .. in your blog, etc. The issue requires some very Artful Dodging, so I see where you are coming from, as you say over there in America. I had it mind to write something today about this Maina-Njenga thing, but a bottle of wine got in the way. I've put it on my to-do list for just after the start of the new year. Maina Njenga aside, how many other alleged crooks are enjoying the warmth of CORD ... as long as they stay on CORD? How about we start with Peter Kenneth your chosen Candidate. for presidential Ticket?. and the Kenya-Re corrupt deals while he was MD? can you clues us in or you can't remember the cases? You can come on here chest thumping accusing CORD on corrupt members and yet you can't even mention yours truly Peter Kenneth acquired wealth? from Rags to riches? utter nonsense.. !!
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 6:18:34 GMT 3
Friend & Compatriot: You've written quite a bit there. Let's do one at a time. How about we start with the Maina-Njenga bit and then get to the other stuff later. And, please, here and now---not on your blog, in the 22nd century. ;D Okay Friend & Compatriot, The Maina Njenga piece can't be done "here and now" as you demand but is coming soon, not later as noted earlier ;D Omwenga? I don't understand why Maina Njenga is an Issue? the Late Karume said it very clearly " The government should stop killing the mungiki members? after they used them to do their dirty work.. 2. otishotish is trying very hard to connect Raila to Maina Njenga? ( when there is a clear interview Maina Njenga gave while he was in Jail posted online and I bet the ICC has it too.. on which government officials visited him while he was in Prison from PNU and ODM coalition and the reasons why they visited him at the Height of Extra-judicial Killings of the Munigki members ( 2007-2008) I think otishotish should come out clearly to state what exactly he thinks is the connection between Raila & Maina Njenga.. ama? it is very Odd for someone to take up a task of trying to tarnish someone name with propaganda & innuendo's
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Post by kamalet on Dec 23, 2012 11:35:14 GMT 3
Friend Omwenga: Yes, to come, .. in your blog, etc. The issue requires some very Artful Dodging, so I see where you are coming from, as you say over there in America. I had it mind to write something today about this Maina-Njenga thing, but a bottle of wine got in the way. I've put it on my to-do list for just after the start of the new year. Maina Njenga aside, how many other alleged crooks are enjoying the warmth of CORD ... as long as they stay on CORD? How about we start with Peter Kenneth your chosen Candidate. for presidential Ticket?. and the Kenya-Re corrupt deals while he was MD? can you clues us in or you can't remember the cases? You can come on here chest thumping accusing CORD on corrupt members and yet you can't even mention yours truly Peter Kenneth acquired wealth? from Rags to riches? utter nonsense.. !! Can you quote what PK was accused of stealing or the corrupt deals you allude to when he was MD of Kenya Re? It is wrong to soil people's names when you cannot quote one fact to support your allegations. PK is not a rags to riches....he never wore the rags but he did become rich. this is coming from one who has known PK as a teenager so do back up your allegations or just STFU.
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 12:06:47 GMT 3
How about we start with Peter Kenneth your chosen Candidate. for presidential Ticket?. and the Kenya-Re corrupt deals while he was MD? can you clues us in or you can't remember the cases? You can come on here chest thumping accusing CORD on corrupt members and yet you can't even mention yours truly Peter Kenneth acquired wealth? from Rags to riches? utter nonsense.. !! Can you quote what PK was accused of stealing or the corrupt deals you allude to when he was MD of Kenya Re? It is wrong to soil people's names when you cannot quote one fact to support your allegations. PK is not a rags to riches....he never wore the rags but he did become rich. this is coming from one who has known PK as a teenager so do back up your allegations or just STFU. Stop Being lazy asking others to find information for you! can either check with past Jukwaa post by typing in the search engine "Peter Kenneth "Kenya Re"I and other members have posted facts from government public information or you can google it .. by they way it is public information.. stop huffing & Puffing here nonsensically when the facts are out there in regards to Kenya-Re case with Peter Kenneth's involvement.. and why don't you posts some facts here about Kenneth's rags to riches story? Late Njenga Karume was not embarrassed to state publicly his rags to riches story!! guys like you are big in supporting continuous corruption & impunity.. no surprise coming from the likes of you!! bure Kabisa.. try getting facts than your usual propaganda.. it has become too lame.. I might add!!
