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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 10:48:24 GMT 3
afrigun can you do as a favour of posting here some of the Uhuru"TNT" aspirants credential and lets compare with Okanja's? Wapi qualifications!! 1. Waititu -Governor Nairobi 2. Sonko- Senator Nairobi 3. Mary Wambui- MP Othaya? Lets not keep flapping gums with nonsense about aspirants.. post facts - "TNA" even ignored the New Constitution requirements for aspirants.. the only electorate that will kowtow and rubbber stamp aspirants is Uhuru's "TNA" which many rejected aspirants have filed complains regarding lack of criteria, and proper qualifications when it comes to Uhuru's rigged in friends.. I bet you after Nguyai and Kimunya lost the primary elections, they will be handed automatic certificates for positions of Members of parliament.. no need to hold our breath!! ;D Reporter; Respectfully, theres a thread (indeed several threads) where TNA, Uhuru, Jubilee etc are discussed. This one is dedicated to the Oburu "incident". afrigun are you kidding me? no thread is dedicated to any individual, Oloo made a denouncement and any jukwaa member can join in the debate on points they feel relevant according to the latests topic posted...such as your last one!!!!!!this thread is not only about Oburu or Raila, if you want school room politics go try somewhere else .. My question to you was very relevant to to the topic you posted!, if you try heckling an ODM aspirant selected for his excellent credentials then you damn well better post Uhuru"TNA" aspirants for a comparison instead of replying childishly.. alah!!
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Post by afrigun on Jan 22, 2013 11:13:12 GMT 3
OK Reporter,
I grant that, on paper at least, Okanja does appaer to have relevant qualifications. My question is, why him? and dont you think that by selecting an also run who finished way, way, waaaaaay behind the other protagonists, meaning that the said Okanja had been comprehnsively rejected by the electorate, ODM is thumbing its nose at its party faithfull and taking them for granted?
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Post by afrigun on Jan 22, 2013 11:22:11 GMT 3
And if the rationale was to cool down the temperatures by avoiding nominating the two protagonists, wouldnt it be better to look outside the field of constetants, and pick, say, Oduor Otieno (just a name of the top of my head and without prejudice), or other Siaya County products who have distinguished themselves in management? i.e a non political technocrat proven in business managemnt.
This would have sent a different message to the electorate and the country at large.
As it stands, the ODM heirachy have esseintially and unfortunately endorsed Oburus actions (note that he was prominent at the announcement, and the conspicuos absence of Oduol), and I do not see the the decision being accepted as meekly as expected.
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Post by afrigun on Jan 22, 2013 11:36:12 GMT 3
Oburu Odinga and Ruth Odinga step down
Addressing the media last night as he stepped out from the Siaya governor’s race, Dr. Oburu Oginga recounted last night how he had won his Bondo Parliamentary seat four times in a row. Seated next to ODM National Election Board chairman Franklin Bett, he said “none of those times was I related to a powerful government figure, nor was there any violence in those elections. Now all these accusations are flying around that Raila the Prime Minister rigged me in, and I used violence. Raila’s opponents within government organised the disruption and violence to undermine his standing, and mine. It seems it was a crime to be born Raila’s older brother now.” He was not challenging the ODM decision.
A few earlier, his sister Ruth Adhiambo Odinga had spoken to the media in a very moving statement, delivered in the most heart-felt and simple way, with tears brimming in her eyes. She said she had received no help whatsoever from her brother Raila in the campaign, and was stepping down from the Kisumu Governor’s race for the sake of peace in the country and Kisumu.
Yesterday the Odinga family was once again once showing how willing it is to keep the country’s interests centre-stage in their political struggle for change, a trait that dates to Jaramogi’s campaign to put Jomo Kenyatta first. A big chunk of the credit for Oburu’s and Ruth’s decisions of course goes to Raila, for whom this was an intensely personal and familial challenge. It’s not for the first time he’s made or influenced decisions like this.
In 2002 with Kibaki Tosha, Raila unified the country against dictatorship and energized the democratic movement’s first sweep to power after 40 years of struggle. He similarly unified Kenyans in 2005 (the first constitutional referendum), in 2008 by giving up his claim to the Presidency and accepted the junior role in the Coalition, and then of course in 2010, as the true author of our new constitution.
