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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 22, 2014 11:36:58 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 22, 2014 11:43:49 GMT 3
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 22, 2014 19:59:37 GMT 3
Raila Amollo Odinga’s greatness will escape many a contemporary, but it is a worthy introspective feat, to indulge ones senses on the topic. I want to say, that even for me, I am pretty ambiguous about this fact. Few men who have sacrificed for it, and Raila indisputably has, would let power be stolen from them this easily. And rare as the rarest metal it is, in the history power, to find a normal man worth his salt, who let it happen to him twice in succession. And now especially after by universal suffrage the people gave him the mandate to rule, and he has the moral high ground. Therefore at a first unconsidered take, Raila is a weakling, an incurable weakling. The insufferable boy-goat at the playfield whose mandazi a bully would snatch, and if he dared complain, would be beaten to pulp in addition, and kicked to scamper off with a limp, nose and mouth openly flowing. Forgetting Kibaki’s 2007/8 ill at Raila for a moment, here comes Uhuru Kenyatta who becomes the beneficiary of Raila's stolen victory, then castigates him for a coup plotter, moving swiftly to humiliate him by exorcism from state largesse accorded to former principals, like body guards. But in the Long Term, Raila’s Christian acceptance, and apparent meek turning of the other cheek twice in a row, a benevolence, is exactly the sacrifice which has prevented Kenya from tearing herself apart and going the civil strife way ---like all those other African countries you can mention. Raila’s, has been a dilemma that decides the fate of a nation. On his shoulders rested the decision to catapult Kenya to chaos, and he chose otherwise. Another can always argue he lost his nerve, and certified himself a coward. But we have seen what a driven ambition, or a headstrong refusal to turn the other cheek, can precipitate in a country. It is Riak Machar vs Salvar Kiir. And a collapsed national dream. I do not expect many commentators busy with the short-term, to bethink the depths of the sacrifice this son of Odinga has had to make, to turn the other cheek as his rightful place at the helm of society is denied by raw crime. Perhaps one needs to have a close experience of nations that have convulsed in civil strife, to have an idea of what the nation has been saved, and what calibre I takes to prevent strife or dread war in a country. We of course had a taste of possibilities in 2008 PEV. Uhuru Kenyatta must do his all to heal Kenya. That must be his curse for the theft. And the only way to exorcise the demons of his crime and cleanse his amoral heart, is to initiate and run a rampant growth rate, wiping out youth unemployment.A thief must not boast, neither in gait nor in words. And Uhuru Kenyatta must reign in rogue dogs like Francis Kimemia who, to indulge his bestial instincts, concocted a particularly savage humiliation of the former prime minister ---denying him, and later his wife too, the use of a washroom at the airport. Do not let the fools who constitute your court of power ever tempt fate like that again, Mr. President. Your legitimacy is threadbare. But well, it was never you who really rigged the election. It was rigged for you. And I better address myself to those who own you, Mr. Puppet President. Chinua the Great Achebe once mused in a legendary couplet, that the whiteman came and put a knife on the things that held us together, and punglu pangla apart we fell. I say Kenya’s social fabric is brittle, Uhuru, do not throw too many flares at it, it could just catch a fire. We can not move on, if humiliation is a daily ritual, when insult is daily added to injury, and old wounds ever ripped open so savagely. Then, does a malignant core begin to form in the heart of a land, and begin to patiently abide time. Working at construction [as of everlasting peace], is a good thing. |
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Post by OtishOtish on Apr 23, 2014 6:35:37 GMT 3
Jakaswanga:
I don't know whether the elections were stolen or not; but, yes, the traditional, manly African way is to take what you once called the Samson Option. The Rebel Army as a solution to the youth-unemployment problem? Anyways ... in my lifetime, elections on The Beloved Continent have always been about rigging, bribery, murder and assorted violence ... all sorts of mischief and nastiness. And always for Our Man: if he is eating, then we too eat vicariously even if we are starving. Even in Kenya---Island in Ocean of Chaos, Economic Powerhouse of East Africa, and Safari-Tourist Paradise---2002 was the exception, rather than the norm. On what basis did anyone really expect otherwise in 2013?
Oh, I don't see HE President Uhuru doing anything of the sort you suggest. Too un-African, too un-manly. But perhaps he could give warnings and ultimatums? Then maybe repeat them? Wajipange! And nobody's wife to manga-manga!
