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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 7, 2011 14:04:39 GMT 3
www.ocamposix.com/ Fellow Kenyans, Today marks the beginning of the journey of unearthing the Truth. We kindly appeal to our Friends and the whole Nation at Large to remain united and pray for our beloved Nation. As to our friends and supporters, we say this you, “May God always be with you and bless you in all your endavours. Please remain calm because sooner than later, the Truth shall surely set us FREE”. May God bless you all. May God bless Kenya. Ocamposix.com is a website developed and managed by Friends of Kenya both locally and internationally. Our mission is to unearth the hidden truth about the Post Election Violence (PEV) in Kenya following the disputed presidential elections for we strongly believe that only the truth shall set us free. Most of us having been in Kenya during the violence, had the privilege to witness first hand the events as they unfolded during the Kenya Post Election Violence of 2007. We truly and seriously sympathise with the plight of the Kenya Internally Displaced Persons (IDP’s) and we shall do everything possible to make sure they are resettled and shall forever enjoy peace and tranquility in their neighbourhoods. We believe that every Kenyan adult regardless of his age, race, sex or social standing has the right to buy property and settle in any corner of our beloved motherland. We strongly believe that most of what has been reported and given as evidence is one sided and given with ulterior motives. We, the Friends of Kenya, therefore decided to give our side of the story as we know it. We challenge anybody, regardless of his or her social standing, with any information and evidence to the contrary to produce it to us or make it publicly like we have done our evidence and we shall be glad and humbled to correct any errors that may be found in our submissions. Being civilized citizens, we strongly condemn the masterminds and the foot soldiers of the post election violence in Kenya. But in the same vein, we uphold the rule of law that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that justice must be served equally to both the accused and the victims. We therefore publicly state that no one should be condemned unheard and that the busy bodies running around trying to condemn or deny justice to any group should be condemned with the strongest words possible. We, the friends of Kenya, being part of the global community and law abiding citizens admired the spirit of the ICC court during its formation. But we are greatly perturbed by its metamorphosis into a monster whose main objective is to concentrate on petty crimes/offences in Africa instead of focusing its energy in dealing with serious and despicable crimes and atrocities committed by the west against innocent poor defenseless citizens of the world e.g. in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Palestine e.t.c. Is it not a mockery of justice and of our intellect that some of the big mouths agitating for the trial of the Kenya’s post election violence suspects at the Hague are themselves (their countries) not signatories to the ICC Rome Convention? Their lies may sprint and spread faster, but the truth shall run the marathon, go far and win. We appeal to Kenyans and our fellow global citizens particularly our dear brothers and sisters in Africa to be forever vigilant against the sinister motives and the double speak of the the West. We have been there once (colonization)….we cannot afford to make another mistake. As our national anthem says, may God bless our nation, may justice be our shield and defender and may we forever live in unity, peace and liberty and plenty be found within our borders. Amen!
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 7, 2011 14:15:29 GMT 3
Astroturfing at its best. The administrators of the page are busy deleting comments that are perceived to be anti Ocampo 6 to give a perception that people are against the ICC process....
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Post by kamalet on Apr 7, 2011 14:38:37 GMT 3
Astroturfing at its best. The administrators of the page are busy deleting comments that are perceived to be anti Ocampo 6 to give a perception that people are against the ICC process.... Discretion? How about those anti-the six doing a similar site? |
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Post by savekenya011 on Apr 7, 2011 15:38:29 GMT 3
Sinister indeed!
They all can rot somewhere where they ought.
God bless Kenya, God bless Kenyans, God bless the true spirit of patriotism, love and unity of kenya. GOD RESTORE KENYA.
May all these six politisicians/"leaders" (and all others who may be) get all that they deserve and which is surely coming their way!
