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Subject: Oloo Responds to Miguna on Ngugi(Second Attempt)
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, August 21, 2004 5:57 pm
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]

The first version was cut off for some reason:



Miguna Miguna:

I have just read your rather shocking email. I say shocking because you
are among the last people I would have expected this latest verbal assault
on the Ngugis to emanate from.

I will limit myself to the contents of your email.

Let us go through your questions:

You Say:
>
> 1. First, does it not seem rather odd that the "rape" claim was made as
> afterthought from the Ngugis? Why, for example, did he and his doctors
> release information about an attempted rape earlier? Have they
convincingly explained why? Have we been given a comprehensive
explanation on the attack;how, when and who (description) perpetrated it?
Ngugi promised to do this but has not up to now.

Oloo Says:

No. There is nothing ODD because what you are saying is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
Actually the very first account, and I am sure you saw you it because I
circulated it on this email list appeared on the very same day that the
attacks took place. It was a posting from Nairobi from a Kenyan netter who
is either a journalist or has a very close connection to the dailies to
the extent of unleashing breaking stories ahead of the publication times:


Let me reproduce it here again, just in case you missed it:


"from "Dee Dee" in Mashada:

#53653, "The final story..."
"In response to In response to 4

“Of late i have been speaking Rape too much, but now Police are saying
this is Mungiki, two issues emerge, was there forced Circumcision? ama
rape?

“According to Doctors they cant confirm lakini she is under the watch of
Frank Njenga and a gyno. they are being treated mainly for psychological
trauma....

“Anyway, here is the final story...

“KENYAN NOVELIST ATTACKED BY MUNGIKI MEN"

“KENYA’S foremost novelist Ngugi wa Thiong’o and his wife Njeeri were on
Wednesday night severely injured following an attack by four armed
gangsters at Norfolk towers in the Nairobi.

“As a result the couple, spent the whole of yesterday admitted in Nairobi
hospital, where they were transferred after a short stint at Kenyatta
National hospital where police rushed them shortly after the attack.

“At Nairobi hospital, President Mwai Kibaki’s personal doctor Dan Gikonyo
led a high-powered medical team in handling the case. The team includes
renowned psychiatrist – Frank Njenga who is handling the, “major
psychological and emotional trauma of the patients.”

“The gangsters struck at the stroke of midnight when Ngugi- home for a
month, after a 22 year old self exile in the United States of America, was
escorting Kiragu Chege after a chat in their upstairs room rented for the
literally icon by East African Publishers.

“Police and medical authorities confirmed the incident with the police
blaming the attack to the outlawed Mungiki.

“However, there were contradicting reports on how the four gangsters
wielding two guns, a machete and a huge wire cutter and other crude
weapons gained access to the apartments with two different versions
emerging on the night drama.
According to the police the gangsters cut off a wire enclosure forming
part of the fence surrounding the apartments to gain entry to the rented
room where Ngugi has been staying.

“Ngugi who had jetted back to the country only eight hours earlier after
delivering a speech at Makerere University on The Role of African
Universities said in a statement read on his behalf by his publisher
Barrack Muluka that at 7.30 pm when they arrived at the guest apartments
he spotted a suspicious car in the apartments compound.

“Narrated Ngugi; “at about 7:30pm I spotted people in a car outside the
apartment, who on hearing me shout for Kiragu Chege, one of the organizers
of my visit, quickly left the premises in a car towards the gate of the
apartments.”

“A taxi driver who has been serving the couple for the last two weeks they
have been in the country speaking on condition of anonymity however
explained that the four thugs first booked themselves into the one day
rooms section, from where they staged they organized their attack, struck
before fleeing with their car that was around the area since 3pm.

“Nairobi Provincial Police Officer Mwangi King’ori explained that the men
ambushed the scholar as he opened the door to escort Chege and demanded to
know whether he was sympathizer of the proscribed Mungiki sect.

