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Post by b6k on Mar 3, 2013 8:10:36 GMT 3
githu muigai is quoted by my informant as saying that a senior judge would be identified to swear in the next president should willy mutunga not be available.
i thought the katiba is clear on who swears the president and public officers? which begs the question can mutunga be relied on by those in power to act as he did with the deputy inspectors of police.? Nereah, let me humour you a bit with another 'precedent' from far and wide, a bit different, but the technical execution is worth studying. One day long ago, the parliament of Belgium passed the abortion legislation, which meant the legalisation thereof. All that remained, as a statutory requirement, to make it operative, was the signature of the King. But the old and nearly senile King, who was publicly rumoured to be in the claws of Op us Dei Rasputins, in addition to his court being controlled by other very conservative Catholic notables who run the paedophilia network the Catholic priesthood has become, refused to do such thing in the knowledge God was on his side! Over my dead body, the monarch told the PM to his face, in a famous breach of protocol. The Belgian PM then was too timid to answer: so be it then, your majesty! over your royal corpse it shall be! So what to do now? the question faced the bemused political class as the republican wing sought to use this episode to push their agenda, either for abdication to modernise the monarchy, or the logical modern conclusion, a republic un-encumbered with such cobwebs of history as the catholic church and Opus Dei! You all know him as the President of the European Council. Herman van Rompuy. Well, it was this wily fox who saved the political class from a total loss of faith from the public, which could have dissolved the already weak social fabric of Belgium. Herman proposed that the King should fall sick on a sunday, too sick to perform his official duties. But parliament command the prime minister that this sunday would be the last to have the law operational. The PM would then be within this war mandates by parliament, behave as if Belgium was a republic for one day, do the necessary with the backing of a majority in parliament [after some wheeling and dealing], and the law become operative. Come Monday, the King could recover, but have no memory of the sunday in which, senile as he was anyway, other matters of state had been prioritised! A German paper wrote: If the Belgians would be this creative with their economy, Germany would be a Belgian colony. I am happy they keep it to politics! And they do not need Shakespeares to write their royal dramas either! Nereah, what am saying, is, let us be a bit more sophisticated than sending death threat letters to CJ Mutunga, or having him disappear in an unmarked grave or hijacking him like Kivuitu. Let him just fall sick and be admitted to the dysentery unit of KNH for that day. The next day after the swearing in by the friendly judge, he resumes his job. Mutunga can not refuse to swear a rigger on principle. His own courts have come up with a definition of integrity which does not disqualify an ICC indictee from running for PORK. Some integrity clause that. Those same courts can not turn around and declare they have a reluctance to swear in a rigee . First he is sworn in, by protocol dictate after IEBC chair has said so, then the court cases can begin, looking at the electoral offenses alleged.
And then, yes you guessed it! processes, protocols, procedures. The full rigmarole of the circus! with Mutunga friends like the esteemed Ibrahim and the goodly Warsame taking 8 years to schedule a hearing!
You can fool some people some time, can't fool them all all the time.
I told you! yuora, better Harvard than Osgoode. Why? Harvard training does not shirk the Killer instinct when business dictates it.
A Harvard man would have held Kenya the knife. You want integrity, these fellows do not run. You want them for president, you forget integrity. No two ways about it. So screw you, Wanjiku, either way I am keeping my job!
But then, Harvard is imperial!
