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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 29, 2011 19:44:34 GMT 3
Why I will attend the two funeral dirges at The Hague on April 7th & 8th, 2011
By Miguna Miguna, March 26, 2011
Like my hero the late great Pan-African revolutionary Bantu Steve Biko wrote before he was assassinated by the Apartheid regime – I Write What I like. But I write responsibly, of course. The Constitution of Kenya entrenches and protects my right to free expression and speech. And so do various international instruments. On April 7th and 8th, 2011, I intend to exercise two other fundamental rights and freedoms the Constitution guarantees me: the right of association and travel.
I plan to accompany two of Luis Moreno-Ocampo’s celebrated Kenyan indictees - Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto - to The Hague. I am not planning to attend as a lawyer, though, as a well-trained and experienced Barrister and Solicitor, I am more than qualified to hold brief for the two. I haven’t been retained and instructed; and I don’t want to be accused of soliciting.
Nor will I be there as a spy. There isn’t anything to spy on since the ICC process is transparent and the two will appear in open court. Moreover, full details of the charges the two are facing have been published locally and abroad. The user-friendly ICC website where the charges and summonses have been posted is accessible to everyone in the world. That site contains everything anybody would like to know about the cases, minus the identities of witnesses. Moreover, on April 7th and 8th, no witnesses will be called. No actual court proceeding will ensue. So, unless Uhuru and Ruto intend to detour to herbalist Ambilikile Mwasapila’s miracle “clinic” in Loliondo, Tanzania, there will be nothing to spy on.
I actually could have represented the two “presidential front-runners,” pro bono, if they were facing similar charges the Kapenguria Six faced. In Toronto, Canada, I specialized in defending those brutalized and mistreated by the Police. In my fifteen years of active litigation, I did more than my fair share of malicious prosecutions, illegal arrests and unlawful detentions. I got lots of innocent victims of police abuse of power from the jaws of racist criminal justice system. I know a thing or two about being framed. After all, I attended two blue-laced universities in Canada: the venerable University of Toronto and the inimitable Osgoode Hall Law School of York University.
I have absolutely nothing against some back-street commercial college Uhuru attended in the U.S.A. That a person with no intellectual, commercial or artistic flair – and who has never been gainfully employed through merit - would be considered a “presidential front-runner” by an incumbent president whose legitimacy is questionable, is a phenomenon only a Kenya can explain to the world. In North America and Europe, they swirl around military heroes, tested performers, industry titans and custodians of integrity. Oratorical flair comes in to boost the pith of one’s character; not as a convenient substitute to substance.
Wealth is a poisoned chalice in North American politics if its sources are murky. Not in Kenya. In Kenya, it is how much wealth one has – regardless of its sources and no matter the ethical pedigree of its wielder – that determines one’s “status” in life. Even before the “Sonko” phenomenon, those occupying exalted positions in life neither earned nor merited them.
The problem is that unlike my heroes, Steve Biko, Nelson Mandela, Chris Hani, Joe Slove, Govan Mbeki and Walter Sisulu who suffered treacherously but courageously waging war against the Apartheid regime in South Africa; Uhuru and Ruto are facing charges at The Hague for crimes against humanity because they allegedly slaughtered innocent Kenyan civilians. Before that, they excelled in YK’92! Uhuru and Ruto are what one might call “historical eye sores”.
Uhuru and Ruto are not facing sedition or treason charges. Had Mungiki been a liberation movement – like the Mau Mau and the Umkonto we Ziswe - Uhuru could have earned my pro bono services. But the ICC has accused Uhuru, not of fighting to free the poor and downtrodden Kenyans from poverty, police brutality and abuse; he is facing charges for allegedly using the Mungiki to butcher innocent Luos, Luhyas and Kalenjins in Naivasha and Nakuru for parochial political interests during the post-election violence. Ruto, on the other hand, is accused of burning women and children alive in a church in Eldoret.
Of course, Uhuru and Ruto have asserted their innocence in public rallies and funerals. And as a lawyer, I accord them the benefits of doubt that all accused persons are entitled to. The problem, however, is that I watched, like many others, the sickening bloodbath and tragic barbarism that saw thousands murdered, maimed, raped and displaced in 2007/8. The Pre-Trial Chamber II of the ICC, which is the only competent and credible judicial authority that has independently and impartially assessed Moreno-Ocampo’s evidence, unanimously agree - even the dissenting judge agreed - that Uhuru Kenyatta, William Ruto, Henry Kosgey, Husein Ali and Joshua Sang, are most responsible for those crimes and should therefore stand trial.
Because of the catalogue of crimes against humanity that the ICC has assembled against the Ocampo Six, I intend to travel to The Hague as a spectator to the mourning sessions that the two “celebrated” indictees plan to unveil at The Hague on April 7th. According to various media reports, Uhuru and Ruto are planning to perform the most breath-taking political dirges that have never been seen before. Using a cast of forty MPs - the “Honourable Mourning Troupe” – Uhuru and Ruto will conduct rehearsals in Parliament Buildings, Nairobi; the JKIA and the Amsterdam Schiphol Airport; and hold the final performance at The Hague on both April 7th and 8th.
