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Post by job on Feb 19, 2008 6:53:17 GMT 3
Up the pressure, Maathai urges
Published on February 19, 2008, 12:00 am
By Evelyn Ogutu and Ngumbao Kithi
Former MP, Prof Wangari Maathai, has urged the international community to put more pressure on President Kibaki and ODM leader, Mr Raila Odinga, to speed up the search for a political settlement.
Maathai, who is also Nobel Peace Prize winner, criticised politicians allied to the Party of National Unity, saying they were TRIVIALIZING THE SUFFERING of Kenyans and playing politics with sensitive issues.
"It took the intervention of the international community for the political leadership to appeal to their supporters to stop the violence and give dialogue a chance. It is, therefore, unfair to criticise it and claim that it is interfering with internal affairs," she said.
The former MP said focus should now be on the National Dialogue and Reconciliation team and not on trivial matters. The responsibility of finding a solution, said Maathai, lies in the hands of the two mediating teams and their principals.
Maathai has also urged the Kofi Annan group of Eminent Persons mediating the political crisis to hold a MEETING BETWEEN KIBAKI AND RAILA instead of PNU and ODM representatives.
In an exclusive interview with The Standard, Maathai said the talks were now at a critical stage, and needed the two leaders to discuss the stalemate under the chairmanship of the former UN boss.
She said the TWO SHOULD COME UP WITH A DRAFT PROPOSAL, which should then be approved and signed by the mediators.
Meanwhile, a section of ODM MPs in Coast Province condemned members of PNU opposed to a power sharing deal.
MPs Mr Gideon Mung’aro (Malindi), Mr Amason Kingi (Magarini) and Mr Godana Gaddae (Galole) said leaders opposed to the deal are afraid of losing their Cabinet positions.
They demanded that PNU leaders put the interest of the country above their own.
Mung’aro said it was sad that some PNU Cabinet ministers were only worried about losing their posts.
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Post by job on Feb 19, 2008 7:23:44 GMT 3
I must support Prof. Maathai on this.
WHY SHOULD KOFI MEET KIBAKI AND RAILA ALONE TO SETTLE AGENDA #3 (POWER SHARING)
1) Time. With only three in a meeting, versus nine,.....a resolution can be arrived at sooner.....the longer IDPs remain in refugee camps, the more difficult their return is going to be, and the more difficult it will be to rehabilitate the victims.
The more hardliners sit in quasi-intellectual, legal and smart Aleck type discourses and shouting matches, the longer it takes,.....with only Kofi hearing from the horses own mouths then this can be wrapped up faster to begin the tougher jobs of reforming and rebuilding Kenya.
2) It is the two, Kibaki and Raila who need to bring their constituencies together for national reconciliation to truly begin....not akina karua or wetangula.
3) Multiplication of individual rivalries. It is kind of absurd to have (say) Wetangula to negotiate with Sally Kosgei in an arrangement that might infact realistically have the two swapping job places,...with wetangula losing his job to Sally. As Ruto sits across Karua, in their minds,...suspicious thoughts of one vying to replace the other in government could be real,....as mutula sits across orengo, thoughts of the two competing for the same influence are real. These proxies are thus real impediments to arriving at a real and practical settlement.
4) This kind of negotiation requires a top-down settlement and not bottom-up discussions which would be endless.
5) Kofi can manage to drive sense and common purpose into the minds of the two rather than the many paranoid proxies. kofi can manage to provide an environment where the two share their respective inherent fears and even strike first-hand deals that may be unknown to the public.
6) Other reasons.....
Lastly, someone needs to tell kibaki and raila that neither alone will guarantee security and protection to the lives and properties of returnee IDPs using non-native police and guns......
for instance importing non-native police into rift valley to 'guard' settlers is ridiculous.....
the best bet for sustainable and long lasting security and protection, lies in reconciliation via a political settlement.........the security secret lies in the 'hearts and souls' of natives and not imported guns and police. this applies in all provinces of kenya.
a political settlement leading to a new chapter via new constitution, other reforms, and fresh elections is just the way out.