I will be back. Jakaswanga, once again you tell it like it is. Much hullabaloo is made about the CJ being the custodian of God knows what but I think the judiciary already let the horse bolt out of the barn as you said: "Those same courts can not turn around and declare they have a reluctance to swear in a rigee . First he is sworn in, by protocol dictate after IEBC chair has said so, then the court cases can begin, looking at the electoral offenses alleged."Whichever way you vote, we are bound to have criminals, or at least the usual suspects at the helm in KE
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Post by malkia on Mar 3, 2013 8:43:37 GMT 3
The law says that the president will be sworn in by they registrar of the Supreme Court in the presence of Chief Justice. The Consitution of Kenya 2010 141(1) The swearing in of the President-elect shall be in public before the Chief Jusitce, or, in the absence of the Chief Justice, the Deputy Chief Justice. ( emphasis mine) The AG is of course entitled to an opinion but he is not the final interpreter of the Constitution, that too is a role for the Supreme Court. The opinion by the AG is unconstitutional on it's face, and can be challenged in Court (the Supreme Court). Further, thus latest move by the Executive through the AG is, in my opinion, an attempt to undermine and neutralize both the Consitution and the Office of the Chief Justice. I would also argue it is an unauthorized expansion of Executive power. This is a harbinger of further direct attacks on the Constitution and the Judiciary, headed by Dr. Willy Mutunga.
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 3, 2013 15:59:58 GMT 3
Jakaswanga, enlighten me a bit: who are the Opus Dei Rasputins you mention above? Euonyi,If you were asking the question in relation to Kenya, then Otishotish's answer will do. But if it was in relation to Belgique, the following will do. God's Work, Opus Dei, is a catholic 'sharia' group. A highly orthodox, fundamentalist strand. Queen Fabiola of Belgium who is related to the Spanish founder of the 'prelature', is credited as the evil apostle who infested the higher echelons of European royalty with the opus dei virus, and recruited the Belgian monarchy into its crunchy jaws. The secretive nature of this sect, led to an infiltration by pedophile priests, and when the scandal really broke --(A whole arch bishop in the city of Mechelen was hauled to court for running a protection ring of pedophiles), in addition to Opus Dei's further tentacular infiltrations into the judiciary, the army and the banking sector, Belgium found it necessary to declare Opus Dei a dangerous sect, undermining public good! It became a national newspaper sport, outing sect members high up in the bureaucracies. An Octopus. John Paul II, the pope who consecrated their founder was their worthy patron, may be one of their own too. And they have been blackmailing the current pope, oops, intimidating the immediate former pope, the German Ratzinger alias Benedictus vi, into resignation! ---Common Euonyi, don't you follow VATILEAKS, the skulduggery in the catholic Church, where the African continent with her pious flock is one of the giant pillars of the faith??? And the next pope will be.... ============= www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/26/pope-opus-dei-vatican-leaks
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 3, 2013 16:20:41 GMT 3
The law says that the president will be sworn in by they registrar of the Supreme Court in the presence of Chief Justice. The Constitution of Kenya 2010 141(1) The swearing in of the President-elect shall be in public before the Chief Justice, or, in the absence of the Chief Justice, the Deputy Chief Justice. ( emphasis mine) The AG is of course entitled to an opinion but he is not the final interpreter of the Constitution, that too is a role for the Supreme Court. The opinion by the AG is unconstitutional on it's face, and can be challenged in Court (the Supreme Court). Further, thus latest move by the Executive through the AG is, in my opinion, an attempt to undermine and neutralize both the Constitution and the Office of the Chief Justice. I would also argue it is an unauthorized expansion of Executive power. This is a harbinger of further direct attacks on the Constitution and the Judiciary, headed by Dr. Willy Mutunga. The triumvirate of powers, which is the modern magic wand of functional democracies, is still a delicate, precarious show. And in volatile compositions like ours, incessantly fluid. I have caught Mutunga severally behave in in his office as if he did not recognize this simple fact. It is one reason I have often criticized him harshly. One may be CJ, but at a decisive moment power [struggle] one faction can arrive in your office with a kill message. Do or die, 15 seconds. Amos Wako, if he bothers, will one day tell the tale of the options Biwott and Moi gave him as AG. --The total man was total in his demands. The constitution itself is a worthless piece of paper like the soldiers of Nigeria said of their 1979 wonder of Afrika. What matters, and makes the difference, is the men [and women] who will rise up to defend it at the point of death. If nobody is ready to defend it with his life, then men, Like any dictator you have heard of, will urinate on it as highly educated judges watch and clap.
