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Post by reporter911 on Apr 8, 2011 19:40:43 GMT 3
OK folks, as I promised we have now unleashed the despicable piece of trash minted by PNU crooks. It seems the plan was that should anybody be detained they would unleash this in the streets and towns and the clear message would be that ODM and Raila have locked folks. The ressult is quite predictable. There is a pdf version complete with the letter head in full colour. But here is the piece of crap. Office Of The Prosecutor
International Criminal Court
Communications
Post Office Box 19519
2500CM The Hague
The NetherlandsAtt: Luis Moreno-OcampoRE: HATE SPEECH, REQUESTING YOUR URGENT ATTENTION Dear Sir I once again humbly write to you to intervene in a matter of pressing National Importance. This matter is of concern to the Hon Prime Minister, with whose express authority I write this letter, both in his capacity as coprincipal ofGovernment, and as the head of the majority party in the Republic of Kenya. In the past few days, as the six suspects prepare to make their maiden appearance in court, there has been a flurry of political activities by two of the suspects, specifically, William Samoei Ruto and Uhuru Kenyatta. In our opinion, and those of the majority of Kenyans, these developments are alarming and abhorrent. Inflammatory speeches have been made in vernacular, (copy enclosed) stoking memories of the 2007 violence they orchestrated. ODM
as a party, under the leadership of the Right Honorable PM, Raila Odinga, EGH, wishes to condemn these speeches. We are a National party and view Kenya as acohesive society, and we do not accept that any Kenyan should make a speech on National TV in any other than a National language, of which only English and Kiswahili are recognized. ODM has always adhered to this principal of National identity. We have a National Cohesion body tasked with taking firm action against such individuals, but it has time and again shown it's impotence in confronting individuals from the PNU wing of government. In view of the lack of any other credible organization that can take remedial action, we hereby implore you, onthe behalf of the majority of Kenyans, to use your good offices to bring an end to this tribal crusade.Our legal officers have unanimously opined that you have the power to seek the detention of these suspects if you can prove that they are promoting additional violence. The tape submitted herein and the translated transcript, provide you
solid evidence of this fact.Although this particular tape is now in the public domain, we submit it, plus this letter, under the same confidentiality privilege under which we have been providing evidence against our errant party members who comprise two of your suspects and whose actions in the violence we abhor.We trust that you will take up this matter with the same vigour you have consistently displayed against those who would destroy the fabric of our society, committing crimes against the innocent. It is our position that the security of Kenyans and ongoing reconciliation efforts would be compromised if these warmongers are allowed to return home immediately. Signed Anyang' Nyongo Chungwa Moja, Maisha Bora 2 Surely, this reads like a true ODM letter and it in many ways corroborates the PM's views in his last address. It is also in tandem with ODMs actions and behavior over the twin issues of the ICC and deferral. Does it not surprise that Ocampo has already and immediately applied for some of those conditionalities requested in this letter to be enforced by the court? ha!!ha! nice try.. the ICC has it's eyes all over Kenya, unless they are blind which we all know they aint.. the whole world watched Uhuru and Ruto running around like headless chickens threatening everyone that is in support of the ICC.. when they were served with their sermons to appear they were asked specifically not to engage in anything that could be deemed as incitement, meet with fellow accused persons e.t.c.. they gave the ICC the finger and went ahead with their activities of holding Rallies all over the country together.. Unless you are implying that the ICC is Blind, stupid and they can't see or read what is in the print in the Kenyan papers ;D ;D to add the insult some useless, foolish PNU goons add a fake letter thinking ICC is so clueless.. I bet you that letter the forensic team is on it and finger prints will be found.. plus those on the Video they forward to the ICC.. those fakers will be none soon The Ocampo 6 & supporters will find out the hard way that fake evidence will never work at the ICC;D |
