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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 16, 2011 19:58:48 GMT 3
Your opinion to be a Raila's follower invites reactions as bleating sheep. I know you have your own opinion principles and ideals regarding how to better the society and future of Kenya. If these ideals and principles are the same as Raila proclaims than you are a follower of the same ideals and principles. However stating to be Raila's follower implies to follow the person, even when he changes of opinion or principles you will change your opinion and principles as well. Why not take the mashadaish as a challenge to sharpen your self-assurance and independency? Merlin and whose sheep are you? What gives you the right to call a fellow jukwaaist 'sheep' ? Wana jukwaa are not the problem the bedevil the country of Kenya. If there is/are anyone who deserve any epithets, then the folks who stole the election, the folks who stole land the size of Nyanza province, the folks who engineered AF scandal, Triton, GB, artur imbroglio, the ones who are paying 250M x2 for the Hague ICC defense, are the ones who deserve epithets hurled in their direction. If your problem is with the Hon Prime Minister, you are at liberty to launch tirades at him with every ounce of energy and vitriol you can muster. After all I do it myself everyday here. What wont wash is attacking fellow jukwaaists in a personal manner or engaging in tribal rants against those you perceive to be different from you. There is a line and it aint that thin. Just dont cross it. On many occasions here including the birthday thread to the Hon Prime Minister, I have expressed my profound admiration of the man. I dont mince words when it comes to my respect, love and adoration of him. And yes where ever he leads I will follow. Yet you have never called me a sheep, but see fit to call dada nereah a sheep. Why? Am I detecting a sexist angle here? The term sheep was popularized by kamale here to describe ODMers in general. So long as it used that way I have no problem. But it seems you have taken the liberty of using it directly at a fellow jukwaaist. Now that I have a problem with. For you have not told us whose sheep your are, and who is your shepherd!! Oh you have no shepherd? is that it? And just so you know dont try that crap on me. Debate ideas brought forth here without attacking the poster in such demeaning terms. Shame on you! And read this post by Administrator on how to conduct YOURSELF HERE.
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Post by gemagema on Jan 16, 2011 20:15:10 GMT 3
@ Merlin, thank you for answering Nerea for me. I would not add nor subtract.
@ Nerea, I am sure you have read what Merlin wrote. But in case note, here is an extract from her comments
And for your information, I only picked up the notorious ‘bleating sheep’ phraseology from this thread. I hope you realize that I did not introduce it, but only took it up, as I thought is traditional in referencing and staying relative to the thread in question. And that is why I put it in quotes and in Italics.
And as you further write
As we all follow news and read several critiques and punditry religiously, it should be your good guess that I already know what a Raila apologetic would put across as justification that ‘ODM is 5 yrs ahead of its nearest competitor’. If it really was, it wouldn’t be caught napping like it has happened to it. Hence, I will not wish you to wear me out with facts/clichés. I do not believe in anyway, that you will convince me otherwise.
If your party is/was ahead, it would should have stood by the masses and not chickened out, playing safe for the sake of the crime-ridden, corruption-muddied comrades who notwithstanding all Raila’s ‘sacrifice of reform for impunity’, have dumped him anyways...tena kibaridi kibaridi tuu.
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Post by nereah on Jan 16, 2011 20:41:16 GMT 3
merlin and gema gema. heshima kwenu.this thread by phil is about odm polls and national delegates conference in which phil makes a shout out to those progressives who ascribes to odm ideology to prepare and do the needful when the hour cometh. it is disingenuous to say you dont follow or go after a leadership of organized grouping that you betrays passionate affiliation to.it is evident in the revulsion with which one detest the perceptible threat to that leadership. for instance...when uhuru kenyatta took a walk before----long before kalonzo formed odm-k--- to pander to mzee mwai wa kibaki---the rest of those who have no time for raila followed him to pnu. i would have said more but i have a flight to catch. by the way,this thread as phil's initial posting shows,is by,for and of odm followers.may i know if by any chance any of you is a member of odm ?
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 16, 2011 20:46:55 GMT 3
nereah & others
I wonder what all the excitement is all about. ODM was supposed to be dead in 2005. Then its was surely dead in in 2007 after Kalonzo took off with the certificate, thinking that was the party. The usual fake prophets told us ODM was finished. Never happened. Then they told us Raila was completely unelectable. They seemed convinced that they knew what they were talking about. We told them to take a seat and watch the show.
Guess what, with only weeks to the actual election panic hit them squarely in the face. ODM was not just very much alive, contrary to their endless obituaries, it was by far the most popular party in the country while PNU was a bunch of desperate "parties" trying to find their way in darkness. They are still doing the exact same dance as we speak.
Back to the story. After all the predictions on the end of ODM and Raila, kaboom Raila was a head of Kibaki in the polls and it looked like the so called unelectable guy was heading straight to State House. Desperation set in. That happened. It is not a fairy tale story.