The “Mother of all Funerals” will be staged at The Hague. The chief drummers and trumpeters will be from the infamous YK’92 Troupe. The PNU/KKK and Ocampo Groupies have hired mugithi, nyatiti and sukuti dancers who will stage dazzling traditional dirges that have never been seen before. The two “presidential front-runners” are conducting their political funerals ahead of time. I don’t want to miss the show. That’s why I am traveling to The Hague.
Political burial arrangements will be announced later, possibly after the confirmation hearings in November!
Miguna is the PM’s advisor on Coalition Affairs. The views expressed here are his own.
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Post by mzee on Mar 29, 2011 20:14:08 GMT 3
Miguna Miguna hits these people on the head like no other. But he does so with with loads of facts.
We told akina Uhuru to wait for the real dance, that will be staged at the Hague. But they refused and kept dancing all night long shouting Raila. Now that the stage has been set at The Hague, I hope that they won't arrive there lame from all the rigorous tribal dances they have been performing.
I no longer pity these two fellows Ruto and Uhuru for they don't have any remorse. They killed people yet they are abusing the relatives of those they killed. Pretending that nothing happened and trying to make Kenyans forget. Thanks God majority of Kenyans still remember the butcher in Naivasha.
The church that William Ruto ordered burnt plus its occupants is pretty near his home. If my knowledge serves me right, he has not visited the church area ones to show remorse. Yet he has been to every part of the country shouting Raila. He does not care.
I hope that these guys are locked in for a long long time. What a blessing in disguise.
Kenyans should start celebrating for the worst criminals have eliminated themselves from occupying the highest office in the land. We cannot have a bunch of criminals seeking office. Let them go and answer charges at the Hague. Why all the noise .
And if they say that the Hague issue is a way of eliminating them from contesting for president, so be it. I'm happy that's what it is.
If they claim that its Raila who sent them to the Hague, so be it. All Kenyans must pat Raila on the back and say bravo. He has saved us from the marauding thugs.
Lakini ukweli utatatoka hivi karibuni.
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Post by nalinali on Mar 29, 2011 20:36:13 GMT 3
I will fault Miguna on one thing though. Amherst College is one of America's leading Liberal Arts colleges. It always shares the number one spot in college rankings with another Western Massachusetts College: Williams College. It is far from the Back-street commercial Colleges Miguna conjures up with relish to fault the subject of his writerly attention. Uhuru attended Amherst College. That he has turned out to be what he is does not take away the fact that at one point he attended America's leading College. There are some facts Miguna would do to check out with just a simple google click.
I ain't no sympathizer with Uhuru or the Ocampo six, but this article by Miguna is way over the top if not gloatingly obtuse. It offends my better sensibilities. (It could be my personal failing and i do not wish to project it on any other reader of the same)Someone should tell him to temper his counsel with moderation considering his "haloed" position next to Raila.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 20:41:43 GMT 3
I was woken up by a shrill cry piercing my slumber - Hon Miguna is arrested and will be going to the Hague!
I said "what?" - as I gathered my wits from my reverie. You see these days I have a haphazard sleep patterns, what with the Rt Hon Name sakes bothering me me now and then for a feeding session, coupled with the jet lag I guess.
So I go to the post and I start reading and start laughing mpaka I start tearing! ;D ;D
Oh man I just love Hon Miguna's erudite, humorous, sharp, hard hiting when need be, factual, flowing and witty prose style. No wonder I cant stand the how kina gaitho write, and especially makau. Their style is so stale, its like they are paraphrasing some inebriated bar talk. I will not comment on the PNU propagandist who made a detour here yesterday. He cant write jack!
I wish Hon Miguna a safe trip and please Sir, give us a daily digest of what happened there. Indeed follow them and spy on them.
Hata kama they will detour in the various red light districts go there and document it!
Hata kama wata nunua bhangi and start sucking on the bhangi cigarettes to relieve stress, tell us!!
Personally I still find it hard that they will indeed go to the Hague. What is there to gain? Esp for muthaura and jomo jnr who continue to defy court orders to step down from office.
Ngoja tuu mpaka they are nabbed then we shall see!!
Oh man I am loving this!! ;D ;D
Washindwe!
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Post by mank on Mar 29, 2011 20:41:44 GMT 3
Why I will attend the two funeral dirges at The Hague on April 7th & 8th, 2011 By Miguna Miguna, March 26, 2011
Like my hero the late great Pan-African revolutionary Bantu Steve Biko wrote before he was assassinated by the Apartheid regime –I Write What I like. But I write responsibly, of course. The Constitution of Kenya entrenches and protects my right to free expression and speech.
And so do various international instruments. On April 7th and 8th, 2011, I intend to exercise two other fundamental rights and freedoms the Constitution guarantees me: the right of association and travel.
I plan to accompany two of Luis Moreno-Ocampo’s celebrated Kenyan indictees - Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto - to The Hague. I am not planning to attend as a lawyer, though, as a well-trained and experienced Barrister and Solicitor, I am more than qualified to hold brief for the two. I haven’t been retained and instructed; and I don’t want to be accused of soliciting.
