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Post by destiny on Apr 5, 2011 13:46:06 GMT 3
They will fly out with boos from most Kenyans ringing in their ears!Poll: 61pc of Kenyans prefer ICC trialsA majority of Kenyans want the Ocampo Six to stand trial at the International Criminal Court, a new opinion poll shows. Of those polled, 61 percent said they prefer the suspected masterminds of Kenya's post election violence to answer charges at The Hague-based court, the survey by research firm Synovate and released Tuesday showed. This represents a marginal one percent increase from a December 2010 poll where 60pc backed the ICC process. Conversely, 24pc of the respondents said they favoured local trials through a Special Tribunal to try the suspects of the chaos that left 1,133 people dead and a further 650,000 people uprooted from their homes. The poll also revealed a strong preference among Kenyans for justice as only three percent want amnesty granted to the suspects. In the December poll, 14pc were in favour of forgiveness. According to the survey, Kenyans were also highly aware of the Ocampo Six at 79pc. Of the six, Eldoret North MP William Ruto (91pc) was the most recognised, while radio presenter Joshua Arap Sang (60pc) was least known. The other suspects include: Finance minister Uhuru Kenyatta, head of civil service Francis Muthaura, Postmaster General Hussein Ali and Tinderet MP Henry Kosgey. The release of the poll coincided with the day some of the Ocampo Six fly to The Hague to honour summonses issued by the Pre-Trial Chamber. Mr Ruto, Mr Kosgey and Mr Sang will make their initial appearance at The Hague at 9:30 am (11.30 am Kenyan time) on Thursday. Mr Kenyatta, Mr Muthaura and former police chief Ali are scheduled to appear at 2:30 pm (4.30pm) on Friday. Charges against the six include murder, deportation, rape, inhumane acts, persecution and other acts of torture. A further 54pc said they want those holding public office among the suspects- Mr Kenyatta, Mr Muthaura and Major General Ali- to resign from their positions of influence. On Monday, last prayers were held for some of the suspects at Gatundu Stadium in Mr Kenyatta’s backyard. During the prayers, former First Lady Mama Ngina Kenyatta said justice will prevail and the innocence of the Ocampo Six will be vindicated. “Uhuru, Ruto, Muthaura and the rest will go and come back because God sees and knows all and will render justice,” she told the crowd. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1139102/-/7qbmkq/-/index.html
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Post by destiny on Apr 5, 2011 13:58:59 GMT 3
"A further 54pc said they want those holding public office among the suspects- Mr Kenyatta, Mr Muthaura and Major General Ali- to resign from their positions of influence."
When will Kibaki ever sit down and listen to the hard working people of this nation as they plead with him on various issues affecting their lives? It doesn't matter whether it's this Hague issue, corruption, drugs, impunity, tribalism and corruption. The president dithers and slithers without taking any action, hoping the gullible masses will quickly forget. No we won't forget sir! We shall keep harping on till it sinks in that head! I bet the only reason he has not asked them to shove off is simply to show us who is boss. It's this arrogance that will eventually hang this highly insensitive and aloof president. It's also this type of arrogance that will eventually make sure the Ocampo six rot in jail for so many years since they pretend they know best by whipping up tribal animosity before leaving. Goodbye and good riddance at least for those few days! As far as this opinion poll is concerned, it looks like the voices of the dead are actually speaking through the living- and rightly so!
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 14:01:35 GMT 3
Another wrong portrayal by the media/pollsters and pundits of the actual happenings and wishes on ground .
This is what uhuru had to say about this wrong potrayal
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Post by kamalet on Apr 5, 2011 14:03:17 GMT 3
that is quite a fall from the earlier figure of 80%
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Post by destiny on Apr 5, 2011 14:08:38 GMT 3
This represents a marginal one percent increase from a December 2010 poll where 60pc backed the ICC process.
Despite the highly tribal charged "peace" rallies and millions wasted to hire goons like Kutuny, Sonko and Kiunjuri, there was actually a 1% increase from 60% to 61%. Talk about wasting money and energy, what a cropper!
