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Post by job on May 3, 2012 22:05:46 GMT 3
For those who were not able to follow Ho. Musalia Mudavadi's function at the KICC, below is his full speech on the day he severed links with the ODM. A very presidential speech. ```````` FELLOW KENYANS,
I want to thank you all for the goodwill you have offered to me over the recent past when all attention was on our political situation and scrutiny was reserved for the course it might take. A week ago, I announced that I will be in a new political home to realize my presidential ambitions come today. As I actualize that resolve, I wish to briefly look back to my friends and colleagues in ODM. I sincerely thank you for the journey we took together over the past seven years.
I want to particularly thank the many ODM branch officials across the 42 Counties, some of whom are here, for the enthusiasm and unforgettable warmth when I visited. We sat with you for hours and you all helped me understand the immensity of the challenges facing our nation; and the unique opportunities we have to help save our country from the politics of polarization and intrigue. I walk with encouragement as I take the next step in my service to our great nation.
Fellow Kenyans,
Some few months ago, I had indicated that I have crossed the Rubicon in my belief that we needed to advance a new course of democratic principles and practices in Kenya. I have said and repeat that internal democracy in political parties is as important as the practice of democratic governance is in government. You know what to expect of your government if your party of choice is ready and willing to practice internal democracy.
As a country, we have been stuck in the turbulence of polarization at every electoral circle. In my tour of our counties, Kenyans were fearful of what might become another frightful experience of the 2007 elections.
I promised these Kenyans a democratic train with 47 bogies that will unite Kenyans; bring peace and unity, ensure tolerance and reconciliation; be inclusive against tribalism and the politics that have resulted in cyclic ethnic polarization of our country. We all agreed Kenya belongs to all of us. In the 42 counties I have been to, Kenyans urged me to be different; to reach out to all Kenyans. They desire unity of purpose; they detest politics of isolation. I, Musalia, will therefore work with everyone, and every Kenyan of goodwill to bring stability of livelihoods and security of persons and property.
In my consultations, I have reflected a lot and have deliberately avoided considering a party with regional or ethnic brand recognition. I have sought to identify with a party and leaders whose pursuits are consistent with my aspirations for a country governed by the rule of law; committed to uniting all Kenyans; and who are sensitive to the need to end marginalization and exclusion.
My trail led me to a party and a team; patriotic enough to capture the national imagination; ambitious enough to reignite the appetites of real change crusaders; youthful and radiant enough to detain the gaze of our younger generations; and fresh enough to allow for a bust of new energy in our body politic. I have walked the last mile to this democratic train.
I, Musalia Mudavadi, wish to announce that I will be offering myself as a candidate for the office of president of the republic of Kenya on the ticket of The United Democratic Forum Party (UDF) at the next elections.
I therefore urge Kenyans to board the United Democratic Forum Party train with me.
UDF espouse the principles of internal democracy and devolution that I stand for. The UDF philosophy is grounded in its motto; Unity for Prosperity which signals a new dawn for Kenya. The new dawn under a UDF anchor signals a change in the way we have managed our public affairs. UDF is and will remain a national party and institution. UDF is not a party of particular individuals, community, ethnic group or class of people. UDF will not be a weapon of terror.
The UDF symbol is a clasped hand in supplication. It is the universal and eternal symbolic hand of peace, solidarity and unity. We are and remain non-vindictive, hate no one but love and welcome everyone. We stretch the hand of peace to all Kenyans.
Sisi tutajenga kuta ambazo zime bomoka We will focus on issues.
We will tell you how by restructuring agriculture, eggs produced in Kenya should not be more expensive than imported eggs from Israel, and therefore how we will create a minimum of1.5 million jobs for our young people within my term in office.. In education, we will not complain about the high dropout rate at secondary level. We will tell how to stop the haemorrhage of young talents, ensuring that all pupils acquire secondary education and technical skills through equipping 1,000 youth polytechnics.
We will of course show you how we will assist small and medium enterprises, the jua kali, to create millions of jobs. We will not be in the business of appropriating for ourselves the Constitution. UDF is committed to implementing the spirit and letter of the Constitution as desired and mandated by Kenyans. We stand for accountable and transparent systems and institutions in Kenya.
These are only examples of the components of our policy outlines that will cover the economy, infrastructure development, health, security, ICT, energy, regional and international engagements, among others.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Even as I applied myself to the challenges of making a new home, I have deeply reflected on the positions I hold in the party and in government on behalf of Kenyans. I have resolved this way;
That I have resigned as the ODM Deputy Party Leader.
When we created the coalition government four positions were written into the National Accord whose holders could only be removed by resignation, ill-health, Parliament, a court of law or the collapse of the coalition government. These positions include the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister. Ministerial responsibilities are national in nature and are an exclusive preserve of the appointing authority.
Having consulted with the appointing authority, I have tendered my resignation as Minister for Local Government. I will, however, continue to serve as Deputy Prime Minister and Member of Parliament for Sabatia Constituency.
Over the coming days, I will be embarking upon a journey to your homes and your souls. I will bring to you my vision of this great country and offer the comprehensive programmes on the basis of which I wish to be gifted with the privilege of serving as your president. The first step on this road will be a National Rally we will hold at Afraha Stadium, Nakuru this Sunday, 6th May 2012.
May I thank all Kenyans for their support. Thank you for your generous attention. God bless Kenya and its proud, hardworking citizens. Reread your own words and first interpretation where you correctly used the phrase " severed links with the ODM" Then re-read Musalia's speech itself paying attention to the inflated fonts and highlighted words. Then as a Mwalimu; check the Political Parties Act without trying your futile acrobatic spin.