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Post by kamalet on Dec 23, 2012 13:10:20 GMT 3
Can you quote what PK was accused of stealing or the corrupt deals you allude to when he was MD of Kenya Re? It is wrong to soil people's names when you cannot quote one fact to support your allegations. PK is not a rags to riches....he never wore the rags but he did become rich. this is coming from one who has known PK as a teenager so do back up your allegations or just STFU. Stop Being lazy asking others to find information for you! can either check with past Jukwaa post by typing in the search engine "Peter Kenneth "Kenya Re"I and other members have posted facts from government public information or you can google it .. by they way it is public information.. stop huffing & Puffing here nonsensically when the facts are out there in regards to Kenya-Re case with Peter Kenneth's involvement.. and why don't you posts some facts here about Kenneth's rags to riches story? Late Njenga Karume was not embarrassed to state publicly his rags to riches story!! guys like you are big in supporting continuous corruption & impunity.. no surprise coming from the likes of you!! bure Kabisa.. try getting facts than your usual propaganda.. it has become too lame.. I might add!! You are such a troll! Of course everything about it is you posting the same allegation as you would do like astute record. Why should you ask me to post whilst you cannot even back your allegations? But then your tiresome self will not respond in any manner that shows that you are capable of ever making sense which is why I previously suggested bag sitting and counting your toes may be a better pastime for you. This forum is perhaps way above your pay grade.
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 21:53:37 GMT 3
Stop Being lazy asking others to find information for you! can either check with past Jukwaa post by typing in the search engine "Peter Kenneth "Kenya Re"I and other members have posted facts from government public information or you can google it .. by they way it is public information.. stop huffing & Puffing here nonsensically when the facts are out there in regards to Kenya-Re case with Peter Kenneth's involvement.. and why don't you posts some facts here about Kenneth's rags to riches story? Late Njenga Karume was not embarrassed to state publicly his rags to riches story!! guys like you are big in supporting continuous corruption & impunity.. no surprise coming from the likes of you!! bure Kabisa.. try getting facts than your usual propaganda.. it has become too lame.. I might add!! You are such a troll! Of course everything about it is you posting the same allegation as you would do like astute record. Why should you ask me to post whilst you cannot even back your allegations? But then your tiresome self will not respond in any manner that shows that you are capable of ever making sense which is why I previously suggested bag sitting and counting your toes may be a better pastime for you. This forum is perhaps way above your pay grade. When you run out of Propaganda you revert to insults, stop being lazy and search for facts before you embarrass yourself on here.. Maybe you should start with yours truly you presidential candidate, I guess you believe Uhuru acquired his wealth legitimately just like Kenneth.. vast land as large as the whole Nyanza province !! give us a break down on how the Kenyatta family wealth was acquired. instead huffing and puffing on here!! use your toes to count the pieces of land he owns...;D
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 21:55:20 GMT 3
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 23, 2012 21:58:23 GMT 3
Mr Mudavadi asked the TNA leader to stop blaming communities that support him for the mistakes he had committed and instead, shoulder the blame himself. Addressing a rally at Nabongo grounds in Mumias town, the deputy PM said Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto were playing games with voters for “selfish gains.” the United Democratic Forum party leader told a crowd that braved heavy showers at the grounds to listen to him. However, Mr Mudavadi insisted that the fall out in Jubilee alliance had not dampened his spirit adding that he was ready to soldier on. Pledged to soldier on with his campaigns to become the country’s fourth president, the Sabatia MP told voters to shun leaders who cannot keep their word. He said his government will streamline the education sector by introducing free secondary and early childhood education to give children equal opportunities to learn. “We shall also abolish KCPE examinations and introduce continuous assessment tests to gauge the ability of learners,” he said. The DPM was accompanied by five MPs from the region. Ikolomani MP Bonni Khalwale, revisited the Kazi Kwa Vijana scandal demanding that Prime Minister Raila Odinga shed light on how Sh15 billion earmarked for the project was spent. “Kenyans must be told the truth about how money meant to empower the youth disappeared,” said Dr Khalwale. The Ikolomani me predicted a two horse race pitting Mr Raila and Mudavadi arguing that the rest would not feature. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mudavadi-Uhuru-Ruto-playing-games-for-selfish-gains/-/1064/1650598/-/11sbqnxz/-/index.html
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Post by subsaharanite on Dec 24, 2012 0:31:08 GMT 3
Don't write him off still. Rumor has is that MM will troupe back to Jubilee alliance on the eve of the elections in order to checkmate CORD.