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 14:59:29 GMT 3
Submitted by sparks_11_99
Posted April 05, 2011 01:11 PM
Which kenyans ? I never took part in that poll i don't know anyone who did.I and everyone i know are for kenyan problems,kenyan responsibility and thats why our fathers fought for independence.
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Submitted by johndirish
Posted April 05, 2011 12:48 PM
waititu,how much do you spend when doing the sampling?and what other business is done by synovate beside that?just curiuos
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Submitted by felabhi
Posted April 05, 2011 12:33 PM
George Waititu, where / who / how do you contact your polls? why cant you request votes to all kenyans instead of doing things behind kenyan knowledge. upuzi mtupu.
Submitted by perepepe
Posted April 05, 2011 12:30 PM
Synovate is fast losing credibility with its bias in 2007 being revealed by Wikileaks. We take your opinion polls with much salt since this revelation. Infact Synovate through its former name Steadman may be culpable of causing PEV having given a presidential aspirant 10 points ahead of nearest rival only to be pulled aside by Americans and shown a poll that put two front runners one to two points apart. Waititu, release your opinion polls to the birds.
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Submitted by mureraikihia
Posted April 05, 2011 12:15 PM
Several questions always follow the release of opinion polls by Synovate. The remain as follows: 1. The timing of the release of opinion polls - Always coincides with a period within which a particular politician is politically cornered. 2. Who pays or sponsors the polls? 3. The methodology used in sampling. According to Wikileaks Synovate has admitted different methods of sampling will give different results. Synovate, stop preying on Kenya's mass ignorance. We can smell a rat even though unable to articulate and prove our suspicion.
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Submitted by Pamzy
Posted April 05, 2011 12:09 PM
I would really like to be interviewed for one of these so-called polls one of these days. Who do they interview, where and when?
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Submitted by Munjeri
Posted April 05, 2011 12:08 PM
Synovate, we are as gullible!the same way you inflated RAO's popularity,the same you are inflating the Hague a gender he is pursuing. Who funds you by the way. why dont they fund eg unemployment/hunger reduction surveys and strategies
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 5, 2011 16:46:32 GMT 3
Submitted by little1920
Posted April 05, 2011 04:37 PM
LOL. These numbers are cooked. Where are the presidnetial Polls lately? Is it because Raila is at an all time low and no one would buy him leading at 46% is that why there are no Polls... when will Kenyans see the light that these Polls are biased.
Submitted by billmzalendo
Posted April 05, 2011 04:33 PM
I am yet to see a Poll that goes against Raila's wishes... just saying. My gut feel is that these Numbers are cooked, when I do the "regional" math, the numbers on this poll just dont add up unless they are just sampling Nairobi residents or working for RAO.
Submitted by sistermpole
Posted April 05, 2011 04:23 PM
If Kenya wants to thrive in peace, Kenyans must reject the 'poll syndrome' in view of it's damaging aftermath. The 2007 elections and PEV should remind us how polls build a candidate on sea sand and made people believe there was just that one option. We must avoid the same mistake and deny polls CSOs licence to operate 1 year before elections.
Submitted by Tabuga
Posted April 05, 2011 03:50 PM
Cooked figures by synovate! A referendum is the best way to know without a shadow of doubt!
Submitted by taifa_001
Posted April 05, 2011 03:49 PM
Mabibi na mabwana..mimi sina mengi ya kusema..but to a politician (especially those reportedly whose new job description is escorting) these figures are as clear as mud!
Submitted by liberty911
Posted April 05, 2011 03:40 PM
i dont trust Synovate when do they do there survey.i have never heard anybody,who has been surveyed by them .are they cooking figures or what.