Such sacrifice and attributes – including the capacity to balance personal ambition and national interest - are the stuff of which great leaders are made. Amen!! and let those hired aspirants and thugs look for other victims.. wameKwisha..Wapi ODOUL? why is he silent now??? bure Kabisa.. they tried but they were defeated by those who love the country dearly.. Raila this Raila that.. wacha tu "CORD" Tsunami will clean all those are throwing logs and daggers in its path.. nobody should get away with hiring thugs to harm citizens of saiya then turn round and blame it on Raila & his family.. Haven't we all seen these same tactic's before? mmm!! Watashindwa ! Phil; Thats pure spin. But isnt it funny that while the post strenuoulsy tries to dissacoiate Raila from his siblings, it closes by tying them and the entire family tightly together? Reporter; So you think Oduol has silently stepped off the satge and that is the end of the matter? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by kamalet on Jan 22, 2013 12:25:45 GMT 3
If Oburu was willing to 'step down' and Oduol did not, why not give the seat to the one who deserved it? Or was it a case of if "I do no thave it, then he cannot have it"??
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Post by afrigun on Jan 22, 2013 12:54:14 GMT 3
If Oburu was willing to 'step down' and Oduol did not, why not give the seat to the one who deserved it? Or was it a case of if "I do no thave it, then he cannot have it"?? more like" he does no have it so he shouldnt have it and our ..... should instead"
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Post by bkichwa on Jan 22, 2013 13:07:02 GMT 3
Gado's take on the subject.
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Post by patriotism101 on Jan 22, 2013 17:12:28 GMT 3
Reporter 911 I'm really tired reading your tribal nonsense. Just articulate a point without using Kikuyu's and Luo nonsense.
Hoping you get suspended or warned by the administrator. The Elections are less than 50 days away, and we keep reading you tribalist arguments. Just because you are in some cozy western country.
Jobless - Sometimes I wonder what this R911 has on the the admin or the type of relationship they have. I can assure you that if R911 was a TNT mouthpiece or sympathizer - the door could have been shut on them long time ago. There must be some value admin see's in the chaff you are not seeing. Senti 5
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 22, 2013 18:10:43 GMT 3
ODM's decision is SICKENING to say the very least.
Apart from disqualifying Oduol who garnered almost 100,000 votes, the party decides in its unwisdom to give the certificate to the puny minnow who came LAST.
But that was not all.
1. Jakoyo Midiwo was handed the Gem certificate despite being thrashed by Elisha.
2. In Alego Usonga, ODM switched the name of George WM Omondi, who had romped home with 19,189 votes with that of the incumbent Edwin Yinda who scored a paltry 8,419 in his third place finish.
My sources within ODM told me that this was at the instigation of Dr. Oburu Oginga who gave ODM three ultimata- block Oduol; rig in Jakoyo and Yinda- as preconditions for accepting that he had indeed been floored in the Siaya Governor race.
And this is just scratching the surface.
I spent many hours at IEBC today commiserating with disappointed aspirants from Awendo, Central Alego, Makongeni and elsewhere who were startled with same criminal manipulation from the ODM top brass.
Many of them have rushed to court. Some of them are organizing various forms of mass action.
Meanwhile on Jukwaa, the same voices which screamed themselves hoarse and mute when Kibaki unleashed his 2007 civilian coup are smugly patting the electoral thieves at Orange House in January 2013.
This double face hypocrisy is enough to make one log out and PUKE in DISGUST.
In fact, let me do just that.
Back in a few hours with a full fledged digital essay on the subject.
Onyango Oloo Nairobi
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 22, 2013 18:24:08 GMT 3
ODM's decision is SICKENING to say the very least.Apart from disqualifying Oduol who garnered almost 100,000 votes, the party decides in its unwisdom to give the certificate to the puny minnow who came LAST. But that was not all. 1. Jakoyo Midiwo was handed the Gem certificate despite being thrashed by Elisha.
2. In Alego Usonga, ODM switched the name of George WM Omondi, who had romped home with 19,189 votes with that of the incumbent Edwin Yinda who scored a paltry 8,419 in his third place finish.My sources within ODM told me that this was at the instigation of Dr. Oburu Oginga who gave ODM three ultimata- block Oduol; rig in Jakoyo and Yinda- as preconditions for accepting that he had indeed been floored in the Siaya Governor race.And this is just scratching the surface. I spent many hours at IEBC today commiserating with disappointed aspirants from Awendo, Central Alego, Makongeni and elsewhere who were startled with same criminal manipulation from the ODM top brass. Many of them have rushed to court. Some of them are organizing various forms of mass action. Meanwhile on Jukwaa, the same voices which screamed themselves hoarse and mute when Kibaki unleashed his 2007 civilian coup are smugly patting the electoral thieves at Orange House in January 2013.