Job
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Post by wakwitu on Feb 19, 2008 7:49:42 GMT 3
We reached this stage "yesterday", to borrow a phrase. Kibaki will never take that initiative - his handlers are too afraid that he would not withstand it. When was the last time he uttered a word about what he believes should happen, other than the nonsense of "waende kotini"
It is time for Annan to lay down the rules...he has the will of everyone but panuistas.
Get the two in a room and no one leaves until we thrash it out
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 19, 2008 8:05:36 GMT 3
gen kegs cant negotiate, he is obviously mentally unfit for such rigors.
PNU needs a watergate Howard baker equivalent. He was the Senator who told Nixon he will be impeached and convicted so he better leave.
Unfortunately PNU has no elder statesman/woman who can take charge and tell kegs to do the right thing
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Post by merkeju on Feb 19, 2008 10:17:20 GMT 3
wangari lost her seat it tetu simply because she is principled person and she doesnt sing the tribalistic songs like her counterparts from central and thats why she was recognized and got a noble price,she is saying the truth and its high time my brothers and sisters from central should realize that the power sharing issue is also best for them because after kibaki they should never dream of getting that seat again,they have to re build that trust again but with a prime minister post they might get a chance and kibaki will never be in power forever.
kofi should stop this mambo jambo which is not taking us anywhere,its obvious that PNU team cannot make any binding agreement without first rushing to state house to get approval,let kibaki commit himself now and lets move forward,there is no middle ground here,the elections was flawed,Raila should have been the president but kibaki has the chance to still remain relevant,this is his last chance,after this he might not have a country to govern.
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Post by 50cents on Feb 19, 2008 15:50:36 GMT 3
Oops!!!!!! $ystem crush, not able to respond in realtime.
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 19, 2008 18:08:58 GMT 3
Job
I think this is a good idea although from the looks of things the talks are for all practical purposes over. They are going through the motions but I think both sides are resigned to the fact that they will have to find a solution outside the talks. The government as I have said elsewhere are lining up the tools and the resources for full time combat against Kenyans.
However I think, it might make sense for the ODM before the talks collapse completely to make this demand of Annan meeting the two primary leaders to broker a deal without the others. Each one can be allowed an assistant who is not a politician or a civil servant.
When it gets clear that the talks are about to collapse Kenyans may rally around such a direct negotiation as the last resort to avoid the looming disaster and may be the pressure could just be enough to force Kibaki to sit down with Raila and Annan to come up with a solution.
But first the ODM has stop dilly dallying with these fellas. If PNU doesn't want to budge let them face Kenyans and tell them the truth. After that they can demand direct talks with Kibaki as the last chance to salvage the country.
I think by now Kenyans should have been on the streets demanding a resolution even if that means fighting with the cops. But everybody is sitting on the fence except for a few civil society groups. People think Annan will work miracles for them and viola a solution will be found. I don't think so. Some time in future Kenyans will be begging Annan to come back and they will regret that they never supported him when he was in the middle of things.
adongo
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Post by wakwitu on Feb 19, 2008 20:22:10 GMT 3
What pessimism!
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 19, 2008 20:41:07 GMT 3
There is a difference between pessimism and reality. The fact of the matter is that Kibaki insists on a solution that is consistent with the current constitution. That is a code word for a solution that give Kibaki and his cohorts all the powers and getting the legitimacy they crave for through an ODM endorsement. How an illegal government that is hardly recognized at home and has been shunned by the international community can talk of solving the problem of their illegitimacy within the constitution, the same constitution they subverted to steal the vote, beats common sense. It is like a bunch of bank robbers who rob the bank and then they go sit down in their hideout and say we are going to divide the loot according to the constitution. Robbery is outside the constitution to begin with unless the thieves have their own constitution of thieves. The constitution of Kenya does not allow anybody to steal an election in the first place. If you steal the elections and you are caught and you are not recognized anywhere, it is silly and in furtherance of that election robbery itself to now want to go back to the constitution. It is just sheer rubbish and I think some of us are saying enuff is enuff. Do we have any solutions outside the talks? Nobody has. Not even the PNU big mouths yelling about the constitution. But history tells all of us that it is at times of crisis that nations find solutions. Kenya will live on and be great as it can be, but there is no need to bembereza political thieves forever. What Kibaki and co are saying to the ODM basically is that if you have a problem go to court. They are just saying it differently. Kenyans are not as stupid as these folks think. It is the same constitution this and constitution that. It is nonsense and it has to stop if the talks are to have a chance in hell of getting anywhere. adongo |
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Post by job on Feb 19, 2008 21:39:15 GMT 3
Adongo,
True,....the talks are basically stalled at agenda #3 - power-sharing.