Submitted by 2001nisha
Posted April 05, 2011 03:18 PM
i wish they conduct a survey at Central Province and Rift valley. I will like to know the outcome.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 5, 2011 17:15:16 GMT 3
that is quite a fall from the earlier figure of 80% Oh yeah Kamale, when I saw those figures, I laughed myself silly. I was like, where do these people live? Maybe in Toronto, because here at the foot of the famous Nandi Hills where I recide and the other places I have visited, the language is totally different, the feeling is very opposite from the NGO mindset. And another thing to remember is that this poll was taken more than two weeks ago before the very successful rallies we've witnessed so far. I am sure this thing stands at somewhere around 33% for; which is the true reflection of ODM's support countrywide. |
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 5, 2011 17:21:57 GMT 3
Discrediting polls won't help the Ocampo 6! Kenyans don't need to be polled most Kenyans except for a few who have been bought or threatened by the anointed one UHURU KENYATTA and RUTO are 100% for the Hague process.. just like Kenyans voted in for the New Constitution Kenyans had spoken.. no more impunity and those that committed heinous crimes must face the Hague.. " DON'T BE VAGUE GO TO HAGUE"
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Post by mangai on Apr 5, 2011 17:24:13 GMT 3
that is quite a fall from the earlier figure of 80% Oh yeah Kamale, when I saw those figures, I laughed myself silly. I was like, where do these people live? Maybe in Toronto, because here at the foot of the famous Nandi Hills where I recide and the other places I have visited, the language is totally different, the feeling is very opposite from the NGO mindset. And another thing to remember is that this poll was taken more than two weeks ago before the very successful rallies we've witnessed so far. I am sure this thing stands at somewhere around 33% for; which is the true reflection of ODM's support countrywide. From Nandi Hills, the figures could be 5% in support of the Hague. However, the ICC issue is a national one hence the national poll. It is not only ODM supporters who are for the Hague but even PNU ones. The genuine PEV victims (a number of whom are PNU supporters) are crying out somewhere for justice. |
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Post by politicalmaniac on Apr 5, 2011 20:43:05 GMT 3
Where is the poll commissioned by the lords of impunity the Panua folks, that counters this one ?.
They have billions that they stole and could commission a fake poll too!!
Why havent they done it? kie kie kie ;D ;D
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 5, 2011 22:13:55 GMT 3
Intellectual dishonesty doesn't help a bit. The 85% in favour poll was conducted by Infotrak Harris. The Synovate poll, as was indicated in the article, showed 60% in favour.
As for Nowayhaha, I see you went through great lengths to copy+paste the comments that suit your preconceived notions. Why don't you do us a favour and copy+paste all the comments....
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Post by politicalmaniac on Apr 5, 2011 22:38:44 GMT 3
Intellectual dishonesty doesn't help a bit. The 85% in favour poll was conducted by Infotrak Harris. The Synovate poll, as was indicated in the article, showed 60% in favour.
As for Nowayhaha, I see you went through great lengths to copy+paste the comments that suit your preconceived notions. Why don't you do us a favour and copy+paste all the comments.... You asked a question for which you provided the answer! Intellectual dissonance is rife withing the ranks of the Panua folks, they are not reality based. Even when the UNSC has said NO to deferral and kina jomo jnr and ruto are on the plane to the wa nina of all courts in the Hague, they still maintain deferral is on. The Panua folks live and in operate in a different orbit, in the gutter, where lies, disinformation and propaganda are the corner stones of their lives. Again, Why cant they commission a poll? The Obama haters, the GOP, have Rasmussen Poll, which they use to manipulate the news cycle to talk to their base, - but most of the time its an outlier, kie kie kie ;D ;D |
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Post by shifta on Apr 6, 2011 6:32:50 GMT 3
I guess when you do no like the numbers you shoot the pollsters...If there were countering poll numbers they would have been released sooner than you can sasy " local tribunal". It seems the rallies have succeded beyond their wildest imagination in cementing Kenyans' stand on the ICC: waende!!
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Post by destiny on Apr 6, 2011 11:08:52 GMT 3
Just which opinion poll is this Kamalet is referring to that 80 p.c of Kenyans had previously backed The Hague option? I don't seem to recall that opinion poll at all and I've googled without any success. Kindly remind me.
Thanks.
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Post by kamalet on Apr 6, 2011 11:20:31 GMT 3
Just which opinion poll is this Kamalet is referring to that 80 p.c of Kenyans had previously backed The Hague option? I don't seem to recall that opinion poll at all and I've googled without any success. Kindly remind me. Thanks. ....do not let it give you a sleepless night! It does not really matter if you ask me what the polls say. They would never influence guilt or otherwise. As someone keeps saying ...tuko mbele tayari! |
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