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Post by mbuta on May 3, 2012 22:22:24 GMT 3
So, just an innocent question. Is Musalia an automatic Presidential candidate on UDF or he has to get elected through all the 47 counties?
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Post by akinyi2005 on May 3, 2012 22:36:36 GMT 3
So, just an innocent question. Is Musalia an automatic Presidential candidate on UDF or he has to get elected through all the 47 counties? apparently not according to the owners.... ....."The party belongs to Kenyans and has no presidential candidate. It is members who would determine its leader," Kioni said.On claims that an ally of President Kibaki was behind its registration Kioni remarked: "An idea can crystallise from anywhere and blossom."
Kioni, who still supports Uhuru’s bid for president, said the Gatundu South MP was still welcome in the party since UDF has no room for automatic nominationwww.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057568&cid=4¤tPage=2
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Post by adongo23456 on May 3, 2012 22:37:31 GMT 3
MMkuu Unfortunately these ODMers are lovers of the twist and not of the dance kind. Anyone who reads Mudavadi's speech should find nothing that indicates he had left ODM. First he was very clear that he will be offering himself for PORK on a UDF ticket - with clearly the elections not announced, there is no instance of him indicating that he had officially left the party. He only resigned as ODM Party Leader but never said that he had resigned from the ODM party. Essentially he holds no office in UDF and only associates himself with it...pretty much like Ruto and many other political prostitutes around the country. ODM are stuck with Mudavadi till the elections or when he does them a favour and resigns as DPM. hehehehehehehe. I didn't know spinning a lie can be this hard. Someone ought to start a school to train people for this line of work. Something like International Lying Academy. Can any of you at least read the Political Parties Act which phil has posted even in this thread and everywhere else in this board. How hard is it to understand that. Good heavens! We know Mudavadi will not master the courage to face voters in his own constituency because facing an election is never an easy thing. But please stop lying openly. Read the provisions in the Political Parties Act. There is no basis under the present law that defends Mudavadi keeping his seat. It is illegal. Period.The law is simple and straight foward. In the big picture, Mudavadi is headed to the spitoon after they chew and spit him out ito the ugly pit. Ask Kalonzo. They chew him and spit him down there. Now he is wallowing in the flooding spitoon. Then they brought in Ruto. He was the prince next to Muthamaki. They chew and he is now in the spitoon. Eugene Wamalwa. They used him to crawl around in the prayer meetings even reading forgeries about the ICC crazies. They chew him and kaboom down the spitoon he goes. Now there is new tobacco called Mudavadi to be chewed and spit right down to drown in the same spitoon. What else is new about this game. Raila is probably the only one who behaved like that notorious alligator which was swallowed by the poor python thinking it will have enough food for weeks. The alligator split the python's tummy into two and got out leaving behind a dying python. No spitoon for that one. So yeah, let Mudavadi enjoy a little before he heads to the spitoon. That is a bad place to be. He asked for it.
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Post by roughrider on May 3, 2012 22:39:58 GMT 3
Since Job, Phil and others have already explained the legal issues clearly, I am more concerned about morality and integrity.
It offends my sensibilities every time a politician promotes another party while abandoning the platform that sponsored him. It reeks of dishonesty and disrespect for voters.
The worst case of this disease was exhibited when Uhuru Kenyatta abandoned the important national duty of Official Opposition leadership to cavort with his tribesman at State House.
But alas! the chickens always come home to roost. It can be argued that Uhuru's myopia and tribalism in that selfish action, paved the path to the Hague.
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Post by roughrider on May 3, 2012 22:45:14 GMT 3
So, just an innocent question. Is Musalia an automatic Presidential candidate on UDF or he has to get elected through all the 47 counties? It is a good question. We will wait for Musalia and his new friends to answer. Meanwhile I cannot help recalling that Musalia once contested ODM presidential nominations..... and lost graciously. Then, internal democracy was at work! But when I glance even further... I cannot help recalling that Musalia Mudavadi was in Kanu for endless years living the Kanu brand of 'internal democracy' as dictated by Baba Moi. Where were his principles then? Where was his conscience?
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Post by adongo23456 on May 3, 2012 22:54:02 GMT 3
So, just an innocent question. Is Musalia an automatic Presidential candidate on UDF or he has to get elected through all the 47 counties? apparently not according to the owners.... ....."The party belongs to Kenyans and has no presidential candidate. It is members who would determine its leader," Kioni said.On claims that an ally of President Kibaki was behind its registration Kioni remarked: "An idea can crystallise from anywhere and blossom."
Kioni, who still supports Uhuru’s bid for president, said the Gatundu South MP was still welcome in the party since UDF has no room for automatic nominationwww.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057568&cid=4¤tPage=2That is what we have been talking about. Mudavadi is in a pickle. On one hand he wants to project himself as the automatic presidential nominee for UDF. On the other hand he has to remember he claims to have quit ODM because he was not given a fair chance to contest the nomination. Mudavadi is going to be at pain to explain why he would want automatic nomination in UDF if he ran away from the same in ODM as per his claims which we all know were mere excuses. Now people like Kioni are telling him there will be no automatic nominations in UDF. Expect that to be a chorus soon. People will not allow a stranger to walk into their party and put it in his pocket. You are going to need a couple billion bucks to buy people to do that. Remember Ruto and UDM? They ate his money and threw him out. No mercy in politics. If Mudavadi was to face a nomination process in UDF, he has two problems. His supporters whom he has made to believe he was merely picking a party which will annoint him will be alarmed that their man has just started another process in UDF. That will kill the myth Mudavadi is trying to build that he is the annointed one. Secondly if UDF opens its nominations, it is very possible and even likely that they may pass a resolution to run a joint nomination with Uhuru's NPK as a form of mini G7 and whoever loses must support the winner. That will drive Mudavadi up the wall. Uhuru can try to convince him that they will compete in the nomination but if Uhuru gets incapacitated by the ICC before the elections then he will hand it over to Mudavadi. Drama and more drama. Either way Mudavadi has walked into a landmine probably with no ammunitions of his own. Nice plan.