“He said Ngugi sustained facial injuries that were inflicted by a pistol
and a burning cigarette butt while his wife was injured on the right arm
and face. Ngugi’s two children were not with their parents during the
attack. They were said to have traveled upcountry.

“He said a guard who was on duty during the raid is being held. According
to the police boss, a security guard accompanied by his back-up dog saw
the thugs but failed to act. He said police are still figuring out why the
dog didn’t bark due to the muzzle on its mouth.

“Ngugi on his part had appealed to Kenyans through Dr. Frank Njenga, to
let him “heal in private” and to the media he requested, “Keep my children
out of this.”

“Appealed Ngugi, “we understand the anxiety and concern Kenyans have and
we appreciate it in the same vein we request that the media practices
responsible journalism and uphold the value of information while allowing
us to recover silently.”

"Dr. Gikonyo ruled the couple out of danger saying they had no life
threatening injuries inflicted on them, but maintained his analysis was on
the physical point of view.

"Asked if the novelist’s wife was raped during the one-hour ordeal Gikonyo
could not confirm or deny the issue only saying, “ a gynecologist is on
board and will be assisting the medical team”.

“However Ngugi in his statement alluded to the issue saying, “During the
whole ordeal they did all sort of acts of humiliation including burning my
face with cigarettes, and finally tried to rape my wife.”

“The thugs took from the couple a laptop computer, US$ 450, 200 South
African rands, undisclosed amount of local currency and Ngugi’s wedding
ring.
Ngugi returned to the country less than two weeks ago to a tumultuous
welcome after spending 22 years in self-exile in Britain. He fled in June
1982 following fears that the former Kanu government could detain him over
his severe criticism of its oppressive rule.

“Since his return, the author has been engaged in numerous social
activities to commemorate his comeback. East Africa Education Publishers
Barrack Muluka who was in charge of the activities said similar events
that were to be marked this week have been put on hold.”
ENDS"

So the question of rape was there from the beginning. If anything, it was
the MEDIA which DOWNPLAYED the trauma of the rape incident and when the
Ngugis clarified this in the media, they were setting the record straight.

Miguna, you are my friend but I want to ask you something:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND???

I mean, do you seriously believe that Ngugi and Njeeri would add graphic
details of Njeeri being brutally attacked as an “afterthought”? And
afterthought of what, and for what reasons? Clearly far from trying to
hog the media limelight, the very first statement from the couple was
their request to the media to be left alone so that “they could recover
in silence” and specifically asked that their children should be shielded
from any sensationalism. Miguna, you have met Ngugi on more than one
occasion. You will agree with me that the man is quiet and reserved.

And talking of attention, do you seriously think that someone of Ngugi’s
profile SO DESPERATELY CRAVES PUBLICITY that he WOULD STAGE a fake
robbery with his wife chiming in with a FAKE RAPE SCENE?

How insensitive can you get?

There were journalists and police officers, not necessarily sympathetic to
Ngugi who were on hand to confirm that these attacks did indeed take
place.

Why are you finding it difficult that Ngugi could have been robbed and
tortured and his wife raped?

You further ask:
>
> 2. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis would immediately exculpate
> the Kibaki govt and praise the country for being "safe" for both foreign
> investment and tourists - and do so without any evidence whatsoever?
>

And Oloo says:

I think what Ngugi did was not only the RIGHT thing to do, but further,
the PATRIOTIC thing to do. A couple of years ago, the British journalist
Robert Fisk who writes for the Independent (and is very critical of US
foreign policy) was attacked by a bunch of Afghanis. Instead of doing the
usual Western fulminations against insecurity, he actually sat down and
wrote down the incident explaining why it was perfectly understandable
why he was targeted by his attackers. Likewise what I read in that
statement was an affirmation that Ngugi was first and foremost a Kenyan
who would NOT FEED INTO THE FEAR MONGERING that has led countries to
IMPOSE travel advisories on Kenya at times when no such advisories were
warranted. Ngugi was essentially saying that what befell them was not
“normal” but a daily occupational hazard that has not stopped millions of
Kenyans from waking up everyday and going about their business. There are
no sinister motives lurking anywhere- at least to my mind.


