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Post by b6k on Oct 6, 2014 18:28:36 GMT 3
Kenya's dubious day in court effectively neutralized by Uhuru's step down... OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Kenya’s Dubious Day in Court By MICHAEL MEYER OCTOBER 5, 2014 NAIROBI, Kenya — Will he or won’t he? That is the question Kenyans have been asking in recent weeks. The International Criminal Court has ordered President Uhuru Kenyatta to appear, in person, before the tribunal on Wednesday for alleged crimes against humanity. Will he comply, or will he follow the urging of the African Union and refuse — sending a signal that a court biased against Africa has no right to judge a sitting African head of state? The president’s legal team has advised him to go to The Hague, if only to avoid an international outcry and a possible Interpol arrest warrant. Either way, it will be a punctuation point in the I.C.C.’s checkered history. President Kenyatta would be the first incumbent leader of a nation to stand before the court. He could also be the last. These days, even the most strenuous supporters of the court agree with its critics on one point: The International Criminal Court’s handling of the Kenyan case has done more damage to the accusers than the accused. The court’s reputation has suffered, perhaps fatally. By contrast, the Kenyan president and his fellow-indictee, Deputy President William Ruto, are set to emerge from the judicial ordeal as African folk heroes — the face of a new generation of independence fighters to stand against American and European neocolonialists conspiring to bring them down. Formally, the hearing set for Wednesday doesn’t mark the beginning of anything, let alone a trial. Rather, it is what legal experts call a “status conference,” called by the judges to review the state of the legal proceedings. By any measure, it’s not good. Twice in the last year, the I.C.C. prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, has requested an indefinite adjournment on grounds that she lacks the evidence to make her case. Repeatedly, she has accused the Kenyan government of refusing to hand over President Kenyatta’s personal financial records — requested in hopes that they might implicate the president in the ethnic violence that convulsed the country after the bitterly contested elections of December 2007. More fundamentally, the prosecution has been compromised by witnesses who have either withdrawn from the case or recanted on previous testimony. In Nairobi, rumors swirl that the government has been paying off or intimidating witnesses. True or not, such reports cut both ways. Taking the stand, some witnesses have claimed that they were paid by I.C.C. prosecutors to deliver false testimony. At least one confessed to forging hotel receipts and other expenses covered by the court. Still others have admitted to being seduced to testify by the prospect of living abroad, costs paid, as part of the court’s witness protection program — a credible incentive, to be sure, given that so many Kenyans dream of escaping poverty at home by getting a visa to work in the United States or Europe. All told, many legal experts agree that the otherwise serious case against Mr. Kenyatta has degenerated into something more resembling a circus, if not an outright farce Ironically, Kenya was originally among the international court’s most strenuous African supporters, signing the Rome Treaty in hopes that the tribunal could help end the impunity with which so many African dictators oppressed their people. Today, by contrast, the court is increasingly viewed as a dispenser of “white man’s justice.” Capturing this lamentable new zeitgeist, a recent article in the Daily Nation, Kenya’s leading newspaper, compared the Hague trial of Uhuru Kenyatta to the 1952 trial of his father, Jomo Kenyatta. Fearing that the elder Kenyatta would lead Kenya to independence, as he subsequently did, Britain’s colonial authorities trumped up charges implicating him in the infamous Mau Mau rebellion. Lacking concrete evidence, the government created witnesses by offering them healthy financial incentives, according to the legal scholar Obuya Bagaka of the Kenya School of Government. Not content to leave anything to chance, colonial officials further decided to bribe the judge in the case. For an amount of 20,000 pounds (more than $50,000 at the time), colonial-era documents have shown, the presiding magistrate delivered the desired verdict and sent Jomo Kenyatta and his alleged henchmen to jail. It’s unsettling that this scandalous episode should color today’s I.C.C. proceedings, for it shows the extent to which the international court’s credibility has been compromised. African leaders have long criticized the tribunal as overtly politicized, with a built-in bias against Africans. Others accuse it of being strong against weak countries, and weak against strong ones. The Kenya case has only deepened that prejudice. To them, the I.C.C.’s insistence that President Kenyatta attend the status conference in person smacks of a colonial star chamber, with the judges less concerned about administering justice than affirming the court’s own standing in the face of eroding global support. All this comes against the backdrop of the court’s performance elsewhere. The I.C.C. has been asked to investigate alleged crimes in 139 countries but, so far, has done so in fewer than a dozen, issuing over 30 arrest warrants — all in Africa. As for its effectiveness as an instrument of justice, consider that the court’s first conviction (one of only two so far), concerning the Democratic Republic of the Congo, was referred to the I.C.C. in 2004 and is still under appeal. It’s not clear how the court will rule in this week’s hearing. The judges could terminate the case, as President Kenyatta’s lawyers will request, or order the prosecutor to carry on despite the lack of evidence. Clearly and emphatically, the world needs an international criminal court. Just not this one. **Michael Meyer is dean of the graduate school of media and communications at the Aga Khan University in Nairobi. The views expressed here are his own. mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/kenyas-dubious-day-in-court.html?_r=0&referrer=Njakip, maybe Bensouda can attempt a citizen's arrest for the courts honouronce Mr Kenyatta lands at Den Haag?...