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Post by nereah on Mar 3, 2013 16:29:03 GMT 3
thanks jakaswanga for that. the mischievous scholar photoed above is raising umbrage in the jubilee circles with his latest outlook on kenya through the intellectual glasses of his bosom buddy willy the mutunga.see mwalimumkuu's ;D gripe above the question that we may want to idly ask is that can mutunga turn down an invite (that is if has not had another parley with moi) from the kenyan adult who has the biggest stakes in this transitional elections?will he go and will he share it with we the people?
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Post by nereah on Mar 30, 2013 19:28:56 GMT 3
is the jury still out?
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Post by nereah on Mar 31, 2013 13:04:13 GMT 3
we knew that it wont be long before the fool/s embedded in kenya's vertical politics of corruption starts messing about as they wrestle with their seared conscience. country men and women......refill your pop corn bowls... no wonder.......!
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Post by nereah on Apr 1, 2013 13:58:38 GMT 3
trust but verify did we say?
well in the fullness of time......., here is burning spear on why friendship and promises can cause alot of disturbances.
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Post by nereah on Apr 1, 2013 15:35:50 GMT 3
the cover story of the latest issue of the the weekend star which is curiously unavailable online, is proof positive that willy the mutunga and his motley of five have visited dishonour to this great nation and the kenyan judiciary.
as the justice caught up with the likes of justice riaga omollo who conspired with the emperor to rob ken matiba and millions of kenyans the victory,so shall the muntungas in the fullness of time. however long it takes for the evidence are there.
one of the questions that you will have to answer to future generations is the merit of admitting githu the mugai yet rejecting yash pal ghai despite available evidence both having publicly shown biases to the parties in the case.
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Post by furaha on Apr 1, 2013 15:46:24 GMT 3
the cover story of the latest issue of the the weekend star which is curiously unavailable online, is proof positive that willy the mutunga and his motley of five have visited dishonour to this great nation and the kenyan judiciary. as the justice caught up with the likes of justice riaga omollo who conspired with the emperor to rob ken matiba and millions of kenyans the victory,so shall the muntungas in the fullness of time. however long it takes for the evidence are there. one of the questions that you will have to answer to future generations is the merit of admitting githu the mugai yet rejecting yash pal ghai despite available evidence both having publicly shown biases to the parties in the case. dear Nereah, could you kindly give a little more information about the content of the StarWeekend article? I don't have access to hard copies of The Star at the moment. Thanks, Furaha
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Post by kamalet on Apr 1, 2013 15:50:41 GMT 3
we knew that it wont be long before the fool/s embedded in kenya's vertical politics of corruption starts messing about as they wrestle with their seared conscience. country men and women......refill your pop corn bowls... no wonder.......! Nereah I think you allowed yourself to be disappointed and you really should have prepared for it. On Friday night as we had a drink with some mates, the thought of the Supreme Court allowing the petition did cross many minds, but the most amazing thing was the resolve to go and vote again and to overwhelmingly sort it out for Raila once and for all. So the ruling on Saturday was a relief but certainly not one that would have caused the reaction I see in you.
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Post by nereah on Apr 1, 2013 16:00:40 GMT 3
dear Nereah, could you kindly give a little more information about the content of the StarWeekend article? I don't have access to hard copies of The Star at the moment. Thanks, Furaha furaha, willy the mutunga's and his motley team were among other things to determine,beyond shadow of doubt that the election of ouru kenyatta was free, fair, transparent and constitutional and in the lingo of keithi kilonzo, that kenyatta was not unlawfully granted power. the star confirms the significant doubts on the validity and constitutionality of this election with proof of the massive irregularities in 10 constituencies. please kindly note that the submission of solid and incontrovertible evidences were not only thrown out but as a show of depth of conspiracy,ordered expunged from the records. i hope my able assistant will be able to scan and reproduce the story in question given that i am dictating this posting from afar off.its some minutes to 4 in nairobi.that could take about an hour or so. but i am also sure that some colleagues here like phil could be of help. unedited!