Miguna Says:

> 3. Did it not look odd that rather than do the responsible thing of
> undergoing further & through medical checks (including for the dreadful
> HIV/Aids) and taking time off to "recover" from the "horrors of the
> attack;" the Ngugis chose to go on with the so-called country tour?
>

Oloo Says:

Why are you ignoring press reports and PICTURES which shows Ngugi and
Njeeri in HOSPITAL UNDERGOING TREATMENT Bwana Miguna? Why are you
ignoring this portion of that initial statement:

“Appealed Ngugi, “we understand the anxiety and concern Kenyans have and
we appreciate it in the same vein we request that the media practices
responsible journalism and uphold the value of information while allowing
us to recover silently.” Dr. Gikonyo ruled the couple out of danger saying
they had no life threatening injuries inflicted on them, but maintained
his analysis was on the physical point of view. Asked if the novelist’s
wife was raped during the one-hour ordeal Gikonyo could not confirm or
deny the issue only saying, “ a gynecologist is on board and will be
assisting the medical team”.

Part of the recovery process from trauma I would venture to suggest Bwana
Miguna Miguna, is to CONFRONT head on what happened to you. Njeeri called
a press conference where she was very candid about what happened. What
she was relaying was very painful and there are pictures that I posted on
the Kenya Democracy Project blog showing her crying and Ngugi comforting
her. As one of Kenya’s leading political activists, IT WOULD HAVE
SIGNALLED CERTAIN DEFEAT HAD NGUGI SUCCUMBED TO THE TERRORIST
INTIMIDATION OF HIS ATTACKERS. We all know that sometimes it take a life
time to recover completely from such trauma, so I am pretty sure that they
have a rocky road in front of them. Do not forget that Njeeri wa Ngugi
works in the Counselling Centre at Irvine University and is thereore
familiar with the kind of support systems that she can draw on. By Ngugi
telling his story to us, we got drawn into the recovery effort.

Miguna Says:

> 4. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis sought and obtained, through
> this announcement state security, publicity, sympathy and notoreity
which he had not been granted before?

Oloo Responds:

This is one of the MOST CALLOUS THINGS I have heard you say, or seen
you write since I first met you- and I have known you for 15 years.

Are you trying to say that prior to the assault Ngugi DID NOT have
sympathy or publicity? Who were those thousands thronging at the airport
to greet him? Goats? Cats? Impalas?Ostriches? Is Ngugi an OBSCURE person
in Kenya and around the world? Talking of what you call “notoriety”, I
thought he EARNED that years ago- what his detention did not accomplish
in 1977, the razing of Kamirithu in 1980, the demonization by the likes
of Moi, Kalonzo Musyoka, William Ochieng and Hilary Ngweno accomplished in
the 1980s to be capped by his ties to Mwakenya in the late 1980s and
early 1990s. Ngugi did not need to STAGE a PUBLICITY STUNT to, as you
so blithely put it, “obtain” “ state security, publicity, sympathy and
notoriety which he had (allegedly) not been granted before”. If you will
recall, it was RAILA ODINGA and KIRAITU MURUNGI who showed up and
APOLOGIZED for not providing state security. When Ngugi arrived in the
country, he went about his business as a private citizen and did not
request state security because HE DID NOT ANTICIPATE HE WOULD NEED IT.
>

Miguna Says:

> 5. Does it not seem rather odd that Ngugis has refused to comment on the
critical issues in Kenya - ongoing grand corruption/plunder and
> dictatorship, including the Kibaki govt's refusal to give Kenyans a new
> democratic & popular constitution?