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 8, 2011 14:29:13 GMT 3
www.ocamposix.com/frequently-asked-questions-f-a-qs-on-kenyas-post-election-violence-2007/Following the Kenya’s Post Election Violence of 2007 after the disputed general elections, there are many questions that remain unanswered. Below are some of the hottest questions which many Kenyans and the world in general are still grappling with. We hope that in due course, we shall be able to find the answers to these questions and we shall share them here together with the relevant/accompanying evidence. Do you think the ICC prosecutions will give Kenyans justice and help to cool the high political temperatures? * Don't Know 63 5% of all votes * No 777 62% of all votes * Yes 414 33% of all votes Total Votes: 1254 Started: March 28, 2011 Do you think the ICC prosecutor, Moreno Ocampo did his own independent investigations or relied on KHRC and other NGO's to gather his evidence? * Relied on KHRC & Other NGO's 856 69% of all votes * Did his own investigations 343 28% of all votes * Don't Know 35 3% of all votes Total Votes: 1234 Started: March 28, 2011 Do you think the Ocampo Six ICC prosecutions at the Hague are a threat to National Security and Regional Peace and Stability? * Yes 763 63% of all votes * No 419 35% of all votes * Don't Know 29 2% of all votes Total Votes: 1211 Started: March 28, 2011 Do you think the Kenya Government was justified calling for the deferral of the Kenya's post election violence cases at the Hague? * Yes 729 63% of all votes * No 406 35% of all votes * Don't Know 25 2% of all votes Total Votes: 1160 Started: March 28, 2011 Should the African Union (AU) member states pull out of the ICC Rome Convention? * Yes 736 62% of all votes * No 425 36% of all votes * Don't Know 26 2% of all votes Total Votes: 1187 Started: March 28, 2011 Do you support Justice Kaul Hans explanation on why the Ocampo Six should be prosecuted in Kenya? * Yes 753 64% of all votes * No 388 33% of all votes * Don't Know 31 3% of all votes Total Votes: 1172 Started: March 28, 2011 Do you think ODM is justified in sacrificing its own members to the ICC (Hague) process? * Yes 359 31% of all votes * No 778 66% of all votes * Don't Know 38 3% of all votes Total Votes: 1175 Started: April 1, 2011 Which community was most affected by the Post Election Violence in Kenya following the disputed presidential elections of 2007? * Mijikenda 46 4% of all votes * Kalenjin 210 18% of all votes * Kikuyu 848 73% of all votes * Luo 51 4% of all votes Total Votes: 1155 Started: April 1, 2011 Who was the first Kenyan National leader to go public and plead with youths to remain calm and give peace and dialogue a chance when the violence broke out? * Kalonzo Musyoka 57 5% of all votes * Martha Karua 28 2% of all votes * Raila Odinga 317 26% of all votes * Uhuru Kenyatta 731 61% of all votes * Don't Know 64 5% of all votes Total Votes: 1197 Started: April 1, 2011 Who called for mass action and coined the slogan 'No Raila, No Peace' following Kenya's disputed 2007 presidential elections? * James Orengo 243 21% of all votes * Anyang Nyong 781 67% of all votes * William Ruto 79 7% of all votes * Uhuru Kenyatta 14 1% of all votes * Don't Know 55 5% of all votes Total Votes: 1172 Started: April 1, 2011 Who among the following presidential contenders lost 2007 general elections and declared that he/she will not accept the results nor seek the courts legal redress and instead called for mass action? * Pius Muiru 11 1% of all votes * Uhuru Kenyatta 23 2% of all votes * Charity Ngilu 3 0% of all votes * Kalonzo Musyoka 44 4% of all votes * Raila Odinga 1059 93% of all votes Total Votes: 1140 Started: April 1, 2011 Who among the following politicians/institutions has helped the IDP's most? * Raila Odinga 47 4% of all votes * William Ruto 22 2% of all votes * Uhuru Kenyatta 492 43% of all votes * Ministry of Special Programs 591 51% of all votes * Police Department 5 0% of all votes Total Votes: 1157 Started: April 1, 2011
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Post by nowayhaha on Apr 8, 2011 14:41:13 GMT 3
Sinister indeed! They all can rot somewhere where they ought. God bless Kenya, God bless Kenyans, God bless the true spirit of patriotism, love and unity of kenya. GOD RESTORE KENYA. May all these six politisicians/"leaders" (and all others who may be) get all that they deserve and which is surely coming their way! Astroturfing at its best. The administrators of the page are busy deleting comments that are perceived to be anti Ocampo 6 to give a perception that people are against the ICC process.... First and foremost, to all our fans and supporters in our cause, we are truly thankful. Since this website has elicited enough talk, both positive and negative, kindly allow us to make some clarifications regarding some of the unanswered questions or accusations we have encountered so far. About us: There are a lot of questions about who we are, and who is funding us. We clarify here, for interest of peace, justice and accountability that we are not funded by anyone and neither do we have any political affiliation with anyone, be it an individual politician or a political party. We are the Friends of Kenya, as we have consistently said, hellbent on unearthing the truth regarding the trials of the Ocampo Six suspects. We truly want justice to all the IDP’s & we look forward to them being settled forever. But in the same vein, we cannot stand, as dignified citizens and friends of Kenya and watch some people vilify and condemn innocent people unheard. May justice be done, through informed debate and credible evidence, not through shouting, pointing fingers and manipulation of facts. (Watch out for the evidence we shall be releasing soon). You can read more about us and what we believe in below. www.ocamposix.com/about-usUsage of our Website and Making Comments: We have received enough comments that we are deleting or refusing to accept some comments. We confirm the accusations to the affirmative. The comments we have rejected are outrightly abusive and devoid of a decent language. As civilised citizens, we CANNOT and WE SHALL NOT publicize such comments. And for this, we truly have no apology about it. We accept divergent opinions but MUST be addressed and communicated in a decent manner. A good case in point is the two letters – One addressed to the PM and another divergent one. If you must comment or disagree, please do so but maintain decorum and decency in your comments. Disclaimer: Since this website will be publishing divergent opinions, we wish to clarify that not everything represents our official stand or position. The information/articles will be meant to engage in decent intellectual debate in helping to unearth the truth about the matter in question. Thank you in advance for your co-operation. |