Anyways .... the state of the continent, which is the Bigger Picture. I await your extensive Digital Essay, long overdue, on South Sudan and the CAR.
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Post by kamalet on Apr 23, 2014 13:38:44 GMT 3
The reception to the 'expose' by the Jicho Pevu guys has been muted and this is because the Kenyan people may have lost interest in the election debate. My own opinion is that the entire expose was watered down by the inclusion of the 'other side' of the story. The original expose was a carbon copy of the now publicised ODM investigation that the media was talking about and which was on a one-sided story. The complete debunking of the hacking story which was the basis for all the ODM noise where the expert Jicho Pevu spoke to clearly shows that the alleged hacking was a hatchet job rather than anything worth thinking about!
I will not pursue the rumour regarding Raila's extended visit which is now alleged to have been timed to coincide with the televising of the expose......
Kenyans seem to have 'moved on'!
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Post by moja on Apr 23, 2014 19:51:55 GMT 3
kamalet is an IDIOT
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 23, 2014 23:02:33 GMT 3
Jakaswanga: I don't know whether the elections were stolen or not; but, yes, the traditional, manly African way is to take what you once called the Samson Option. The Rebel Army as a solution to the youth-unemployment problem? Anyways ... in my lifetime, elections on The Beloved Continent have always been about rigging, bribery, murder and assorted violence ... all sorts of mischief and nastiness. And always for Our Man: if he is eating, then we too eat vicariously even if we are starving. Even in Kenya---Island in Ocean of Chaos, Economic Powerhouse of East Africa, and Safari-Tourist Paradise---2002 was the exception, rather than the norm. On what basis did anyone really expect otherwise in 2013? Oh, I don't see HE President Uhuru doing anything of the sort you suggest. Too un-African, too un-manly. But perhaps he could give warnings and ultimatums? Then maybe repeat them? Wajipange! And nobody's wife to manga-manga! Anyways .... the state of the continent, which is the Bigger Picture. I await your extensive Digital Essay, long overdue, on South Sudan and the CAR. Do not joke! South Sudan and CAR? Extensive digitals!? Man, did you not know I only do Africa part time! –I specialise in the ancient tribes of Europe! Though I have extensive knowledge of Nollywood movies, since to prevent Mrs. Jakaswanga from mangamangaring, Nollywood is my great evening pastime, aka quality time together! By the way I am happy William Ruto did not beg the pardon of his excellency! Strange as it may seem, even established bourgeois democracies have a lot of problems when it comes to free and fair voting, and fair results. ---You know this word ‘’gerrymandering’’? It is a method of pre-concluding the results of an election! Creating a permanent tyranny of numbers as it were. Kamalet says Kenyans have moved on. I wish I could sleep in peace like him. Nations have exploded into violence, and when you hear people tell the tales of their grievance, some date 500 years! The institutional memory of culture must never be underestimated. I saw some Mau Mau veterans the other day in England seeking compensation in their old age about crimes done to them in early 50s. Some guys do not just move on! Non Christians, they bide time and plot revenge. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 24, 2014 3:36:58 GMT 3
The reception to the 'expose' by the Jicho Pevu guys has been muted and this is because the Kenyan people may have lost interest in the election debate. My own opinion is that the entire expose was watered down by the inclusion of the 'other side' of the story. The original expose was a carbon copy of the now publicised ODM investigation that the media was talking about and which was on a one-sided story. The complete debunking of the hacking story which was the basis for all the ODM noise where the expert Jicho Pevu spoke to clearly shows that the alleged hacking was a hatchet job rather than anything worth thinking about! I will not pursue the rumour regarding Raila's extended visit which is now alleged to have been timed to coincide with the televising of the expose...... Kenyans seem to have 'moved on'! 'Idiot' Kamale, a very poor job by the so called investigative journalists. Even the usual Raila choir maestros, except our own Oloo of course going by his excitement on this post, could not hide their disappointment. They ended up labeling the 'expose' as a censored and/or edited version, which to me was euphemism for bogus or bure kabisa in Kibaki's words. Like the chairman himself Mr. Hassan advised Allan Namu at the end of the recording, I would urge the two amigos to find something better to do, as it is they are wasting time looking for a needle in a haystack, a needle that did not fall in the haystack to begin with. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ |
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Post by mzee on Apr 25, 2014 21:58:14 GMT 3
Bwana Onyango Oloo wuod Gem, After reading your article, watching Jicho Pevu and other sources of information, Im now more than convinced beyond no reasonable doubt that the elections were stolen outright by Uhuru and his mobsters. This issue is not a laughing matter is a thing that might haunt kenya for the next 100 years. By the way, this is not about Raila for those of you about to open your mouths on what I have written and start shouting RAO. Its about Kenya. Its about honesty. Its about integrity. Stealing is not anything to be proud of even if its your father, mother, brother, tribesman perpetrating it. You cant be proud of theft because it has affected your worst enemy. Thats my warning to some jukwaa members who are proud to be associated with theft and thieves. Sometimes you have to rise above pettiness. |
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 28, 2014 13:41:46 GMT 3
I watched both of the Jicho Pevu episodes on the election and was underwhelmed. There is a lot of stuff that was not covered comprehensively. Repeating the story would not be of much help.