Nor will I be there as a spy. There isn’t anything to spy on since the ICC process is transparent and the two will appear in open court. Moreover, full details of the charges the two are facing have been published locally and abroad. The user-friendly ICC website where the charges and summonses have been posted is accessible to everyone in the world.
That site contains everything anybody would like to know about the cases, minus the identities of witnesses. Moreover, on April 7th and 8th, no witnesses will be called. No actual court proceeding will ensue. So, unless Uhuru and Ruto intend to detour to herbalist Ambilikile Mwasapila’s miracle “clinic” in Loliondo, Tanzania, there will be nothing to spy on.
I actually could have represented the two “presidential front-runners,” pro bono, if they were facing similar charges the Kapenguria Six faced. In Toronto, Canada, I specialized in defending those brutalized and mistreated by the Police.
I have absolutely nothing against some back-street commercial college Uhuru attended in the U.S.A. That a person with no intellectual, commercial or artistic flair – and who has never been gainfully employed through merit - would be considered a “presidential front-runner” by an incumbent president whose legitimacy is questionable, is a phenomenon only a Kenya can explain to the world. In North America and Europe, they swirl around military heroes, tested performers, industry titans and custodians of integrity. Oratorical flair comes in to boost the pith of one’s character; not as a convenient substitute to substance.
Wealth is a poisoned chalice in North American politics if its sources are murky. Not in Kenya. In Kenya, it is how much wealth one has – regardless of its sources and no matter the ethical pedigree of its wielder – that determines one’s “status” in life. Even before the “Sonko” phenomenon, those occupying exalted positions in life neither earned nor merited them.
The problem is that unlike my heroes, Steve Biko, Nelson Mandela, Chris Hani, Joe Slove, Govan Mbeki and Walter Sisulu who suffered treacherously but courageously waging war against the Apartheid regime in South Africa; Uhuru and Ruto are facing charges at The Hague for crimes against humanity because they allegedly slaughtered innocent Kenyan civilians. Before that, they excelled in YK’92! Uhuru and Ruto are what one might call “historical eye sores”.
Uhuru and Ruto are not facing sedition or treason charges. Had Mungiki been a liberation movement – like the Mau Mau and the Umkonto we Ziswe - Uhuru could have earned my pro bono services.
But the ICC has accused Uhuru, not of fighting to free the poor and downtrodden Kenyans from poverty, police brutality and abuse; he is facing charges for allegedly using the Mungiki to butcher innocent Luos, Luhyas and Kalenjins in Naivasha and Nakuru for parochial political interests during the post-election violence. Ruto, on the other hand, is accused of burning women and children alive in a church in Eldoret.
Of course, Uhuru and Ruto have asserted their innocence in public rallies and funerals. And as a lawyer, I accord them the benefits of doubt that all accused persons are entitled to. The problem, however, is that I watched, like many others, the sickening bloodbath and tragic barbarism that saw thousands murdered, maimed, raped and displaced in 2007/8.
The Pre-Trial Chamber II of the ICC, which is the only competent and credible judicial authority that has independently and impartially assessed Moreno-Ocampo’s evidence, unanimously agree - even the dissenting judge agreed - that Uhuru Kenyatta, William Ruto, Henry Kosgey, Husein Ali and Joshua Sang, are most responsible for those crimes and should therefore stand trial.
Because of the catalogue of crimes against humanity that the ICC has assembled against the Ocampo Six, I intend to travel to The Hague as a spectator to the mourning sessions that the two “celebrated” indictees plan to unveil at The Hague on April 7th.
According to various media reports, Uhuru and Ruto are planning to perform the most breath-taking political dirges that have never been seen before. Using a cast of forty MPs - the “Honourable Mourning Troupe” – Uhuru and Ruto will conduct rehearsals in Parliament Buildings, Nairobi; the JKIA and the Amsterdam Schiphol Airport; and hold the final performance at The Hague on both April 7th and 8th.
The “Mother of all Funerals” will be staged at The Hague. The chief drummers and trumpeters will be from the infamous YK’92 Troupe. The PNU/KKK and Ocampo Groupies have hired mugithi, nyatiti and sukuti dancers who will stage dazzling traditional dirges that have never been seen before.
The two “presidential front-runners” are conducting their political funerals ahead of time. I don’t want to miss the show. That’s why I am traveling to The Hague.
Political burial arrangements will be announced later, possibly after the confirmation hearings in November!
Miguna is the PM’s advisor on Coalition Affairs. The views expressed here are his own. How filthy is this gonna get? Is this kind of writing by any chance the stuff we are usually referring to when we talk of Jukwaa being great? If that be it, we could as well go make money selling skunk extracts for manukato. We would have to be a great sales force, because people actually believe it when we glorify Jukwaa.