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Post by commes on Apr 8, 2011 14:58:03 GMT 3
Jana, me kina Sang, Ruto and Kosgey were late kenyan style at the Judges chamber by 3 minutes.
The lady Judge gave us a musomo and said that she will not tolerate lateness in her Court.
I am already sitted. Waiting for Kina Uhuru, Muthaura and Ali.
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Post by savekenya011 on Apr 8, 2011 15:00:30 GMT 3
Sinister indeed! They all can rot somewhere where they ought. God bless Kenya, God bless Kenyans, God bless the true spirit of patriotism, love and unity of kenya. GOD RESTORE KENYA. May all these six politisicians/"leaders" (and all others who may be) get all that they deserve and which is surely coming their way! Astroturfing at its best. The administrators of the page are busy deleting comments that are perceived to be anti Ocampo 6 to give a perception that people are against the ICC process.... First and foremost, to all our fans and supporters in our cause, we are truly thankful. Since this website has elicited enough talk, both positive and negative, kindly allow us to make some clarifications regarding some of the unanswered questions or accusations we have encountered so far. About us: There are a lot of questions about who we are, and who is funding us. We clarify here, for interest of peace, justice and accountability that we are not funded by anyone and neither do we have any political affiliation with anyone, be it an individual politician or a political party. We are the Friends of Kenya, as we have consistently said, hellbent on unearthing the truth regarding the trials of the Ocampo Six suspects. We truly want justice to all the IDP’s & we look forward to them being settled forever. But in the same vein, we cannot stand, as dignified citizens and friends of Kenya and watch some people vilify and condemn innocent people unheard. May justice be done, through informed debate and credible evidence, not through shouting, pointing fingers and manipulation of facts. (Watch out for the evidence we shall be releasing soon). You can read more about us and what we believe in below. www.ocamposix.com/about-usUsage of our Website and Making Comments: We have received enough comments that we are deleting or refusing to accept some comments. We confirm the accusations to the affirmative. The comments we have rejected are outrightly abusive and devoid of a decent language. As civilised citizens, we CANNOT and WE SHALL NOT publicize such comments. And for this, we truly have no apology about it. We accept divergent opinions but MUST be addressed and communicated in a decent manner. A good case in point is the two letters – One addressed to the PM and another divergent one. If you must comment or disagree, please do so but maintain decorum and decency in your comments. Disclaimer: Since this website will be publishing divergent opinions, we wish to clarify that not everything represents our official stand or position. The information/articles will be meant to engage in decent intellectual debate in helping to unearth the truth about the matter in question. Thank you in advance for your co-operation. @noway(lol, ur handle tickles me-but I digress) I agree with you, In natural justice indeed all are innocent until proven guilty. In the principle of truth, accountability and GENUINE concern, just as in "reputable" scholarly work/academia/research etc, it is imperative to know one's references. In this case, you (or the person who begun this thread) say "...we are the friends of kenya...) Within the thread, a lot more is said like(i paraphrase) "...we want true justice and accountability...". My question is : "Who exactly are "we"? Who are these "friends of kenya". My argument is, if indeed hese are true friends of kenya and who have the interest of kenya and kenyans at heart; who have nothing to hide; who are uncowed by the truth and are unbiased based on political and or ethnic affiliation, then honestly; we should know them by their names!Maybe even by pictures of them! I mean look at the petitions collected the world over, people give their identity! Look at any website/web blog of repute, their owners/administrators give thier identity! Whether these identities are corporate in nature (say maybe a huma rights organization, a self help organization, a religious organization, you name it!), or whether they are individual in nature. Heck, our very own Jukwa we know who the administrator(s) is! So, kindly, before you try to insult our intelligence eti sijui this www.ocamposix.com/about-us is about truth and justice; I PRAY DO TELL; Who on earth are you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who on earth are these "we"? For all we(i) know, this could be a site run by the O6' PA's or even by O6 themselves! In which case they wouldnt be impartial and honest o the truth as it is delivered by the poeple who matter-KENYANS-or would they? If anything, mmeshasema kwamba hampokei na hamtapokea maoni ambayo haya amabatani na yale ambayo mnayasimamia; in other words anything negative bout the O6. So who are you guys?Nyinyi ni kina nani! Muache kudanganya watu hapa ati you stand for justice, truth and for kenya!NKKTSSSTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 8, 2011 16:12:48 GMT 3
Well, it depends on how one views the site. I personally am enjoying it for its entertainment value. The thing that cracked me up most was their polling questions e.g.
