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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 26, 2011 12:53:46 GMT 3
The KKK tag has been used by the ODM elite frequently of late , However the PNU elite have requested not to be identified by the tag even going further and writing to NCIC to bar people to use it. Wouldn't it be prudent enough for the politicians using it to stop It.
Reminds me of my primary school days when the backbenchers or the naughty boys created a nickname for a pupil (Tumbiri/Mnyama) and used to ridicule him time and again .
Is it possible to welcome the suggestion and stop using the Tag . starting here in Jukwaa . Charity begins at home
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Post by phil on Feb 26, 2011 13:49:25 GMT 3
;D ;D
You cant be serious.
This is a well known acronym. They started it.
Let them end it.
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Post by man on Feb 26, 2011 14:19:04 GMT 3
The KKK tag was started by non other than Kalonzo himself. Before that the hype was about Uhuru-Ruto alliance aka KK. and Kalonzo in his characteristic kupitia kati kati suggested that another K (read Kamba) be added hence the KKK tag. Someone please post that clip over here. I suggest that ODM continue beating that horse coz it seems to really be effective.
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2011 14:19:31 GMT 3
The KKK tag has been used by the ODM elite frequently of late , However the PNU elite have requested not to be identified by the tag even going further and writing to NCIC to bar people to use it. Wouldn't it be prudent enough for the politicians using it to stop It. Reminds me of my primary school days when the backbenchers or the naughty boys created a nickname for a pupil (Tumbiri/Mnyama) and used to ridicule him time and again . Is it possible to welcome the suggestion and stop using the Tag . starting here in Jukwaa . Charity begins at home It was coined by the three as some sort of trump card. I think it should stick. I for one will not stop using it. Kikuyu Kamba Kalenjin alliance of Kalonzo, Uhuru and Kipsamoei vs the K alliance of all Kenyan tribes (including the akamba, Kamatusa and the agikuyu). Bring it on.
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 26, 2011 14:50:51 GMT 3
Personally I have a strong preference for calling a spade a spade. And I am old enough to know politicians calculate these kind of alliances in private, whether they and we acknowledge it or not. There is a bull's eye on youtube with Kotuny boasting how 'they' coined this term to rattle Raila's dreams. KKK is therefore officially patented. Now, on denials of reality by way of lexiconological purgatorials, the delusions of Kagame's dungeon of a state should be studied. The concepts Hutu and Tutsi are banned from usage in official discourse. But land in Kigali, the first question in the eye is are you H or T? Serious sociological and historical analysis have become impossible for local academicians who have to avoid self-explanatory concepts and get lost in the jungle of political correctness. So Rwandans produce two papers, an illigal one for the international market where they use Hutu and Tutsi as terminologies, and a local one to suave Kagame's jumpy nerves.
I will stay real and use this KKK concept whenever I find it appropriate and meaninful. So the day Oloo bans it, I will be off Jukwaa.
But please let somebody experiment with an article on UK and Kibaki without mentioning Kikuyu.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 26, 2011 16:11:11 GMT 3
The KKK tag has been used by the ODM elite frequently of late , However the PNU elite have requested not to be identified by the tag even going further and writing to NCIC to bar people to use it. Wouldn't it be prudent enough for the politicians using it to stop It. Reminds me of my primary school days when the backbenchers or the naughty boys created a nickname for a pupil (Tumbiri/Mnyama) and used to ridicule him time and again . Is it possible to welcome the suggestion and stop using the Tag . starting here in Jukwaa . Charity begins at home Hey Now Way Ha Ha:You are being mischievous. Click on the link below and see how far back the term has been in use: majimbokenya.com/home/2008/10/14/embattled-kenyan-vp-judas-iscariot-now-forms-triple-kkk-to-encounter-mt-kenya-iron-ladyunstoppable-euphoria-in-central-and-eastern/Onyango Oloo Nairobi
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Post by reporter911 on Feb 26, 2011 16:25:50 GMT 3
The KKK tag has been used by the ODM elite frequently of late , However the PNU elite have requested not to be identified by the tag even going further and writing to NCIC to bar people to use it. Wouldn't it be prudent enough for the politicians using it to stop It. Reminds me of my primary school days when the backbenchers or the naughty boys created a nickname for a pupil (Tumbiri/Mnyama) and used to ridicule him time and again . Is it possible to welcome the suggestion and stop using the Tag . starting here in Jukwaa . Charity begins at home HERE ARE FACTS HOW "KKK" WAS COINED AT A MEETING BY RUTO, UHURU, KALONZO & CO! THEY CLAIM "KKK" ALLIANCE WAS THE KEY THAT OPENED KIBAKI'S DOOR TO THEM THEY EVEN REGISTERED IT ALREADY FOR 2011 ;D ;D
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 26, 2011 17:30:03 GMT 3
;D ;D You cant be serious. This is a well known acronym. They started it. Let them end it. Now that they have requested people to stop using it , would it be prudent enough and respect their democratic right by stop using the acronym
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 26, 2011 20:03:05 GMT 3