This double face hypocrisy is enough to make one log out and PUKE in DISGUST.In fact, let me do just that. Back in a few hours with a full fledged digital essay on the subject. Onyango Oloo Nairobi Interesting stuff. Expect it to be denounced as propaganda aimed at pouring black ink on Safi Kama Pamba. Anyway .... I feel for you folks as you come face-to-face with reform and democracy. Better luck in 2018!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 18:30:29 GMT 3
If Oburu was willing to 'step down' and Oduol did not, why not give the seat to the one who deserved it? Or was it a case of if "I do no thave it, then he cannot have it"?? . more like" he does no have it so he shouldnt have it and our .....should instead" I agree afrigun. ODM's reaction backed up oburu with the notion that if it wasn't going to be him then oduol was going to be punished. punished just for winning. how dare he beat my highness fair and square? that's just pathetic on ODM's part.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 18:30:59 GMT 3
ODM's decision is SICKENING to say the very least.Apart from disqualifying Oduol who garnered almost 100,000 votes, the party decides in its unwisdom to give the certificate to the puny minnow who came LAST. But that was not all. 1. Jakoyo Midiwo was handed the Gem certificate despite being thrashed by Elisha.
2. In Alego Usonga, ODM switched the name of George WM Omondi, who had romped home with 19,189 votes with that of the incumbent Edwin Yinda who scored a paltry 8,419 in his third place finish.My sources within ODM told me that this was at the instigation of Dr. Oburu Oginga who gave ODM three ultimata- block Oduol; rig in Jakoyo and Yinda- as preconditions for accepting that he had indeed been floored in the Siaya Governor race.And this is just scratching the surface. I spent many hours at IEBC today commiserating with disappointed aspirants from Awendo, Central Alego, Makongeni and elsewhere who were startled with same criminal manipulation from the ODM top brass. Many of them have rushed to court. Some of them are organizing various forms of mass action. Meanwhile on Jukwaa, the same voices which screamed themselves hoarse and mute when Kibaki unleashed his 2007 civilian coup are smugly patting the electoral thieves at Orange House in January 2013.
This double face hypocrisy is enough to make one log out and PUKE in DISGUST.In fact, let me do just that. Back in a few hours with a full fledged digital essay on the subject. Onyango Oloo Nairobi ?? why the double standards? I haven't heard you castigating "TNA" or URP on all the double faced hypocrisy in their respective parties, and the last time I checked you are not an ODM supporter, I believe you do have your own party that you support.. I'm just surprised that you are 100% involved in ODM in-house party matters ? why is is that? If you are neither in ODM or Uhuruto party member or supporter, I would imagine you would analyze or debate about all other parties and what took place in all their primaries without being biased. Reports from other parties show that they all had exact problems like in Siaya? I'm very curious why the attacks on only ODM? I would Have understood your if you were a disgruntled ODM supporter which you are not! very ODD and astonishing.. As an ODM supporter I'm proud of the ODM party decision to deny both Oduol & Oburu the governorship seat after what transpired and I do believe that the candidate they selected with direct nomination is very qualified to be a Governor of Siaya.. ivyu too..
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 18:31:53 GMT 3
ODM/CORD Tsunami is happening and it will continue until March 4th 2013 with landslide, this synchronized attack on ODM reminds me of Miguna attacks on Raila and the onslaught here on Jukwaa.. what a pity.. but it will not deter ODM/CORD winning March 4th Elections with a landslide.. Na mambo bado.. People can shout and scream all they want ati ODM!!ODM!! last I checked Miguna & his supporters on here were Busy screaming Raila this Raila that ;D ;D ;D where is Miguna now?
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 18:45:39 GMT 3
If Oburu was willing to 'step down' and Oduol did not, why not give the seat to the one who deserved it? Or was it a case of if "I do no thave it, then he cannot have it"?? more like" he does no have it so he shouldnt have it and our ..... should instead" No Uhuru"TNA" Mole will stand in ODM? maybe you should advise ODOUL to seek a free "TNA"ticket in Kiambu!! "TNA" i busy issuing direct nomination certificates as we speak, he better hurry..
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Post by joblesscorner on Jan 22, 2013 19:18:42 GMT 3
Both parties are giving direction Nomination, ODM in Siaya, and now in Nairobi Bishop Margaret Wanjiru. In TNA you have kimunya and a lady in Mombasa I forgot her name.