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 8, 2011 19:56:46 GMT 3
Folks:Like I said on the thread on www.ocamposix.com, I am seriously contemplating EXPOSING and DENOUNCING some of these forgers who are lurking right here in our Jukwaa midst. Onyango Oloo . Are you sure that is a route you want to go to Oloo? Kamalet ;D ;D why are you worried if you have nothing to hide? the broader issues being is to protect Kenya and not let what happened in 2007-8 happen again as per the fake letter seems to portray.. The administrator has not refused any member to post their views on here, pro any party they are affiliated with or not.. why are you worried of exposure? if you have nothing to hide.. you should stand proud if you have your own reasons for supporting PNU.. it is your right.. but fake post or letters should be checked out if indeed they are used for more sinister motives. |
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Post by mzee on Apr 8, 2011 21:35:02 GMT 3
. Are you sure that is a route you want to go to Oloo? Kamalet ;D ;D why are you worried if you have nothing to hide? the broader issues being is to protect Kenya and not let what happened in 2007-8 happen again as per the fake letter seems to portray.. The administrator has not refused any member to post their views on here, pro any party they are affiliated with or not.. why are you worried of exposure? if you have nothing to hide.. you should stand proud if you have your own reasons for supporting PNU.. it is your right.. but fake post or letters should be checked out if indeed they are used for more sinister motives. Yes, why is KAMALE woried? Very interesting threat from the double O. OO you need say a word more, they are exposed already |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 9, 2011 9:32:15 GMT 3
uuuuummhhh help a sista out here ;D did i just hear (read  ) a threat right here or do i like realy need to clean the wax outta mi ears (eyes ;D ) You read ME RIGHT my dear Sista. If you look at my latest thread you will notice that I have already began acting. If YOU violate our rules, you will also be kicked out.I am sorry but this is NOT a Monty Python network where ANYTHING goes. Onyango Oloo
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Apr 9, 2011 9:35:45 GMT 3
KamaleI believe that it is a figure of speech. I have never seen it happen here if we were to go by history. OO would not do that. But it is interesting how the bubble has exploded on the Fake ODM Letter and the Ocamposix.com.Ati "Martin Smith" owns about 715 other domains? I would be worried about this. I will not allow Jukwaa to be used as a fifth column for people with nefarious motives.
They should leave BEFORE I expose them.Needless to say, I am NOT referring to people like Kamale who have been among our stellar QUALITY members. I actually admire his courage to express his views without fear or favour.
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Post by commes on Apr 9, 2011 9:52:03 GMT 3
KamaleI believe that it is a figure of speech. I have never seen it happen here if we were to go by history. OO would not do that. But it is interesting how the bubble has exploded on the Fake ODM Letter and the Ocamposix.com.Ati "Martin Smith" owns about 715 other domains? I would be worried about this. I will not allow Jukwaa to be used as a fifth column for people with nefarious motives.
They should leave BEFORE I expose them.Needless to say, I am NOT referring to people like Kamale who have been among our stellar QUALITY members. I actually admire his courage to express his views without fear or favour.
Onyango Oloo
AdministratorMany corporate and leading organizations value quality control and quality assurance! This is an excellent move! |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 9, 2011 17:39:37 GMT 3