Now to Kamale. It seems like he watched the 'IT expert' from East African Data handlers offer his own opinion and he swallowed it hook line & sinker. First, the East African Data handlers guy is not a domain expert on databases. He generally handles the salvaging of data from damaged media and does nothing related to databases. The first thing that confirms that is his central dispute, the log file size. He said that a log file size of 51200 K was too small for a the IEBC. He clearly confused log file size with the overall database size two vastly different things.
Second, anybody who has ever worked with an Oracle database will clearly tell you that the sample of the file that was shown on Jicho Pevu was a file called the Alert.log, from a brief look you can tell the version of the Database and whatever activities were being undertaken in the database, for the expert to go ahead and claim that it was an SQL database (probably means SQL server), shows that he was clearly out of his depth in all matters database. I would entrust him to recover lost data in my media but cannot entrust him to give me database advice. And yes, I have worked with the Oracle database for over 10 years.
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 28, 2014 19:43:05 GMT 3
Jakaswanga: I don't know whether the elections were stolen or not; but, yes, the traditional, manly African way is to take what you once called the Samson Option. The Rebel Army as a solution to the youth-unemployment problem? Anyways ... in my lifetime, elections on The Beloved Continent have always been about rigging, bribery, murder and assorted violence ... all sorts of mischief and nastiness. And always for Our Man: if he is eating, then we too eat vicariously even if we are starving. Even in Kenya---Island in Ocean of Chaos, Economic Powerhouse of East Africa, and Safari-Tourist Paradise---2002 was the exception, rather than the norm. On what basis did anyone really expect otherwise in 2013? Oh, I don't see HE President Uhuru doing anything of the sort you suggest. Too un-African, too un-manly. But perhaps he could give warnings and ultimatums? Then maybe repeat them? Wajipange! And nobody's wife to manga-manga!Anyways .... the state of the continent, which is the Bigger Picture. I await your extensive Digital Essay, long overdue, on South Sudan and the CAR. Otishotish, that business of maleness, machismo in politics, is not confined to ''African man'' only! Take a look! ALPHA MALES VS REAL MALES! OBAMA’S MANHOOD PROBLEM vs Putin & Assad! watch David Brooks of the New York Times, during NBC’s meet the press session, said Obama has a manhood problem as POTUS, –He does not have the balls to stand up to a man like Assad, and definitely not Vladimir Putin. He, I paraphrase, is weak, ineffectual, indecisive, and therefore driving America into a season of ritual humiliations overseas! The empire must assert its power, continue to awe and ooze global dominance! Iron Balls! A rapacious manhood! Fareed Zakaria, columnist of the Time, but better known as CNN anchor of the GPS program, in effect a leading exporter of the American Brand of Bad but still the best by far in a bad neighborhood called the Planet Earth ---that is American exceptionalism by other words, was so enraged at the crude stupidity of NYT Brooks, that he felt compelled to quip a rejoinder in the now CIA  paper Washington Times. He does not think Syria and the Ukraine are, I paraphrase, a ball game. Walker Dubya had them oversize if war is the measure, still Putin dismembered Georgia and barred her from NATO. International politics as a clash of testosterone-charged balls! Intriguing insight! I intend to import this American manly model and use it to map ethnic politics in Kenya, instead of the usual cut or uncut measurement of manhood. How much balls do Kalonzo, Raila, Weta, Uhuru, Ruto, Duale have? Does Raila still have the balls to face Uhuru? And when Uhuru told Ruto bibi asimangemange, did Ruto have a manhood problem that he took it lying down? There seems to be an epidemic of manhood problems inflicting world leaders! The world is a mess because politics is a ball game! Time it became a head game! But that, I guess, is still quite a long shot! |
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Post by kamalet on Apr 29, 2014 10:52:53 GMT 3