When the Raila poll numbers hit the scene with weeks to the election, the PNU pinhead propagandists working with the NSIS started doing ridiculous things like coming up with a fake MoU that Raila had supposedly signed with Kenyan Muslims to introduce Sharia law in Kenya.
The goofers making up all these stories took Kenyans for idiots. We told them they were the real idiots. Sooner than later they realized they were in big trouble. Then they decided they would rather blow the country up than let Kenyans elect President Raila Amolo Odinga. Those are historical facts that the nation and its people will look at and study for generations to come.
So here we go again. The fake prophets are already busy. ODM is finished they say! Right? I mean how many times does one party have to be finished? Raila is finished again for the umpteenth time they tell us with some urgency it seems. And they think the country should take them seriously. Really?
The political landscape in Kenya is littered with many a grave site of Kenyans who came into prominence by their promise that they will bury Raila Amolo Odinga forever. The Raphael Tujus, the Musikari Kombos, the Kivutha Kibwanas, the Koigi Wamweres, the Mukhisa Kituyis, the Daniel Arap Mois and many more. The voices I see here in jukwaa peddling the same garbage are really not worth much attention considering the aforementioned competition. The Raila hate propaganda machine is a full industry by itself. It is still thriving.
The notion that all we need as a country is to get rid of Raila as a political force in the country and everything will be a walk in the park for status quo forces and allies is wildly misplaced as we have seen in the last few decades in the political process of the country.
Let ODM hold their elections, which they will in every part of the country. There are going to be a lot of people striving to get into positions of leadership in ODM. There is no shortage of candidates. That I know for a fact.
Right here in Jukwaaa I proposed and asked jukwaa members to give views on what they expect from ODM as a national political party. I compiled all the issues raised. I promised that I will get and post here in Jukwaa a comprehensive response from ODM leadership. I intend to keep that promise. It is coming soon.
I think ODM members of which I am not one, need to deal with how to build the party than how to respond to the voices of doom for whom ODM has been dead since 2005.
I have said before and I will say it again. The coalitions that will contest the 2012 General Elections and presidential elections have not been born yet. We haven't seen a thing yet. That is what my crystal ball says and it is in a very good mood today. .Nobody knows what is coming. Nobody is going to be able to build a political party from a cell in the Hague to begin with. Those are illusions and delusions.
The political minefield in Kenya in the next two years is going to require much more than the usual simplistic tribal math that some people consider as the ultimate political analysis in Kenya. The nation is going to face what it has never faced before. Nobody should lie that they know what is going to happen.
And then some morons coming in here to call people sheep should be told they are in the wrong forum. Bring your head when you are in here not the other end of your anatomy. Is that too much to ask? I hope not.
adongo
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Post by adongo23456 on Jan 16, 2011 23:48:20 GMT 3
How I wish ODM would heed this call and move the nation forward. www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Groundswell%20of%20anger%20could%20be%20the%20start%20of%20a%20popular%20rebellion%20/-/440808/1090688/-/iypdyl/-/index.htmlThis groundswell of anger could be the beginning of a popular rebellion By RASNA WARAH Posted Sunday, January 16 2011 at 17:36 I don’t know if the political elite truly believe that Kenyans are stupid, or whether they are too arrogant and self-important to care about what the people who voted them into office think about them.Kenya is truly unique in that it is a dictatorship pretending to be a democracy, except that in the Kenyan case, it is not one man ruling over the majority, but a bunch of men and a few women in Parliament, who decide the fate of Kenyans. In 2002, when Daniel arap Moi was vacating office, I told BBC Online that I was not sure if “getting rid of the politician Moi would get rid of the Moi in every Kenyan politician.” Nearly 10 years have passed since I made that statement, and I am seeing Moi clones everywhere. Our parliamentarians decide which Kenyan lives, which one dies, which one is jailed, which one is acquitted, which one gets State funding, which one doesn’t. As my fellow Nation columnist Charles Onyango-Obbo noted recently, “One of the things that distinguishes the Kenyan Parliament is that it has actually hijacked a lot of power from the Executive and even the courts.” What makes our parliamentarians even more extraordinary is that, unlike neighbouring countries, such as Uganda or Tanzania, they are the least ideological, which, according to Onyango-Obbo, explains why there has been no full-scale rebellion or revolution in this country.’’ But if one places one’s ear close to the ground, one might hear an army approaching, leading to the start of such a rebellion. As I write this, Kenyans from all walks of life are gathering their resources to present a petition against the government’s proposal to withdraw from the International Criminal Court (ICC) and to use taxpayers’ money to pay the legal fees of the six suspects accused of committing crimes against humanity. The idea is to use all means possible to get at least one million Kenyans to sign the petition before it is presented to the government and the international community in order to “place the Kenya Government on legal notice for any action which is contrary to Kenya’s sovereignty and its Constitution, and in breach of international obligations”.The petition seeks to underscore the fact that withdrawing from the ICC process and using public money to pay the legal fees of the suspects is retrogressive, and could have wider consequences that will undermine the already fragile situation in the country. It is an attempt to register ordinary Kenyans’ anger at “the embezzling and diversion of the meagre resources which are intended to alleviate the situation of the post-election IDPs” and the “politicisation of a grave human rights issue”. One of the specific immediate demands of the petition is that President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga unambiguously state their position concerning the Rome Statute and the ICC and follow it through with concrete actions.At this critical point in our nation’s history, let the two principals make known their views and not hide behind officialdom to protect the rights of not just those who lost their family members and who were raped or displaced during the mayhem of 2007/8, but also the rights of all Kenyans, rights that are now enshrined in the new Constitution. At the very least, the President and Prime Minister should sack the five senior civil servants who have been named as suspects by the chief prosecutor at the ICC.They can call it “stepping aside” if they like, but those five suspects should not be allowed to control public funds by virtue of their position, and should be denied access to any privileges paid for by the taxpayer. In addition, for the sake of transparency, the government should once and for all make public the findings of the Waki Commission. Failure to do all of the above may lead Kenyans to take actions that will forcibly remove all those parliamentarians who are cynically disregarding the Constitution, international law and their mandate as elected MPs.
