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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 2, 2011 13:45:19 GMT 3
www.nairobistar.com/national/national/19384-mps-plan-ocampo-six-homecomingEven before the Ocampo Six appear at the ICC, their supporters are already planning a massive homecoming party and rally for them. Close allies and supporters of Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto who will not be able to accompany them to the Hague have for the past week been meeting to plan the event. At least 20 MPs have received visas to travel to the Netherlands. Another 25 are expected to get them early next week to accompany Uhuru and Ruto who are due to make their initial appearances before the ICC Pre-Trial Chamber judges. Uhuru, Ruto, Tinderet MP Henry Kosgey, Head of Public Service Francis Muthaura, the Postmaster-General Hussein Ali and Kass FM journalist Joshua arap Sang will be appearing in court next week. Ruto, Kosgey and Sang will appear on Thursday while Uhuru, Muthaura and Ali will appear on Friday. Local government assistant minister Lewis Nguyai is the chairman of the organising committee as he will not be travelling to the Hague. He and other committee members have been mobilising support from their colleagues in Parliament and within the political, religious and business circles as they make arrangements for what some of the MPs have described as "a heroes' welcoming party like no other." The party-rally will be held on the day the six are expected back home. This is likely to be Sunday April 10 or Monday April 11. According to the tentative programme drawn up by the organising committee, at least one million Uhuru-Ruto supporters will be mobilised to receive the Ocampo Six on their arrival at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport and line the route from the airport to Uhuru Park. The organisers say they want the reception to rival that accorded Stanley Matiba in 1992 when he returned from the UK where he had been taken for treatment on his release from detention (on Saba Saba Day, 1990) for demanding a multiparty system of government. The organisers hope the Ocampo Six rally will be bigger than the reception accorded President Kibaki in the run-up to the 2002 when he returned home from the UK where he had gone for treatment following injuries suffered in a road accident at the Machakos turn-off. In both instances, hundreds of thousands of Kenyans thronged the airport and lined the route to receive the two men back home. The Ocampo Six rally organisers say they want to use the Matiba, Kibaki events as benchmarks of their celebrations. Yesterday Nguyai confirmed he had opted out of the Hague trip so that he could steer the homecoming planning committee. Other members of the committee — Nithi MP Kareke Mbiuki and his Limuru colleague Peter Mwathi — said they expect the attendance at the rally to break the record set when President Kibaki, still in a wheelchair, was sworn in as President at Uhuru Park.“I can assure you that we will bring a million people who will march from JKIA to Uhuru Park on that day,” Mwathi said. He said supporters of the Ocampo Six from all parts of the country will not be ferried to the JKIA or Uhuru Park but will voluntarily travel to the airport to receive the Ocampo Six before the rally.“The events of that day will change the political landscape of this country forever, you will see a people united in support of the six,” Mwathi added. On his part, Mbiuki was confident that the reception and subsequent rally will be attended by a crowd "equivalent to the promulgation ceremony ( August 27, 2010) of the new constitution crowd." Mbiuki said the rally will be symbolic as it will send a clear message of the political direction that the country will take in the next elections.“It will signify the grand march to State House by the Uhuru-Ruto team. That will be the message that will be made that day,” said Mbiuki, a close ally of the two. A senior PNU Cabinet minister, who sought anonymity this early in the planning stages, confirmed receiving an invitation to attend the two events.“They are yet to agree on the date but have been keeping us posted with every single step they have taken for the rally,” the minister said. Raila should be a worried man .
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Post by kamalet on Apr 2, 2011 13:53:14 GMT 3
This is utterly daft! If they want a party, then let it be onr after the case is thrown out by the court.
There is really nothing to celebrate next week!
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Post by makokha on Apr 2, 2011 14:56:53 GMT 3
Im still puzzled by the behaviour of the suspects. The way they are green in such grave matters leaves me totally amazed, but anyway, whoever is directing/advising them and the way I know Kenyans, everyone for himself but acha tukule as much muthendi as possible.
The struggle in Africa Continues
Ongalo Makokha
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Post by merlin on Apr 2, 2011 17:47:46 GMT 3
Glorious
Other than with the glorious homecoming of William Ruto, in November 2010 this time it probably is marred by the revelations during the hearing of the case which will be hot in the public domain via TV, Internet and the Local Press.
No bravery possible that you "set the record straight" if everyone has witnessed what has been said.