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Post by nalinali on Mar 29, 2011 20:47:48 GMT 3
I was woken up by a shrill cry piercing my slumber - Hon Miguna is arrested and will be going to the Hague! I said "what?" - as I gathered my wits from my reverie. You see these days I have a haphazard sleep patterns, what with the Rt Hon Name sakes bothering me me now and then for a feeding session, coupled with the jet lag I guess. So I go to the post and I start reading and start laughing mpaka I start tearing! ;D ;D Oh man I just love Hon Miguna's erudite, humorous, sharp, hard hiting when need be, factual, flowing and witty prose style. No wonder I cant stand the how kina gaitho write, and especially makau. Their style is so stale, its like they are paraphrasing some inebriated bar talk. I will not comment on the PNU propagandist who made a detour here yesterday. He cant write jack! I wish Hon Miguna a safe trip and please Sir, give us a daily digest of what happened there. Indeed follow them and spy on them. Hata kama they will detour in the various red light districts go there and document it! Hata kama wata nunua bhangi and start sucking on the bhangi cigarettes to relieve stress, tell us!! Personally I still find it hard that they will indeed go to the Hague. What is there to gain? Esp for muthaura and jomo jnr who continue to defy court orders to step down from office. PM Ngoja tuu mpaka they are nabbed then we shall see!! Oh man I am loving this!! ;D ;D Washindwe! The last six or so sentences spoils the thrust of the article and it is not humor any more.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 20:51:43 GMT 3
How filthy is this gonna get? Is this kind of writing by any chance the stuff we are usually referring to when we talk of Jukwaa being great? If that be it, we could as well go make money selling skunk extracts for manukato. We would have to be a great sales force, because people actually believe it when we glorify Jukwaa. This article by Hon Miguna is one of nuanced humor, read between the lines!! kie kie kie For once, dont act reflexively with alarm and despondency when you encounter Hon Miguna's name! ;D ;D
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Post by mank on Mar 29, 2011 21:07:15 GMT 3
How filthy is this gonna get? Is this kind of writing by any chance the stuff we are usually referring to when we talk of Jukwaa being great? If that be it, we could as well go make money selling skunk extracts for manukato. We would have to be a great sales force, because people actually believe it when we glorify Jukwaa. This article by Hon Miguna is one of nuanced humor, read between the lines!! kie kie kie For once, dont act reflexively with alarm and despondency when you encounter Hon Miguna's name! ;D ;D PM, Its not just the character assassination and blatant untruths that bothers me. Its the mediocrity. Personally I have never found humor in calling one a fool, even when that person seems a perfect definition of one. But Uhuru is not even the fool Miguna presents of him. A while ago I would never have said this, because I had not seriously listened to the man talk. As it has been pointed out already, Uhuru went to a reputable school in US, and not any low rag tag school that Miguna alleges. So what's left to impress? The hateful poetry that has its richness only in lies and uninformed allegations, or the act of naming actual people like Biko, Mandela and Ambilikile Mwasapila and his miracles? What is great about Miguna's writing?
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 21:09:32 GMT 3
The last six or so sentences spoils the thrust of the article and it is not humor any more. kie kie ;D ;D Dont take yourself to seriously, and BTW, even if jomo jnr attended Amerherst he has nothing to show for it. What did he study BTW and did he even graduate? The Rt Hon Prime Minister is one of those rare fellows who translated his degree into something substantial, something you can see, touch and experience, something that actually helps hundreds of thousands of households and employs a few hundreds. They love to hate the Rt Hon Prime Minsiter, but NONE OF THESE blank blank blank will ever match his illustrious record. They love asking kwani ametufanyia nini? What has he done? Jeez they have the temerity to ask what has he done? Have these fellows ever bothered reading up on his accomplishments? First of all, Without the Rt Hon Prime Minister, the democratic space in this country that enables those loose tongues to keep up their virulent attacks may not be that wide! Imagine if kipkorios had succeeded in imposing his manchurian candidate jomo jnr on us. Now you have the willy old kleptrocrat pulling the puppet strings on this obstreperous, rabid, arrogant , perpetually angry, bhangi loving, mungiki embracing, mega tribalist. If you consider the sloth as "bad", then this useless tribalist would be bad squared! Thank goodness he is finished! Imagine the optics of him being on the docks of the ICC!! NOTHING could be sadder and more damning. Those pics will be priceless, in fact they will form my avatar!! No wonder Ngina is raving mad, and the lame duck P.O.R.K is feeling the heat!! I am loving this!! ;D I just hope they dont go to the wa nina of all courts in the Hague, I just want more drama, and see the noose tightening on their necks as they acquire the tag - ICC fugitive so and so. I want them to be exposed, and de-fanged, esp jomo jnr. I fear that son of a gun. I really do. He sends shivers down my spine. Having watched him on Utube exhorting his tribesmen and women to back him up, expressing his baseless virulent psychopathic hate for the Rt Hon Prime Minister, and his contempt for Luos, I really really fear him. I fear the arcing motion his wildly gesticulating arms make as he points skywards and to the audience, and makes the hacking - machete motion with his fingers aligned like one. I fear his red (bhangi?) rabid feral eyes. The guys forceful rhetoric scares the bejeezus outta me, esp when he speaks in code. I fear him, for mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka. We know jomo jnr sent njenga to assasinate TJM. This guy is capable of anything. So, they may go to the Hague round hii, but dont count on them seeing through the whole process.