A coup d’etat in the making? Perhaps.
What is clear is that Kenyans are fed up with the business-as-usual attitude of our parliamentarians, and are not willing to be hoodwinked any more. I say join this campaign by writing to info@nisisikenya.com.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 17, 2011 0:21:51 GMT 3
The article by Rasna above echoes and articulates much of what wana Jukwaa believe should happen, that the ICC 6 should "step aside" until their cases are finished.
I dont know what coup Rasna is referring to, that is in the making.
But that term frightens me, for there are very few bloodless coups I have heard about. Even the recent one in Tunisia cost some lives. In this day and age, why should folks die so that change can happen?
I like the petition idea, I like pressure being applied day and night to prevent the Executive from siphoning off 500M KsH for such a dubious cause as defending the two mafiya amigos.
And by the way how can such mammoth amount of funds be dispensed without legislative approval. Is this money part of a kitty that can be dipped into by the Executive for whatever reason? Wapi budget? Or the crafty inept mafiyan Min of Finance has just moved money from here to there, just like that?
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Post by merlin on Jan 17, 2011 7:44:59 GMT 3
Your opinion to be a Raila's follower invites reactions as bleating sheep. I know you have your own opinion principles and ideals regarding how to better the society and future of Kenya. If these ideals and principles are the same as Raila proclaims than you are a follower of the same ideals and principles. However stating to be Raila's follower implies to follow the person, even when he changes of opinion or principles you will change your opinion and principles as well. Why not take the mashadaish as a challenge to sharpen your self-assurance and independency? Merlin and whose sheep are you? What gives you the right to call a fellow jukwaaist 'sheep' ? Wana jukwaa are not the problem the bedevil the country of Kenya. If there is/are anyone who deserve any epithets, then the folks who stole the election, the folks who stole land the size of Nyanza province, the folks who engineered AF scandal, Triton, GB, artur imbroglio, the ones who are paying 250M x2 for the Hague ICC defense, are the ones who deserve epithets hurled in their direction. If your problem is with the Hon Prime Minister, you are at liberty to launch tirades at him with every ounce of energy and vitriol you can muster. After all I do it myself everyday here. What wont wash is attacking fellow jukwaaists in a personal manner or engaging in tribal rants against those you perceive to be different from you. There is a line and it aint that thin. Just dont cross it. On many occasions here including the birthday thread to the Hon Prime Minister, I have expressed my profound admiration of the man. I dont mince words when it comes to my respect, love and adoration of him. And yes where ever he leads I will follow. Yet you have never called me a sheep, but see fit to call dada nereah a sheep. Why? Am I detecting a sexist angle here? The term sheep was popularized by kamale here to describe ODMers in general. So long as it used that way I have no problem. But it seems you have taken the liberty of using it directly at a fellow jukwaaist. Now that I have a problem with. For you have not told us whose sheep your are, and who is your shepherd!! Oh you have no shepherd? is that it? And just so you know dont try that crap on me. Debate ideas brought forth here without attacking the poster in such demeaning terms. Shame on you! And read this post by Administrator on how to conduct YOURSELF HERE. Politicalmaniac,Please accept my apology for referring to the term "bleating sheep" as was used in gemagema’s contribution. Maybe you like to change the term into devotees?
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Post by mzalendo on Jan 17, 2011 16:04:30 GMT 3
And when we needed the money for civic education for the new constitution Uhuru is on record saying the treasury has no more funds for the exercise,The exercise almost came to its knees and Rao had to come up with solution. How come they have it now for Ocampo six without approval of the house against the wishes of the majority of Kenyans?