This is a POLITICAL CRITIQUE that can be separated from your skepticism
about the widely reported attack against them. But just for the record,
here is the view I expressed on the day Ngugi arrived back in the
country:

“Coming back home one has the frozen mental Polaroid of the last snapshot
the mind took before it sped off towards years of uncertain exile. Often
of course, that withered snapshot has little or no semblance with the
unvarnished reality that has seeped to the surface in the intervening
years…When, in addition, you happen to be a Ngugi wa Thiong’o, you have a
further burden discharging all these burdens, slightly lighter than the
one that fell of Mandela’s shoulders when he walked out of Pollsmoor that
February close to fifteen years ago; the burden of expectations is
something that one has to decide immediately to unload or carry; in my
opinion, there is no obligation for Ngugi to live up to the often
unrealistic expectations of starry eyed, newly found acolytes who would
make of him a twenty-first century Mugo wa Kibiru with a weight of a
nation’s future aspirations to discharge. Ngugi should shun any messianic
role thrust on him by the founding members of any potential millenarian
personality based cults that would abuse his stature for parochial and
esoteric purposes…”

Miguna Says:
>
> I have discussed some of these questions with some physicians and they
are of the opinion that the Ngugis' behaviour after the so-called
"attack" does not make any medical sense. The physicians cannot
understand how any competent medical doctor (whom the Ngugis had) could
have recommended or approved the so-called press conference and public
country tour of the alleged rape victim. Kenyans might have been taken
to the garden path on this one. And because of our fear of looking
unsympathetic with our"national hero" and his wife's ordeal, we might
have just been conned.


Exactly WHAT does NOT make sense? Will these same physicians make any
sense of the Palestinians and Iraqis who have to continue living their
lives amidst daily bombardments. Miguna you know the name of this person
so I will not mention it here- but you are familiar with the ordeal a
certain Kenyan woman underwent in January 1998 when she was almost
sexually assaulted and her place vandalized. Yet within days, she was back in business, even though SHE IS STILL dealing with the trauma today. You yourself almost lost your life in a serious road crash and yet you were back in your office soon after that. So what are you talking
about? Going back to the Kenyan woman in Toronto, I recall that what was even more traumatizing for her was the insinuation that she could stage
a sexual assault on herself and single handedly trash an establishment she had sunk tens of thousands of dollars in.

> Miguna Says:
> Exactly why are we believing Ngugi and his wife? Just because they said so? Where is the medical evidence and opinion? Have you actually heard or read the medical doctors speak? Have they actually confirmed this
allegation?

This left me almost speechless. It is NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAID SO
MIGUNA. It is because it is TRUE and ACTUALLY HAPPENED. With all DUE
RESPECT Miguna, this is about human lives, not some academic debate. Yes,I DID READ FROM THE DOCTORS- they WERE THE FIRST ONES TO SPEAK! Miguna do you want to CONDUCT A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF NJEERI WA NGUGI to confirm if she was IN FACT VIOLATED? What you are saying is EQUIVALENT to a SECOND SEXUAL ASSAULT and LET ME THE FIRST TO TELL YOU. I can NOT believe that you would be THIS INDIFFERENT. And Miguna you know I am saying this with a LOT OF ANGER because not too LONG AGO, because I believed YOU rather than SOME OUTLANDISH CLAIMS that I am NOT GOING INTO HERE, I endured MONTHS of defamation when my name, that of my son, some of the women in my life were DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD by people who were DOING THE KIND OF TRASH TALKING that you are engaging in now.

Miguna:

Right now, I am very upset. As you know for me, these issues are
intensely personal. Everytime I hear of another Kenyan woman being
assaulted, I am thinking of my sister who was sent to her grave by her
abusive husband; I think of the women in Toronto who had to flee from
abusive situations when no one believed them and I see the statistics of
rape and sexual violence affecting Kenyan women.

Do me a favour if you do not mind. Please do NOT communicate with me for
about two weeks.

Perhaps after that I will be able to talk to you calmly.

Onyango Oloo
Montreal



Subject: Questions on the Ngugis' Claims that deserve answers
From: "miguna miguna"
Date: Sat, August 21, 2004 1:31 pm
To: [e-mail]


Bwana Onyango:

I've read the two pieces and agree with you more than with Mundia. [Feel free to post my comments for your wider readers because I am prepared to defend my analysis.]