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Post by Luol Deng on Oct 6, 2014 19:02:11 GMT 3
b6k,
After Uhuru aides, MPs, hangers on and other idlers decided to apply for visas to the Netherlands in their hundreds it was clear that he was going to honour this summon. Besides, he clearly sees that the case is collapsing, so this may be just for the propaganda value more than anything else. Itumbi & other social media clowns have obviously taken this into an overdrive. The constitution is fairly clear on the procedure to be followed when the president steps down, what the acting president can or cannot do etc.
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Post by b6k on Oct 6, 2014 22:40:43 GMT 3
b6k, After Uhuru aides, MPs, hangers on and other idlers decided to apply for visas to the Netherlands in their hundreds it was clear that he was going to honour this summon. Besides, he clearly sees that the case is collapsing, so this may be just for the propaganda value more than anything else. Itumbi & other social media clowns have obviously taken this into an overdrive. The constitution is fairly clear on the procedure to be followed when the president steps down, what the acting president can or cannot do etc. Luol Deng, I saw footage of Orengo trying to downplay Uhuru's strategy by passing it off as the normal handover we are accustomed to seeing. You know, like the time he was overheard telling the newly Acting President to clamp down on the second lady's propensity "kumangamanga". It's not. This time it wasn't a verbal airside handing over the baton but a full fledged signed off & gazetted transfer of power. In one stroke he neutralized a lot of potential negatives (tarnishing of KE or snubbing the AU resolution by going & falling into a CORD constitutional crisis scenario by not going) into wins all round...except for CORD! I think in the past we've had the "soft" power handovers between the Dynamic Duo based on their arguments to the ICC that when one is away the other will be in charge. But this is the first time Uhuru has evoked a constitutional clause and surrendered his office fully to his deputy, with all the trappings of power. It's a big deal & will be studied around the globe for years to come...
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 7, 2014 19:34:58 GMT 3
b6k, After Uhuru aides, MPs, hangers on and other idlers decided to apply for visas to the Netherlands in their hundreds it was clear that he was going to honour this summon. Besides, he clearly sees that the case is collapsing, so this may be just for the propaganda value more than anything else. Itumbi & other social media clowns have obviously taken this into an overdrive. The constitution is fairly clear on the procedure to be followed when the president steps down, what the acting president can or cannot do etc. Luol Deng, I saw footage of Orengo trying to downplay Uhuru's strategy by passing it off as the normal handover we are accustomed to seeing. You know, like the time he was overheard telling the newly Acting President to clamp down on the second lady's propensity "kumangamanga". It's not. This time it wasn't a verbal airside handing over the baton but a full fledged signed off & gazetted transfer of power. In one stroke he neutralized a lot of potential negatives (tarnishing of KE or snubbing the AU resolution by going & falling into a CORD constitutional crisis scenario by not going) into wins all round...except for CORD! I think in the past we've had the "soft" power handovers between the Dynamic Duo based on their arguments to the ICC that when one is away the other will be in charge. But this is the first time Uhuru has evoked a constitutional clause and surrendered his office fully to his deputy, with all the trappings of power. It's a big deal & will be studied around the globe for years to come... b6k, the controversy is already rearing its head, even if purely for academic purposes --or mischief as the resurrected handle Sadik puts it in response to the link by Luoldeng in the resignation thread you launched. I would assume in the other previous absenses, there was no LEGAL NOTICE SIGNED. Therefore this is a key point, and its interpretations within the Kenyan constitution can be very varied. so, if Ruto is not a FULL mandate president now, has Mr. Muigai pocketed the rest of the mandate, and left with it to the Hague, in which case a fraction of the peoples sovereignty will still be subject to the external jurisdiction? Yeah, what are lawyers for if not splitting hairs! --Let us sit baaaak, and watch the calibers they train at the law school! www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Lawyer-in-court-to-have-Ruto-sworn-as-President/-/1064/2477936/-/cjnhin/-/index.html