This is to be the engine that is supposed to drive the transition arrangement and broker constitutional, governance and electoral reforms....and oversee fresh elections.
It seems Kibaki is singularly willing to lose the country as he hangs onto its power.
But ONE LAST CHANCE MUST be given in the FULL GLARE OF THE WORLD (Kenyans and international community).
THE CHANCE FOR KIBAKI HIMSELF, IN HIS OWN WORDS, ..........SITTING ACROSS RAILA AND KOFI ANNAN.......TO RUBBISH THE POWER SHARING ARRANGEMENTS.........WITHOUT USING EMISSARIES & PROXIES.
THE PROBLEM MUST BE ZEROED-IN TO ITS ROOT CAUSE.
THE TALKS MUST COLLAPSE AT A TABLE WITH ONLY THREE PEOPLE,.....KIBAKI, RAILA & KOFI ANNAN................AND KOFI CAN PUBLICLY TELL THE WORLD HIS NEUTRAL OPINION ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE.
THEN KENYANS AND THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
Will I be surprised at the FINAL collapse of the talks? Of course not,....I exactly predicted where this was going. But it must come in fashion, from the horses own mouth.
Millions of Kenyans are not going to accept Kibaki's illegitimate rule. Neither will many foreign and international allies accept the illegitimate government as presently constituted.
To borrow some of their very words...IT WILL NOT BE BUSINESS AS USUAL,........ BOTH LOCALLY (from within) AND INTERNATIONALLY (from without).
Mark my words my dear Kenyans. The police can not suppress the will of the people. Police and guns will not protect civilians and their properties scattered across Kenya. Lets talk the truth that people sweep under the carpet all the time.
KIBAKI MUST NOT INVITE (through policies hastily crafted under GUILT, DURESS, FEAR AND PANIC) into rural communities that serve as Kenya's BREAD BASKET & ECONOMIC MAINSTAY,...CIVILIAN INSURGENCIES, ECONOMIC SABOTAGE, COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE ARMS RACES, PROLIFERATION OF MILITIAS, INSECURITY, & NIGHT GUERILLAS.
Increased Police stations in select "gichagis" sends wrong messages (of state suppression) in those local communities, some of which have pending historical land injustice issues simmering from beneath the surface.
AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 POLICE recently hired, predominantly from two communities, and sent into target areas, will not offer any STABILITY falsely envisioned. They just invite curious big eyes of human rights watchdogs.
Even if the army is unleashed from the barracks to augment the "operation-suppress-the-people " .......the only thing that may be suppressed could be FEAR.
The response may not take any conventional norms........and the international community may not sit idly by.
Civil disobedience and economic sabotage coming from WITHIN may be clearly looming in the horizon. Neighbouring countries may not be spared negative consequences including uncontrolled spillage of refugees.
The international community may not just comfortably sit from WITHOUT and watch a country they consider of GEO-STRATEGIC SIGNIFICANCE, and lets call a spade a spade,..."AN IMPERIALIST'S IMPORTANT CASH COW",....." BEAUTIFUL HOLIDAY DESTINATION" ...."SAFE, QUIET & CHEAP LABOUR HAVEN FOR COMMERCIAL - TEA & HORTICULTURE- FARMING " ... "CHEAP INVESTMENT HUB"....."FINANCIAL CORRIDOR FOR MONEY LAUNDERING"...ETC ETC,........BLEED TO DEATH JUST BECAUSE OF STUPID ACTIONS BY A BELLIGERENT ELECTORAL THIEF.