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Post by tnk on May 3, 2012 23:40:16 GMT 3
apparently not according to the owners.... ....."The party belongs to Kenyans and has no presidential candidate. It is members who would determine its leader," Kioni said.On claims that an ally of President Kibaki was behind its registration Kioni remarked: "An idea can crystallise from anywhere and blossom."
Kioni, who still supports Uhuru’s bid for president, said the Gatundu South MP was still welcome in the party since UDF has no room for automatic nominationwww.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057568&cid=4¤tPage=2That is what we have been talking about. Mudavadi is in a pickle. On one hand he wants to project himself as the automatic presidential nominee for UDF. On the other hand he has to remember he claims to have quit ODM because he was not given a fair chance to contest the nomination. Mudavadi is going to be at pain to explain why he would want automatic nomination in UDF if he ran away from the same in ODM as per his claims which we all know were mere excuses. Now people like Kioni are telling him there will be no automatic nominations in UDF. Expect that to be a chorus soon. People will not allow a stranger to walk into their party and put it in his pocket. You are going to need a couple billion bucks to buy people to do that. Remember Ruto and UDM? They ate his money and threw him out. No mercy in politics. If Mudavadi was to face a nomination process in UDF, he has two problems. His supporters whom he has made to believe he was merely picking a party which will annoint him will be alarmed that their man has just started another process in UDF. That will kill the myth Mudavadi is trying to build that he is the annointed one. Secondly if UDF opens its nominations, it is very possible and even likely that they may pass a resolution to run a joint nomination with Uhuru's NPK as a form of mini G7 and whoever loses must support the winner. That will drive Mudavadi up the wall. Uhuru can try to convince him that they will compete in the nomination but if Uhuru gets incapacitated by the ICC before the elections then he will hand it over to Mudavadi. Drama and more drama. Either way Mudavadi has walked into a landmine probably with no ammunitions of his own. Nice plan. adongo we are told that MM consulted widely and over a 2 month period to add on what you say above, i would ask MM's handlers the following upto just two months back MM was firmly in ODM talking about the policies etc etc. his one and only bone of contention is the clause on nomination, i.e he wanted a chance at nomination a look at UDF and we see its made up 90% or more of PNU affiliated MPs a trip down memory lane and we see that even recently MM as local govt minister had some proposals on county governance that met stiff resistance from the PNU wing. am sure there are many such instances so how then does someone joining a largely PNU party expect in terms of policy and support? even ruto was politically smart enough to move with his cheering squad of .... please note .... MPs and ready made party officials. MM is joining a PNU affiliate party ... alone... and even if a few supporters will join him in UDF, they may be just mere members maybe with a token one or two posts. i.e he will have no clout or sway with the UDF party organs. is this really a sane and thinking person? MMs survival in UDF is dependent entirely on the goodwill of the abdikadir's, kioni et al. this is an antelope joining a pride of lions during lunch (read hunting) break, but then i could be wrong. i guess einsteins often quoted "doing the same thing...." does afterall have some good side to it. this trying something fresh ..... appears risky or in the very least tricky and also how will he reconcile his supporters whom i assume supported his and ODMs policies by doing a complete about face and now teaming up with a PNU support base? i do not want to ask what were they thinking because clearly they were not. the only way to gain any serious foothold in UDF is to bulldoze his way in. and as you say, that negates everything he says he is running away from secondly his reason for running away were a number of party constitution amendments, what happens when these amendments are put in place, and if these are done in good time what does that say about MM? in sum. MM had no issues with ODM policy except for nomination issues, he has now moved to an outfit that has had near opposite approaches to ODM either he has been lying to ODM and himself (and supporters) for a very long time, or the man has just swallowed the alligator you mentioned in another post. he has no choice but to bend to the whims of the owners of UDF am observing the situation unfold with a permanent smirk on my face. hapa iko kitu!!
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Post by tnk on May 4, 2012 0:26:22 GMT 3
MMkuu Unfortunately these ODMers are lovers of the twist and not of the dance kind. Anyone who reads Mudavadi's speech should find nothing that indicates he had left ODM. First he was very clear that he will be offering himself for PORK on a UDF ticket - with clearly the elections not announced, there is no instance of him indicating that he had officially left the party. He only resigned as ODM Party Leader but never said that he had resigned from the ODM party. Essentially he holds no office in UDF and only associates himself with it...pretty much like Ruto and many other political prostitutes around the country. ODM are stuck with Mudavadi till the elections or when he does them a favour and resigns as DPM. hehehe kamale just quoting the reason he stays on as DPM, i,e he is still an ODM MP, then there was no need to resign from Min of Local Govt either since that is pretty much the same state office as that of DPM, and it is still a post that serves the wananchi very much like or even more than that of DPM and both these posts have the same "appointing authority" the only position he need to have resigned from is that of deputy party leader which he could have done quietly. and since he has not defected to UDF officially as you put it, then what was all that noise/launch about? resigning as ODM deputy leader? really? was that all? what will happen when he actually signs up for UDF? wow!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2012 6:51:27 GMT 3
Team Shaitan Party. masquerading as the dove. How UDF party was put together
WEDNESDAY, 02 MAY 2012 23:50 BY MOSOKU GEOFFREY The UDF party was formed in April 2011 by individuals who are close to President Kibaki and was initially linked to DPM Uhuru Kenyatta. Kibaki's PA Prof Nick Wanjohi was central in the formation of UDF which began through recruitment training exercises camouflaged as leadership training forums held in secret locations in Karen and Limuru. Wanjohi and Francis Xavier Wangombe, who works at the Office of the President as a finance officer, were said to be facilitators of the trainings.