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Post by joblesscorner on Jan 22, 2013 22:27:05 GMT 3
As for living in a foreign country? is it your mother or father who took me there? ADMINISTRATOR ACTIONS NEEDED!!!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 22:40:44 GMT 3
As for living in a foreign country? is it your mother or father who took me there? Administrator,Actions Need. Yes Keep out of my personal business, where I reside is none of your business so I don't see why you think you can refer to it on your Jukwaa threads!.. this is a political blog.. so keep to that! Add to your disrespect to my blog handle namePhil and Robot 911Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=joblesscorner#ixzz2IjeuTh60just becuase I decided to ignore it didn't mean I didn't notice your disrespect!!and such insults...it seems to me you can dish them insults out but you can't take it when the same is handed to you.. instead you run to the Adminstrator crying wolf wolf.. bure kabisa
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Post by joblesscorner on Jan 22, 2013 22:46:48 GMT 3
Reporter,You days are numbered, on Jukwaa, am campaigning to get petition for you to be ousted until after elections. let's see whose GAME is on. REPORTER911 SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE Administrator,Actions Need. Yes Keep out of my personal business, where I reside is none of your business so I don't see why you think you can refer to it on your Jukwaa threads!.. this is a political blog.. so keep to that!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 22, 2013 23:00:11 GMT 3
Reporter,You days are numbered, on Jukwaa, am campaigning to get petition for you to be ousted until after elections. let's see whose GAME is on. REPORTER911 SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICEYes Keep out of my personal business, where I reside is none of your business so I don't see why you think you can refer to it on your Jukwaa threads!.. this is a political blog.. so keep to that! joblesscorner You seem to be very sure of making sure the administrators boot me out of jukwaa? I wonder what hidden power you have over the Administrators? do clue us in? I'm shivering!! Joblesscornor application request for Mashada Blog.. that is where you belong.. you are Hilarious? you think you are in grade 5? ati running to the administrator to get me Kicked out? crying wolf wolf!!! ;D ;D so who will support your petition? Opps let me guess all Uhuru"TNT/Jubilee supporter and some hang-on's.. I must be scaring the whole lot of you with the facts I post on Jukwaa daily ;D ;D ;D
Keep your insults, and abuses coming.. I'm right here on Jukwaa championing "CORD" Tsunami and it will soon swipe all your counties.. wait.. no need for central province.. the Landslide will be the rest of Kenya
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Post by phil on Jan 23, 2013 10:25:18 GMT 3
ODM's decision is SICKENING to say the very least.Apart from disqualifying Oduol who garnered almost 100,000 votes, the party decides in its unwisdom to give the certificate to the puny minnow who came LAST. Bw OlooI am wondering what the deep interest an official of a party that is supposed to be competing with ODM has in the affairs of ODM. Perhaps you can shed some light on that! It's just hypocritical for Oloo to prejudge ODM on a nominee list that has yet to be officially made public, and on results that are yet to be independently audited. If I asked you Bw Oloo, can you publish the authentic results for ODM Siaya gubernatorial race, will you give us the same trash we have seen splashed in newspapers over the last one week by the like of Larry Madowo - a closeted campaigner of his cousing brother Dr. William Oduol? I mean, do you even know the reasons why results were nullified in Siaya County and Gem? It's better to ask rather than try to second guess the NEB. Better still, give it a few days and the truth will come out! Again here, you are being disingenious peddling rumours and passing them off as fact. As an official of what I call briefcase political party known as SDP, I'd expect you to at least know people do not win nominations on the basis of votes only. If you were privy to ODM nomination criteria, you would know that the party is demanding for a lot more from aspirants than just their individual popularity. We not only have a new constitution that ODM is compliant to, the party also conducts due deligence on all its candidates prior to issue of nomination certficate. You thus need to understand that the NEB reaches its decisions based on a wide range of factors and not just votes. Mind you, candidates still have the option of appealing to IEBC if they feel the party decision is unjust. We must ask ourselves why disatisfied aspirants that Oloo points to above have not exercised this right if they are confident of their candidature as ODM aspirants, and if they have, why has the IEBC not overruled ODM NEB? Which sources? Dare to name them? The only authority publicly known in matters of nomination is the ODM National Election Board Chairman. All the rest as busy bodies and pretenders to the throne. Unless you can table substantive evidence, we shall treat this as rumour mongering, very unfortunate coming from a man of your standing. Great! SO let's wait and see if IEBC will overrule ODM NEB. These unamed aspirants could be a figment of someone's imaginations. But then again, they could be many of the candidates that were unmasked as TNA moles within ODM, sponsored by the richest party to come and cause havoc from within. We shall very soon expose these characters. [/b] This double face hypocrisy is enough to make one log out and PUKE in DISGUST.In fact, let me do just that. Back in a few hours with a full fledged digital essay on the subject. Onyango Oloo Nairobi[/quote] The ODM is an independent political party in Kenya that does not compel members to join it. It has its rules and regulations and party organs. The NEB is one such organ. It would be a little unwise for ODM to listen to the consel of an official of a competing party, one that has refused or is incapable to offer itself as an alternative to ODM so that the masses may join it. We await your digital essay hoping that it will be laden with facts and substance rather than the rumours we see in your piece herein.