The international community and their multi-national corporate interests (FROM WITHOUT) are acutely aware that while their ideas on the WAY FORWARD, are shared by millions of pro-democracy, pro-change, pro-justice KENYANS .....(FROM WITHIN),......they would not want to wait too long and let the disenchanted Kenyans take matters into THEIR OWN HANDS.
Foreign allies exactly know that ..........Sabotaging major infrastructure arteries like ROADS, RAILWAYS, OIL-PIPELINES, WATER PIPELINES & ELECTRICITY LINES is not exactly a big task for millions of idle and angry folks who survive on...... no electricity, no piped water, no imported goods & merchandise, no jobs, no land, and no hope anyway.
These poor folk can invite a couple more millions into their lifestyle in a heartbeat SO LONG AS A TRIGGER FACTOR & SUPPRESSIVE ENVIRONMENT are both created.
It is thus not far-fetched, judging from Kibaki's belligerence, for middle class Kenyans living in suburbs to start imagining life without water flowing from the taps (stashing handy mtungis and jerry cans), ....without electricity.....with increased petrol and basic commodity prices, arising from chronic shortages.....and such INCONVENIENCES & CHANGES IN LIFESTYLE.
Just tell me how many police will Kibaki need to guard every single inch of the electricity or water lines to Muthaiga, Kahawa, Gigiri, Runda , some which pass through which pass through Eastleigh, Pumwani, Ziwani, Majengo, Mathare, Kariobangi, Korogocho, Eastleigh and such areas.
How many police will need to guard every inch of the railway line and highway transcending across Kenya from Mombasa to Malaba.
Sierra Leone, Liberia & Ivory Coast were all reduced into such situations........ZERO FUNCTIONING INFRASTRUCTURE....... just within a couple of dark weeks......and that's when some folks that had buried their heads deep in sand woke up only to realize they were not rubbing sand from their heads but rubble and soot.
From within, I get the feeling that millions of desperate, poor, disenfranchised, marginalized, land-deprived, land-robbed and jobless Kenyans may not accept a "business as usual" modus operandi.
From without, I constantly hear repeated warnings about not accepting a "business as usual" modus operandi.
The election was stolen by Kibaki and he now assumes he will proceed (using illegitimate power) and steal every remaining rights of disillusioned Kenyans and spite at the international community. Not happening........
Let Kibaki say to Kofi and the rest of the world that he will not share power.......will not be part of any transition arrangement.....will not be part of constitutional and electoral reforms......and will not go for fresh elections.
Job
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 19, 2008 22:20:33 GMT 3
For once Job you stopped yor analysis way afar from the eventual shores of logic.
You may have correctly predicted gen kegs eventual intransigence and his unwillingness to part with ill-begotten power and the eventual collapse of the talks.
But to expect kegs to make that pronouncement openly is wishful thinking. That you want kegs to issue edicts from his own mouth sitting at a table WITH R AND KOFI DECLARING HE budge is wishful thinking. Since when has kegs taken responsibility for anything?
But thats beside the point.
The thing is, now we know with some certainity, what the sham talks will produce. Nothing. An impasse. Status quo.
Where we head from here is now the question.
PNU has its plan B, it has laid ground work for it by the irregular transfer of security forces. Its the one BIG card it can play real fast with devastating consequences. Its obvious they want to kill and maim as many ODMers as possible to exact painful "revenge" for the ouster of the Gema diaspora from RV and the West in general. I think its now clear the IDPs wont go back. They, PNU, want payment in blood. Its Simple. They want to 'teach' us a lesson.
Now I await the international response.
Will they sit back and watch the massacre at the hands of the security forces and Govt sponsored militias like Mungiki?. Didnt Jendayi say order will be imposed from without if need be?
No one should claim that they did not see this coming.
The people have spoken.
The election must be revisted and power devolved.
Or no peace.
They are willing to die.
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Post by job on Feb 19, 2008 22:42:37 GMT 3
PM,
Get your point......but Kibaki's message can come through ommission......he can talk by silence at the table...................