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 18, 2011 8:04:58 GMT 3
Politicalmaniac,Please accept my apology for referring to the term "bleating sheep" as was used in gemagema’s contribution. Maybe you like to change the term into devotees? Very gracious of you merlin. As I indicated above we arent the problem as such and many of the problems we have as a country, we can trace back from where they stemmed. I have little respect for the political glitterati back home. But I will try to respect contributors here even when we are diametrically opposed. My full wrath is directed at those fellows who I wont hesitate to call out to the extent rules and regs here allow me to Have a prosperous new yr and keep the debate vigorous here
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Post by phil on Jan 20, 2011 19:04:01 GMT 3
If reports on the ground are anything to go by, then the people's party is on its way to a big reawakening. You notice on this report that ODM is receiving defectors from highly unlikely quarters. (I have to add that I do not agree with the Standard's continued labelling of ODM as ' Raila party' - but that is a storyfor another day). Senior members of the civil society are also preparing to defect to the same party. One will also not fail to notice that despite Moses Kuria's doomsday predictions on the part of ODM, there is democractic vibrancy in most branches and campaigns, lobbying and strategy meetings are being held all over the country in readiness of the primaries and this report by the same media confirms this. Moses Kuria can only dream that PNU can be like ODM in terms of internal tolerance, internal democracy and the early preparations. Moses Kuria must be wondering when his party will make structural reforms so as to comply with provisions of the new constitution. As it is and very pathetic, PNU does not even know itself as some officials of PNU the political party were at the as of yesterday's date at the registrars office putting in registerations documents for YET another general election vehicle to be known as the PNU Alliance. Pray, if your party leader is already lacking confidence of winning alone and is prematurely calling for alliances, which person will have the confidence to support such a party that lacks direction, ideology and vision? Over to you Bw Moses Kuria. Back to the ODM grassroot elections, in the next few months, I am reliably informed to expect high profile defections from PNU and also from areas which we have repeatedly been reminded are no-go-zones for ODM, notably the former Rift Valley and Central provinces. So long as ODM practices fairness and freedom in its elections and allows internal democracy to thrive, then the sleeping giant is certainly waking up. I think it is the right thing to do and a masterstoke that the party resolved to invite the IIEC to come and conduct the ODM elections. Neutral electoral commissions do not come any better. That way, competing political forces cannot later claim favouratism or rigging by the party's election board. This is good news for ODM supporters around the world. Chungwa ni Moja, Maisha iwe bora.
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Post by phil on Jan 27, 2011 18:28:44 GMT 3
The ODM is intent on conducting transparent, free and fair grassroot elections in March. The party's recruitment drive is ON and the party is working on a mechanism where ODM will invite potential members to register electronically and send your registration fee via M-PESA or other direct account. In the meantime, you may register today and inform many others to do so by sending text message of your name and constituency to 3553 so that the database is up-to-date. Finally, for those who thought ODM lacks presence in the cyberspace, I have a surprise for you: Website: www.chungwamoja.co.keTwitter: www.twitter.com/chungwamoja, and Facebook: www.facebook.com/chungwamoja The website alive but also being updated to be made interactive and will be on full throttle soon. You can however register at the website too! Now there is no longer an excuse to blame Nyongo or Ongera.
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Post by enigma on Jan 28, 2011 15:04:35 GMT 3
Thanks Phil for sharing the links. And from those sources here is the latest official communication from ODM: www.facebook.com/notes/chungwa-moja-odm/press-statement-27th-jan-2011/187629794595250Press Statement | 27th Jan 2011by Chungwa Moja - ODM on Thursday, 27 January 2011 at 14:51 A group of Members under the banner of KKK Alliance has not once but on numerous occasions made inflammatory statements about ODM and its leaders led by the Prime Minister Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga and Deputy Prime Minister Hon. Musalia Mudavadi. ODM is not in the business of reacting to non issues especially those raised by a people who think about themselves and not about the people and the country at large. But we make clarifications to critical issues that are blown out of proportion perhaps to suit some people’s interests. It is sad that some Hon. Members with very poor memory of their own deeds can come here and make populous statements with the aim of playing to the galleries. When the Chepalungu MP. Hon. Isaac Ruto moved a motion in Parliament late last year urging the State to withdraw from the Rome Statute that creates the ICC, he simply was making a proposal to the government. Members with egocentric ideologies supported it forgetting who took Kenya to The Hague. The shuttle diplomacy by the Vice President Hon. Kalonzo is his own arrangement, even his Party Secretary General and Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs Hon. Mutula Kilonzo can attest to this. For Members of Parliament on a cheap payroll to come out and claim that Parliament passed a motion calling for the deferral of the ICC Case against the Ocampo Six is a fallacy, archaic and quite barbaric. The Motion by Hon. Isaac Ruto was just a wish to the government and not a government resolution. One cannot accuse the Prime Minister for calling for the matter to be handled at The Hague. It is the same Members of Parliament who have today ganged up to fill their stomachs at the expense of innocent victims of Post Election Violence, who shot down a motion to have the cases handled locally hence taking Kenya to The Hague. The Prime Minister, the President, the then Justice Minister Hon. Martha Karua and Imenti Central MP Hon. Gitobu Imanyara vigorously lobbied for the local tribunal, but the same MPs shouted “Let’s not be Vague, we want The Hague”, surely even a fool will remember the words of his mouth, a year later. It is laughable for Hon. Johnston Muthama