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Post by nereah on Apr 1, 2013 16:03:53 GMT 3
we knew that it wont be long before the fool/s embedded in kenya's vertical politics of corruption starts messing about as they wrestle with their seared conscience. country men and women......refill your pop corn bowls... no wonder.......! Nereah I think you allowed yourself to be disappointed and you really should have prepared for it. On Friday night as we had a drink with some mates, the thought of the Supreme Court allowing the petition did cross many minds, but the most amazing thing was the resolve to go and vote again and to overwhelmingly sort it out for Raila once and for all. So the ruling on Saturday was a relief but certainly not one that would have caused the reaction I see in you. kamale, there is much to say on this but we are holding our peace to allow the transition. do you know that cord had to change its statement that agwambo had earlier prepared? i wont say more than this. i have to rush. see you later
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 1, 2013 17:29:49 GMT 3
Nereah I think you allowed yourself to be disappointed and you really should have prepared for it. On Friday night as we had a drink with some mates, the thought of the Supreme Court allowing the petition did cross many minds, but the most amazing thing was the resolve to go and vote again and to overwhelmingly sort it out for Raila once and for all. So the ruling on Saturday was a relief but certainly not one that would have caused the reaction I see in you. kamale, there is much to say on this but we are holding our peace to allow the transition. do you know that cord had to change its statement that agwambo had earlier prepared? i wont say more than this. i have to rush. see you later Nereah,Disappointments are part of life, but self-inflicted disappointment such as yours deserves no sympathy really. If one and the only prove of wrong doing is the changing of statement by CORD, a group that was thriving on nothing but false hope, then such disappointment is really misplaced.
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Post by mank on Apr 1, 2013 17:46:04 GMT 3
Dada Nereah,
Usisikitike. Why would you now, when what is now in the open was all along so clearly probable?
I have heard stories about some fellow who was stranded in the sea ... a boat came by, and he refused to board, claiming that his god would save him. Then other forms of vessels came by, and likewise he dismissed each of them in turn, claiming his god still had a special plan for his safety .... I wish I cared to listen to the whole story and perhaps keep notes, for I would now narrate it well .... oh well, it probably does not even fit the context that well, but that's what I am reminded of anyway!
The thing is, there was one guy talking about "Tyranny of #s" ... the CORDed folks rejected the story even with fury. Then the opinions polls .... those too they rejected - perhaps if they took any of those seriously then they would have sharpened their craft and possibly made some difference. Then the actual election .... that too they scorned. Then the Supreme Court ... oh no! Please no ...I have heard them say they accept, but it is still shingo-upande. .... CJ Mutunga can really be trusted ... ndiye yule yule most at Jukwaa were excited about.
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Post by kamalet on Apr 1, 2013 18:00:57 GMT 3
Nereah I think you allowed yourself to be disappointed and you really should have prepared for it. On Friday night as we had a drink with some mates, the thought of the Supreme Court allowing the petition did cross many minds, but the most amazing thing was the resolve to go and vote again and to overwhelmingly sort it out for Raila once and for all. So the ruling on Saturday was a relief but certainly not one that would have caused the reaction I see in you. kamale, there is much to say on this but we are holding our peace to allow the transition. do you know that cord had to change its statement that agwambo had earlier prepared? i wont say more than this. i have to rush. see you later Wa Amadi I hope that 'other' statement was to congratulate the court for allowing the petition and restating his faith in the courts......but I think I am wrong and the one changed by Cord was a lot more sinister( assuming the invoking of cord you mean the presence of Kalonzo and Wetangula to make sure he read the right statement!)