I watched both of the Jicho Pevu episodes on the election and was underwhelmed. There is a lot of stuff that was not covered comprehensively. Repeating the story would not be of much help. Now to Kamale. It seems like he watched the 'IT expert' from East African Data handlers offer his own opinion and he swallowed it hook line & sinker. First, the East African Data handlers guy is not a domain expert on databases. He generally handles the salvaging of data from damaged media and does nothing related to databases. The first thing that confirms that is his central dispute, the log file size. He said that a log file size of 51200 K was too small for a the IEBC. He clearly confused log file size with the overall database size two vastly different things. Second, anybody who has ever worked with an Oracle database will clearly tell you that the sample of the file that was shown on Jicho Pevu was a file called the Alert.log, from a brief look you can tell the version of the Database and whatever activities were being undertaken in the database, for the expert to go ahead and claim that it was an SQL database (probably means SQL server), shows that he was clearly out of his depth in all matters database. I would entrust him to recover lost data in my media but cannot entrust him to give me database advice. And yes, I have worked with the Oracle database for over 10 years. Luoldeng When it comes to matters Databases, I think I have an idea as that is what I earn my living from! Kamale |
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 30, 2014 13:42:15 GMT 3
I watched both of the Jicho Pevu episodes on the election and was underwhelmed. There is a lot of stuff that was not covered comprehensively. Repeating the story would not be of much help. Now to Kamale. It seems like he watched the 'IT expert' from East African Data handlers offer his own opinion and he swallowed it hook line & sinker. First, the East African Data handlers guy is not a domain expert on databases. He generally handles the salvaging of data from damaged media and does nothing related to databases. The first thing that confirms that is his central dispute, the log file size. He said that a log file size of 51200 K was too small for a the IEBC. He clearly confused log file size with the overall database size two vastly different things. Second, anybody who has ever worked with an Oracle database will clearly tell you that the sample of the file that was shown on Jicho Pevu was a file called the Alert.log, from a brief look you can tell the version of the Database and whatever activities were being undertaken in the database, for the expert to go ahead and claim that it was an SQL database (probably means SQL server), shows that he was clearly out of his depth in all matters database. I would entrust him to recover lost data in my media but cannot entrust him to give me database advice. And yes, I have worked with the Oracle database for over 10 years. Luoldeng When it comes to matters Databases, I think I have an idea as that is what I earn my living from! Kamale Absolutely nothing was debunked, any database admin with more than 1 week training will tell you that the 'expert' was completely out of his depth. He has recovered lost data for our organisation and I've recommended his firm to clients outside Kenya. But again, databases and detecting fraud in databases is not his area. |
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Post by phil on Apr 30, 2014 16:35:21 GMT 3
I watched both of the Jicho Pevu episodes on the election and was underwhelmed. There is a lot of stuff that was not covered comprehensively. Repeating the story would not be of much help. Now to Kamale. It seems like he watched the 'IT expert' from East African Data handlers offer his own opinion and he swallowed it hook line & sinker. First, the East African Data handlers guy is not a domain expert on databases. He generally handles the salvaging of data from damaged media and does nothing related to databases. The first thing that confirms that is his central dispute, the log file size. He said that a log file size of 51200 K was too small for a the IEBC. He clearly confused log file size with the overall database size two vastly different things. Second, anybody who has ever worked with an Oracle database will clearly tell you that the sample of the file that was shown on Jicho Pevu was a file called the Alert.log, from a brief look you can tell the version of the Database and whatever activities were being undertaken in the database, for the expert to go ahead and claim that it was an SQL database (probably means SQL server), shows that he was clearly out of his depth in all matters database. I would entrust him to recover lost data in my media but cannot entrust him to give me database advice. And yes, I have worked with the Oracle database for over 10 years. Forget about kamaletThe Jicho Pevu expose was only broadcast because KTN feared losing Allan Namu and Mohammed Ali who threatened to terminate their contracts if the documentary was not run. What I can tell you is the raw unedited version containing damning interviews with IEBC commissioners, equipment suppliers