However, completely unrelated to your pieces are some questions about the so-called Ngugis' ordeals that have been bothering me. By no means am I claiming that the Ngugis have lied about their allegations. However, these questions deserve to be asked and answered.

1. First, does it not seem rather odd that the "rape" claim was made as afterthought from the Ngugis? Why, for example, did he and his doctors release information about an attempted rape earlier? Have they convincingly explained why? Have we been given a comprehensive explanation on the attack;how, when and who (description) perpetrated it? Ngugi promised to do this but has not up to now.

2. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis would immediately exculpate the Kibaki govt and praise the country for being "safe" for both foreign investment and tourists - and do so without any evidence whatsoever?

3. Did it not look odd that rather than do the responsible thing of undergoing further & through medical checks (including for the dreadful HIV/Aids) and taking time off to "recover" from the "horrors of the attack;"the Ngugis chose to go on with the so-called country tour?

4. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis sought and obtained, through this announcement state security, publicity, sympathy and notoreity which he had not been granted before?

5. Does it not seem rather odd that Ngugis has refused to comment on the critical issues in Kenya - ongoing grand corruption/plunder and dictatorship, including the Kibaki govt's refusal to give Kenyans a new democratic & popular constitution?

I have discussed some of these questions with some physicians and they are of the opinion that the Ngugis' behaviour after the so-called "attack" doesnot make any medical sense. The physicians cannot understand how any competent medical doctor (whom the Ngugis had) could have recommended or approved the so-called press conference and public country tour of the alleged rape victim. Kenyans might have been taken to the garden path on this one. And because of our fear of looking unsympathetic with our
"national hero" and his wife's ordeal, we might have just been conned.

Exactly why are we believing Ngugi and his wife? Just because they said so?
Where is the medical evidence and opinion? Have you actually heard or read
the medical doctors speak? Have they actually confirmed this allegation? If
not, why? If they have, where did they do so, when and how?

Those are my two cents.



MIGUNA MIGUNA
Barrister, Solicitor & Mediator/ADR Consultant
North York Square
45 Sheppard Avenue East, Suite 410
Toronto, Ontario
CANADA M2N 5W9
[e-mail]
Tel: 1+416-512-7999
Fax: 1+416-512-6750


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[jakaswanga]

Jul 16, 2012 4:25:27 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

Jakaswanga,

This is in response to your challenge that someone should give you an example of when Miguna has accepted a bribe. That thread was closed down by the mighty OO before I could respond or before I read your challenge.

Before you make your conclusions about my affiliations, let me cut the chase- I don't care very much about RAO or MM.

MM has claimed that he has never taken a bribe. Sometimes in 2007, MM was running for office in his native constituency. He was defeated/rigged out (depending on who you listen to) by a current sitting MP who he has described as lackluster. Fast forward 2008, Miguna Miguna started crying, a fact well documented here in Jukwaa, how RAO had forgotten people who had fought for him and had not given them jobs.

Sometimes in 1998, Miguna Miguna a politician who had lost at the primaries (to be fair Kivutha Kibwana , Rapho Tuju and others on the PNU side) were appointed to senior positions in government. I would have expected, someone as ethical as MM to have,

1. Not canvassed for a government position especially after losing an election
2. Turned down any such appointment on ethical/principles ground

Now to the ordinary folks, the fact that he canvassed for and accepted the job in the PM's office may not be construed as corruption- but to you Jakaswanga, a sophisticated ex-teacher now lorry (is it pickup)driver lyrical smart arse- I expect you to see what this was- corruption.
Senti 5

Hmmmm, Patriotism Okekanegi, I verily should put you in good cheer, seeing I am minded to rummage my bowels and indulge you with a fat burst off my lyrically endowed smart-arse! But for shallow-lunged and kid-minded brother E, I beg you furnish a gas-mask, lest he suffocate on us. Perhaps your conscience can live with him as collateral damage; I can't, --thinking of the piteous sorrow that would unhinge his mum who cherishes him so! her Golden Boy!