Bragging and intimidating the crowd cannot be done in the ICC court room. The sober summing up of what happened during PEV and which part is expected the responsibility of Uhuru and the other suspects will bring back the grave matter in perspective. Reality will take the place of the glorious mood of bravery.
Maybe shamefulness will align the road from JKIA to Uhuru park which would be a good start for reconciliation and forgivingness.
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Post by job on Apr 2, 2011 18:43:32 GMT 3
When will there be a homecoming for IDPs still stranded in camps?
Why not lead all the IDPs back to their destroyed homes and farms and talk genuine reconciliation now that they resolved the underlying "common" problem that caused the violence in the first place.
I didn't realize this was such a simple underlying problem to resolve. Just fight-off Raila off the national stage and kaboom, no more IDPs. Good for them. May we now see the homecoming of the IDPs.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 2, 2011 18:47:30 GMT 3
When will there be a homecoming for IDPs still stranded in camps? A good question for Orengo. I hope Phil is listening.
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Post by job on Apr 2, 2011 19:06:58 GMT 3
IDPs had HOMES prior to PEV. Homecoming means exactly that- coming to their homes. When and where's the homecoming? Haven't Ruto and Uhuru resolved the underlying problem (aka Raila) for the mass evictions of IDPs from their homes?
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 7, 2011 9:40:10 GMT 3
www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1140088/-/7qqw1b/-/index.htmlUhuru, Ruto thanksgiving rally set for SundayPublic Works assistant minister Mwangi Kiunjuri said a thanksgiving cum political rally for Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto will be held at Uhuru Park on Sunday April 6, 2011. FILE Public Works assistant minister Mwangi Kiunjuri said a thanksgiving cum political rally for Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto will be held at Uhuru Park on Sunday April 6, 2011. FILE By JOHN NGIRACHU Posted Wednesday, April 6 2011 at 17:40 A thanksgiving cum political rally for Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto, who are part of the Ocampo Six, is scheduled to be held at Uhuru Park on Sunday. MPs allied to the two, who are currently at the International Criminal Court at The Hague, said the rally will start from 11 a.m. “We are very clear that our rally and prayers will be held on the tenth,” said Public Works assistant minister Mwangi Kiunjuri, who has been very vocal in his support of the revived political alliance between Mr Ruto and Mr Kenyatta. “We have a prayer meeting and a political rally. Politicians don’t pray, ours is to do politics,” Dujis MP Adan Duale asserted. The team also showed journalists at the press conference at Parliament a letter from Nairobi Town Clerk Philip Kisia indicating they could use the park on Sunday. They had essentially called the press conference to confirm the official arrival date as well as clear the air on the availability of the park, which has been booked on Friday and Saturday by a non-governmental organisation. Those on the Ruto-Uhuru alliance who have been left behind are tasked with organising their reception as they head back to the country after their day at the ICC. “ICC is a political process. We’re here and we’ll face our enemies, whether in the US, Europe and Kenya, politically and legally,” said Mr Duale. Other MPs at the press conference were: Lewis Nguyai (Kikuyu, PNU), Dr Julius Kones (Konoin, ODM), Luka Kigen (Rongai, ODM), Zakayo Cheruiyot (Kuresoi, ODM) and Benjamin Langat (Ainamoi, ODM). Earlier, ODM rejected claims that the party had booked all public venues on the weekend and Monday to block rivals from holding rallies. "It has come to the attention of the Orange Democratic Movement-ODM that some people are going round claiming that the Party has booked off all the Public venues for the coming weekend through to Monday. "ODM is not in the business of blocking others from doing what they feel is democratic and in the interest of the Nation," said Ms Janet Onger'a, ODM's executive director. "ODM is a party that believes in Democracy and the Rule of Law has no intention whatsoever to undermine the very basics that it leadership has always fought for. "Those peddling such rumours are desperate and cheap propagandists who want to hype their so-called prayer meeting or whatever it is using the popularity our party has across the country. "ODM does not fear competition and therefore, we call on our competitors to carry on with their activities in peace and leave ODM out of their woes," she said
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Post by job on Apr 7, 2011 12:14:22 GMT 3
Good for them = a homecoming celebration is quite a welcome idea. Phew! After finally sorting out the ICC problem, homecoming for the suspects is quite in order, ama? Could they use the opportunity to discuss when IDPs start going back to their original homes now that elusive peace is here?