to call for the prosecution of the President; his boss at The Hague. How can a whole government Chief Whip call for the arrest of the President and the Prime Minister? Is he confirming to the Nation that the President and Vice President refused to acknowledge and recognize Mr. Raila’s victory in 2007, ganged up and hurriedly forced a government, therefore sparking off the Post Election Violence? Mr. Muthama should tell Kenyans what he knows that everyone else’s outside there doesn’t know. As an insider, he really has a lot to tell the Nation. We are fully behind the Prime Minister, he is not the ODM Prime Minister but the Prime Minister of the Republic of Kenya and so he should be respected as such. When an Honourable Member claims before the Media and the public that Mr. Odinga should take stock of his numbers in the House and tell Kenyans if he still is the Prime Minister, it portrays not only ignorance but cheap politics that have been passed by time. As far as we are concerned, ODM still holds on its numerical strength in Parliament and in Civic Councils. No Member of Parliament has officially written to the Speaker, resigning from Parliament and quit ODM as his/her party. If these people are men enough and a people of integrity and standard self-esteem, they should quit, go back to seek fresh mandate from the electorate and come back to Parliament on a different party. ODM has 105 elected and nominated MPs and that is a fact. Nothing has changed. The Prime Minister’s mission to Ivory Coast was not a local arrangement, it was a decision made by the highest level of the African Union. Why then start making a fuss out of this? It is not as local and discreet as the Shuttle Diplomacy that the Hon. Members are trying to defend. Lets call a spade a spade, not a big spoon. If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything. Our Hon. Members who have made it a habit to always mislead the public should know that, recently and even as late as yesterday, some of them denounced the KKK Alliance. Today as they issued the statement, they confirmed to the Nation that they were members of the KKK Alliance and it is on camera. ODM stands for National Unity and not tribal groupings. Hassan Ali Joho, Kisauni MP National Organizing Secretary
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Post by phil on Jan 28, 2011 15:21:33 GMT 3
enigma
Thank you and welcome.
Now ODM is talking directly to the people. And let the battles for 2012 begin.
I cannot see any media house in Kenya publishing that statement in full. You can see how much ODM has disconnected itself from the public. It is foolhardy to rely on partisan and corrupted Kenya media to communicate the feelings of the party to the public.
NOW we know!
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Post by kamalet on Jan 28, 2011 16:15:03 GMT 3
The statement by Joho - he of the suspected drug dealers (just what kind of characters abound in ODM?) is nothing but laughable.
Let us start with this thing of inflamatory remarks about ODM by some armophous group being called KKK or the remarks directed a the PM and the DPM from ODM. First in competitive politics, this name calling will happen and it does not help Joho and ODM by referringto their opponents as KKK.
I still find it strange that the issue of Isaac Ruto and his motion on the ICC is something that ODM keeps trying to remove itself from! When the motion was debated in parliament on 22nd December, The Prime Minister Raila Odinga was in parliament as was Joho who was on that day named as a drug dealer by Saitoti and even stood up to defend himself. These guys cannot come and then tell us that the MPs who voted to take Kenya out were self seekers and lords of impunity when they sat in that house and did not even contribute to the motion opposing it. If anything, of all recorded constributors, only Martha Karua spoke against the motion. In anycase if you look at the contributors on the motion, majority of the speakers were indeed frm ODM.
It is therefore utterly dishonest for Joho, the Prime Minister and by extension ODM hangers-on to come and lecture Kenyans about their holiness on the matter of the ICC.
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Post by merlin on Jan 28, 2011 17:55:31 GMT 3
The statement by Joho - he of the suspected drug dealers (just what kind of characters abound in ODM?) is nothing but laughable. Let us start with this thing of inflamatory remarks about ODM by some armophous group being called KKK or the remarks directed a the PM and the DPM from ODM. First in competitive politics, this name calling will happen and it does not help Joho and ODM by referringto their opponents as KKK. I still find it strange that the issue of Isaac Ruto and his motion on the ICC is something that ODM keeps trying to remove itself from! When the motion was debated in parliament on 22nd December, The Prime Minister Raila Odinga was in parliament as was Joho who was on that day named as a drug dealer by Saitoti and even stood up to defend himself. These guys cannot come and then tell us that the MPs who voted to take Kenya out were self seekers and lords of impunity when they sat in that house and did not even contribute to the motion opposing it. If anything, of all recorded constributors, only Martha Karua spoke against the motion. In anycase if you look at the contributors on the motion, majority of the speakers were indeed frm ODM. It is therefore utterly dishonest for Joho, the Prime Minister and by extension ODM hangers-on to come and lecture Kenyans about their holiness on the matter of the ICC. Kamale,The inert behaviour of ODM members (inclusive the PM) when Isaac Ruto’s motion was debated in parliament on 22nd December, has been discussed here in JUKWAA. (I exclude the group of formally ODM MPs who already walk around with packed suitcases ready to leave) The strategy for this inert behaviour probably will never be known to us. However I am very pleased ODM has changed its behaviour and has made a clear stand against retracting from the Rome statute. I perceive this as a move forwards and in recognition of public opinion in which we all participate by contributing to JUKWAA. Let’s add this to your credits. It is of little use to arrest development by coming back to the incident on 22nd December. Today the world has changed; let’s look forward to tackle the next obstacle towards a better Kenya. AccountabilityI personally would like to see the side stepping of ODM office holders who are named as suspect criminals but realise the road to accountability will take some time and effort. However one day it will happen if we create public awareness by discussing these issues.