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Post by b6k on Oct 8, 2014 17:37:22 GMT 3
Splitting hairs indeed. It should be noted that even the likes of CIC's Nyachae kept insisting that UK remained the president temporary transfer of power notwithstanding.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Sept 21, 2015 17:41:43 GMT 3
In the meantime, the case has taken another turn, adding to what we've consistently opined here that, these cases were crafted to meet a certain predetermined end. Hon. Moses Kuria has sensationally alleged that him, Martha Karua and other including Raila Odinga and Nyong'o played a very active role in tilting the cases one way or the other. Martha Karua has denied vehemently that she was involved in any underhand dealings in as far as the Hague cases are concerned. She has even threatened to sue Kuria both in Kenya and at the ICC. If there is one thing we can take from this is, it takes right back to 2007/08 and reminds us exactly how the PEV happened and why it cannot be two people who should be held responsible for the madness of an entire nation. Here is Karua: Interesting times head for Njakip~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by podp on Sept 21, 2015 22:07:45 GMT 3
In the meantime, the case has taken another turn, adding to what we've consistently opined here that, these cases were crafted to meet a certain predetermined end. Hon. Moses Kuria has sensationally alleged that him, Martha Karua and other including Raila Odinga and Nyong'o played a very active role in tilting the cases one way or the other. Martha Karua has denied vehemently that she was involved in any underhand dealings in as far as the Hague cases are concerned. She has even threatened to sue Kuria both in Kenya and at the ICC. If there is one thing we can take from this is, it takes right back to 2007/08 and reminds us exactly how the PEV happened and why it cannot be two people who should be held responsible for the madness of an entire nation. Here is Karua: Interesting times head for Njakip~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ “It would appear that Ruto’s prayers are getting answered and his real enemies are giving themselves up without being cajoled or coerced,”Raila said in a statement adding that he believes the ‘confessions’ will go on until the real “Prince” who has been executing tactics against Ruto is exposed. Raila wants Kuria charged for contravening both local and ICC laws against intent to mislead, making false statement, and fabricating evidence among others. Read more at: standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000177108/raila-ruto-s-prayers-being-answered-those-who-implicated-him-at-icc-confessingthe way the cookie crumbles
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Sept 24, 2015 16:47:58 GMT 3
Meanwhile, Martha Karua has moved to court over Hon Moses Kuria's linkage of her to ICC witness procurement. It is instructive to note that Martha is actually seeking a gag order for Kuria. She just does not want Kuria to continue giving too much information in the public, she would rather have it done behind closed doors of a court room where the public will not know the details. I sensed a problem with Karua the very first time she came out in the public over the matter. I indeed questioned her attack on DP Ruto instead of responding to Kuria directly. The drama just begun, mtego wa panya that is the ICC kangaroo. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by podp on Sept 24, 2015 22:06:04 GMT 3
Meanwhile, Martha Karua has moved to court over Hon Moses Kuria's linkage of her to ICC witness procurement. It is instructive to note that Martha is actually seeking a gag order for Kuria. She just does not want Kuria to continue giving too much information in the public, she would rather have it done behind closed doors of a court room where the public will not know the details. I sensed a problem with Karua the very first time she came out in the public over the matter. I indeed questioned her attack on DP Ruto instead of responding to Kuria directly. The drama just begun, mtego wa panya that is the ICC kangaroo. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ listening to the above reminded me of 'better follow the dog owner than deal with the dog' as Moses Kuria is more of an attack dog and it is better to focus on the handlers. his brief is to assist in diverting attention of Kenyans from the more pressing issues like the "Teachers strike", thieving Waiguru getting preferential treatment from the likes of Chirchir, etc. is it not telling that PORK went to South Africa for 24 hours instead of New York where UNGA is happening? the wasting of our taxes on advance teams that return empty handed? aaah a new 'nice' development ntv.nation.co.ke/news/politics/-/2725580/2884656/-/b6wjo4z/-/index.htmlwhat is not known on who fixed Ruto to make it interesting now?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 1, 2015 17:10:56 GMT 3