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Post by kaburwo on Apr 7, 2011 12:58:20 GMT 3
No more hate rallies, sorry
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Post by wuorkiir on Apr 7, 2011 13:08:36 GMT 3
Asanteni sani. Tume enda kule kule na tume rudi papa hapa. Kwa sasa nime maliza yale niliurusiwa kutenda, na kwa hivyo, Asanteni sana, na shetani achindwe!
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Post by kamalet on Apr 7, 2011 13:14:59 GMT 3
No more hate rallies, sorry One thing is for sure. Raila bashing rallies will not end and will perhaps intesify when these guys return.
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Post by einstein on Apr 7, 2011 13:19:03 GMT 3
Ocampo has already planned to gag them, more so Uhuru and Ruto. Poor boys. no more hate speeches at funnerals and prayer meetings. That homecoming rally on sundays is as dead as a dodo! No more noise-making all over the place. That is the beauty of ICC. The ICC house belongs to nobody's mother! www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000032740&cid=4&ttl=Uhuru arrives at The Hague, to meet tougher conditions from Ocampo
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Post by kamalet on Apr 7, 2011 13:23:15 GMT 3
Ocampo has already planned to gag them, more so Uhuru and Ruto. Poor boys. no more hate speeches at funnerals and prayer meetings. That homecoming rally on sundays is as dead as a dodo! No more noise-making all over the place. That is the beauty of ICC. The ICC house belongs to nobody's mother! www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000032740&cid=4&ttl=Uhuru arrives at The Hague, to meet tougher conditions from Ocampo ...that is what Ocampo wanted, but the ruling of the judges was a lot more clear and far from the desires of Ocampo.
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 7, 2011 16:31:12 GMT 3
Ocampo has already planned to gag them, more so Uhuru and Ruto. Poor boys. no more hate speeches at funnerals and prayer meetings. That homecoming rally on sundays is as dead as a dodo! No more noise-making all over the place. That is the beauty of ICC. The ICC house belongs to nobody's mother! www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000032740&cid=4&ttl=Uhuru arrives at The Hague, to meet tougher conditions from Ocampo ...that is what Ocampo wanted, but the ruling of the judges was a lot more clear and far from the desires of Ocampo. kamale,For whatever reason, Ocampo's so called new harsh conditions was only requested for the three amigos, Muthaura, Uhuru and Ali. Ocampo made no additional requests on the Ruto crew. So we will see what the court rules today. When we told you guys this thing is a marathon we meant it. They can plan a hundred homecomings and if the chaps are locked up only their grand kids will be there to plan any homecomings. Me and you may already be chilling on the other side of life by then. I don't know which side you are going but I pretty much know where I will be in that other world. My mom told me she prayed enough for both of us. That is why I don't worry too much with church. The old lady fixed that already. Hahahaha. Lucky me.
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Post by sang2000 on Apr 7, 2011 21:34:26 GMT 3
Did anyone say "homecoming party"? Could someone send this to the organizers please: "It came to the knowledge of the Chamber by way of following some articles in the Kenyan newspapers that there are some movements towards retriggering the violence in the country by way of using some dangerous speeches. I would like to remind the suspects - and I'm not referring to anyone in particular but this is a general point to be made to all the suspects - that such type of action could be perceived as a sort of inducement which may constitute the breach of one of the conditions set out in the summonses to appear, namely, to continue committing crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court. Accordingly, this might prompt the Chamber to replace the summonses to appear with warrants of arrest (…). - ICC Presiding Judge Ekaterina Trendafilova www.icc-cpi.int/NR/exeres/F5ADDE2B-A126-4A58-AA76-BC3F9F42A897.htm
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 7, 2011 22:32:13 GMT 3
I would welcome their 'homecoming' party with open arms. It greatly enhances the chances of the summonses being escalated to arrest warrants.
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Post by bob on Apr 7, 2011 22:41:04 GMT 3
It came to the knowledge of the Chamber by way of following some articles in the Kenyan newspapers that there are some movements towards retriggering the violence in the country by way of using some dangerous speeches.-----AND THE STORY WILL BE HUYU MTU RAILA AMELIPA MAGAZETTI KUANDIKA POROJO MPAKA ICC WAMESOMA!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by savekenya011 on Apr 7, 2011 22:48:17 GMT 3
It came to the knowledge of the Chamber by way of following some articles in the Kenyan newspapers that there are some movements towards retriggering the violence in the country by way of using some dangerous speeches.-----AND THE STORY WILL BE HUYU MTU RAILA AMELIPA MAGAZETTI KUANDIKA POROJO MPAKA ICC WAMESOMA!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha!!!!! Hii ni kali jo!