and two judges of the supreme court were carefully edited and removed from the documentary in order to preserve the integrity of the election and the election of the president who is beneficiary of 1.2 million votes not accounted for by the IEBC. It will clearly indicate how the BVR and EVID equipment were intended not to work on voting day, and how the decision to go manual was quickly reached, with consensus from moles on the CORD side. (One of the CORD moles missed out on being appointed LAPSETT chairman and Muthaura was recalled from retirement after Jubilee coalition failed to agree). The raw version also reveals in clear pattern how the presidential tally was manipulated to top up someone's vote in order to avoid a run-off. The other IEBC commissioner had his resignation letter rejected and the supreme court judges threatened when they decided to make a rulling for a run-off. They were told it was a round 1 victory OR nothing!! Its all there on tape!!! Give it time, it will be uploaded. The raw version shall be uploaded here to Jukwaa and you will be able to see how KTN editorial board played with the intelligence of Kenyans. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 18:29:09 GMT 3
THIS
FOLLOWED BY THIS. FUNNY THAT EH?
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 2, 2014 2:44:40 GMT 3
Kathure,
I have this bad feeling that CORD might have attempted some monkey games during the last election but were nipped in the bud. There is some hidden story in that Jichopevu 'expose'. That Oswago interview particularly, tells a very, very long story. I hope I am wrong.
... and by the way, what does the story of that spoilt young man of the Sholleis got to do with this?
~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~
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Post by podp on May 3, 2014 20:24:18 GMT 3
Secondly, Mr Itumbi makes intriguing disclosures in the broadcast portion of his interview. He states that TNA hired both Kencall’s facilities and personnel. If I understood his assertions correctly, Mr Itumbi stated that TNA paid for and used suites located in Kencall’s offices and had Kencall staff monitor, receive and dispatch their election results – essentially the same services Kencall was providing to the IEBC. In his Presidential Petition, Mr Odinga had alleged that Kencall had used a single IP address 196.1.26.40 for both the IEBC and Mr Kenyatta’s TNA. Mr Odinga’s lawyers asserted that Kencall director, Alexander Nesbitt, “did not deny the fact that both the IEBC and TNA were hosted and operated on a single IP address.” When asked about this in the Jicho Pevu interview, Mr Itumbi retorted that it is akin to saying that “just because both Mr Kenyatta and Mr Odinga have Gmail emails provided by Google doesn’t mean that they can read each other’s mail.” However, what he omitted to say is that Google can actually read both gentlemen’s emails. Now, considering the fact that Kencall – purely out of pecuniary interest and greed (or was there something more sinister?)- had allowed itself to become an employee or contractor of TNA by not just ‘contracting out consulting services’ but by having some of its staff work for TNA out of its offices where it was also rendering the same services to the IEBC, why wouldn’t it be reasonable for anyone to have a reasonable apprehension that Kencall’s twin roles smacked of serious conflicts of interests? I supported Jubilee in 2013. As such, I’m contented with the presidential election outcome. However, it would be unconscionable for me to refuse to acknowledge legitimate points raised by Jicho Pevu. It’s much better to do everything in our power to retire all lingering doubts about the credibility of the elections rather than let it fester like a running sore. www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-165541/was-jicho-pevu-sexed-or-are-we-denialit never is nice to sweep dirt under the carpet |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 0:40:00 GMT 3
Kathure, ... and by the way, what does the story of that spoilt young man of the Sholleis got to do with this? ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ Hey mwalimu @ nyumba kubwa! How's life at the big house on the hill overlooking the biggest slum in Africa. Fantastic scenery you have from that house no? Anyways, i have no clue if Shollei's boys are spoilt, I don't know them. Do you know them? Surely you must given the certainity with which you speak of them. As for any connections between the two stories I posted, and given the good lamb chops you chow down at the house, your noggin should be in a position to grasp the connections. Try using that well fed noggin of yours sometime. ama? |
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