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Post by b6k on Dec 2, 2014 9:01:37 GMT 3
By NATION REPORTER 36 people were early Tuesday shot dead at Koromei, about 15 minutes drive from Mandera town. Victims were sleeping in tents at a quarry during the 1am attack. MORE TO FOLLOW: www.nation.co.ke/counties/36-people-shot-dead-in-fresh-Mandera-attack/-/1107872/2541682/-/70mayr/-/index.htmlA Red Cross official on the other hand gave details on K24 that the attack happened at 4 Am this morning. The quarry is in Kormay in the vicinity of Arabia. You will remember that Arabia was the region just outside of Mandera that the bus attack that killed 28 took place not too long ago. This puts to question whether the counter-offensive KDF attack that killed 100 or so Al Shabaab militants, according to DP WSR, really neutralized their capability to strike KE again... |
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 2, 2014 20:17:58 GMT 3
Very, very shocking. After the first attack, there should have been a real security operation in the area, not the Ruto/KDF "killing" of hundreds of imaginary terrorists and the destruction of virtual camps and "technicals".
Looking back to the Mkepetoni attack, what is happening right now is hardly surprising. Then the terrorists had a tough time getting "credit" for their heinous deeds, because GoK insisted it belonged to Kenyans. So, instead of doing what needed to be done, a "terrorist governor" was arrested, locked up for a couple of days, and that was that. The alleged case against the governor---case "supported with solid intelligence"---quietly evaporated, and Mkepetoni was forgotten.
Listen to H.E. Rais (also Dr.) at 0:20-0:35:
Then, listen again, with a "historical ear", to 0:46-1:10! Later, there is even a good bit about how incompetent security types will be dealt with.
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 2, 2014 21:25:59 GMT 3
Looking back to the Mkepetoni attack, what is happening right now is hardly surprising. Then the terrorists had a tough time getting "credit" for their heinous deeds, because GoK insisted it belonged to Kenyans. So, instead of doing what needed to be done, a " terrorist governor" was arrested, locked up for a couple of days, and that was that. The alleged case against the governor---case "supported with solid intelligence"---quietly evaporated, and Mkepetoni was forgotten. A "leading expert" already has a theory for this one: "Mandera attacks are CHOREOGRAPHED. Expect more. Intention: Increase the ANGER. End Result: IMPEACH UHURU. Beneficiary: Read the constitution" |
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 2, 2014 21:32:25 GMT 3
A couple of things have struck me in relation to the "Patriot-Act" debate: (a) The notion that NIS needs more powers because the police never acts on the intelligence that is provided. This is a claim sometimes made by the NIS itself but only when there is failure somewhere, and in such cases the police will in turn claim that it received inadequate intelligence. Otherwise, the NIS is happy to claim that its intelligence has helped the police foil some would-be terrorists attacks. (b) What is happening around Mandera right now and how many warnings there have been in the past that the whole area is a huge disaster waiting to happen. Some time ago while poking around in the Internet Archive, I came across what was claimed to be a summary of some things at the highest levels of Kenya's "intelligence services". I thought today that I should review the document to see what it has on Mandera. Folks are free to debate its authenticity###, but I urge a careful reading anyway, e.g. of * what it says of Mandera and such areas, * "challenges" (near the end of the report), and * the "way forward" (also near the end). Interesting stuff. Situation reports that range from very specific "now X and Y and about to do so over there" to some very vague "today they will attack everyone and everything in all towns and cities" ... List of "we prevented this one and that one", etc. Whatever the questions about its authenticity, the report has been around, publicly, for a little over one year, and what it says about Mandera etc. can be evaluated on that basis. The report: ia601007.us.archive.org/27/items/800531-kenyashabaabfile/800531-kenyashabaabfile.pdf________________________________________________________________________ ###: After a careful reading and a consideration of the implications ... I would not be surprised if this turned out to be an authentic document---as in "real", which is not necessarily "true"---self-servingly leaked by none other than the NIS, which in a couple of instances has retroactively made the "intelligence" neatly fit what had already happened. I read it mostly for what it has to say on the future (at the time). |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 2, 2014 21:49:21 GMT 3
Kenyatta being a politician, his instincts must be to play politics. Nkaissery is an ODMer, and a MPig. The jubilee doctrine was, cabinet secretaries are to be sourced out to 'civilians', Ngilu and Balala having been expedient and unavoidable rewards, also to buttress bakamba and perceived coastal support. The nomination of Nkaissery is therefore readbale as full of mischief.
1. Did he consult with the ODM fraternity, or is this a roadside broadside as --our lost brother-- Omwenga would have it? A blatant attempt to weakening by poaching an opposition stalwart and use him, simultaneously, to buy goodwill for Jubilee in his grassroots area (where the fallen Lenku hails)? A bandage of a stone that kills two birds at a go?
2. William Ruto has made it repeatedly clear there is no room for a coalition government. When Raila talked of dialogue, Jubilee kingpins laughed, saying Agwambo was angling for cabinet posts, which would under no circumstances be availed. So are them government guys eating their words today?
3. This can also be read as an opening gambit for the rejected dialogue with CORD! In which case Kenyatta would be wisening up, to the fact that the Jubilee social base, regardless of all hype of the tyranny of numbers, is too narrow to face the security situation as it now unfolds. Security is an important docket, surrendering it to the opposition is brave --even desperate, but clearly, a statement of yes, a coalition government is negotiable. Come we talk.