This one is getting interesting. Now ICC wants to question Kuria, he has obliged and even given them options on exactly how to meet him. Even before Kuria is interrogated, the one thing coming out clearly from this saga is ICC is damned which way you look at it. By accepting to interrogate Kuria, the kangaroo court is admitting to a possibility of some shenanigans involving some top players in Kenya. The court is saying, we are not sure exactly what happened and would be interested in knowing via Kuria. Which gives credence to the view many of us have held that, the officers of the court slept on the job in as far as the Kenyan cases are concerned. On the other hand, if the court ignored Kuria and went on with business as usual, the argument will be made that the court is biased, compromised and lacking in objectivity and that it is protecting the real culprits. The movie just introduced a new theme. www.the-star.co.ke/news/icc-officials-meet-moses-kuria-over-confession-framing-rutoAs Kuria was briefing the media of the new developments, Martha Karua ran to court to gag him. Apparently Karua is concerned that Kuria is giving the public more than they could have bargained for. She wants the court to stop Kuria from linking her to procuring and coaching ICC witnesses. Whereas Karua's move maybe understandable from a legal perspective, it is playing into Kuria's hands politically. What exactly is she afraid of? If she is innocent as she claims, why cant she give us her side of the story and let Kuria give us his and we be the judge? When Kuria first Martha to ICC, she never denied the allegations, she instead attacked Ruto. The DP never respected her enough to respond to her, after which she ran to court. www.the-star.co.ke/news/moses-kuria-barred-linking-martha-karua-ruto-icc-case~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 8, 2015 17:09:55 GMT 3
When Moses Kuria started the now famous confessions, many thought he was he was mad and called him all kinds of names. But with each passing day, it is becoming ever so clear that we are a nation that needs to speak to and with itself. In my opinion, what is happening now, is what the TJRC failed to do, largely because it was hijacked by the same elements who messed up the ICC process (read, the evil society), individuals, who if any proper audit was to be done, will be found to have had a thing or two to do with the 'fixing' of the ICC individuals.
Personally, I was hoping that Martha Karua and particularly Raila Odinga would take the opportunity and cleanse themselves. Listening and watching to them, I am compelled to believe that Moses Kuria has started something that is leading us somewhere. He might have done it in the crudest of ways, but finally, people will talk.
~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by podp on Oct 8, 2015 22:05:47 GMT 3
When Moses Kuria started the now famous confessions, many thought he was he was mad and called him all kinds of names. But with each passing day, it is becoming ever so clear that we are a nation that needs to speak to and with itself. In my opinion, what is happening now, is what the TJRC failed to do, largely because it was hijacked by the same elements who messed up the ICC process (read, the evil society), individuals, who if any proper audit was to be done, will be found to have had a thing or two to do with the 'fixing' of the ICC individuals. Personally, I was hoping that Martha Karua and particularly Raila Odinga would take the opportunity and cleanse themselves. Listening and watching to them, I am compelled to believe that Moses Kuria has started something that is leading us somewhere. He might have done it in the crudest of ways, but finally, people will talk. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ snippets from Citizen after 9 pm news when 3 (Senator Murkomen, mPig Millie Odhiambo and Prof Kisiangani) had a take on ICC and ongoing reactions to the red high light Murkomen challenged RAO to write to ICC to withdraw the initial letter Anyang Nyongo wrote to ICC. Ruto and Sang are in great pain he says and wears a forlorn look to act as if the pain is also his. we should not have the kinds of mPig Millie turning this very serious debate into a pedestrian exchange. Millie Odhiambo says we stop the propaganda and lies which this time round they (CORD) will not let Jubilee repeat again and again like the time leading to 2013 election when many Kenyans from the other ethnicities still suffer from the scars of post election violence. quotes an example of a Homa County amputee who is now going blind as he seeks kshs 10,000 to start some business to sustain his wasted life. those are the kind of people Murkomen and fellow choir members should be praying for. this debate is irrelevant says Prof. Kisiangani. what local processes has Jubilee as ruling party put in place to take care of post election violence victims instead of suffocating us with 2 individuals imagined woes at the Hague? if you say Ruto was fixed who fixed Sang? who fixed Kenyatta, Ali and Muthaura? we are not going anywhere with the debate of who fixed who. however if the intention is to destroy Kenya then neither Murkomen and his Jubilee brigade or Millie and CORD will be spared however much money they may have. healing and reconciliation will not come by Jubilee moving in Kalenjin and Kikuyu strongholds pretending they are praying while in reality they are polarizing Kenyans. going pedestrian as if ICC is a fish market is laughable for a lawyer of Murkomen's calibre Mlllie charges. she feels ashamed that Murkomen can say they were duped and that they did not know ICC would turn out to be what they are witnessing now. people who should be feeling pain should be RAO and Millie plus ODM brigade says Murkomen. instead of moving towards people who caused the violence we were duped to accept ICC cries Murkomen Prof says healing and reconciliation with 2017 elections. there is nothing we can do but allow the court process at ICC to go to an end. this blame game, between CORD and Jubilee. do not pray only for 2 Kenyans but also for the victims for example the people shot in Kisumu, the Kiambaa church survivors, the Naivasha victims. the dead, alive and all victims should be prayed for not only 2 Kenyans Murkomen wants ICC cases closed. Ruto and Sang should be left alone to heal from the pain of having been fixed. says Kibaki came out clearly and exonerated Kenyatta, Ali and Muthaura from the accusation of crimes against humanity. RAO should also come out and do a Kibaki act on Ruto and Sang. now that both Jubilee and CORD are saing Ruto was fixed, it is a great development. Kalenjins will never fight again with Kikuyus vowing the two will stay together come rain come sunshine. Millie encourages Murkomen to calm down so that the country moves forward. stop the propaganda pretending you are praying as even her she is saved. we are more than 2 tribes. so do not reduce us to debating Kikuyus and Kalenjins as if that is the whole of Kenya
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Post by kamalet on Oct 9, 2015 15:19:16 GMT 3
Is it just me or has anyone noticed how this character called Prof Kisiangani comments on anything and everything? He was first introduced to us as a political analyst...then takes up the cap from Malkiat Singh and speaks on virtually any topic that Citizen has with a very serious look like that is to convince us he knows what he is talking about. A good case in point was the ICC debate with Murkomen and Millie - I would have expected an intellectual intercourse removed from the politics of Murkomen and Millie. Sadly he sounded very much like Mbandi or Kuria!
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 5, 2016 19:42:03 GMT 3
The curtains have finally come down. As Kenyans who believed in justice and fair trial, we shall never forgive the ICC and her benefactors and beneficiaries both at home, Hague and abroad. The ICC has failed miserably to serve justice to both victims and suspects alike. Even as we gather at Afraha Stadium on April 16th, for thanksgiving, prayer and reconciliation, it will never be lost upon us what ICC has visited to us as a nation, as a people.
~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by kamalet on Apr 6, 2016 9:27:45 GMT 3
The curtains have finally come down. As Kenyans who believed in justice and fair trial, we shall never forgive the ICC and her benefactors and beneficiaries both at home, Hague and abroad. The ICC has failed miserably to serve justice to both victims and suspects alike. Even as we gather at Afraha Stadium on April 16th, for thanksgiving, prayer and reconciliation, it will never be lost upon us what ICC has visited to us as a nation, as a people. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ The sad bit about the discharging of Ruto and Sang is that the ICC had promised victims that justice would be done. Justice was certainly done by the court in terminating the case against the duo for lack of sufficient evidence. The party the victims should be angry with is the prosecutor and his NGO hactivists who screwed up the case to settle political scores.