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Post by nalinali on Mar 29, 2011 21:18:25 GMT 3
The last six or so sentences spoils the thrust of the article and it is not humor any more. kie kie ;D ;D Dont take yourself to seriously, and BTW, even if jomo jnr attended Amerherst he has nothing to show for it. What did he study BTW and did he even graduate? The Rt Hon Prime Minister is one of those rare fellows who translated his degree into something substantial, something you can see, touch and experience, something that actually helps hundreds of thousands of households and employs a few hundreds. They love to hate the Rt Hon Prime Minsiter, but NONE OF THESE blank blank blank will ever match his illustrious record. They love asking kwani ametufanyia nini? What has he done? Jeez they have the temerity to ask what has he done? Have these fellows ever bothered reading up on his accomplishments? First of all, Without the Rt Hon Prime Minister, the democratic space in this country that enables those loose tongues to keep up their virulent attacks may not be that wide! Imagine if kipkorios had succeeded in imposing his manchurian candidate jomo jnr on us. Now you have the willy old kleptrocrat pulling the puppet strings on this obstreperous, rabid, arrogant , perpetually angry, bhangi loving, mungiki embracing, mega tribalist. If you consider the sloth as "bad", then this useless tribalist would be bad squared! Thank goodness he is finished! Imagine the optics of him being on the docks of the ICC!! NOTHING could be sadder and more damning. Those pics will be priceless, in fact they will form my avatar!! No wonder Ngina is raving mad, and the lame duck P.O.R.K is feeling the heat!! I am loving this!! ;D I just hope they dont go to the wa nina of all courts in the Hague, I just want more drama, and see the noose tightening on their necks as they acquire the tag - ICC fugitive so and so. I want them to be exposed, and de-fanged, esp jomo jnr. I fear that son of a gun. I really do. He sends shivers down my spine. so they may go to the Hague round hii, but dont count on them seeing through the whole process. PM Of course I am taking it easy but if the level-headedness of Jukwaa is to be applied, that piece by Miguna sticks out in aberration more because of the poorly framed style. Where do you get the idea that Uhuru did not graduate? One can fault Uhuru in other ways and there are myriad trajectories such an enterprise would take considering the ever piling evidentiary material that Uhuru's "passionate intensity" churns out in the face of an apparent Waterloo that is the ICC. One (and especially an adviser to the PM) need not fall captive to the contagion of flippant speech. Wit, sarcasm, and humor when well deployed, distinguishes themselves from cheap market place exuberance.
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 29, 2011 21:23:46 GMT 3
I rarely comment on the miguna pieces. I simply post them because I have access to them and I let others comment. But I do reserve the right to raise any concerns people have about them with Miguna himself who is a close friend. These pieces are also published in the Nairobi Star.
Miguna is a polarizing figure to some. So for those who think his language here is a bit heavy and have raised specific concerns rest assured I will discuss those with him.
For someone like mank who has twice raised concerns about Miguna's pieces without as much as pointing out one specific issue of concern, it might be helpful to respond to the specific issues. I don't think trying to insult jukwaa as entity, something mank has done more than once without raising things that people can actually respond to is of any help. Nobody is imprisoned in jukwaa.
Miguna is not jukwaa. Miguna is one of the 1,500 or more folks including yourself who are free to post stuff in jukwaa. So if you want to have a pissing contest with Miguna, please feel free to do so.
What do I think about this article? Actually I got it yesterday and had to decide what to do. Usually I don't even waste that kind of time thinking about stuff. I trust Miguna's work so I just usually post them. I had a few concerns about this. I like the bulk of the piece, but by nature I do not hammer people when they are down even when they are outright scumbags.
I have been pissed with Uhuru's brazen ethnic foolishness and running amok in Central Province insulting communities and engaging in most ugly form of ethnic hatred we have seen in the country for a very long time. So we took it too Uhuru with no mercy.
Even Macharia Gaitho, hardly a card carrying member of ODM called Uhuru's nonsense what it is, namely preaching ethnic hatred. So I think Uhuru's ethnic orgy backfired on him real bad where it matters. It also put him on a collusion path with Ocampo. But once that message is delivered I would rather give Uhuru more rope to do the necessary than keep kicking his miserable butt. So Iwouldn't necessarily say some of the things Miguna is saying.
My approach, which is well known with my colleagues and even workmates is that I try to tell people even the most annoying thing to them in a way that will send them laughing until they get the gist. My friends tell me I am capable of sending a person to the gallows with a smile in their face.
Next weekend for example we will have a day long strategic planning meeting for the Foundation I work with. Some fellow staff members are pissed off with some of the changes and they think the boss is sometimes a bully and should be told off.
I have worked in the same place for 14 years so I know everything here. When it came to choosing who will go bell the cat and tell the boss the truth, they chose me. I asked them why and they said I am the only one they know who can say the TRUTH without getting people red in the face (white people do that) or without banging tables. That is me.
My point is that different people have different ways of doing the same thing. Miguna has his style and for the most part it is great.