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Post by Omwenga on Dec 24, 2012 0:45:00 GMT 3
Don't write him off still. Rumor has is that MM will troupe back to Jubilee alliance on the eve of the elections in order to checkmate CORD. Subsaharanite, I just posted this on another thread but I post here as well in response to what you have said: I can see people are timid venturing any speculation as to what is next in this ongoing drama between Mudavadi and Jubilee but I put forth one scenario that must be Kibaki A Mudavadi's Plan B now that Plan A is out of the window and that is, counting on (1) Round Two happening and (2) joining the drum-beat one facing serious ICC crimes against humanity cannot be and must not be elected president finally paving the way for their one and only man, Mudavadi, of course, as UK substitute to face Raila, who in turn will trounce Mudavadi in Round 2. Meanwhile, UK and Ruto are putting all their eggs in one basket: Victory in Round 1 or short of that not happening, i.e., being defeated, they'll come crawling underneath the feet of one Raila Amolo Odinga, the most certain winner of Round 1, in that scenario. On the other hand, and I have just stated it, Raila and CORD are confident in winning in Round 1--much as yours truly has been predicting from the very beginning--rendering all the noise by and about Jubilee, the devil, Mudavadi, etc mere whistles in the park that only catch passing attention of the few most idle there. For why we are this confident about Raila winning in Round 1, go to Raila Can Win In Round 1 blog at omwenga.com/2012/12/23/raila-can-....very-beginning/Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7685&page=3#ixzz2FuhP4600The point is, Raila and CORD are at the controls, the rest are merely scrambling for anything to cling to but one can clearly see a path for all of them leading to Raila's feet. The good thing for them is, Raila is not a vindictive man and forgiving as he has proven he is, one can bet on him listening to their pleas and perhaps obliging. There is nothing about Raila's character that would not support the proposition he will even be willing to work with any of them post-election for the sake of the nation's interests, including unity.
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 24, 2012 6:14:08 GMT 3
One of Aesop's fables is about a dog and its reflection. A dog, having got a bit of meat for dinner, is carrying it across a bridge. Hallfway over, he looks into the water and sees what he thinks is another dog with a bigger piece of meat. (It's actually its own reflection.) He drops what he's got, in order to go for the bigger piece. Conclusion: he ends up wet, cold, and hungry.
If Mudavadi ever had a real shot at being PORK, it's definitely gone now. Going just by the jokes I've received in email from friends, he'd keep Saturday Night Live going for a year. (Uhuru and his Devil form a close second.) Mudavadi is a born follower who peaked during his short stint as VP; now he has confirmed to Kenyans what they saw as the worst in him.
Next!
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Post by subsaharanite on Dec 25, 2012 1:35:07 GMT 3
Omwenga,
The point of argument is not whether MM will bring any value to whichever side of the political divide he decides to support, its the fact that he is more likely to go back to UHURUTO's faction rather than stick on own or join CORD.