;D ;D You cant be serious. This is a well known acronym. They started it. Let them end it. Now that they have requested people to stop using it , would it be prudent enough and respect their democratic right by stop using the acronym he he he The Panuarers realized just how foolishly stupid that idea was. It was clearly meant to contract the democratic space, by creating the infamous baba na mama political zones of exclusion. Imagine that ODMers could not go to RV, Central and Lower Eastern! Very early on I attacked this idea on many fronts including the fact what were the other 40 tribes gonna do? Much to my amusement, I found out that the base elements of the much vaunted hypothetical alliance, from Central and RV were not really amigos as such. There were no kumbayah yesu tukute tendereza moments of hugs and cheek kisses amongst those fellows on the ground. On the WWW, there was no brush fires touting the formation of the idea. The intelligentsia of both communities were left scratching their heads in unison wondering WTF are these two clowns jomo jnr/ruto talking about yet there are a myriad of problems and unsettled issues between the two communities. What instead happened was the the other communities recoiled at the brazen tribalistic hegemony represented by that insane idea. It was as retrogressive as it was repulsive. It represented the worst of the past regimes. The jomo jnr/ruto/judas created the monster. They are running away from it because they know that the idea wont work at all, but also its just damm scary to other 40 tribes. They will unite against them for sure. And win!! No slap that label on them and tatoo it on their foreheads for all to see. Long live the mythical KKK ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tnk on Feb 26, 2011 20:37:23 GMT 3
;D ;D You cant be serious. This is a well known acronym. They started it. Let them end it. Now that they have requested people to stop using it , would it be prudent enough and respect their democratic right by stop using the acronym the beauty of an electric switch is in its operation. switch it on and voila some appliance comes on or starts working. switch it off and the appliance goes off. if only life was such....... unfortunately these people playing games with peoples lives think they can do just that. spoilt brats is what they are
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Post by Luol Deng on Feb 26, 2011 23:29:28 GMT 3
They took the KKK skunk on their necks hoping that it would do damage to the opposition. When it did its thing on them they now want to disown it??
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2011 23:39:55 GMT 3
The KKK tag has been used by the ODM elite frequently of late , However the PNU elite have requested not to be identified by the tag even going further and writing to NCIC to bar people to use it. Wouldn't it be prudent enough for the politicians using it to stop It. Reminds me of my primary school days when the backbenchers or the naughty boys created a nickname for a pupil (Tumbiri/Mnyama) and used to ridicule him time and again . Is it possible to welcome the suggestion and stop using the Tag . starting here in Jukwaa . Charity begins at home No way, Ask them to ask us nicely.
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Post by mwinyi on Feb 27, 2011 9:35:04 GMT 3
I have been laughing all the way reading through this thread. what were they thinking when they started KKK? i guess they see its not working for them and many things won't be going their way in the coming days so they will have to cry many things to not be used anymore. the moment the ocampo 6 face their destiny maybe " judas" will also tell people to stop saying jomo jnr and ruto were his friends once upon a time. this man should be thinking so hard before he says anything else
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 27, 2011 13:12:28 GMT 3
I have been laughing all the way reading through this thread. what were they thinking when they started KKK? i guess they see its not working for them and many things won't be going their way in the coming days so they will have to cry many things to not be used anymore. the moment the ocampo 6 face their destiny maybe " judas" will also tell people to stop saying jomo jnr and ruto were his friends once upon a time. this man should be thinking so hard before he says anything else You can laugh all you want but you lest forget how the 2008 Country Meltdown came about . It was the Orange Elite who Put the "whole country" against the "Mt Kenya" using such utterances .This is allover the Youtube mind you. Calling people Bhang Smokers and you are a whole PRIME MINISTER OF KENYA - Surely
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Post by palaver on Feb 27, 2011 20:53:35 GMT 3
Since when did it become a taboo to condemn vices such as bhang smoking,grand looting and reckless drinking as a leader? noway... its wrong as a leader to bang tables when you do not get your way and reason that leadership qualities come from below the belt. At this rate,the pm will always defeat these guys at there own game.
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Post by okolowaka on Feb 27, 2011 20:57:58 GMT 3
I have been laughing all the way reading through this thread. what were they thinking when they started KKK? i guess they see its not working for them and many things won't be going their way in the coming days so they will have to cry many things to not be used anymore. the moment the ocampo 6 face their destiny maybe " judas" will also tell people to stop saying jomo jnr and ruto were his friends once upon a time. this man should be thinking so hard before he says anything else You can laugh all you want but you lest forget how the 2008 Country Meltdown came about . It was the Orange Elite who Put the "whole country" against the "Mt Kenya" using such utterances .This is allover the Youtube mind you. Calling people Bhang Smokers and you are a whole PRIME MINISTER OF KENYA - Surely No Way Haha, I know many people smoke bhang in Kenya, many people who smoke but did not go out shouting themselves hoarse, mouth frothing, spewing insults all over just because the PM said some people smoke bhang...it is Uhuru who draws all attention to himself by such outbursts that he did not not think through before letting out. About the KKK tag...remember the saying "...Right back at you..." Just a few months ago Uhuru, Ruto and Musyoka started this KKK thing themselves, it is their baby, we all know that, and will keep on reminding them till Shiloh.... If it walks like KKK, if it thinks like KKK, if it talks like KKK...then by Thor, it is KKK...! On the matter of the child named KKK; Uhuru, Ruto and Musyoka... You are the father!