When Miguna retires from the PM's office may be after 2012 Kenyans will get to know what he has had to deal with. When they get to know that they will understand that there are many things that happened for the better of our country and for which without Miguna's uncompromising stance and take no prisoner mentality would never have happened.
Miguna is a living library of the evolving Kenyan political dynamics. I have no doubt given his love and ability for the written word, we will get to know a whole lot more about Miguna when the time comes.
adongo
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 21:24:17 GMT 3
PM Where do you get the idea that he did not graduate. One can fault Uhuru in other ways and there are myriad trajectories such an enterprise would take considering the ever piling evidentiary material that Uhuru's "passionate intensity" churns out in the face of an apparent Waterloo that is the ICC. One (and especially an adviser to the PM) need not fall captive to the contagion of flippant speech. Wit sarcasm and humor when well deployed, distinguishes itself from cheap market place exuberance. I merely asked a question Do you know what he graduated in? What did he study? I dont know. But I can tell you what degrees the Rt Hon Prime Minister has. I can tell you what degrees his wife Ida has. How can a mysterious fellow, of whom we dont even know who is wife is ( I dont ) of whom we dont know of his academic background, of whom we dont know how he got his vast land and wealth holdings (alinuna pesa ngapi?), how can this guy just be the front runner for P.O.R.K, just like that? BTW has jomo jnr ever published (hata kama ni by a ghost writter) any op-ed piece? What did he opine on? Just who is this guy jomo jnr? What do you know about him?
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Post by mzee on Mar 29, 2011 21:33:30 GMT 3
PM tell nalinali that Uhuru deserve all the condemnations coming his way. You can be tribalist but not to that extent. Im shocked that some dont even see his tribalism.
Its surprising that some think that going to a reputable school always means that one is smart. People such a UK needed not be smart to attend the named university. He was "fixed" there courtesy of his father. Thats the bottom line. He never passed his form four/six exams. We all know the reputable university George Bush Junior went? (Google that up). Is he smart? Go figure.
This useless fellow born with a silver spoon in mouth has never had any proper job in the whole of his life. He therefore cannot tell us that the country will not move forward without him. We will move forward and forget him as soon as the keys to his cell is thrown in the middle of lake victoria.
And yes, its all Raila fault.
Please give a big round of applause to Raila for making sure that these two are handed over to Ocampo. Another round for instructing them to murder people in Naivasha. Yet another one for tricking them into burning people in a Church. I cant thank Raila enough for making sure that these gang do not contest the next elections. Where would the country be without this man Raila.
Let the Ocampo six pay the crimes they committed.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 21:50:50 GMT 3
And yes, its all Raila fault. Please give a big round of applause to Raila for making sure that these two are handed over to Ocampo. Another round for instructing them to murder people in Naivasha. Yet another one for tricking them into burning people in a Church. I cant thank Raila enough for making sure that these gang do not contest the next elections. Where would the country be without this man Raila. Let the Ocampo six pay the crimes they committed. jomo jnr is one lucky son of a gun. He is a genetic accident that made him the scion of the first family. He kulaad maisha bora for a long time in relative anonymity. He should have just continued to do that. Lakini power got into his thick head when he heard whispers eti he is his fathers son! His problems started when kipkorios tried to impose him on us as his manchurian candidate. The first time he tried to get into the legico he was rejected overwhelmingly. The next time he tried it, he coupled that run with the Presidential run, he had to beg, cajole those voters, he sent in the biggest gun - his mama to talk on his behalf. He got into the legico but lost the run for P.O.R.K in a land slide. The third time he abandoned a constitutional office with no prior notice, no reason, other than to jump into the tribal wagon that is the PNU. Now this time he got burnt. He was part of the cabal that stole the vote Then he was part of the cabal that was responsible for fueling the PEV revenge and retribution acts. Now Ocampo has him in a vice grip, sqeezing his ninis, all for what? Is all this drama worth stealing the 2007 vote surely? As a rational human being I will say no. But these Panua folks arent rational. Greedy sons of guns they are. Now couple that with the virulent baseless psychopathic hatred they have for the Rt Hon Prime Minister, who is actually a legit contender for P.O.R.K, then you begin to understand the deep psychosis these guys have. They cant help themselves. They need to be roped in and caged for life. I just hope they go to the Hague and then actually get a hearing and then get some serious jail time. But knowing them, I can betcha they will circumvent the trial, one way of another. We shall be forced to deal with them.
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Post by mzee on Mar 29, 2011 22:13:46 GMT 3
PM, We are ready to meet these Ocampo thugs wherever and whenever. Yes, we already have them bagged, tagged and ready to be shipped to The Hague.
They killed Kenyans now they have to pay. The pothead butcher of Naivasha thinks that there will be mercy for him because he is a Kenyatta’s son. Ujinga mtupu, hata Taylor alikua raisi lakini yumo mle ndani kuzuizuini mpaka wa leo. Who knows Kenyatta at The Hague? Nobody.