Former and current intelligence officials had been tasked to identify key people across Kenya to attend the "training". Those targeted included opinion leaders and youth and women representatives from all counties to be conscripted into the "leadership and governance" programme . Between April 2011 and August 2011, more than 20 sessions were held with at least 50 participants, each session costing about Sh1.2 million paid to trainers and participants.
Participants in the leadership forums were paid Sh10,000 per diem for the three days they attend at the Corat Africa Conference Centre in Nairobi’s Karen area. “We were approached by some former intelligence officer who asked us to attend the trainings with transport and accommodation offered,” one participant from Nakuru told the Star then.
In one of the sessions, Wanjohi was listed as a facilitator and participants confirmed that he took them through various issues. USIU Political Science don Prof Munene Macharia led a series of lectures on leadership skills, political mobilisation and recruitment strategies. Nairobi University's history don Dr Amatsimbi Misigo and his sociology counterpart Prof Mbatia were part of the trainers who took the participants through Kenya's political history and recruitment approaches and networking receptively.
When the Star broke the story and revealed Corat Africa Conference Centre in Karen as the venue of the 'trainings', the party changed tack and sought an alternative venue. The organisers then moved to little known Demisse Sisters Centre in Karen to avoid attracting journalists. They later again moved to Limuru for another round of sessions.
Delegates were picked up from the city centre in unmarked vans and booked into the venue. Unlike at Corat, they were not provided with a programme nor did they sign for their Sh10,000 per diem.
All the activities of the party were being done in a clandestine way to conceal any evidence of UDF spending as our source then said the money for running 'the training, leadership and governance symposium' programmes is being sponsored by state officers, and some powerful individuals working for the Office of the President.www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/73941-how-udf-party-was-put-together
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Post by job on May 4, 2012 7:31:38 GMT 3
Team Shaitan Party. masquerading as the dove.
How UDF party was put together
WEDNESDAY, 02 MAY 2012 23:50 BY MOSOKU GEOFFREY The UDF party was formed in April 2011 by individuals who are close to President Kibaki and was initially linked to DPM Uhuru Kenyatta. Kibaki's PA Prof Nick Wanjohi was central in the formation of UDF which began through recruitment training exercises camouflaged as leadership training forums held in secret locations in Karen and Limuru. Wanjohi and Francis Xavier Wangombe, who works at the Office of the President as a finance officer, were said to be facilitators of the trainings.
Former and current intelligence officials had been tasked to identify key people across Kenya to attend the "training". Those targeted included opinion leaders and youth and women representatives from all counties to be conscripted into the "leadership and governance" programme . Between April 2011 and August 2011, more than 20 sessions were held with at least 50 participants, each session costing about Sh1.2 million paid to trainers and participants.
Participants in the leadership forums were paid Sh10,000 per diem for the three days they attend at the Corat Africa Conference Centre in Nairobi’s Karen area. “We were approached by some former intelligence officer who asked us to attend the trainings with transport and accommodation offered,” one participant from Nakuru told the Star then.
In one of the sessions, Wanjohi was listed as a facilitator and participants confirmed that he took them through various issues. USIU Political Science don Prof Munene Macharia led a series of lectures on leadership skills, political mobilisation and recruitment strategies. Nairobi University's history don Dr Amatsimbi Misigo and his sociology counterpart Prof Mbatia were part of the trainers who took the participants through Kenya's political history and recruitment approaches and networking receptively.
When the Star broke the story and revealed Corat Africa Conference Centre in Karen as the venue of the 'trainings', the party changed tack and sought an alternative venue. The organisers then moved to little known Demisse Sisters Centre in Karen to avoid attracting journalists. They later again moved to Limuru for another round of sessions.
Delegates were picked up from the city centre in unmarked vans and booked into the venue. Unlike at Corat, they were not provided with a programme nor did they sign for their Sh10,000 per diem.
All the activities of the party were being done in a clandestine way to conceal any evidence of UDF spending as our source then said the money for running 'the training, leadership and governance symposium' programmes is being sponsored by state officers, and some powerful individuals working for the Office of the President.www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/73941-how-udf-party-was-put-together UDF - so Prof. Nick Wanjohi, Prof. Munene, Francis Wang'ombe, Dr. Misigo, and Prof. Mbatia are Musalia's tutors and mentors in this political acrobatics! Sawa - the scheme is big as it looks. Time will surely tell.
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Post by kamalet on May 4, 2012 9:01:51 GMT 3
MMkuu Unfortunately these ODMers are lovers of the twist and not of the dance kind. Anyone who reads Mudavadi's speech should find nothing that indicates he had left ODM. First he was very clear that he will be offering himself for PORK on a UDF ticket - with clearly the elections not announced, there is no instance of him indicating that he had officially left the party. He only resigned as ODM Party Leader but never said that he had resigned from the ODM party. Essentially he holds no office in UDF and only associates himself with it...pretty much like Ruto and many other political prostitutes around the country. ODM are stuck with Mudavadi till the elections or when he does them a favour and resigns as DPM. hehehe kamale just quoting the reason he stays on as DPM, i,e he is still an ODM MP, then there was no need to resign from Min of Local Govt either since that is pretty much the same state office as that of DPM, and it is still a post that serves the wananchi very much like or even more than that of DPM and both these posts have the same "appointing authority" the only position he need to have resigned from is that of deputy party leader which he could have done quietly. and since he has not defected to UDF officially as you put it, then what was all that noise/launch about? resigning as ODM deputy leader? really? was that all? what will happen when he actually signs up for UDF? wow! tnk If you consider the foolishness of the party leader, MM was much wiser to save himself the indignity of being sacked as was the case with Balala and others before him. He knew Raila cannot sack him as DPM so he stuck to that!