Now those examples you gave of Janyando's lapses are thin. Sophistication entails one understands the nature of prerogatives that go with political appointments. The patronage leeway. The political kitchen staff not competitively advertised but paid for by the taxpayer. I got to be splitting god's particle for these your examples to register. Give me something carolistic!

Miguna throwing tantrums and crying around the blogosphere with mucus dripping from his fat cheeks just shows how badly he needed a political position. If it was money he was crying for, then he could not have resisted the loaded corrupt deals at the OPM's. This is a good distinction to make.

(But I will stand corrected when evidence is unearthed that he is Karol's twin!)

PS: ON lorries or P-Us: Tired of my testicles being smashed on the inner roads of Nyanza and lower Rift-Valley as I flew over the wretched bumps at break-neck, I decided to try my luck in areas where road-engineering is an art, so last week I revved gas all the way from Kiev to Charlerois in Belgium. (Euro 2012 heavy stuff that could not be sold in the East and had to come back home.) Yeah, on a Monster Truck like you see on those American motorways, even a German highway patrol on a porsche could not catch me until I ran out of gas! ---But that is another story! Be warned: don't mess with the gestapo even if you have diplomatic pass!)

[reporter911]

Jul 16, 2012 13:41:56 GMT 3 nowayhaha said:

FYI

Subject: Oloo Responds to Miguna on Ngugi(Second Attempt)
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sat, August 21, 2004 5:57 pm
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]

The first version was cut off for some reason:



Miguna Miguna:

I have just read your rather shocking email. I say shocking because you
are among the last people I would have expected this latest verbal assault
on the Ngugis to emanate from.

I will limit myself to the contents of your email.

Let us go through your questions:

You Say:
>
> 1. First, does it not seem rather odd that the "rape" claim was made as
> afterthought from the Ngugis? Why, for example, did he and his doctors
> release information about an attempted rape earlier? Have they
convincingly explained why? Have we been given a comprehensive
explanation on the attack;how, when and who (description) perpetrated it?
Ngugi promised to do this but has not up to now.

Oloo Says:

No. There is nothing ODD because what you are saying is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
Actually the very first account, and I am sure you saw you it because I
circulated it on this email list appeared on the very same day that the
attacks took place. It was a posting from Nairobi from a Kenyan netter who
is either a journalist or has a very close connection to the dailies to
the extent of unleashing breaking stories ahead of the publication times:


Let me reproduce it here again, just in case you missed it:


"from "Dee Dee" in Mashada:

#53653, "The final story..."
"In response to In response to 4

“Of late i have been speaking Rape too much, but now Police are saying
this is Mungiki, two issues emerge, was there forced Circumcision? ama
rape?

“According to Doctors they cant confirm lakini she is under the watch of
Frank Njenga and a gyno. they are being treated mainly for psychological
trauma....

“Anyway, here is the final story...

“KENYAN NOVELIST ATTACKED BY MUNGIKI MEN"

“KENYA’S foremost novelist Ngugi wa Thiong’o and his wife Njeeri were on
Wednesday night severely injured following an attack by four armed
gangsters at Norfolk towers in the Nairobi.

“As a result the couple, spent the whole of yesterday admitted in Nairobi
hospital, where they were transferred after a short stint at Kenyatta
National hospital where police rushed them shortly after the attack.

“At Nairobi hospital, President Mwai Kibaki’s personal doctor Dan Gikonyo
led a high-powered medical team in handling the case. The team includes
renowned psychiatrist – Frank Njenga who is handling the, “major
psychological and emotional trauma of the patients.”

“The gangsters struck at the stroke of midnight when Ngugi- home for a
month, after a 22 year old self exile in the United States of America, was
escorting Kiragu Chege after a chat in their upstairs room rented for the
literally icon by East African Publishers.

“Police and medical authorities confirmed the incident with the police
blaming the attack to the outlawed Mungiki.