Now Nyong'o points fingers at ODM-K for ODM's own woes. kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69726Surely these guys will never lack anyone to blame even when it is clear that they are their own enemies. ODM has disowned a letter purported to have originated from the party written to International Criminal Court (ICC) to detain Deputy Premier Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto for making inflammatory statements. The party is pointing an accusing finger at ODM Kenya for having forged its letter head and secretary general's signature. The party's Secretary General Anyang Ny'ong'o who is New York claims that at no time did he or any other party official write the letter which he termed poorly scripted to ICC prosecutor Moreno ocampo to have the two individuals incarcerated ,urging the public to dismiss the letter with the contempt it deserves. [/b] The letter written to the office of the prosecutor of the ICC reads in part " In the past few days, as the six suspects prepare to make their maiden appearance in court, there has been a flurry of political activities by two of the suspects, specifically, William Ruto and Uhuru Kenyatta. In our opinion, and those of the majority of Kenyans, these developments are alarming and abhorrent. Inflammatory speeches have been made in vernacular, stoking memories of the 2007 violence they orchestrated" The letter which bears the signature of Nyong'o claims that the national cohesion has no teeth and hence cannot take any action against the two high ranking political figures. It went further to claims that Kenya lacks a credible organization to nip hate speech mongers urging the prosecutor to seek the detention of the suspects if he can prove that the two want to cause violence in the country . But the letter might not be a surprise given the warnings from the ICC judges. Presiding Judge of the Pre-Trial Chamber II, Lady Justice Ekaterina Trendafilova, warned the suspects they risk arrest if they sustain statements that may trigger fresh violence. |
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Post by savekenya011 on Apr 9, 2011 18:52:26 GMT 3
uuuuummhhh help a sista out here ;D did i just hear (read ) a threat right here or do i like realy need to clean the wax outta mi ears (eyes ;D ) You read ME RIGHT my dear Sista. If you look at my latest thread you will notice that I have already began acting. If YOU violate our rules, you will also be kicked out.I am sorry but this is NOT a Monty Python network where ANYTHING goes. Onyango Oloo
LOL! Easy OO! I didnt mean YOU were issuing the threat! The way I saw it, twas like YOU were being dared if "..you really want to go "that way"?That sounded to me like like a threat! Like s'one daring you saying:"C'mon OO!You wouldnt do that!". And i was like, mmhhh he is the admin!He definitely can!Are you threatening him to do it? That was what I meant o'wise good work I saw this morning bout some trouble makers who are really wasting wana Jukwaa's precious time on issues that deserve no airtime! Cheers! |
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Post by escale on Apr 9, 2011 19:29:31 GMT 3
Now Nyong'o points fingers at ODM-K for ODM's own woes. kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=69726Surely these guys will never lack anyone to blame even when it is clear that they are their own enemies. ODM has disowned a letter purported to have originated from the party written to International Criminal Court (ICC) to detain Deputy Premier Uhuru Kenyatta and Eldoret North MP William Ruto for making inflammatory statements. The party is pointing an accusing finger at ODM Kenya for having forged its letter head and secretary general's signature. The party's Secretary General Anyang Ny'ong'o who is New York claims that at no time did he or any other party official write the letter which he termed poorly scripted to ICC prosecutor Moreno ocampo to have the two individuals incarcerated ,urging the public to dismiss the letter with the contempt it deserves. [/b] [/quote] This KBC report is either mischievous or Nyong'o's press release that was posted here earlier by tnk is not accurate. I did not read in that release any accusation of ODM-K. Anyone?? |
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Post by merlin on Apr 9, 2011 20:53:54 GMT 3
ODM needs a professional IT security advisor.
Some days ago I read a press release written by ODM and signed by the party's Secretary General Anyang Ny’ong’o addressed to the Newspapers.
The letter was in PDF format though it surprised me that the letter was in non protected mode.
I was able to copy with easy Anyang Ny’ong’o signature – which I did not use and erased from my computer.
ODM should take more care with their electronic communications and I perceive they need a professional IT security advisor to train their staff and instigate a proper information security system.