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Post by b6k on Apr 2, 2013 21:08:22 GMT 3
dear Nereah, could you kindly give a little more information about the content of the StarWeekend article? I don't have access to hard copies of The Star at the moment. Thanks, Furaha furaha, willy the mutunga's and his motley team were among other things to determine,beyond shadow of doubt that the election of ouru kenyatta was free, fair, transparent and constitutional and in the lingo of keithi kilonzo, that kenyatta was not unlawfully granted power. the star confirms the significant doubts on the validity and constitutionality of this election with proof of the massive irregularities in 10 constituencies. please kindly note that the submission of solid and incontrovertible evidences were not only thrown out but as a show of depth of conspiracy,ordered expunged from the records. i hope my able assistant will be able to scan and reproduce the story in question given that i am dictating this posting from afar off.its some minutes to 4 in nairobi.that could take about an hour or so. but i am also sure that some colleagues here like phil could be of help. unedited! Phil wa Jukwaa/Kumekucha/Kibera/Orange House was on suicide watch before the elections & has not been heard of since the first round shellacking....
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Post by nereah on Apr 6, 2013 14:10:59 GMT 3
dear Nereah, could you kindly give a little more information about the content of the StarWeekend article? I don't have access to hard copies of The Star at the moment. Thanks, Furaha here is it is.
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Post by KOLONEL BRISK on Apr 6, 2013 18:37:18 GMT 3
Modern Day Heroes at the hands of Courts.
I am Prepared to Die. Okong´o Arara, a true Hero
“I do not ask for leniency from this court for to do so is to recognize its right to judge me. I expect no mercy and ask for none, for if there is no mercy for millions of Kenyans, what will mercy for one individual serve?..Those apostles who have attempted to rescue justice have found themselves in detention, prison or exile….I am proud and happy to join the company of such illustrious sons and daughters of the land. The people of this nation are simply demanding their fundamental rights and freedoms. They are simply demanding their rights to a descent living, right to education, right to proper medical care, right to housing. In short right to be human beings. If that is sedition, so be it. These are the goals for which I have always fought, and for which I am prepared to die” The former Kenya Air Force officer Harris Okong'o Arara, answering to sedition charges before a magistrate.
Nelson Mandela had the following to tell a judge in a Pretoria Supreme Court on, 20 April 1964
"Their struggle is a truly national one. It is a struggle of the African people, inspired by their own suffering and their own experience. It is a struggle for the right to live. During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die" .
Fidel Castro said this in a court of law.
"I know that imprisonment will be harder for me than it has ever been for anyone, filled with cowardly threats and hideous cruelty. But I do not fear prison, as I do not fear the fury of the miserable tyrant who took the lives of 70 of my comrades. Condemn me. It does not matter. History will absolve me."
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Post by nereah on Apr 7, 2013 14:23:08 GMT 3
colonel brisk,
greetings from the land of gilbert deya here by the lakeside from where i am dictating this post.
your post on arara and mandela is evocative to those of us who were maimed,widowed,devastated and ruined by the evil genius of dictator moi.
i am a conversationalist who engages broad spectrum of thoughts on issues kenyan and global.i am also of an intensely curious mind and highly intuitive..traits that were borne out of moi's terror in those dark days when a generation, some barely out of their teens and are here in jukwaa were, had their lives ruined.families were orphaned and widowed,impoverished and maimed,ostracized and exiled,bereaved and antagonised.
here in bondo,a man walked out of moi's jailed cell and never spoke the rest of his life owing to the mental anguish and physical torture.
the irony is that moi relied on brilliant and not so brilliant luo minds to mete out this barbarism on kenyans whose only crime was to struggle for the genuine change where wealth is redistributed,where children of peasants have hope for the future as those of the urban elites.
it pains some of us when we see those who had stood out to speak truth to the power; who had sacrificed immensely and whose lives would have been much much better had they opted for the neocons making the big turn around to suck up to the system.
you want to hear ,read or listen to what say rateng ogego told the trial judge in those dark days and want to reconcile that to his latter-day posturings (this i say neither slightly nor lightly) and same to the likes of omin ondiek and now wily mutunga and you ask yourself, what really happened?