Yes, this man is a good for nothing punk. He has even squandered opportunities that he was handed on a silver plate. He was leader of opposition but tribal politics made him the first person in the world to abdicate such post. He was leaving the post to support one of his own. Look where that led him. Then, he messed up KANU even though he got it without a fight. He destroyed its networks all over the country. All in the name of tribalism.
I have never seen a man of Uhuru age being so tribalistic. It’s amazing and mind boggling to watch those utube clips showing him uttering profanities at other tribes. O lord!!
As I have said before, Kibaki will abandon Uhuru without a word as soon as The Hague starts getting hot. As soon as the old man Muthaura starts spilling the beans, things are going to be messy. For in Hague there will be no tribe. Every man will fight to defend himself. Saying that I killed people because Raila called mass action will not do. Forget it.
I can’t understand why Uhuru is putting his mother through all this heartache at an old age. The woman might just get heart attack.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 29, 2011 22:35:50 GMT 3
Yes, this man is a good for nothing punk. He has even squandered opportunities that he was handed on a silver plate. He was leader of opposition but tribal politics made him the first person in the world to abdicate such post. He was leaving the post to support one of his own. Look where that led him. Then, he messed up KANU even though he got it without a fight. He destroyed its networks all over the country. All in the name of tribalism. I have never seen a man of Uhuru age being so tribalistic. It’s amazing and mind boggling to watch those utube clips showing him uttering profanities at other tribes. O lord!! As I have said before, Kibaki will abandon Uhuru without a word as soon as The Hague starts getting hot. As soon as the old man Muthaura starts spilling the beans, things are going to be messy. For in Hague there will be no tribe. Every man will fight to defend himself. Saying that I killed people because Raila called mass action will not do. Forget it. I can’t understand why Uhuru is putting his mother through all this heartache at an old age. The woman might just get heart attack. The metamorphosis that jomo jnr has undergone is amazing. Gone is the suave sheen. Gone is the urbane persona. Gone is the metropolitan outlook. I mean the guy was on the verge on being a bonafide metrosexual! He had clean cut suits, smiled a lot and spoke English with St marys accent. In its place what we now have is a very scary fellow. I fear the guy for real. This is a cornered rat who will do anything to save his hide. Considering that he has never been on that end of the law it must be a rude shock. He has absolutely NO CONTROL OVER THIS CHAPTER in his life. None!! I mean his father was like this bid, big, super-big nyapara, ordering around all and sundry, assassinating folks like TJM and JMK, detaining Jaramogi at will, calling whole tribes insects. His word was law and the law was his word. So thats jomo jnr world. But that world ceased to exist some time back. But now he is facing an implacable foe, who doesnt not flinch, does not sweat, does not bat an eyelid, has no worries about indicting this son of a gun. And the cornered rat responds by engaging in fear mongering, tribal rants, and hate speech against tribes. If you ask jomo jnr, what did the Rt Hon Prime Minister do to you to, to make you hate him so virulently? amula mbuzi yako? Did the Rt Hon Prime Minister refuse to launder from your ICC foibles when you paid homage to him in Karen following his head surgery? Carry your won damm cross jomo jnr. You are done. I wish Ngina would have told you to kulaa mali pole pole instead of engaging in politics.
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Post by abdulmote on Mar 29, 2011 23:33:49 GMT 3
"I had a few concerns about this. I like the bulk of the piece, but by nature I do not hammer people when they are down even when they are outright scumbags."
Adongo,
Thanks for that. I hear you.
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Post by mosop on Mar 29, 2011 23:47:49 GMT 3
Miguna has just confirmed to me that he is one stupid, ignorant and malicious fellow. Even if you hate Uhuru, you don't have to distort the facts just to prove your point. For all I know, Uhuru graduated from Amherst College, ranked consistently among the top 3 U.S. liberal arts colleges. He graduated with BA in political science and let no one try to discredit his achievements by saying that he got there because of his father. Uhuru attended Amherst in the 80s when his dad was dead and Moi was in power. So don't tell me that he got in there because of his father's influence.
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Post by mzee on Mar 29, 2011 23:49:47 GMT 3
PM, There is nothing worse than cornering a wild animal. It’s may just unleash its fangs. This is what has happened to the butcher of Naivasha.
The man has been cornered, outnumbered, outmaneuvered and outgunned. He has his fangs out and is ready to throw everything and anything including the kitchen sink at anybody who dares not praise him. Dunderhead MPs are following him around singing hosanna but knowing full well that time is nigh. They know that these are probably Uhurus very last days as a Kenyan politician. But they love his money and are going to get handouts mpaka dakika ya mwisho.
I can’t imagine this guy who is blinded with rage becoming Kenyans president.
Ati its RAOs fault because he called mass action. Mass action as we know is not illegal. But if it’s the call for mass action that finally brought Uhurus otherwise latent murderous character out in the open, then the mass action was a blessing in disguise. I can now without fear of contradiction say that Uhuru has always behind the murderous mungiki.