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Post by roughrider on May 4, 2012 9:09:34 GMT 3
hehehe kamale just quoting the reason he stays on as DPM, i,e he is still an ODM MP, then there was no need to resign from Min of Local Govt either since that is pretty much the same state office as that of DPM, and it is still a post that serves the wananchi very much like or even more than that of DPM and both these posts have the same "appointing authority" the only position he need to have resigned from is that of deputy party leader which he could have done quietly. and since he has not defected to UDF officially as you put it, then what was all that noise/launch about? resigning as ODM deputy leader? really? was that all? what will happen when he actually signs up for UDF? wow! tnk If you consider the foolishness of the party leader, MM was much wiser to save himself the indignity of being sacked as was the case with Balala and others before him. He knew Raila cannot sack him as DPM so he stuck to that! Well, the same Mudavadi did read statements, on several occasions, asking Ruto and company to seek fresh mandates because by 'consorting with other parties', they had quit ODM. I suspect the petty, foolish and myopic are actually here on Jukwaa!
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Post by phil on May 4, 2012 10:31:13 GMT 3
tnk If you consider the foolishness of the party leader, MM was much wiser to save himself the indignity of being sacked as was the case with Balala and others before him. He knew Raila cannot sack him as DPM so he stuck to that! Well, the same Mudavadi did read statements, on several occasions, asking Ruto and company to seek fresh mandates because by 'consorting with other parties', they had quit ODM. I suspect the petty, foolish and myopic are actually here on Jukwaa! Actually here is Mudavadi talking the talk. But the idiot cannot walk the talk.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 4, 2012 16:30:44 GMT 3
Team Shaitan Party. masquerading as the dove.
How UDF party was put together
WEDNESDAY, 02 MAY 2012 23:50 BY MOSOKU GEOFFREY The UDF party was formed in April 2011 by individuals who are close to President Kibaki and was initially linked to DPM Uhuru Kenyatta. Kibaki's PA Prof Nick Wanjohi was central in the formation of UDF which began through recruitment training exercises camouflaged as leadership training forums held in secret locations in Karen and Limuru. Wanjohi and Francis Xavier Wangombe, who works at the Office of the President as a finance officer, were said to be facilitators of the trainings.
Former and current intelligence officials had been tasked to identify key people across Kenya to attend the "training". Those targeted included opinion leaders and youth and women representatives from all counties to be conscripted into the "leadership and governance" programme . Between April 2011 and August 2011, more than 20 sessions were held with at least 50 participants, each session costing about Sh1.2 million paid to trainers and participants.
Participants in the leadership forums were paid Sh10,000 per diem for the three days they attend at the Corat Africa Conference Centre in Nairobi’s Karen area. “We were approached by some former intelligence officer who asked us to attend the trainings with transport and accommodation offered,” one participant from Nakuru told the Star then.
In one of the sessions, Wanjohi was listed as a facilitator and participants confirmed that he took them through various issues. USIU Political Science don Prof Munene Macharia led a series of lectures on leadership skills, political mobilisation and recruitment strategies. Nairobi University's history don Dr Amatsimbi Misigo and his sociology counterpart Prof Mbatia were part of the trainers who took the participants through Kenya's political history and recruitment approaches and networking receptively.
When the Star broke the story and revealed Corat Africa Conference Centre in Karen as the venue of the 'trainings', the party changed tack and sought an alternative venue. The organisers then moved to little known Demisse Sisters Centre in Karen to avoid attracting journalists. They later again moved to Limuru for another round of sessions.
Delegates were picked up from the city centre in unmarked vans and booked into the venue. Unlike at Corat, they were not provided with a programme nor did they sign for their Sh10,000 per diem.
All the activities of the party were being done in a clandestine way to conceal any evidence of UDF spending as our source then said the money for running 'the training, leadership and governance symposium' programmes is being sponsored by state officers, and some powerful individuals working for the Office of the President.www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/73941-how-udf-party-was-put-together UDF - so Prof. Nick Wanjohi, Prof. Munene, Francis Wang'ombe, Dr. Misigo, and Prof. Mbatia are Musalia's tutors and mentors in this political acrobatics! Sawa - the scheme is big as it looks. Time will surely tell. job,This confirms everything we have been saying here. This animal was formed for Uhuru as the preferred successor of Mr. "Duly Elected". Of course this is after they foolishly tricked the same Uhuru into mobilising killer mobs to do damage in Naivasha and Nakuru. Now their plan A is practically in shit with the ICC and after trying everything in the books and outside they cannot salvage him. They have now gone to Plan B which is Mudavadi. Which begs the question: What will they do with Plan A? Will they ship him to The Hague to face justice? Will they hide him the Kabuga style? Decisions, decisions! And Mudavadi is supposed to help them fix all these! Talk about being delusional. A rock and a hard place it is. Here are the options. Uhuru goes to The Hague, all hell breaks loose. It will be major panic time even for Kibaki who is already tetemekaring about The Hague. It will be chaos and we will see how Mudavadi harvests votes out of that. The other option is Uhuru cuts loose and goes underground. Then even more hell breaks loose as the country faces tough options. Again it will be chaos and we will see how Mudavadi harvests the votes out of that. Sometimes the best laid plans just get screwed up. We are here to witness all these. We are going nowhere. Good luck Muda. One more thing. I suspect there is a growing resentment from the Uhuru camp that the people who sent them to Naivasha to do the "heroic" work are not acting boldly to save them. They have tried everything to make Kibaki act including forging stuff indicating Kibaki is next and the old guy is still talking about deferral, EAC moves and other such irrelevancies. What next?