we read the other day that there is a hotline at mutunga's officia office that of all the radical reforms that mutunga was making,he conveniently chose to ensure that the line still remains.talk of the independence of judiciary.
i had the sense to call mutunga out with this thread way back before the elections and as many as those in agreement in kenya's progressive movement, have agreed that we lost mutunga the moment he swallowed moi's bait hook line and sinker.
we now know and ten years or so down the line will publicly state as was the case with judges like riaga omollo, the moral blight that the kibaki presidency visited on kenyans through the mutunga court.
this bitterness i borne out of credible, incontrovertible information that keep trickling in on the depth of subversion of kenyan's sovereign will through the state enterprise that i am alluding to in the thread: contextualizing kibaki's power grab of raila's victories.
god help kenya!
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Post by nereah on May 12, 2013 18:25:29 GMT 3
betrayal in the cityi told yo so. the supreme court whose president is one willy mutunga has overturned the ruling by two sisters, lady justices hannah okwengu and martha koome on the property dispute between moi and one bell. of course we know the story. the mzungu has been waiting for 32 years to get back the land which moi grabbed and the high court ruled that moi hand back the land then what did moi do, rush to the supreme court where he has been ordered not to hand over the land as directed by the two bench court of highly qualified judges.mutunga's supreme court will decide soon if moi can retain the land for good or not. i had called mutunga out the moment he used public resources(driver,bodyguards and cars)to make it to moi's private residence for a secret meeting.why this is serious is because moi is the only ex-president alive in east africa with the record number of lawsuits and mutunga headed the judiciary where one boss shollei who happens to be the wife of the ceo of the standard group is the executive manager(registrar).this is significant because standard group is owned by the moi family. na ishitoshe, as we the people were throwing up at the latest development,mutunga's representative, one justice smokin wanjala thrusted the mid finger on kenya's taxpayers by dismissing overwhelming and credible evidence against some boisterous judge(justice mutava).mutava goes down in history as the judge who trivialized and subsequently terminated a crime that cost kenyans sh 100 billion. source daily nation of may 10th 2013 details: makinikai guess its time to find out from prof. mutua what became of mutunga?
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Post by jakaswanga on May 15, 2013 20:30:29 GMT 3
is the jury still out? RUTO'S SHOOT TO KILL ORDER AND CJ MUTUNGA'S LEGAL SCHOLARSHIP.Nereah, THE JURY HAS BEEN SIDELINED! THE JUSTICE OF WHICH MUTUNGA IS CHIEF TOO! With most of urban Kenya effectively under curfew due to fear of violent thugs, and now some rural areas spinning out of control security wise, Ruto's blood ante may very well be running a 100% approval rate. -- [Like black enslavement under Southern Whites at a certain period in history]. But still I am not impressed. Nations are replete with anti-crime campaigns that went nowhere because the POLICE FORCE ITSELF was the chief criminal organisation. Narco states like Mexico are the best examples. Off duty, the cops are in the exclusive employe of drug cartels, whereas in uniform they are time sharing between the interests of the politicians and the drug gangs. The few honest cops in between do not make a difference. The kill-power unchecked they only use to 'carve out, extend or defend a business niche!'Kenya is not a latino narco-state, it is an African currupto-state where people who, if the judicial system were not dysfunctional positively, should be in jail for theft of public resources, are in power and running the security services. ---The Waiganjo Baragoi mix-up gave us a comical insight into the murky games that pass. But my point is two fold: 1. In the new constitutional order, headed by a legal scholar called Mutunga, there must be an attempt to constitutionally ground such an carte blanche death warrant as issued by Ruto the killing Will , if the state