Time is nigh. Its katock, katick, katock, katick, kahague
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Post by kaburwo on Mar 30, 2011 0:09:28 GMT 3
This is the first, and probably the only, time I'm gonna respond to Miguna's essay. And I have this to say. It is one long piece of sh!t. Miguna insults those of us from the rift valley who are trying to de-toxify the politics of the ICC with some bloated hubris. If I were Raila, I'd fire Miguna tomorrow on live TV because what he achieves with this kind of verbiage is not a healing but a gritting and acerbic verbal retribution whose only result is a further gardening of positions. This kind of hubris does not help the PM, it confirms the claims of the kkk squad. Miguna better start shutting up. I'm thoroughly disappointed. You don't sing a dirge at an enemy's. What a shameful piece of writing. Was this published in any media outlet in Kenya?
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Post by mank on Mar 30, 2011 0:18:18 GMT 3
For someone like mank who has twice raised concerns about Miguna's pieces without as much as pointing out one specific issue of concern, it might be helpful to respond to the specific issues. I don't think trying to insult jukwaa as entity, something mank has done more than once without raising things that people can actually respond to is of any help. Nobody is imprisoned in jukwaa. .... adongo What do you mean by " without as much as pointing out one specific issue of concern"? Do you mean it is not enough that I pointed out the deceit in Miguna's writings? In my way of counting I pointed out more than one specific issues of concern. And I did not insult Jukwaa at all. I questioned the material your bring forth from Miguna, against the standard of Jukwaa.
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Post by mank on Mar 30, 2011 0:26:08 GMT 3
This is the first, and probably the only, time I'm gonna respond to Miguna's essay. And I have this to say. It is one long piece of sh!t. Miguna insults those of us from the rift valley who are trying to de-toxify the politics of the ICC with some bloated hubris. If I were Raila, I'd fire Miguna tomorrow on live TV because what he achieves with this kind of verbiage is not a healing but a gritting and acerbic verbal retribution whose only result is a further gardening of positions. This kind of hubris does not help the PM, it confirms the claims of the kkk squad. Miguna better start shutting up. I'm thoroughly disappointed. You don't sing a dirge at an enemy's. What a shameful piece of writing. Was this published in any media outlet in Kenya? I dedicate that to Adongo. I am not the only one saying the stuff you dislike me for. It is not about me ... it is about what you posted here man. Don't just bring here everything Miguna writes and expect everyone to stand in ovation.
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Post by johns on Mar 30, 2011 1:04:17 GMT 3
Miguna could have done better than that. It gives a feel of a cold uncaring person to the nightmares some people are currently going through. There is much i want to write about Uhuru and Ruto but common decency makes me not.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 30, 2011 2:02:51 GMT 3
Why are some folks here averse to some schadenfreude in so far as the ICC 6 is concerned?
Why the sudden crocodile tears commiserating with these murderous thugs? The day I see the rabid tribalist jomo jnr with his feral eyes bowing before the the 3 judge chamber that will be a joyous one indeed.
Lets shed tears for those who suffered under jomo snr, the families of kina TJM, JMK, CMG Kodhek, PGP, and yes even Jaramogi. Lets shed tears for the 1500 killed by these thugs during the PEV. Lets shed tears for their bereaved families. Lets shed tears for those displaced and cold and hungry.
But I will not shed a tear for the ICC 6.
So let me wallow in some shadenfreude for once.
Its also called - comeuppance!! - they deserve what is coming to them, in a bad way, - no pun intended
Yea I am reveling in it, with no darned apologies.
I always remind you guys about Karma, its a blank upity blank that will come to bite you in the a$$
These guys have been drunk on impunity - of the 100 proof variety, for so long, mpaka they believe the sh!t they tell the public during their many barazas - eti they are innocent!!
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 30, 2011 2:08:31 GMT 3
This is the first, and probably the only, time I'm gonna respond to Miguna's essay. And I have this to say. It is one long piece of sh!t. Miguna insults those of us from the rift valley who are trying to de-toxify the politics of the ICC with some bloated hubris. If I were Raila, I'd fire Miguna tomorrow on live TV because what he achieves with this kind of verbiage is not a healing but a gritting and acerbic verbal retribution whose only result is a further gardening of positions. This kind of hubris does not help the PM, it confirms the claims of the kkk squad. Miguna better start shutting up. I'm thoroughly disappointed. You don't sing a dirge at an enemy's. What a shameful piece of writing. Was this published in any media outlet in Kenya? I dedicate that to Adongo. I am not the only one saying the stuff you dislike me for. It is not about me ... it is about what you posted here man. Don't just bring here everything Miguna writes and expect everyone to stand in ovation. mank,It would be nice if you can speak for yourself. I have tremendous respect for people like kaburwo who speak for themselves and actually initiate a lot of very powerful and helpful posts in this site. I have never bothered much with hecklers as you know. So if you want to join that line, pick a number. Nobody asked you for a standing ovation and I am not sure many would have even noticed. I have already given my opinion on the miguna piece on this very thread, read it before you look for people on whose back you want to jump. I will give kaburwo the mature response he deserves because I really respect the work he does and I am fully behind him. In fact I will also privately communicate with him. In the meantime, if you have anything to say for yourself, I will listen to it. Thank you adongo
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