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Post by enigma on Jan 28, 2011 18:18:56 GMT 3
The statement by Joho - he of the suspected drug dealers (just what kind of characters abound in ODM?) is nothing but laughable. Let us start with this thing of inflamatory remarks about ODM by some armophous group being called KKK or the remarks directed a the PM and the DPM from ODM. First in competitive politics, this name calling will happen and it does not help Joho and ODM by referringto their opponents as KKK. I still find it strange that the issue of Isaac Ruto and his motion on the ICC is something that ODM keeps trying to remove itself from! When the motion was debated in parliament on 22nd December, The Prime Minister Raila Odinga was in parliament as was Joho who was on that day named as a drug dealer by Saitoti and even stood up to defend himself. These guys cannot come and then tell us that the MPs who voted to take Kenya out were self seekers and lords of impunity when they sat in that house and did not even contribute to the motion opposing it. If anything, of all recorded constributors, only Martha Karua spoke against the motion. In anycase if you look at the contributors on the motion, majority of the speakers were indeed frm ODM. It is therefore utterly dishonest for Joho, the Prime Minister and by extension ODM hangers-on to come and lecture Kenyans about their holiness on the matter of the ICC. Who exactly are ODM hangers-on? What is the definition of such?
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 28, 2011 18:24:16 GMT 3
Thanks Phil for sharing the links. And from those sources here is the latest official communication from ODM: Hassan Ali Joho, Kisauni MP National Organizing Secretary he he he joho really wrote this elegant article? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by politicalmaniac on Jan 28, 2011 18:26:09 GMT 3
The ODM is intent on conducting transparent, free and fair grassroot elections in March. The party's recruitment drive is ON and the party is working on a mechanism where ODM will invite potential members to register electronically and send your registration fee via M-PESA or other direct account. In the meantime, you may register today and inform many others to do so by sending text message of your name and constituency to 3553 so that the database is up-to-date. Finally, for those who thought ODM lacks presence in the cyberspace, I have a surprise for you: Website: www.chungwamoja.co.keTwitter: www.twitter.com/chungwamoja, and Facebook: www.facebook.com/chungwamoja The website alive but also being updated to be made interactive and will be on full throttle soon. You can however register at the website too! Now there is no longer an excuse to blame Nyongo or Ongera. thanks for these I think the 46 or so lurkers in the background will also appreciate them!! ;D
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Post by akinyi2005 on Jan 31, 2011 4:10:15 GMT 3
I see there's lots of positive activity on the ground. Hopefully it's not a bunch of opportunists but those with a genuine desire to revamp the party. Operation clean chama- it's about time. Pressure group sends jitters among top ODM officialsA new pressure group seeking to enforce "internal democracy" within the Orange Democratic Movement is causing anxiety. This comes in the wake of impending grassroots elections with MPs and incumbent officials struggling for survival. The Standard on Sunday has reliably learnt that some party leaders and legislators are opposed to the operations of the Orange Network (Onet) ¡ª a movement comprising well-connected professionals and activists, fearing it could help uproot them from their positions. The group, with representatives in several counties, has launched a national whistle-stop campaign to transform the Orange party into a professionally and democratically run organisation. It is pushing for an overhaul of the party policies and administration to help it sustain its popularity among Kenyans in preparation for next year¡¯s General Election. The caucus members held a consultative meeting at the Stanley Hotel in Nairobi last week, during which the party¡¯s impending elections and its dwindling fortunes in the Rift Valley took centre stage. Democratic space A source said the group¡¯s first major assignment was to replace non-performing officials. "They are seriously campaigning to give ODM a new image. They want the party to open up its democratic space and allow more people to contest for leadership positions," the source said. He said the group was backing a party activist and businessman J T Okinda for the post of secretary general, currently held by Medical Services Minister Anyang¡¯ Nyong¡¯o. Mr Okinda, an architect, and who is the Onet¡¯s patron, said he was seeking to replace Nyong¡¯o. Other Onet members include Kennedy Butiku (chairman), Voi Mayor Hope Mwakio, Jeff Kioi and a team of lawyers and businessmen. But some senior ODM party officials and MPs have been suspicious of the group. "We have received some resistance from the party headquarters. Some MPs and top party officials want to maintain the status quo," said Okinda. Sources also revealed that Onet was on a secret mission to revamp the party in the Rift Valley, where Raila is facing revolt from MPs allied to suspended Higher Education Minister William Ruto. Neither Prof Nyong¡¯o nor the head of the ODM secretariat, Ms Janet Ongera could be reached for comment, but an officer at the party headquarters acknowledged ONET was causing some officers and MPs sleepless nights. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000027812&cid=159&story=
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Post by phil on Feb 8, 2011 10:14:53 GMT 3
NATIONAL ELECTIONS BOARD | Press Statement | 7th FEB 2011
On Thursday 13th January this year, the ODM Party Leader, the Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga, the Prime Minister of the Republic of Kenya, the Deputy Party Leader Hon. Musalia Mudavadi, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Local Government and members of the National Elections Board held consultations at Orange House, the Party Headquarters on the need for the party to conduct grassroots elections inorder to strengthen and rejuvenate the party in readiness for the 2012 General Elections.