As you can see, he is already started a legal process against UHURUTO group, an indication that he still considers himself its member. I guess he is preparing us for his unceremonious return.
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Post by reporter911 on Dec 25, 2012 2:31:22 GMT 3
Omwenga, The point of argument is not whether MM will bring any value to whichever side of the political divide he decides to support, its the fact that he is more likely to go back to UHURUTO's faction rather than stick on own or join CORD. As you can see, he is already started a legal process against UHURUTO group, an indication that he still considers himself its member. I guess he is preparing us for his unceremonious return. Rumour has it that Mudavadi is in negotiations with Peter Kenneth/Wamawla & Tuju coalition.. if you recall Wamalwa has stated clearly that he was going to support Mudavadi if he was chosen to be the Jubilee presidential flag bearer that means Wamalwa has already removed himself from the 2013 presidential race.. As for Peter Kenneth.. he has his backers and the same people want Mudavadi in the presidential race.. Kenneth/Wamalwa.Tuju coalition remained on the sideline ( The plan was to support Jubilee in the second round of elections) but now the calling for his party to accommodate Mudavadi has come sooner than they had planned..Maybe their "marriage" announcement will be made before the New year.. As for Mudavadi's legal process against Jubilee.. it is just a gimmick.. nothing to write home about.. he has no choice but to Join/back Jubilee coalition, through other parties like Kenneth/Wamalwa & Tuju's or KANU platform.. KANU seems to be also romancing Mudavadi at full Throttle, WE all Recall Mudavadi being MOI Project in 2002.. which Coalition will Mudavadi Pick? 1. KANU? -He already has a signed agreement with them 2. KENNETH/WAMALWA/ TUJU COALTION? - this is the coalition "The Devils" that Uhuru mentioned want Mudavadi to sign with.. Mudavadi has is cornered!! na mambo bado
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Post by Omwenga on Mar 24, 2013 5:16:00 GMT 3
I know this is beating on a dead horse but some dead horses deserve a beating. Just a few days ago, the very politically dead man who naively agreed on a deal with Uhuru pre-election only to have Uhuru shred the MOU to pieces the next day proved to the world how inept and politically naive he is by once again rushing to try and make yet another deal Uhuru will obviously never honor either because the obviously compromised IEBC's announcement that he won is thrown out and he doesn't make it in the ensuing elections or he does and in keeping with tradition from his political mentors, he promptly tosses the MOU with Mudavadi yet again. What the politically dead Mudavadi is doing is leaving even his close friends and aids shaking their heads. Here is a Standard right of reply piece in the Standard titled Mudavadi Shift To Jubilee Draws Supporter's Ire that about sums it up by its author, Ambassador Boaz Mbaya, the former head of the Mudavadi Secretariat; not in particular what he says at the end of the piece: I write in response to the article by Mr Juma Kwayera titled, Mudavadi shift to Jubilee draws supporters’ ire, which appeared in The Standard On Sunday of March 17. In the article, the writer refers to me as Head of Mudavadi’s campaign Secretariat and also quotes me as supporting his move to Jubilee. I would like to put the record straight with regard to these false claims. First, I left the Secretariat on January 16, by mutual agreement with Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi after which he appointed someone else to head it. Left Secretariat This needs to be corrected to remove any impression of impersonation to a position that is no longer relevant to me. Second, it is true Kwayera called me on Friday to ask about Mudavadi’s reported move to Jubilee. My answer to him was that, “It was his constitutional right to seek association with any person, or group of persons to advance his political career taking into account the interests of his supporters”. Freedom of association My response emphasised the principle of freedom of association enshrined in the Constitution. Should he consider that Jubilee provides him with that avenue; it is within his rights to proceed. That does not amount to my supporting or endorsing his intentions and actions. I would like to clarify and emphasise that Mr Mudavadi has not sought my opinion on the matter nor have I volunteered it. It is, therefore, erroneous to pretend to offer one. Furthermore, it would be out of character and untimely to provide such advice given the ongoing litigation regarding