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Post by kamalet on Jan 23, 2013 10:41:02 GMT 3
ODM's decision is SICKENING to say the very least.Apart from disqualifying Oduol who garnered almost 100,000 votes, the party decides in its unwisdom to give the certificate to the puny minnow who came LAST. Bw OlooI am wondering what the deep interest an official of a party that is supposed to be competing with ODM has in the affairs of ODM. Perhaps you can shed some light on that! It's just hypocritical for Oloo to prejudge ODM on a nominee list that has yet to be officially made public, and on results that are yet to be independently audited. If I asked you Bw Oloo, can you publish the authentic results for ODM Siaya gubernatorial race, will you give us the same trash we have seen splashed in newspapers over the last one week by the like of Larry Madowo - a closeted campaigner of his cousing brother Dr. William Oduol? I mean, do you even know the reasons why results were nullified in Siaya County and Gem? It's better to ask rather than try to second guess the NEB. Better still, give it a few days and the truth will come out! Again here, you are being disingenious peddling rumours and passing them off as fact. As an official of what I call briefcase political party known as SDP, I'd expect you to at least know people do not win nominations on the basis of votes only. If you were privy to ODM nomination criteria, you would know that the party is demanding for a lot more from aspirants than just their individual popularity. We not only have a new constitution that ODM is compliant to, the party also conducts due deligence on all its candidates prior to issue of nomination certficate. You thus need to understand that the NEB reaches its decisions based on a wide range of factors and not just votes. Mind you, candidates still have the option of appealing to IEBC if they feel the party decision is unjust. We must ask ourselves why disatisfied aspirants that Oloo points to above have not exercised this right if they are confident of their candidature as ODM aspirants, and if they have, why has the IEBC not overruled ODM NEB? Which sources? Dare to name them? The only authority publicly known in matters of nomination is the ODM National Election Board Chairman. All the rest as busy bodies and pretenders to the throne. Unless you can table substantive evidence, we shall treat this as rumour mongering, very unfortunate coming from a man of your standing. Great! SO let's wait and see if IEBC will overrule ODM NEB. These unamed aspirants could be a figment of someone's imaginations. But then again, they could be many of the candidates that were unmasked as TNA moles within ODM, sponsored by the richest party to come and cause havoc from within. We shall very soon expose these characters. [/b] This double face hypocrisy is enough to make one log out and PUKE in DISGUST.In fact, let me do just that. Back in a few hours with a full fledged digital essay on the subject. Onyango Oloo Nairobi[/quote] The ODM is an independent political party in Kenya that does not compel members to join it. It has its rules and regulations and party organs. The NEB is one such organ. It would be a little unwise for ODM to listen to the consel of an official of a competing party, one that has refused or is incapable to offer itself as an alternative to ODM so that the masses may join it. We await your digital essay hoping that it will be laden with facts and substance rather than the rumours we see in your piece herein.[/quote] Phil You are a media man (or something like that) but surely if you do not want someone to comment on a story, you do not put them down as you have tried to. You supply them with facts and then they will shut up. You have offered absolutely no explanation for the behaviour of ODM and its NEB so in the absence of such an explanation, what happens is that you have people come with all sorts of theories that become a problem to undo. Luckily for me, I did not have to wait and rely on you coming to Jukwaa to put people down. Your chairman of the NEB on Cheche this morning did a very poor show trying to make a case for the ridiculous behaviour. One thing he finally said did make sense but sadly opened up the party to a lot of ridicule. Bett was very right that every party looks for the best strategy to win an election seat and the realignments that were seen from Siaya, to Gem and to Nairobi were informed by this. I cannot argue with this position, but perhaps what I disagree with is how it is effected. Look at it this way, in Nairobi Kidero was seen as the front runner in the ODM ranks for governor and people were pushed out to make it for him - Wanjiru on a technicality and Kisia through a little lie!It should have been the same thing for the senator post so that Ongoro or Tom Kajwang are not misled into thinking they had bagged the nominations unopposed and a majority vote respectively. They should have been shunted out prior to the 18th and if necessary be tricked to go the Kisia route by "defecting" to a Cord party! My point is that ODM would have done it a lot better than it did in resolving and managing its strategy. Now all that is left to disgruntled people is the decision of the tribunal of the IEBC on nominations and I am hopeful that our resident legal minds can tell us the powers of the tribunal in deciding the nomination disputes!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 23, 2013 19:48:19 GMT 3
Phil:
Onyango Oloo has the right to comment on Kenyan politics.