During the meeting, it was agreed that the elections be held between Friday 5th to Tuesday 8th March this year starting from the Ward/Locational level, Sub-Branch/Constituency level and then to the County Level. Young Orange Democrats and Women Orange Democrats are also to elect officials.
However, on Thursday last week, at the Party’s Parliamentary Group meeting which was chaired by the Party Leader, assisted by the Deputy Party Leader Hon. Mudavadi and attended by 72 Legislators, concerns were raised in regard to various matters of National importance.
Members said the process of implementation of the New Constitution had gained momentum and that several Bills to that effect are before the house hence the need for them to be given time to concentrate on the matter which is of great value to the Nation. The issue of drought especially in Northern Kenya where ODM commands a large following was also raised and Members of Parliament from the region requested that the exercise be pushed forward until such a time that the situation would have been contained.
However, after having carefully evaluated these concerns, the National Elections Board resolved to postpone both the Party elections and Civic Education exercise.
Now the exercise shall be held as follows, Location/Ward Level, the elections will be held on Saturday 2nd April 2011 for non-SDA Members while the SDA Members will carry out the exercise on Sunday the 3rd of April. Elections for Sub-Branch officials which is the Constituency level shall be held on Monday 4th while the County which is the Branch level shall be held in Tuesday 5th. New dates for Civic Education forums will be announced later in respect to Rift Valley, Central, Eastern, Nyanza and North Eastern Provinces.
We also want to put in place mechanisms that will provide for a level playing field for candidates vying for various seats in the grassroots elections to avoid cases of members accusing each other of rigging the elections one way or the other.
We urge our party supporters to be patient but continue with the recruitment and registration of new members as we look for new dates for the exercise to be held.
Thank you.
Signed today Monday 7th Feb 2011 at Orange House Nairobi.
Hon. Dr. J.K.A Misoi……………………………….. NEB Secretary
Mr. Paul Mbatha……………………………………Commissioner
Cllr. Hellen Katangie………………………………..Commissioner
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 2, 2011 14:12:48 GMT 3
What happened to the grassroot polls . We are already in April .
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Post by phil on May 17, 2011 18:06:49 GMT 3
THE ORANGE DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT
NATIONAL ELECTIONS BOARD
ODM GRASSROOT PARTY ELECTIONS
The National Elections Board is pleased to announce that the Party shall conduct grassroots elections in order: 1. To align the Party Organs with the Constitution of the Republic of Kenya. 2. To devolve Party Organs to the grassroots so as to promote a democratic and accountable management of the Party affairs. • By enhancing the participation of all the members of the Party right from the grassroots to the national level in making Party decision. • To facilitate the decentralization of the Party organs, functions and services to the grassroots members. • To rebrand and rejuvenate the Party so as to maintain its leadership as the most populous and popular Party. Pursuant to a resolution of the Party’s National Governing Council the Board is pleased to remind all ODM members and stakeholders that ODM Grassroots elections earlier announced and postponed will be held as follows:- (i) Sub-location / Kijiji elections on 27th May 2011(ii) Location / Ward grassroots Elections takes place on 28th May 2011(iii) Sub-branch (Constituency) Elections on – 29th May 2011(iv) Branch (County) Elections on – 30th May 2011.Save that the elections for Kakamega and Nairobi Counties; shall be held as follows:- Kakamega County(i) Sub-location / Kijiji elections on – 3rd June 2011(ii) Location / Ward grassroots Elections takes place on 4th June 2011(iii) Sub-branch (Constituency) Elections on – 5th June 2011(iv) Branch (County) Elections on – 6th June 2011Nairobi County(i) Sub-location / Kijiji elections on 3rd June 2011(ii) Location / Ward / Sub-branch (Constituency) takes place on 4th June 2011(iii) Branch (County) Elections on – 5th June 2011These elections will comprise the following Party Organs at all levels; (i) Orange Women Democrats League Elections – 9:00am (ii) Orange Young Democrats League Elections – 12:00pm (iii) Mainstream elections.