“However, there were contradicting reports on how the four gangsters
wielding two guns, a machete and a huge wire cutter and other crude
weapons gained access to the apartments with two different versions
emerging on the night drama.
According to the police the gangsters cut off a wire enclosure forming
part of the fence surrounding the apartments to gain entry to the rented
room where Ngugi has been staying.

“Ngugi who had jetted back to the country only eight hours earlier after
delivering a speech at Makerere University on The Role of African
Universities said in a statement read on his behalf by his publisher
Barrack Muluka that at 7.30 pm when they arrived at the guest apartments
he spotted a suspicious car in the apartments compound.

“Narrated Ngugi; “at about 7:30pm I spotted people in a car outside the
apartment, who on hearing me shout for Kiragu Chege, one of the organizers
of my visit, quickly left the premises in a car towards the gate of the
apartments.”

“A taxi driver who has been serving the couple for the last two weeks they
have been in the country speaking on condition of anonymity however
explained that the four thugs first booked themselves into the one day
rooms section, from where they staged they organized their attack, struck
before fleeing with their car that was around the area since 3pm.

“Nairobi Provincial Police Officer Mwangi King’ori explained that the men
ambushed the scholar as he opened the door to escort Chege and demanded to
know whether he was sympathizer of the proscribed Mungiki sect.

“He said Ngugi sustained facial injuries that were inflicted by a pistol
and a burning cigarette butt while his wife was injured on the right arm
and face. Ngugi’s two children were not with their parents during the
attack. They were said to have traveled upcountry.

“He said a guard who was on duty during the raid is being held. According
to the police boss, a security guard accompanied by his back-up dog saw
the thugs but failed to act. He said police are still figuring out why the
dog didn’t bark due to the muzzle on its mouth.

“Ngugi on his part had appealed to Kenyans through Dr. Frank Njenga, to
let him “heal in private” and to the media he requested, “Keep my children
out of this.”

“Appealed Ngugi, “we understand the anxiety and concern Kenyans have and
we appreciate it in the same vein we request that the media practices
responsible journalism and uphold the value of information while allowing
us to recover silently.”

"Dr. Gikonyo ruled the couple out of danger saying they had no life
threatening injuries inflicted on them, but maintained his analysis was on
the physical point of view.

"Asked if the novelist’s wife was raped during the one-hour ordeal Gikonyo
could not confirm or deny the issue only saying, “ a gynecologist is on
board and will be assisting the medical team”.

“However Ngugi in his statement alluded to the issue saying, “During the
whole ordeal they did all sort of acts of humiliation including burning my
face with cigarettes, and finally tried to rape my wife.”

“The thugs took from the couple a laptop computer, US$ 450, 200 South
African rands, undisclosed amount of local currency and Ngugi’s wedding
ring.
Ngugi returned to the country less than two weeks ago to a tumultuous
welcome after spending 22 years in self-exile in Britain. He fled in June
1982 following fears that the former Kanu government could detain him over
his severe criticism of its oppressive rule.

“Since his return, the author has been engaged in numerous social
activities to commemorate his comeback. East Africa Education Publishers
Barrack Muluka who was in charge of the activities said similar events
that were to be marked this week have been put on hold.”
ENDS"

So the question of rape was there from the beginning. If anything, it was
the MEDIA which DOWNPLAYED the trauma of the rape incident and when the
Ngugis clarified this in the media, they were setting the record straight.

Miguna, you are my friend but I want to ask you something:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND???

I mean, do you seriously believe that Ngugi and Njeeri would add graphic
details of Njeeri being brutally attacked as an “afterthought”? And
afterthought of what, and for what reasons? Clearly far from trying to
hog the media limelight, the very first statement from the couple was
their request to the media to be left alone so that “they could recover
in silence” and specifically asked that their children should be shielded
from any sensationalism. Miguna, you have met Ngugi on more than one
occasion. You will agree with me that the man is quiet and reserved.

And talking of attention, do you seriously think that someone of Ngugi’s
profile SO DESPERATELY CRAVES PUBLICITY that he WOULD STAGE a fake
robbery with his wife chiming in with a FAKE RAPE SCENE?