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Post by jakaswanga on May 4, 2012 19:42:57 GMT 3
kamaletThe issue here is not how good you are at out manouvering ODM on the basis of a defective law. It's a bit short sighted and ironic to keep repeating how incompetent ODM NARA negotiators were when the same ODM team was chaired by none other than Mudavad! The issue I am on about is that Musalia Mudavadi is aiming for the highest office in the land and must thus show he is made of the highest integrity standards possible. My point is that right from the start, Mudavadi strikes us as a fake. In this day and age, would Kenyans prefer a president who throws moral values out of the window, disregards gentleman agreements and trashes the rule of law? Is this not what we are trying to run away from? If Mudavadi is thinking and reasoning in similar vein as you are, then you can immediately see how much deep in sh!t the country is headed if Mudavadi happens to be elected PORK. God forbid! Its frightening to imagine another fraud like Kibaki taking over this country for another 5 years, in a new constitutional dispensation that is yet to be fully implemented. Jayadha Phil,You should stop the venom at the adress of Mudavadi! Because the knife of propaganda attacks both ways when it is sharp and wielded clumsily. [Nyuka itwomo ka oliet, to iweyo okuwe eka imadhoe].Take a slow deliberative look at this. All this negative assessment information you folks are now pouring out on MM, is not new. Neither is his psychological profile a revelation. He is the same old scum rejected by the populace in Moi's succession plan, the prince who was reduced to oblivion only to be resurrected by Raila.He rose to be a much celebrated deputy to the ODM captain, winning the last election with him and, unstated but in the books, was that he was effectively the designated heir to Raila, if all went well. So the question arises, why did Raila choose this (all those negatives you now heap upon him) man to be in a position one heart beat away from the presidency? Is it not because he deemed him competent? And ODM followed that line of logic until ... Or which evil was this game, in which 'we' we wanted to encummber Kenya with such a zero for president after Raila? this is the knife in blow back! That is if you now trash Mudavadi too much, you are trashing Raila's and ODM's earlier judgement! [be ineno kanyo omin mar omera?]-------- Personally I have stated that last time around I supported Mudavadi against Ruto, but I qualifed it was always a choice between the least rotten of two rotten fruit. And a starving man does not have much choice. [And that is the way I will look at it when it comes to Raila vs Uhuru in the run off]! But you, I have to warn you, because in your outpourings of carpet bombardment on MM, you have not bothered to explain to us how he rose to the top of ODM! [you catch?] --Or you mean you only noticed the rot yesterday when he jilted Raila?? You can not make such a swift about-turn, and develop an amnesic historical narrative! That hole needs plugging, and now you are plugging it with Raila's credibility in his judgement of political men ... unless of course he deliberately sought and went all out to have such [all those things you have called MM] a misfit for deputy, and later heir!
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Post by johns on May 4, 2012 22:07:18 GMT 3
kamaletThe issue here is not how good you are at out manouvering ODM on the basis of a defective law. It's a bit short sighted and ironic to keep repeating how incompetent ODM NARA negotiators were when the same ODM team was chaired by none other than Mudavad! The issue I am on about is that Musalia Mudavadi is aiming for the highest office in the land and must thus show he is made of the highest integrity standards possible. My point is that right from the start, Mudavadi strikes us as a fake. In this day and age, would Kenyans prefer a president who throws moral values out of the window, disregards gentleman agreements and trashes the rule of law? Is this not what we are trying to run away from? If Mudavadi is thinking and reasoning in similar vein as you are, then you can immediately see how much deep in sh!t the country is headed if Mudavadi happens to be elected PORK. God forbid! Its frightening to imagine another fraud like Kibaki taking over this country for another 5 years, in a new constitutional dispensation that is yet to be fully implemented. Jayadha Phil,You should stop the venom at the adress of Mudavadi! Because the knife of propaganda attacks both ways when it is sharp and wielded clumsily. [Nyuka itwomo ka oliet, to iweyo okuwe eka imadhoe].Take a slow deliberative look at this. All this negative assessment information you folks are now pouring out on MM, is not new. Neither is his psychological profile a revelation. He is the same old scum rejected by the populace in Moi's succession plan, the prince who was reduced to oblivion only to be resurrected by Raila.He rose to be a much celebrated deputy to the ODM captain, winning the last election with him and, unstated but in the books, was that he was effectively the designated heir to Raila, if all went well. So the question arises, why did Raila choose this (all those negatives you now heap upon him) man to be in a position one heart beat away from the presidency? Is it not because he deemed him competent? And ODM followed that line of logic until ... Or which evil was this game, in which 'we' we wanted to encummber Kenya with such a zero for president after Raila? this is the knife in blow back! That is if you now trash Mudavadi too much, you are trashing Raila's and ODM's earlier judgement! [be ineno kanyo omin mar omera?]-------- Personally I have stated that last time around I supported Mudavadi against Ruto, but I qualifed it was always a choice between the least rotten of two rotten fruit. And a starving man does not have much choice. [And that is the way I will look at it when it comes to Raila vs Uhuru in the run off]! But you, I have to warn you, because in your outpourings of carpet bombardment on MM, you have not bothered to explain to us how he rose to the top of ODM! [you catch?] --Or you mean you only noticed the rot yesterday when he jilted Raila?? You can not make such a swift about-turn, and develop an amnesic historical narrative! That hole needs plugging, and now you are plugging it with Raila's credibility in his judgement of political men ... unless of course he deliberately sought and went all out to have such [all those things you have called MM] a misfit for deputy, and later heir! Jakaswanga, In defence of @ Phil, which i am sure he will do himself in a more coherent and effective way than i shortly; let me inform you that phil, has been consistent than anybody else in this forum on matters concerning Mudavadi with his association to ODM He has always called him out all along for what he thought Mudavadi was/is .... coward with no backbone. If you search Jukwaas archives you will find @phils voice on matters where Mudavadi and ODM come together. So i think your warning to him is rather misplaced and unwarranted.