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 7, 2011 22:48:29 GMT 3
Did anyone say "homecoming party"? Could someone send this to the organizers please: "It came to the knowledge of the Chamber by way of following some articles in the Kenyan newspapers that there are some movements towards retriggering the violence in the country by way of using some dangerous speeches. I would like to remind the suspects - and I'm not referring to anyone in particular but this is a general point to be made to all the suspects - that such type of action could be perceived as a sort of inducement which may constitute the breach of one of the conditions set out in the summonses to appear, namely, to continue committing crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court. Accordingly, this might prompt the Chamber to replace the summonses to appear with warrants of arrest (…). - ICC Presiding Judge Ekaterina Trendafilova www.icc-cpi.int/NR/exeres/F5ADDE2B-A126-4A58-AA76-BC3F9F42A897.htmFor a court of ICC stature and standing to turn to newspapers as a basis upon which a decision is made is quite sad and pathetic to say the least. Even our own 'wazee wa kaya' do not go that low.
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Post by bob on Apr 7, 2011 23:03:38 GMT 3
Na wewe boss mwalimumkuu kwani ,where do you expect the ICC to gather their info from,attend the rallies? Wacha mchezo bwana. Hata ukiwa wapi ICT iko duniani & you can as well research on anything,na ukitaka hata goggle earth kama unataka kuona ulimwengu.
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Post by boyengo on Apr 7, 2011 23:06:00 GMT 3
For a court of ICC stature and standing to turn to newspapers as a basis upon which a decision is made is quite sad and pathetic to say the least. Even our own 'wazee wa kaya' do not go that low.
Mwalimkuu, Dont you think its also a coded message to the media houses in kenya who keep on misrepresenting facts spewing from the suspects mouth day in day out.Remeber Rwanda,both print n electronic media were used to fuel the animosity.How iwished also she could also include the suspects lieutenants who are the worst war-mongers!!
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Post by adongo23456 on Apr 7, 2011 23:14:17 GMT 3
Na wewe boss mwalimumkuu kwani ,where do you expect the ICC to gather their info from,attend the rallies? Wacha mchezo bwana. Hata ukiwa wapi ICT iko duniani & you can as well research on anything,na ukitaka hata goggle earth kama unataka kuona ulimwengu. hehehehehe It is like you kill someone and make a video of the killing and take the video to the judge and then turn around and tell the judge they cannot base their judgment on the video which clearly shows you killing a person. Talk about convoluted reasoning. These guys have been running around like mad men inciting violence, issuing threats, trashing the ICC as a phony political group being used by their political rivals and making all manner of stupid statements. The mwalimumkuus were busy jumping with excitement and now they are surprised the ICC is telling them any more of that foolishness and your ass is in jail. They got their long rope and wrapped it handsomely around their necks, what are the judges to do. Any more upuzi and someone will pull that rope.
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Post by tnk on Apr 7, 2011 23:33:03 GMT 3
Did anyone say "homecoming party"? Could someone send this to the organizers please: "It came to the knowledge of the Chamber by way of following some articles in the Kenyan newspapers that there are some movements towards retriggering the violence in the country by way of using some dangerous speeches. I would like to remind the suspects - and I'm not referring to anyone in particular but this is a general point to be made to all the suspects - that such type of action could be perceived as a sort of inducement which may constitute the breach of one of the conditions set out in the summonses to appear, namely, to continue committing crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court. Accordingly, this might prompt the Chamber to replace the summonses to appear with warrants of arrest (…). - ICC Presiding Judge Ekaterina Trendafilova www.icc-cpi.int/NR/exeres/F5ADDE2B-A126-4A58-AA76-BC3F9F42A897.htmFor a court of ICC stature and standing to turn to newspapers as a basis upon which a decision is made is quite sad and pathetic to say the least. Even our own 'wazee wa kaya' do not go that low. mwalimumkuu you have made a point of trashing the ICC kindly point us or me to a process more fair, more professional than the ICC either in Kenya or elsewhere
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Post by gachquota on Apr 8, 2011 0:06:57 GMT 3
hahaha..........
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