A news-breaking headline is needed ..."Kibaki refuses power-sharing settlement".....or "Kibaki refuses to accent to power sharing settlement proposals"..................AND NOT ...... "PNU party refuses power-sharing settlement" ........& certainly not "PNU party representtives refuse to accent to power-sharing settlement proposals"
The two sets of statements present implications that are worlds apart my friend.
Job
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 19, 2008 22:48:05 GMT 3
PM
Actually what Job is saying makes a lot of sense. The thing is that Kibaki and the PNU never wanted the talks. Michuki himself said Kofi Annan was not invited in Kenya.
It was the pressure from within the country with demostrations where people were beaten and teargassed, the pressure from outside from both Kenyans and international voices that Kibaki was forced to accept the talks.
The problem is Kenyans relented their campaigns to give Annan a chance and not to antagonize the situation. That move has now backfired. Kibaki feels he has had about four weeks of relative peace, there are no demos in Nairobi, Kisumu, Mombasa or even London and Washington to worry him. Did your hear Kalonzo say the country has returned to peace and the humanitarian situation has now been resolved. That is on KBC.
In other words it might be worth the effort for Kenyans and not just a few people like Wangari Maathai to come up and demand that the two leaders take direct responsibility for either the success or failure of the talks. Such pressure could yield some good results if Kibaki is made aware that the consequences will be on his head.
The problem we have in the country is that due to entrenched tribalism and misplaced sense of "this is our government" the PNU supporters for the most part feel Kibaki keeping all powers is the best thing that can happen to them. We are still in a mode where peace means one thing to ODM supporters and another thing to PNU supporters. What we refuse to accept is that peace means the same thing to everybody the same way as chaos.
But I agree with Job's other point as well. I believe the talks have united a good segment of the population who no longer see it within the prism of Raila wants this or that. I also think Kenyans will take on Kibaki with everything they have even if that means bare hands.
I have said before that the country is in bad shape. West of Nakuru is already ODM territory. Kibaki has Central, Eastern and parts of Nairobi. NEP is freelancing for now but they are hoing to take sides once the drums are on. Coast is going to be challenging for both sides.
In a country where everything depends on the ancient rail and road links from the coast to the western part of the country the potential for transport sabotage that would bring the economic activities and commerce to a halt are obvious even to folks with no military expertise like me.
Anybody who pays serious attention to the country can see that a generalized insurgency and state of anarchy and civil war in the country under the present demographic and geographic balances of power is a national suicide. That is why even as I see the talks falling apart, I still think putting pressure on the big guns to get back on the table is not a bad idea at all. But according to KTN reports, Kibaki has already rejected the power sharing plan. So may be you have a point.
adongo
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 19, 2008 22:54:26 GMT 3
Well kegs has made his move. He has prepared for it too.
What will ODM do? What are ODMs cards that can be played without violence or death as a by product?
We know what ODM wants, we know what the country in general wants.
How do we get there?
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Post by mzee on Feb 19, 2008 23:23:28 GMT 3
Kibaki and co thinks that if they kill people then all will stop. I say this: THE PEOPLE BEING KILLED WERE AS GOOD AS DEAD IN THE FIVE YEARS KIBAKI WAS IN POWER DUE TO POVERTY. THAT THEY DI E IN THE STREETS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THEM DYING THROUGH STARVATION IN THEIR BEDROOMS.
Kibaki and his cronies are a strange breed.
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 19, 2008 23:24:09 GMT 3
Initially the ODM will have no control over anything. How people respond to these things is very unpredictable. I think the barricades are going to go up. The cleansing is going to deepen. It will be back to business as usual since Dec 30, 2007 and you know that is not the kind of business as usual anybody wanted.
I suspect people are going to be extremely angry. They will feel cheated twice and they are going to let Kibaki and the whole world know they will not be Kibaki's slaves under all circumstances. That is phase one starting probably as we speak.
The ODM I suspect will take their time. And right now, they are not going to tell anybody what they are going to do. They have to go and talk to the masses and develop their strategies. Even political speculators like me will not venture to even suggest what the ODM might want to do.