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Post by topnotch on May 4, 2012 23:16:24 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on May 5, 2012 0:14:29 GMT 3
Exactly what we thought and have said all along. Mudavadi is nothing but a Kibaki Moi puppet to help perpetuate impunity in the country. I am totally embarrassed for my good friend Kibisu Kabatesi, KK as we used to call him. Being a pimp in this dirty business, Kabetesi has lost all my respect. He is a good man but he has joined the forces of destruction in the country. We will meet in the battlefield. Mudavadi is being exposed for what he is. A complete fraud.
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Post by tnk on May 5, 2012 1:00:45 GMT 3
Exactly what we thought and have said all along. Mudavadi is nothing but a Kibaki Moi puppet to help perpetuate impunity in the country. I am totally embarrassed for my good friend Kibisu Kabatesi, KK as we used to call him. Being a pimp in this dirty business, Kabetesi has lost all my respect. He is a good man but he has joined the forces of destruction in the country. We will meet in the battlefield. Mudavadi is being exposed for what he is. A complete fraud. Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, Plan F ........ Plan Z interesting game plan by the plutarchy, i.e create numerous outfits create numerous party slogans and manifesto, stuff these with your guys throw them against the wall, something is bound to stick and then they will regroup and coalesce around whatever that stuck and re-invent themselves .... again .... meanwhile, reformists are scattered in all directions with too much ego and blinded by the illusion of "being oh so close" and yet so far. even as they are hit again and again with all sorts of negative stuff, a bribe here and there, some fallout hapa, scandal pale, dissent huko, nakadhalika. i think true reformists need to wake up from slumber, this fight has just switched to 2nd gear and is about to get real tough. the lords of impunity have regrouped, i sez.
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Post by adongo23456 on May 5, 2012 3:05:24 GMT 3
Exactly what we thought and have said all along. Mudavadi is nothing but a Kibaki Moi puppet to help perpetuate impunity in the country. I am totally embarrassed for my good friend Kibisu Kabatesi, KK as we used to call him. Being a pimp in this dirty business, Kabetesi has lost all my respect. He is a good man but he has joined the forces of destruction in the country. We will meet in the battlefield. Mudavadi is being exposed for what he is. A complete fraud. Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, Plan F ........ Plan Z interesting game plan by the oligarchy, i.e create numerous outfits create numerous party slogans and manifesto, stuff these with your guys throw them against the wall, something is bound to stick and then they will regroup and coalesce around whatever that stuck and re-invent themselves .... again .... meanwhile, reformists are scattered in all directions with too much ego and blinded by the illusion of "being oh so close" and yet so far. even as they are hit again and again with all sorts of negative stuff, a bribe here and there, some fallout hapa, scandal pale, dissent huko, nakadhalika. i think true reformists need to wake up from slumber, this fight has just switched to 2nd gear and is about to get real tough. the lords of impunity have regrouped, i sez. tnk,Good points but you have to ask yourself one question. Why are the so called owners of the country working on Plan A, B, C, D upto Z? Simple. It is because they have been pushed to a corner like rats in an alleyway facing a thousand hungry cats. That is scary. It could be a bloody mess for the rats. Before, these people ("owners of the country") never even needed plan B because plan A always worked. It was the unofficial law of the land. Moi in his 24 years of tyranny and abuse of the nation never needed plan B. You say ng'wee you are dead, in detention or jail. Why is that not possible anymore? Because even as the "owners" of the country "tawalad" the land the reformists were planting the booby traps. Now they are exploding everywhere. That is why now the rascals need ten plans none of which has any certainty of success. The ICC dilemma did not just come around. It was the product of the work of committed Kenyan patriots for a generation to build the capacity to reject, denounce and punish impunity. We haven't seen nothing yet. On the presidential pimping bisiness by Moi and Kibaki one thing strikes me as very odd. If Kibaki has joined hands with Moi to pimp Mudavadi does that mean Kibaki has abondoned Uhuru? Poor thing. OK they can offer him the alleyway route of Kabuga but I am very sure muthamaki is not very happy about that. This is a developing situation. He was supposed to be the president not an alleyway rat running for cover from the ICC and the international community. This must be disturbing to them. We will see. We are here as always. As things develop. hehehehehehehehe. Have a nice weekend.
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Post by OtishOtish on May 5, 2012 4:49:22 GMT 3
Why is that not possible anymore? Because even as the "owners" of the country "tawalad" the land the reformists were planting the booby traps. Now they are exploding everywhere. That is why now the rascals need ten plans none of which has any certainty of success. The ICC dilemma did not just come around. It was the product of the work of committed Kenyan patriots for a generation to build the capacity to reject, denounce and punish impunity. We haven't seen nothing yet. I grew up in Kenya when it was KANU, KANU-Kenyatta, and KANU-Moi, and I could not have imagined that KANU and Kenya would be where they are today. The country certainly owes a great debt to all those true patriots who helped get us where we are today, by paying with blood, sweat, and tears, and then some. I believe people like you, Oloo, and others on Jukwaa are among them.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 5, 2012 7:36:35 GMT 3
Adongo,
If the feelers on the ground are anything to go by, then Mudavadi could as well have actually crossed the rubicon.