- 3:00pm All Branch officials and Party members involved in membership recruitment and registration are hereby directed to submit provisional membership registers from their Branches for vetting and scrutiny to County coordinators provided that no member of the Party shall be barred from voting on account of not producing a Party membership card. The Board will be very strict in discharging its electoral mandate to ensure that Democracy prevails in the election process where only loyal and committed members of the Party will participate. Consequently the Board is pleased to advice those who are seeking positions in the Party to note the provisions of the Constitution Art.77 (2) as read with section 15 of the Political Parties Act. The vision of ODM is to build National Leadership based on the 47 County Governments as opposed to the selfish tribal coalitions which have created havoc in Kenya since independence. Finally the Board assures all ODM members that it will consult broadly in the delivery of free, fair and transparent elections Hon. Dr. Misoi Secretary, NEB9th May 2011 GUIDELINES FOR PARTY GRASSROOT ELECTIONS – MAY 2011 A. FOUR-TIER ELECTIONS: 1. Sub location/Kijiji Steering Committee 2. Location/Ward Management Committee 3. Sub Branch (Constituency) Executive Committee 4. Branch (County) Executive Committee B. ELECTIONS SHALL BE HELD IN THE FOLLOWING ORGANS OF THE PARTY:1. Orange Women Democrats 2. Orange Young Democrats 3. Mainstream C. MAINSTREAM:Positions to be vied for at the four (4) levels are as follows: • Chairperson • Deputy Chairperson • Secretary • Deputy Secretary • Treasurer • Deputy Treasurer • Organizing Secretary • Deputy Organizing Secretary • Secretary for Women Affairs • Secretary for Youth Affairs • Two (2) persons representing Special Interest Groups • Eight (8) Committee Members NOTE: AT LEAST ONE THIRD OF THE OFFICIALS MUST BE OF EITHER GENDERD. ORANGE WOMEN DEMOCRATS LEAGUE ELECTIONSThe Orange Women Democrats league elections shall be conducted at the Sub-location/Kijiji steering committee; Location/Ward management committee; Sub-Branch Executive Committee/Constituency and Branch/County Executive Committee as follows: VACANCIES: • Chairperson • Deputy Chairperson • Secretary • Deputy Secretary • Treasurer • Deputy Treasurer • Organizing Secretary • Deputy Organizing Secretary • Two (2) persons representing Special Interest Groups • Eight (8) Committee Members The person elected as the Orange Women Democrats chairperson shall be the Secretary for Women Affairs at the respective levels. E. ORANGE YOUNG DEMOCRATS LEAGUE ELECTIONSThe Orange Young Democrats league elections shall be conducted at the Sub-location/Kijiji steering committee; Location/Ward management committee; Sub-Branch Executive Committee/Constituency and Branch/County Executive Committee as follows: VACANCIES: • Chairperson • Deputy Chairperson • Secretary • Deputy Secretary • Treasurer • Deputy Treasurer • Organizing Secretary • Deputy Organizing Secretary • Two (2) persons representing Special Interest Groups • Eight (8) Committee Members The person elected as the Orange young Democrats chairperson shall be the Secretary for youth Affairs at the respective levels. F. RULES:(a) The Sub Location/Kijiji shall be the basic Electoral unit where universal suffrage shall be used. All party members who are registered in that sub location/Kijiji shall be eligible to vote. (b) All members shall assemble at the designated polling stations and vote by secret ballot or any other method acceptable to the Party members present. (c) They shall be established electoral colleges in the following levels Location/Ward , Sub-Branch (Constituency) and Branch (County) (d) The twenty delegates elected at each Electoral College( in the following levels Location/Ward , Sub-Branch (Constituency) and Branch (County) shall assemble at the designated polling station and vote by secret ballot or any other method acceptable to the delegates present. . G. REQUIREMENTS• National Identity Card • Party membership card • Voter’s Card H. MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS:• All candidates vying for the position of Branch Executive Committee Chairperson must pay an application fee of Kshs. 10,000/= and be life members of the Party. • All candidates vying for the position of Sub-Branch Executive Committee Chairperson must pay an application fee of Kshs. 5,000/= and be life members of the Party. • All candidates for the other Party positions at all level will pay an application fee of KShs. 200/= • Duly filled Application Form for Nomination of a Branch Official For more information, visit www.odm.co.ke or www.facebook.com/chungwamoja & www.twitter.com/chungwamoja Send your name & Constituency to 3553 for ODM news updates.
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Post by politicalmaniac on May 17, 2011 18:19:42 GMT 3
I wonder how the irascible ruto will respond to this time table?
I hope the elections go on smoothly, and ODM seems to be once again ahead of the curve
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Post by roughrider on May 17, 2011 18:19:56 GMT 3
Good move.
I hope PNU and others will follow this example. I also hope ODM does a clean poll and the elected officials become active.
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Post by phil on May 17, 2011 18:32:41 GMT 3
The elections serve to reinvigorate the party at the grassroots as well as resurrect dead branches.
It is an expensive affair for the party, but it is worth it given what democracy is and that we have a general election coming up in a slightly over one year.
The real deal will be the National Delegates Congress which as you note in the announcement above is not set. An NDC shall definitely mean the end of William Ruto and most of his surrogates as members of ODM.
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