I think now it is a matter of crossing the bridges as people get there. Bob Marley adviced us a long time ago that when one road is closed another is open. The people will have to find the open roads and I am very confident they will find them. Who knows they might even be clearer and better roads than the Annan route.
But expect an explosion of shock and outrage from Kenyans when they realize the talks are dead and when they see who has killed them. The same people who cheated them of their votes have now denied them an opportunity for a peaceful solution. They are not going to like it one bit.
adongo
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 19, 2008 23:35:29 GMT 3
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Post by mzee on Feb 19, 2008 23:37:42 GMT 3
AO,
The good news is that the blame seem to be hanging on PANU shoulders. I wonder how they will convince people that the right thing was to refuse to share power.
Since I have many relatives in Kenya, Im not looking forward to that day. But as has been said on this board Kibaki would rather go down with the country than let go power. Its strange but its going to happen.
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Post by mzee on Feb 19, 2008 23:39:22 GMT 3
All I know is that the security forces will used by the so called government for sometime but eventually they will also see the truth.
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Post by mzee on Feb 19, 2008 23:47:38 GMT 3
My fear is that PANU will want to anchor everything on the constitution. Passing the necessary bills will require PANUs co-operation but since they are not interested in power sharing, the parliament will never have enough votes to pass the required bills. Afterall amending the constitution requires 65% of the votes to go through. So, I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel not even a flicker. |
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 20, 2008 0:28:49 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 20, 2008 1:10:59 GMT 3
PM and MzeeThe trouble here is that they are yapping with both sides of their mouths. I think all this show was engineered by Kibaki and State House. They sent Kalonzo whom as you know has a whole political career depending on the failure of the talks to chair a meeting to denounce power sharing and get rapid talking Mungatana to address a big press conference that was one step. Step two, was to have Martha and Kilonzo going ballistics at the talks telling ODM to be grateful and get whatever at the mercy of Kibaki. Kibaki knew he was meeting Annan later in the day. On that background Kibaki could say he cannot agree to something that his party has already rejected. www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=2&newsid=117245The ODM basically told them off at the talks and everybody was ready to call the whole BS talks off. Then somehow in the afternoon, PNU agrees to set up a sub-committee to define possible constitutional changes to accomodate some power sharing scheme. It is possible the sub-committee move is another window dressing because the PNU, despite their machismo tough talk are actually not ready for the consequences of collapsed talks. When you look at the PNU games you get a feeling that they actually think they can initmidate ODM to accept their crumbs. It is like they want to have their cake and eat it at the same time. They are too scared to face Kenyans after sabotaging the talks and they are also too greedy to accept genuine power sharing. So they are doing the hyena walk on both directions. As we all know that walk can only go for a short distance before the hyena either bursts its behind or choose one path. They are almost there. adongo
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Post by job on Feb 20, 2008 1:35:58 GMT 3
Actually, the ink didn't dry before Kibaki himself declared the news-breaker.........
THERE WILL BE NO SHARING OF POWER IN HIS ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT.......AND ......THE CURRENT CONSTITUTION (WHICH MAJORITY KENYANS LOATHE BUT WHICH HE IS IN LOVE WITH)....MUST NOT BE TAMPERED WITH EVEN IN AN EFFORT TO SEEK STABILITY & PEACE.
I think we are heading right where we were before Kofi Annan brought in these mediation talks............
Kofi just needs to pack up and go home since nothing positive is coming from these talks.
Agenda 1, 2 & 4 will all fail by the simple failure of agenda 3, any reasonable person can see that. Its no rocket science.
PM,
ODM need not do anything EXCEPT continue to sit (PURELY FOR FORMALITY REASONS) with Kofi Annan (UNTIL HE DECIDES TO PACK). ODM SHOULD AT LEAST ANNOUNCE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE PARTY TO THE STUPIDITY BEING FLOATED BY ATTENTION-SEEKING MINIONS LIKE MUNGATANA.........WHO DON'T EVEN SEEM TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE ENGLISH WORDS LIKE CO-OPTING.
THE THIEF (KIBAKI) WANTS TO ROB THE VICTIM (ODM) OF THE ONLY THING THEY ARE LEFT HOLDING,......LEGISLATIVE NUMBERS.