Who among the following politicians/institutions has helped the IDP's most?
* Raila Odinga
47 4% of all votes
* William Ruto
22 2% of all votes
* Uhuru Kenyatta
492 43% of all votes
* Ministry of Special Programs
591 51% of all votes
* Police Department
5 0% of all votes
Total Votes: 1157 Started: April 1, 2011
Only confirms to me that stupidity has no limits.......
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 8, 2011 18:02:30 GMT 3
I am usually curious to find out who is behind blogs, websites and discussion forums. Here at Jukwaa for instance, we are completely TRANSPARENT about who are the "principals" behind Jukwaa- Onyango Oloo, Adongo Ogony, Kathure Kebaara and our socialist leaning Kenyan comrades offline and online.Despite the ideological leanings of its founders, Jukwaa itself is an OPEN forum that accommodates a spectrum of opinions ranging from the extreme left to the rabid far right with most of our posters being middle of the road liberal democrats. Now when you ask the same question of www.ocamposix.com, what answers do you come up with? Well, I will reserve my own comment for now and share findings from others. Peruse the following links: nationalpolitico.blogspot.com/2011/04/ocamposixcom-out-to-derail-justice.htmlkenya.rcbowen.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10839&start=0I just wanted to state the following:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Dear Agents Provocateurs Infiltrating Jukwaa:As the administrator of this site I am quite conscious and aware that many people have been rushing to join Jukwaa of late. While the majority are genuine well-meaning people who express a diversity of views, there are a handful who think they are too clever by half and do not imagine that we can see through their obvious but ultimately DOOMED efforts to take over, disrupt and undermine Jukwaa as a progressive forum for all Kenyans. We saw the same attempts at the height of the 2007 campaigns especially in the days leading to the presidential vote and during the post election violence period. Please be informed that Jukwaa will remain standing long after the vile worms sent from elsewhere have lived out their short existence. Onyango Oloo
Administrator
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Post by job on Apr 8, 2011 18:06:35 GMT 3
And why must this progressive board be used to advertise their hateful impunity & propaganda? Beer and Cigarettes aren't advertised in Church!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 8, 2011 18:16:38 GMT 3
And why must this progressive board be used to advertise their hateful impunity & propaganda? Beer and Cigarettes aren't advertised in Church!
If I were you, I would not worry too much about that. I predict that the majority of these impostors will ultimately REGRET and RUE the day they brought their propaganda to Jukwaa.Given the collective intelligence here in Jukwaa, it is just a matter of time before they are all EXPOSED, RIDICULED and JETTISONED to the political dustbins. Many of us in this forum have been on the internet long enough to track these characters digitally to their very homes. For instance, as the administrator of this site I know where all Jukwaa members are posting from and it is just my professional diligence and ethics which makes me PROTECT the identity of all you- even those Jukwaa members who are directly working for the NSIS and other spooks.
As long as they do not try to destroy Jukwaa I will leave them alone but I do reserve the right to kick out any and all infiltrators if I believe their existence here is detrimental to our overall health.
Job:Let me make a prediction. Watch this space as some of these guys VOLUNTARILY close and delete their accounts as we sniff ever closer to their masters' lairs. Yes, soon they will be a veritable stampede and exodus from Jukwaa, in much the same way that rodents flee from a freshly fumigated building.