He does not have to be a member of KANU, TNA, UDF, URP or for that matter ODM to comment on the internal affairs of any of these parties.
Like I told you elsewhere, I know so much about the INTERNAL rot of ODM from ODM INSIDERS that I keep out of Jukwaa.
But you are making me reconsider my decision to be discreet about some of these things.
Onyango Oloo Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 Years and Counting...
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Post by phil on Jan 23, 2013 20:06:38 GMT 3
Phil:Onyango Oloo has the right to comment on Kenyan politics. He does not have to be a member of KANU, TNA, UDF, URP or for that matter ODM to comment on the internal affairs of any of these parties. Like I told you elsewhere, I know so much about the INTERNAL rot of ODM from ODM INSIDERS that I keep out of Jukwaa.But you are making me reconsider my decision to be discreet about some of these things. Onyango Oloo Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 Years and Counting... Onyango Oloo the Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 years and CountingMy challange to you still stands. If you can substantiate the desputed results that you published with so much confidence, then hats off. ODM is not perfect, and neither are the myriad of political parties in Kenya SDP included. So yes, please go ahead and reveal whatever internal rot you may have on ODM. I wonder if you will do the same for SDP. Oduol was negotiating with ODM NEB whilst he already had a nomination ticket from another party. Perhaps the NEB was right after all.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 23, 2013 20:10:45 GMT 3
Phil:Onyango Oloo has the right to comment on Kenyan politics. He does not have to be a member of KANU, TNA, UDF, URP or for that matter ODM to comment on the internal affairs of any of these parties. Like I told you elsewhere, I know so much about the INTERNAL rot of ODM from ODM INSIDERS that I keep out of Jukwaa.But you are making me reconsider my decision to be discreet about some of these things. Onyango Oloo Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 Years and Counting... Onyango Oloo the Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 years and CountingMy challange to you still stands. If you can substantiate the desputed results that you published with so much confidence, then hats off. ODM is not perfect, and neither are the myriad of political parties in Kenya SDP included. So yes, please go ahead and reveal whatever internal rot you may have on ODM. I wonder if you will do the same for SDP. Oduol was negotiating with ODM NEB whilst he already had a nomination ticket from another party. Perhaps the NEB was right after all. Oduol had another nomination ticket from another party while pretending to negotiate with ODM? what??? and to think he accused ODM for being unfair.. what a con man!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 23, 2013 20:15:26 GMT 3
Phil:Onyango Oloo has the right to comment on Kenyan politics. He does not have to be a member of KANU, TNA, UDF, URP or for that matter ODM to comment on the internal affairs of any of these parties. Like I told you elsewhere, I know so much about the INTERNAL rot of ODM from ODM INSIDERS that I keep out of Jukwaa.But you are making me reconsider my decision to be discreet about some of these things. Onyango Oloo Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 Years and Counting... Onyango Oloo the Kenyan Social Justice Activist Who Has Been Speaking Truth to Power for 30 years and CountingMy challange to you still stands. If you can substantiate the desputed results that you published with so much confidence, then hats off. ODM is not perfect, and neither are the myriad of political parties in Kenya SDP included. So yes, please go ahead and reveal whatever internal rot you may have on ODM. I wonder if you will do the same for SDP. Oduol was negotiating with ODM NEB whilst he already had a nomination ticket from another party. Perhaps the NEB was right after all. Phil Did you notice on jukwaa when it comes to the "TNA" elections and disgruntled aspirants? i.e Mary Wambui had to stomp the IEBC offices to get her complaint heard .. yani Uhuru/Jubliee supporters are so desperate to demolish Odm, they don't care posting outright lies and propaganda on here..the beauty of it all is that we are here to debunk them!! ;D ;D
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