of emergency has not been declared. ---Legal scholars will remember that Obama, whom Uhuruto likes to ape, has set up a legal commando team at the AGs to scour the laws of the USA, and find a clause that legitimises his kill-thirst. ---And Gosh, they have unearthed Richard Nixon's Cambodian war-crimes as their precedent. Desperate times indeed. Likewise in Kenya, Mutunga who has gone to Osgoode can not just hide his studds under his wig along with his jamming brains, no, he has to come up with a LEGAL EXPOSITION, to legitimate or otherwise, the turning of the police force into an army in a theater of operation: that is suspend civil rights, shoot first, ask questions later. Well done. ---For that is what a shoot to kill entails: suspension of rights of the suspects: [enemy combatants Bush called it!] Prosecutor, Juror, and executioner ---shoot to kill, means the judiciary is irrelevant! sidelined. How does the legal scholar Mutunga explain his acceptance of the irrelevance of his courts?Aaah, practically the public and police having been overwhelmed by the general state of crime --the constitution and its nice-sounding academic bullsh!ts can wait! We will do a bit of the law of jungle, until such a time that we have the time to indulge in the nonsense of the legal stipulations of ARREST, MIRANDA RIGHTS, PROSECUTE with LEGAL ASSISTANCE, SENTENCE or ACQUIT! Who needs the rule of law when the laws of the jungle suffice? who needs civilisation? But when you are CJ who has gone to Osgoode and is earning tax-payers loot, I do will demand to hear your thinking, or I will be on your studded ar-se with a hot pepper enema! Keeping you awake! Is the jury still out? asks Nereah. What cheek! [ nyako we milri koda! Nyalobet mamitna! Jowa!]
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 6:26:25 GMT 3
nereah et jakaswangayou're going to love this one. To add insult to injury; it goes from bad to worse. Now break it down for us. pls :-) Kenyans now trust their courts, CJ Mutunga says By ANTONY KARANJA in DALLAS, TEXAS Posted Wednesday, May 15 2013 at 13:48
Chief Justice Willy Mutunga has said that Kenyans now trust their judicial system after the unanimous ruling on the presidential petition.
Dr Mutunga said one of the biggest challenges he faced was getting Kenyans to trust that the system could deliver justice, rather than favouring rich individuals and big corporations.
During a meeting with Chief Judge of the State of New York Jonathan Lippman on Monday, Dr Mutunga cited Raila Odinga's acceptance of the ruling as a sign that the Kenyans now have faith in their courts.
However, a week after the Supreme Court decision to uphold the election of Uhuru Kenyatta as the fourth President of Kenya, Mr Odinga criticised the decision, terming it as unpopular and likening it to persecution of Jesus Christ.
“The decision is like the persecution of Jesus Christ that occurred more than 2000 years ago. But like Jesus, I am still alive,” he told a crowd in Kondele, Kisumu.
According to Dr Mutunga, the fact that there was no repeat of violence after the ruling means the judicial system has come of age.
“However, there is still work to be done in changing the rough edges of the judicial culture in Kenya.” Mutunga said.
He added that corruption that was widespread in the courts now has no place during his tenure and reforms will be linked to successful judicial systems in countries such as India, South Africa and Colombia.
The meeting with Judge Lippman focused on exchange of ideas about judicial transparency and accountability in seeking to modernise Kenya's courts.www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenyans-now-trust-their-courts-Mutunga-says/-/1056/1853470/-/ypcee4z/-/index.htmlAND speaking of Colombia and it's judiciary SEE www.opendemocracy.net/adam-isacson/colombia-state-of-flux
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Post by jakaswanga on May 18, 2013 10:43:52 GMT 3
nereah et jakaswangayou're going to love this one. To add insult to injury; it goes from bad to worse. Now break it down for us. pls :-) Kenyans now trust their courts, CJ Mutunga says By ANTONY KARANJA in DALLAS, TEXAS Posted Wednesday, May 15 2013 at 13:48
Chief Justice Willy Mutunga has said that Kenyans now trust their judicial system after the unanimous ruling on the presidential petition.