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Post by abdulmote on Apr 8, 2011 22:27:08 GMT 3
The Poll linked above through the site given is nothing but representation of the views reflecting the web site's membership or visitors therein. Indeed the views stemming out of the same are absolutely wrong and without a shred of doubt. flawed and wholly unreliable results that can only come out of such an exercise gathered in such a useless and flawed process. Statistically or otherwise, it is totally a waste of time.
Having said that, I personally find it selfishly offensive, insulting to our good intelligence and fraudulently manipulative that such a Poll and its contents can be or should be provided a forum within our somewhat respectable Jukwaa and so benefit from attention of its nearly all respectable membership.
If I had my way as admin of Jukwaa, I would without hesitation delete such filth, pronto out of our dignified and respectable sight!
Why can’t 'they' simply understand that it is only the ICC that can decide on the suspects' fate through the evidence provided given time?
OO, you don't have to tolerate such filthy ways on our behalf or for our sake you know.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 9, 2011 8:58:11 GMT 3
My fellow Mombasa former co resident:
Thanks for your comment above.
I usually like to give people enough rope to hang themselves so that when I make a surgical strike everybody knows why.
Watch this space.
Onyango Oloo
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 9, 2011 13:16:17 GMT 3
OCAMPOSIX.COM - Domain Informationnew Domain OCAMPOSIX.COM [ Site Info Traceroute RBL/DNSBL lookup ] Registrar DYNADOT, LLC Registrar URL www.dynadot.comWhois server whois.dynadot.com Created 21-Mar-2011 Updated 21-Mar-2011 Expires 21-Mar-2012 Time Left 346 days 13 hours 47 minutes Status clientTransferProhibited DNS servers NS7.HOSTNINE.COM 64.38.1.218 NS8.HOSTNINE.COM 72.232.177.114 OCAMPOSIX.COM - Geo Information IP Address 173.192.220.106 Host ocamposix.com Location US US, United States City Dallas, TX 75207 Organization CTC ISP SoftLayer Technologies AS Number AS36351 SoftLayer Technologies Inc. Latitude 32°78'25" North Longitude 96°82'07" West Distance 9645.17 km (5993.23 miles) Map Locationnew World Map Google Maps Yahoo Maps Microsoft Live Maps Map location OCAMPOSIX.COM - Whois Information Domain Name: ocamposix.com Registered at www.dynadot.comRegistrant: Martin Smith 78954 Tel aviv 00999 Israel Administrative Contact: Martin Smith 78954 Tel aviv 00999 Israel antidavinci@yahoo.com +235 2459875 Technical Contact: Martin Smith 78954 Tel aviv 00999 Israel antidavinci@yahoo.com +235 2459875 Record expires on 2012/03/21 UTC Record created on 2011/03/21 UTC Domain servers in listed order: ns7.hostnine.com ns8.hostnine.com
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Post by mzee on Apr 9, 2011 13:41:30 GMT 3
searching google maps using the above given co ordinates, I could actually zoom into the guys location and address. I then tried street view google and kaboom.
Further I confirmed that these corordinates 32°78'25" North and 96°82'07" West are at the below named address.
SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
6400 International Parkway, Plano, TX
214) 442-0600 West. RTechHandle:
Further more:
IPADM258-ARIN RTechName: IP Admin RTechPhone: +1-214-442-0600 RTechEmail: ipadmin@softlayer.com rest/poc ..." -cqcounter.com
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 9, 2011 17:08:10 GMT 3
AS YOU CONTINUE DIGGING UP THE LAYERS ON OCAMPO6.COM AND MARTIN SMITH.. YOU GET THESE...
Email: antidavinci@yahoo.com
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
98.139.54.60 Sunnyvale, CA US Inktomi Corporation
Inktomi Corporation
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089-1019 map
Phone:
(650) 653-2800
Inktomi Corporation in Sunnyvale, CA is a private company categorized under Application Computer Software. Companies like Inktomi Corporation usually offer: Bargain Software, Photo Software, Dvd Burning Software, Buy Software and Remote Software.
Ocampo 6 & CO Paid a marketing company to hype up their profiles using a website.. that is my opinion.. using Softflayer network services.. for website.. hiding behind front men.. i.e marketing team..
but one can find out who is behind it still.. keep looking ;D
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Post by gachquota on Apr 10, 2011 18:35:13 GMT 3
Dat website iz useless.
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