Kabatesi is putting his money on the right horse. He has no time for these other conmen. Look at how they have eaten all our money. Maize, oil, kazi kwa vijana and now NHIF, surely, why would you want your friend Kabatesi to keep such company?
These guys belong to where KANU is today, and thats where they are headed.
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Post by phil on May 5, 2012 10:50:23 GMT 3
jakaswanga You must be new to Jukwaa. As runners up in the 2007 ODM primaries, Raila nominated Mudavadi as vice captain and the fellow was elected as ODM Deputy Leader on that basis. Since when did stating facts become propaganda? Have you watched that NTV clip? It is Mudavadi himself talking, not yours trully. Like johns is telling you, I have consistently called out the colourless Mudavadi as the biggest liability to the development of ODM as a political party. In my view, there are other people in ODM who would have done better as deputy party leaders than MM. Sadly, that list includes people like Ruto. As it is, I have been consistent in stating that Mudavadi was not the best running mate for Raila Odinga should the latter emerge the ODM candidate. In politics you can not afford to be sentimental. After becoming accustomed to receiving free rides in the party, this time around, Mudavadi knew there was no way Raila would make him running mate and he opted to bolt out rather than face competition within the party. This is someone who failed to deliver the Ikolomani parliamentary seat to ODM, including some civic seats within Vihiga county that were taken over by other parties. How will he win these seats for UDF? You note that most of the people who are urging him on belong to other parties, like FORD-K and New FORD-K. It is easy to predict what will happen come the elections and MM is too short sighted to see this. Perhaps he is blinded by the $$$ that landed in his bank account. jakaswanga, why not question Mudavadi's dishonesty and violation of the law instead accuse me of peddling propaganda?
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Post by jakaswanga on May 5, 2012 12:12:31 GMT 3
You must be new to Jukwaa. Did not go through all the archives yes! But on the other hand, I miss your celebrations at MM's defection! Your posts should be full of FREE AT LAST OF THE SPOILER! giving us insights as to why your party will now be hotter without him, rather than keeping on kicking his teeth on even as he is already enjoying himsef in a new nest! Makes you come across as a bereaved, jilted spouse, the type some lady refered to here on Jukwaa as psychologically traumatized at her loss! --the fury hell hathn't! As runners up in the 2007 ODM primaries, Raila nominated Mudavadi as vice captain and the fellow was elected as ODM Deputy Leader on that basis. And on this basis he has always been a potential president in ODM's eyes. By this logic then, he should still be a potential president in someone elses bandwagon! UDF or KANU. Quitting ODM does not in effect make him any lesser presidential material. I tell you the presidency of Kenya is a dane of the imbeciles. Since when did stating facts become propaganda? Have you watched that NTV clip? It is Mudavadi himself talking, not yours trully. Agreed. stating facts is not propaganda as such. But you know you have a vehemence against him, such that the emotive force with which you castigate him with those 'facts' thouroughly do alter the purpose of the argument... into a fanfare of bashing. Like johns is telling you, I have consistently called out the colourless Mudavadi as the biggest liability to the development of ODM as a political party. In my view, there are other people in ODM who would have done better as deputy party leaders than MM. Sadly, that list includes people like Ruto. Yap, when it comes to political aptitude I too would rate Ruto higher than MM. Perhaps it was the solidity of ethnic math [which I think of as myth] that made MM's position be beyond contest??? As it is, I have been consistent in stating that Mudavadi was not the best running mate for Raila Odinga should the latter emerge the ODM candidate. I will believe you! otherwise I will have to spend the weekend unearthing stuff from the long-term memory of Jukwaa, an archive of Trigabits of storage space! In politics you can not afford to be sentimental. After becoming accustomed to receiving free rides in the party, this time around, Mudavadi knew there was no way Raila would make him running mate and he opted to bolt out rather than face competition within the party. Then it was a move he had to make! bolt and have a chance elsewhere, or stay and be doomed for sure! This is someone who failed to deliver the Ikolomani parliamentary seat to ODM, including some civic seats within Vihiga county that were taken over by other parties. How will he win these seats for UDF? You note that most of the people who are urging him on belong to other parties, like FORD-K and New FORD-K. It is easy to predict what will happen come the elections and MM is too short sighted to see this. Perhaps he is blinded by the $$$ that landed in his bank account. Perhaps, like I said before on another thread, Musalia is ensuring his pension. Selling himself expensively when his market price is still inflated. That he knows he is too fake, too weakly to make headway in the forest of political top predators, and can as well sell before the bubble bursts. jakaswanga, why not question Mudavadi's dishonesty and violation of the law instead accuse me of peddling propaganda? Phil, I wont accept you denials of my postulation that you are in the business of propaganda! Actually I want you to be a better propagandist, that is why I was warning you! I am looking forward, salivating at the prospect of intertaining myself at the sight of master propagandists selling rotten political] wares! Rot selling rot would be a dead end [this is where I place Uhuru's man! ] Now, I was about to post a 'quarrel' with my Dear Martha, the one politician I think has the brains to understand and argue some of these niceties. I have trashed MM enough ,until I found it more useful to interrogate his chief advisor, Kabisu Kabatesi, who unfortunately has left me with a trauma, after I read and saw the resignation speech. He reminded me of Prof Githu, the AG, explaining why UK and Muthaura could not resign, and later, why UK could keep the DPM's post. Since then, I have reached the traumatic conclusion that one can have brains, like Kabatesi and Githu, but having them and putting them to use are too different things! It is therefore a customed and high-brow intertainment to see brainy Africans being utter morons in public service, and sad that this is the way they can make much money. Thinking will leave them poor. Let me see if Karua is different. [going to post the rest there now]
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