the recent election. Opinion right Lastly, Mudavadi's supporters reserve their right to give their opinion of their leader in whom they had invested their hopes, aspirations and their future, to assume the leadership of this country.By not consulting them on such an important political move exposes him as lacking the tenacity decide on how to pursue the quest for that national leadership role. (Emphasis mine). This a damning judgment from someone who only a as late as this past January was was a major advisor of Mudavadi and no doubt jumped sheep before the elections convinced the man was headed nowhere or over the cliff which is exactly where he finds himself. The irony of it is it's only Raila who can once again revive the dead political career of this man who seems not to learn anything from past experiences and is still naive enough to believe Uhuru can make a deal with him he can keep, never mind one William Ruto couldn't care less about such deal and will see to it it's smothered to death faster than Uhuru can smother it were the ICC inductees to be legally elected as president and deputy--an unlikely event in by itself but time will tell. Uchambuzi Tanaka, www.omwenga.com
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Post by b6k on Mar 24, 2013 6:48:06 GMT 3
This a damning judgment from someone who only a as late as this past January was was a major advisor of Mudavadi and no doubt jumped sheep before the elections convinced the man was headed nowhere or over the cliff which is exactly where he finds himself. The irony of it is it's only Raila who can once again revive the dead political career of this man who seems not to learn anything from past experiences and is still naive enough to believe Uhuru can make a deal with him he can keep, never mind one William Ruto couldn't care less about such deal and will see to it it's smothered to death faster than Uhuru can smother it were the ICC inductees to be legally elected as president and deputy--an unlikely event in by itself but time will tell. Jeepers! So your medicine for men who are jumping on sheep (sic!) is for them to jump into the sinking ship that is Raila ODM CORD? In your missive, ICC indictees have morphed into ICC inductees, I see. FYI the ICC indictees have become KE government number 4 inductees....English did come on a boat! Pole sana oyominto Omwenga but of late your blogs are sloppier than they used to be ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Omwenga on Mar 24, 2013 7:51:23 GMT 3
This a damning judgment from someone who only a as late as this past January was was a major advisor of Mudavadi and no doubt jumped sheep before the elections convinced the man was headed nowhere or over the cliff which is exactly where he finds himself. The irony of it is it's only Raila who can once again revive the dead political career of this man who seems not to learn anything from past experiences and is still naive enough to believe Uhuru can make a deal with him he can keep, never mind one William Ruto couldn't care less about such deal and will see to it it's smothered to death faster than Uhuru can smother it were the ICC inductees to be legally elected as president and deputy--an unlikely event in by itself but time will tell. Jeepers! So your medicine for men who are jumping on sheep (sic!) is for them to jump into the sinking ship that is Raila ODM CORD? In your missive, ICC indictees have morphed into ICC inductees, I see. FYI the ICC indictees have become KE government number 4 inductees....English did come on a boat! Pole sana oyominto Omwenga but of late your blogs are sloppier than they used to be ;D ;D ;D ;D b6k,A few things: First, I have given you an unsolicited pass out of my kindness in connection with what I told you in another post with the believe that's a road you'll not go again with respect to yours truly. Second, I did not say "jumping on sheep" therefore your use of "sic" in efforts to point out the typo in the word as originally used is grammatically wrong. Third, my use of "sheep" instead of "ship" is simply a typo I could easily catch but I never edit any of posts so you get what you get but it's amazing how error free they are nonetheless, isn't it? Fourth, Raila will be our next PORK and the reason I say he may ironically be the only one who could revive this politically dead man. Fifth, the consistency in quality of my blogs never changes which is reflected in exponentially increased readership of the blogs judging by the daily hits on the main blog and this for a blog that's not marketed in any way other than people stumbling into it usually by name searching yours truly.
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