HOW CAN AN UNPOPULAR TRIBAL PARTY CALLED PNU, WITH ONLY 43 MPS..... CO-OPT.....OR PUT ANOTHER WAY....ASSIMILATE....KENYA'S LARGEST AND MOST POPULAR PARTY CALLED ODM,...A NATIONAL PARTY WITH BROAD REGIONAL REPRESENTATION.....COMMANDING ALMOST HALF OF KENYA'S TOTAL LEGISLATIVE STRENGTH.
THESE ARE THE KINDS OF ARROGANT STATEMENTS FULL OF MISPLACED IMPUNITY THAT WILL EVENTUALY SEND KENYA TO THE DOGS.
IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE, WATCH KIBAKI MAKE THE MOVES HIMSELF,......ODM NEED NOT DO A THING........WATCH KIBAKI, FALSELY BOLSTERED BY PERCEIVED SECURITY BOOSTS AND ARMS ACQUISITIONS FROM CHINA,.......WATCH KIBAKI WITH THE ILLEGITIMATE, NO-MANDATE OUTFIT START STEPPING ON CITIZENS TOES;...WATCH HIM PULL THE PIN FROM THE GRENADE HIMSELF;...WATCH HIM;
1) Poaching pliant, ODM MPs like he did to Kalonzo & ODM-K crew in an effort to BUY legislative support. The targets will obvously take ethnic dimensions in an attempt to effect divide and rule. Those bought are supposedly to be expected to UNCONDITIONALLY VOTE WITH THE ILLEGITIMATE GOVT TO PASS BILLS AND APPROVE BUDGETS.
2) Begin building the so called modern-state-of-the-art police stations in rural "gichagis" in Rift Valley and manning them with GEMA police. The official arrival of "state" instruments of suppression to native locals is supposedly going to be part of Kibaki's plans for reconciling the nation.
3) Resettling of oblivious IDPs back into hostile territories amidst CLEAR FAILURE TO RESOLVE POLITICAL DIFFRENCES......is yet another of the deeply-thought plans by Kibaki and PNU to succeed in reconciling the nation.
4) Insitence on maintaining the status quo arrangement, by deferring any reforms for later,....
5) Continued perpetration of skewed resource allocations based on patronage versus constitutionally guaranteed distributive mechanisms for resources.....is supposedly part of Kibaki's grand plans for reconciling the nation.
Well, watch where that takes the country.
Listening to President Bush's speech in Rwanda earlier today, it is discernible that the international intelligence has gathered enough information to suspect imminent resumption of violence, under these scenarios above......and he said.....any foreign troops from AU or UN need not be confined only to PEACE KEEPING DUTIES........"the mission has to change and be redifined for special circumstances", he said.
I BET THERE ARE OTHER DUTIES BESIDES KEEPING PEACE THAT SOLDIERS DO BEST.
WE ARE FACING REALLY INTERESTING BUT DARK TIMES IN KENYA.
JOB
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 20, 2008 3:07:11 GMT 3
AU troops are in the embryonic stage Job, and they cant be deployed in rapid succession in Kenya anytime soon
So that option is not viable.
I am still wondering what jendayi meant when she alluded to an external solution.
But these guys are ready, the PNU guys, to use force to supress ODM and other anti PNU supporters.
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Post by job on Feb 20, 2008 4:31:16 GMT 3
PM,
all thats needed to put boots on the ground, whether AU or UN forces, is FUNDS and a compelling necessity to send them in the first place................
these are just troops seconded from military forces of member countries,....so willing countries contribute troops to the body who are funded and equipped by donor or internationally channelled funds,.....its not really about a budding and long-standing army just waiting for trouble spots to boil over......these are outfits that can assembled intermitently on a PRN (on a need by need) basis.
If the reason is there.......as is imminent IN KENYA.....then the international community can provide the funds in the blink of an eye. Kenya is no Darfur where folks have to debate whether or not to send troops for years when more than compelling reasons already scream for the same.
In Kenya, some international players argue for preventive rather than curative interventions.
Job
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