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 6, 2016 18:52:57 GMT 3
Sadiq and his sometimes side kick Kamalet, have surfaced from hibernation with fangs of much venom bared! The hapless victim unto whose body these will be sunk is that of Njakip. A special thread has been set up to bash Mr. Moonki, who appears to be a Njakip clone. There is murky family issues there, and I will give it a wide berth. -What with oedipal complexes and all? Mwalimu Mkuu on the other hand takes a wider view. But even there, there is something I want to warn against. You say: 1. The ICC has failed miserably to serve justice to both victims and suspects alike.For those who understand the skulduggery in international fora, the idea of outsourcing Justice to international bodies controlled by forces of no loyalty to that people, would look to be the choice of morons. Don't be vague, lets go to the Hague!? That was always a sheep bleating with its exhaust. Any goat worth its pride would say No No No No NOOOO! I will do my justice at home, corrupt courts, crooked lawyers, even more crooked detectives and all. That Kenyans, going by opinion polls, put their hopes in the far away court, is an indictment of something we have not yet dared face. May be a moral collapse of the Kenyan state, citizens left out of trust. 2. As Kenyans who believed in justice and fair trial, we shall never forgive the ICC and her benefactors and beneficiaries both at home, Hague and abroad.SUCH Kenyans have been taught a harsh lesson in international politics then. Powers are ruthless imperial practitioners, and one must bethink the possibility of the Jubilee flagbearers having been bent behind the scenes. For instance in the Asia pivot of Obama's USA -going by the aggressiveness by which the USA is pushing countries like Malaysia against their own interests, to go against China (---to sign up to military exercises simulating the locking up of the straights controlling the shipping lanes In to the south china sea, and into famous Chinese ports), I do not see how the USA could have missed this wonderful opportunity to offer Ruto and Uhuru a deal they could not reject. Added to a reading of the geo-political strategy of the USA in Africa in the coming half a century, I would wager my best instincts the USA dealt a hand.3. Even as we gather at Afraha Stadium on April 16th, for thanksgiving, prayer and reconciliation, it will never be lost upon us what ICC has visited to us as a nation, as a people. Whether we read it as the Kenyan people or Kalenjin people, it a loaded statement. You see Gikuyu nationalists could say, it will never be lost upon us what the Kalenjin visited to us as a nation, as a people! (Kiambaa church and ethnic cleansing and all!) But I always do forget this: wherefrom, actually, did the ferocity of 2007/2008 come from? What I am sure of, is that foreigners (or foreign courts) had nothing to do with the causes! Methinks what is eating us --a s the Swahili say, kiko rohoni yetu--- is within our own souls, our own court of arms, within our concept of statehood and veil of Kenyanness.
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Post by kamalet on Apr 7, 2016 9:29:14 GMT 3
1. The ICC has failed miserably to serve justice to both victims and suspects alike.For those who understand the skulduggery in international fora, the idea of outsourcing Justice to international bodies controlled by forces of no loyalty to that people, would look to be the choice of morons. Don't be vague, lets go to the Hague!? That was always a sheep bleating with its exhaust. Any goat worth its pride would say No No No No NOOOO! I will do my justice at home, corrupt courts, crooked lawyers, even more crooked detectives and all. That Kenyans, going by opinion polls, put their hopes in the far away court, is an indictment of something we have not yet dared face. May be a moral collapse of the Kenyan state, citizens left out of trust. I am not sure I even need to tuck my tongue in the cheek when saying this - but we have vilified the lot that said 'Don't be vague, let us go to the Hague'. I now think they were right in their statements as they wanted the RIGHT people taken to the Hague where I now think there would have been justice with truthful evidence if these RIGHT people had been arraigned in that court!
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 9, 2016 17:47:47 GMT 3
1. The ICC has failed miserably to serve justice to both victims and suspects alike.For those who understand the skulduggery in international fora, the idea of outsourcing Justice to international bodies controlled by forces of no loyalty to that people, would look to be the choice of morons. Don't be vague, lets go to the Hague!? That was always a sheep bleating with its exhaust. Any goat worth its pride would say No No No No NOOOO! I will do my justice at home, corrupt courts, crooked lawyers, even more crooked detectives and all. That Kenyans, going by opinion polls, put their hopes in the far away court, is an indictment of something we have not yet dared face. May be a moral collapse of the Kenyan state, citizens left out of trust. I am not sure I even need to tuck my tongue in the cheek when saying this - but we have vilified the lot that said 'Don't be vague, let us go to the Hague'. I now think they were right in their statements as they wanted the RIGHT people taken to the Hague where I now think there would have been justice with truthful evidence if these RIGHT people had been arraigned in that court! Kamale, you could not have been more right. Although I understand where our friend Jakaswanga is coming from, it should be important to put the 'don't be vague' chorus into perspective. When many of us held this view, the believe was that it was too easy to buy one's way out of Mutunga's courts (Kidero just did it if you believe the little journalist from Marakwet), and therefore, there was need to deal with PEV suspects away from such a court. The ICC was the perfect pick given its place and stature, or so we believed. It never occurred to anyone then, that the ICC was actually a shopping mall for the Njakip's of this world. No one ever imagined that such a court actually has judges with the shallowest understandings of the law and the wider context of the court. We never fathomed the fact that, ICC cases are actually determined long before any evidence is collected. In short, we never imagined that our own Makadara is far much better than ICC in both theory and practice. Now we know, NEVER AGAIN, I say. No one made the case better than Uhuru in Paris a couple of days ago. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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