NB: It is a dangerous admission of inaptitude and failure for the commander in chief to look for a General, retired or not, from the much-dismissed opposition benches, to hold the national fort against marauders from across and abroad. It means within the government side, only minions and incompetent buffoons are on the cards.
4. The terrorism is Shabab by all intelligence available. Shababus are the army's cup of tea. It is the KDF stirring the hornet's nest across, and failing to deal with the dispersed wasps. It aint a Kenyan Police primary responsibility. So Kimaiyo is an easy pick to sacrifice; the real incompetent man is of course the leader of KDF, the Dr. General Jules Karangi. --His army is in Somali pacifying terrorists, well, he has left the belly of kenya wide open for terrorist massacres!
Karangi never heard of protecting ones flanks as his forces surge ahead! You saw him in action at Westgate, you think he is any better in Somaila proper?
But he is too powerful to sack! And the son of Jomo better beware the limits of prince's power, even if a make-believe president.
ODM should say: Sack Karangi, and replace him with Nkaissery! Ole Lenku was always a zero anyway. That way ODM finds out if Kenyatta is playing politis with Nkaissery, or he really means business.
You want skull-breakers from Kalenjin land to replace the fallen Kimaiyo? ever heard of Cheramboss or retired major Koech? --Even Hussein Ali's reign would be peanuts!
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 2, 2014 22:04:38 GMT 3
By NATION REPORTER 36 people were early Tuesday shot dead at Koromei, about 15 minutes drive from Mandera town. Victims were sleeping in tents at a quarry during the 1am attack. MORE TO FOLLOW: www.nation.co.ke/counties/36-people-shot-dead-in-fresh-Mandera-attack/-/1107872/2541682/-/70mayr/-/index.htmlA Red Cross official on the other hand gave details on K24 that the attack happened at 4 Am this morning. The quarry is in Kormay in the vicinity of Arabia. You will remember that Arabia was the region just outside of Mandera that the bus attack that killed 28 took place not too long ago. This puts to question whether the counter-offensive KDF attack that killed 100 or so Al Shabaab militants, according to DP WSR, really neutralized their capability to strike KE again... Of late I do not take Ruto's political utterances seriously. You see the man is working on a Phd thesis at Chiromo, and that if genuine, is where his grey matter consumed. So if I want a measure of William Ruto doing some thinking and saying something, that thesis is where I will listen. But a man, even if a co-president, who thinks a movement like Shabab had her whole squadron waiting to die snoring, sleeping in full view of KDF fire, is obviously having his mind elsewhere. The statement of over 100 killed within 6 hours of the massacre was so stupid I ignored it. Because it would mean the KDF had let the massacre happen. --If they could locate and kill off the camp within a few hours of the attack and pursuit, they must have known and had prior intelligence of its existence and location; and it was within minumal aerial survey radius. (Ruto could not have been in posssession of his mind when he read us that 'body-bag' count!) |
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Post by OtishOtish on Dec 2, 2014 22:11:44 GMT 3
Of late I do not take Ruto's political utterances seriously. You see the man is working on a Phd thesis at Chiromo. If I want a measure of Ruto doing some thinking and saying something, thats where I will listen. A man who thinks a movement like Shabab was waiting to die in thier hundreds, sleeping in full view of KDF fire, is obviously having his mind elsewhere. The statement of over 100 killed within 6 hourse of the massacre was so stupid I ignored it. Because it would mean the KDF had let the massacre happen. --If they could locate and kill off the camp within a few hourse of the attack, they must have known and had prior intelligence of its existence, and it was within minumal aerial survey radius. (Ruto could not have been in posssession of his mind when he read us that 'body-bag' count!) Don't forget that another 49 then unwisely chose to return to that same area and suffered the same fate as their 100 friends. (That's an odd number to send on such a mission; I think it was initially supposed to be 50, but their leader claimed that was an "unlucky number" ... too "round" or something.) |
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Post by Omwenga on Dec 3, 2014 3:13:06 GMT 3
1. Did he consult with the ODM fraternity, or is this a roadside broadside as --our lost brother-- Omwenga would have it? ; yours truly is not "lost" but taking a much deserved leave of absence from the blogs and politics but is itching to resume at least his column, which he has been asked several times to resume and may do so soon and you know at least one or two of his enemies just emptied on the floor much of the content in their stomach upon reading this  |
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Post by jakaswanga on Dec 7, 2014 17:31:14 GMT 3
1. Did he consult with the ODM fraternity, or is this a roadside broadside as --our lost brother-- Omwenga would have it? ; yours truly is not "lost" but taking a much deserved leave of absence from the blogs and politics but is itching to resume at least his column, which he has been asked several times to resume and may do so soon and you know at least one or two of his enemies just emptied on the floor much of the content in their stomach upon reading this Very well Ori, glad to hear your silence has not been anything more serious than a 'deserved leave of absence!'. A rest, to reload, refresh and re-read (as Oloo would say after editing his posts!) is no bad thing. By the way I always remembere this run-away thread: IS THE IEBC ALREADY COMPROMISED? jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6770Now that it comes out they ate all that chicken  ,,,, Eh! Ori! |
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,,,, Eh! Ori!