Dr Mutunga said one of the biggest challenges he faced was getting Kenyans to trust that the system could deliver justice, rather than favouring rich individuals and big corporations.
During a meeting with Chief Judge of the State of New York Jonathan Lippman on Monday, Dr Mutunga cited Raila Odinga's acceptance of the ruling as a sign that the Kenyans now have faith in their courts.
However, a week after the Supreme Court decision to uphold the election of Uhuru Kenyatta as the fourth President of Kenya, Mr Odinga criticised the decision, terming it as unpopular and likening it to persecution of Jesus Christ.
“The decision is like the persecution of Jesus Christ that occurred more than 2000 years ago. But like Jesus, I am still alive,” he told a crowd in Kondele, Kisumu.
According to Dr Mutunga, the fact that there was no repeat of violence after the ruling means the judicial system has come of age.
“However, there is still work to be done in changing the rough edges of the judicial culture in Kenya.” Mutunga said.
He added that corruption that was widespread in the courts now has no place during his tenure and reforms will be linked to successful judicial systems in countries such as India, South Africa and Colombia.
The meeting with Judge Lippman focused on exchange of ideas about judicial transparency and accountability in seeking to modernise Kenya's courts.www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenyans-now-trust-their-courts-Mutunga-says/-/1056/1853470/-/ypcee4z/-/index.htmlAND speaking of Colombia and it's judiciary SEE www.opendemocracy.net/adam-isacson/colombia-state-of-flux KK, The following link I was planning to put under b6k's thread about Mwangi raining on pattni's party. Now it is pouring on the Judge who launched the party too"! www.nation.co.ke/News/How-Kamlesh-Pattni-has-beaten-Kenyas-criminal-justice-system/-/1056/1760390/-/i4esx2/-/index.htmlKathure --what is it with you Canadians once you get top jobs ? This CJ of yours is a caricature of himself! How long must we wait before, like your other Canadian Miguna, he comes out with his MEMOIRS crying MEA CULPA CULPA CULPA! i AM SORRY 'WE' were as corrupt as Mpigs!For instance, I did not know how important it was, when the supreme court accepted the AG as 'friend of the court' [amicus curiae] but declined the same to the Law Society of Kenya. Since then I have gathered some considered opinion on the episode, the laws and the politics of it. That event alone casts serious doubts on mental state of the CJ respective the definition of objectivity. Well this is the DN reporting, and may be they are putting words in Mutunga's tube. But if he said all these things and meant them, then our CJ really is a azzhole the size of a major Botswana diamonds excavation site, or a New York subway double-lane. But here is some more while he was away: www.nation.co.ke/News/Pattni-judge-suspended-/-/1056/1855796/-/item/0/-/gtsf9lz/-/index.htmlSo much for the confidence of 'Kenyans' in their Judiciary. Something went wrong during the vetting that many a rotten one passed? Canada trained lawyer! ruined reputation!
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Post by jakaswanga on May 18, 2013 17:30:37 GMT 3
Kathure Kebaara,The DAILY NATION HERE: Now please read the following excerpt from another source on the same subject, and bear with me if you have any children going to Canadian law schools. Remember they are CANADIAN trained Judges out there, making a mess of the HARIRI TRIBUNAL (also the called the LEBANON tribunal). Afer fingering HEZBOLLAH with flimsy evidence, one of them was jockingly called an American-hired hitman on loan to Israel and resigned, for other reasons of course. But on Kenya, here is a meaning more forged in thought than our Dr. Studds can master! www.crisisgroup.org/~/media/Files/africa/horn-of-africa/kenya/b094-kenya-after-the-elections.pdfAnd further on page 3. We can only conclude the daily nation did not quote Mutunga correctly nor understand his words. For if otherwise, the scholar in him is even in a deeper coma than the integrity chapter in the new constitution! www.thecornerreport.com/index.php?p=7220&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1And the canadian judges have rise to the quixotic task of taming Hezbollah! mercenaries that they are!
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