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Post by politicalmaniac on Feb 27, 2011 21:19:35 GMT 3
You can laugh all you want but you lest forget how the 2008 Country Meltdown came about . It was the Orange Elite who Put the "whole country" against the "Mt Kenya" using such utterances .This is allover the Youtube mind you. Calling people Bhang Smokers and you are a whole PRIME MINISTER OF KENYA - Surely Stealing elections has consequences, and as you can see, the folks charged with PEV with clear evidence against them are the Panuarers kina jomo jnr, Ali, Muthaura (he is on tape self incriminating himself). And if a guy smokes bhangi we surely cant say he is smoking a nicotine laden cigarette!!
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Post by wafwaf1 on Feb 28, 2011 17:25:20 GMT 3
This is among the 1st in a series of many blunders the "youthful leaders" are going to commit before 2012. RAO is very good at noticing an opportunity and using it to the maximum. the KKK tag is going to stick till 2017. In reverse psychology, you discourage some people from doing something by encouraging them to do it. My free advise to the KKK frontliners is to out there singing the KKK tune. RAO will stop using it immediately. but will they do this knowing the backlash from the non-k tribes?
By the way which between asking some crowd whether "kwanu huko hague ni kwa nyina ?" and "kuna vijana wengine nchi hii wakiamka tu ni kutafuta bangi na kuiba hapa na pale" is an insult?
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Post by wafwaf1 on Feb 28, 2011 18:11:19 GMT 3
On Saturday 26, February 2011 a friend of mine led me to a headline story "Scramble for top Jobs..? There were 10 positions with names and pictures of the current office holders. I am sad to note that apart from the Chief of the general staff and the Chairman of the IIEC, the rest are being held by members from the mt Kenya region. i really thank God for the new constitution and i hope it will be implemented seamlessly. The demand for regional representation and the face of Kenya should come out. No wonder RAO is demanding that the PSC for example should be reconstituted.
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Post by enigma on Feb 28, 2011 22:35:51 GMT 3
Guys kalonzo musyoka of the kkk fame is To launch shuttle diplomacy part 2. Please find the petition to UNSC on face book and "like". While kkk guns for 2million signatures, let's give them 5 million. I will post the facebook link here once am at a pc.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 8, 2011 10:03:18 GMT 3
Tribal tagging for political mobilization letter to the Chairman, National Cohesion and Integration Commission
My attention has been drawn to the ongoing debate about the so-called Kikuyu, Kalenjin and Kamba alliance (KKK). I note with grave concern that the so-called KKK has been associated with myself and other leaders.
To the best of my understanding, the branding of certain leaders as KKK is divisive because it purports to bring together some communities to the exclusion of others. This is against national unity, integration and cohesion. Further, the KKK tag is against the spirit of the new Constitution that the country recently enacted. It is instructive to note that the current debate on the KKK tag is taking the same pattern reminiscent of the perceptions that fueled tribal animosity and tagging for political mobilisation in the run up to the 2007 election. This misinformation, actively propagated from certain quarters, has the potential of pitting other communities against the said communities illegitimately associated with the KKK and vice versa and must be stopped forthwith. The KKK tag is being used as a tool to deny certain leaders the right of association.
Mr Chairman, the continued referral to the KKK tag and further association of it with myself, despite my repeated public rejection of the idea of tribal alliances, can only be interpreted as a deliberate and sustained campaign to malign my name and good standing among Kenyans of all walks of life, ethnicity and creed. Further, it is designed to portray me as having an agenda that is tribalistic, exclusionary and against the principles of cohesion.
The irresponsible use of this tag by certain politicians, foreign diplomats and its perpetuation by the media is creating a fertile ground for retrogressive politics of ethnicity and tribalism and must be construed as hate speech. Additionally, the KKK tag is designed to deny me my constitutional right to associate with other leaders from all walks of life and all parts of the country. It is my constitutional right to associate with other Kenyans without tribal tags being pinned on me.
Mr Chairman, in respect of the foregoing and in the interest of public good and furtherance of your statutory mandate, I ask that you give guidance to the country to the effect that the continued use of the KKK tag is against national unity, cohesion and integration.
I also request you to declare that the KKK tag is being used to set communities against one another. I ask your commission to investigate those propagating the KKK tag and their intentions and, if found guilty, to prosecute them. We cannot afford to see our beloved country succumb to the dark forces of ethnic bigotry, impunity and hatred as it did in the last election. I deem it my personal responsibility as a nationalist, a citizen and a leader to play my role in ensuring that this does not happen.
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Post by tnk on Mar 8, 2011 11:16:47 GMT 3
Guys kalonzo musyoka of the kkk fame is To launch shuttle diplomacy part 2. Please find the petition to UNSC on face book and "like". While kkk guns for 2million signatures, let's give them 5 million. I will post the facebook link here once am at a pc. are you building the PC from scratch? ;D
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