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Post by Luol Deng on Apr 9, 2011 23:23:14 GMT 3
OK folks, as I promised we have now unleashed the despicable piece of trash minted by PNU crooks. It seems the plan was that should anybody be detained they would unleash this in the streets and towns and the clear message would be that ODM and Raila have locked folks. The ressult is quite predictable. There is a pdf version complete with the letter head in full colour. But here is the piece of crap. Office Of The Prosecutor
International Criminal Court
Communications
Post Office Box 19519
2500CM The Hague
The NetherlandsAtt: Luis Moreno-OcampoRE: HATE SPEECH, REQUESTING YOUR URGENT ATTENTION Dear Sir I once again humbly write to you to intervene in a matter of pressing National Importance. This matter is of concern to the Hon Prime Minister, with whose express authority I write this letter, both in his capacity as coprincipal ofGovernment, and as the head of the majority party in the Republic of Kenya.In the past few days, as the six suspects prepare to make their maiden appearance in court, there has been a flurry of political activities by two of the suspects, specifically, William Samoei Ruto and Uhuru Kenyatta. In our opinion, and those of the majority of Kenyans, these developments are alarming and abhorrent. Inflammatory speeches have been made in vernacular, (copy enclosed) stoking memories of the 2007 violence they orchestrated. ODM
as a party, under the leadership of the Right Honorable PM, Raila Odinga, EGH, wishes to condemn these speeches. We are a National party and view Kenya as acohesive society, and we do not accept that any Kenyan should make a speech on National TV in any other than a National language, of which only English and Kiswahili are recognized. ODM has always adhered to this principal of National identity. We have a National Cohesion body tasked with taking firm action against such individuals, but it has time and again shown it's impotence in confronting individuals from the PNU wing of government. In view of the lack of any other credible organization that can take remedial action, we hereby implore you, onthe behalf of the majority of Kenyans, to use your good offices to bring an end to this tribal crusade.Our legal officers have unanimously opined that you have the power to seek the detention of these suspects if you can prove that they are promoting additional violence. The tape submitted herein and the translated transcript, provide you
solid evidence of this fact.Although this particular tape is now in the public domain, we submit it, plus this letter, under the same confidentiality privilege under which we have been providing evidence against our errant party members who comprise two of your suspects and whose actions in the violence we abhor.We trust that you will take up this matter with the same vigour you have consistently displayed against those who would destroy the fabric of our society, committing crimes against the innocent. It is our position that the security of Kenyans and ongoing reconciliation efforts would be compromised if these warmongers are allowed to return home immediately. Signed Anyang' Nyongo Chungwa Moja, Maisha Bora 2 Adongo, Is this the text of the letter verbatim? If so, the thing that normally exposes these fraudsters more than anything else is the way they spell Nyong'o's name. There was one that was circulating in the net a few years ago, they spelt his name as Nyong.....In this case the apostrophe in the surname is completely left out. Forgery 101, if you want to forge a letter, you should at least know how to spell the name of the person whose identity you are stealing... |
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Post by gachquota on Apr 10, 2011 18:33:35 GMT 3
O.D.M.......thanks for standing with wanainchi.
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Post by federa on Apr 11, 2011 20:40:27 GMT 3
It is depressing to see very sensible people trying to defend some very dangerous moves from these rogue group out to protect the Ocampo 6 and reap political dividend from their situation at the same time. We've witnessed the pre-ICC rallies and now this letter-faking moves. I am ready to bet that before long this group is going to do something so despicable that even the people defending them now will be unable to defend. By then a lot of harm will have befallen the country. Will are dealing here with some very dangerous elements who are getting increasingly desperate.
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Post by phil on Jul 12, 2011 17:05:26 GMT 3
Eugene Wamalwa was this morning summoned to CID headquarters to record a statement over allegations that he read or presented a forged letter purportedly authored by Prof Anyang Nyongo at Uhuru Park on return of The Ocampo 6 from the Hague.
ODM filed an official complaint against Eugene Wamalwa and the matter is now subject of serious investigations by Kenya's CID. While I do not wish to bet on any substantive action by Kenya Police on this, anything is now possible in the new dispensation given the speed at which Okemo and Gichuru have been promptly brought to book.
Eugene Wamalwa and his ilk will be quick to call this political persecution and should he end up in court, Kenyans should not be surprised to see a couple fo UDM MPs accompanied by hired goons trooping to court to intimidate the judge.
The ICC trials have never been about 2012 but about bringing justice to the victims of PEV. In any case, the same UDM MPs and others from GEMA defeated parliamentary attempt at establishing a local tribunal as was recommended by the Waki Commission.
I predict that ICC trials will be a hot campaign issue in 2012 but trust gullible IDPs to believe that those charged are not the ones who caused their suffering. Fingers will be pointed at Kibaki and Raila as is already happening.
The use of political propaganda to fan ethnic animosity should be eliminated totally. I think if Eugene were to be charged in court and possibly jailed, it would send a strong message to some of these politicians.
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) a threat right here or do i like realy need to clean the wax outta mi ears (eyes ;D )