How insensitive can you get?

There were journalists and police officers, not necessarily sympathetic to
Ngugi who were on hand to confirm that these attacks did indeed take
place.

Why are you finding it difficult that Ngugi could have been robbed and
tortured and his wife raped?

You further ask:
>
> 2. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis would immediately exculpate
> the Kibaki govt and praise the country for being "safe" for both foreign
> investment and tourists - and do so without any evidence whatsoever?
>

And Oloo says:

I think what Ngugi did was not only the RIGHT thing to do, but further,
the PATRIOTIC thing to do. A couple of years ago, the British journalist
Robert Fisk who writes for the Independent (and is very critical of US
foreign policy) was attacked by a bunch of Afghanis. Instead of doing the
usual Western fulminations against insecurity, he actually sat down and
wrote down the incident explaining why it was perfectly understandable
why he was targeted by his attackers. Likewise what I read in that
statement was an affirmation that Ngugi was first and foremost a Kenyan
who would NOT FEED INTO THE FEAR MONGERING that has led countries to
IMPOSE travel advisories on Kenya at times when no such advisories were
warranted. Ngugi was essentially saying that what befell them was not
“normal” but a daily occupational hazard that has not stopped millions of
Kenyans from waking up everyday and going about their business. There are
no sinister motives lurking anywhere- at least to my mind.


Miguna Says:

> 3. Did it not look odd that rather than do the responsible thing of
> undergoing further & through medical checks (including for the dreadful
> HIV/Aids) and taking time off to "recover" from the "horrors of the
> attack;" the Ngugis chose to go on with the so-called country tour?
>

Oloo Says:

Why are you ignoring press reports and PICTURES which shows Ngugi and
Njeeri in HOSPITAL UNDERGOING TREATMENT Bwana Miguna? Why are you
ignoring this portion of that initial statement:

“Appealed Ngugi, “we understand the anxiety and concern Kenyans have and
we appreciate it in the same vein we request that the media practices
responsible journalism and uphold the value of information while allowing
us to recover silently.” Dr. Gikonyo ruled the couple out of danger saying
they had no life threatening injuries inflicted on them, but maintained
his analysis was on the physical point of view. Asked if the novelist’s
wife was raped during the one-hour ordeal Gikonyo could not confirm or
deny the issue only saying, “ a gynecologist is on board and will be
assisting the medical team”.

Part of the recovery process from trauma I would venture to suggest Bwana
Miguna Miguna, is to CONFRONT head on what happened to you. Njeeri called
a press conference where she was very candid about what happened. What
she was relaying was very painful and there are pictures that I posted on
the Kenya Democracy Project blog showing her crying and Ngugi comforting
her. As one of Kenya’s leading political activists, IT WOULD HAVE
SIGNALLED CERTAIN DEFEAT HAD NGUGI SUCCUMBED TO THE TERRORIST
INTIMIDATION OF HIS ATTACKERS. We all know that sometimes it take a life
time to recover completely from such trauma, so I am pretty sure that they
have a rocky road in front of them. Do not forget that Njeeri wa Ngugi
works in the Counselling Centre at Irvine University and is thereore
familiar with the kind of support systems that she can draw on. By Ngugi
telling his story to us, we got drawn into the recovery effort.

Miguna Says:

> 4. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis sought and obtained, through
> this announcement state security, publicity, sympathy and notoreity
which he had not been granted before?

Oloo Responds:

This is one of the MOST CALLOUS THINGS I have heard you say, or seen
you write since I first met you- and I have known you for 15 years.

Are you trying to say that prior to the assault Ngugi DID NOT have
sympathy or publicity? Who were those thousands thronging at the airport
to greet him? Goats? Cats? Impalas?Ostriches? Is Ngugi an OBSCURE person
in Kenya and around the world? Talking of what you call “notoriety”, I
thought he EARNED that years ago- what his detention did not accomplish
in 1977, the razing of Kamirithu in 1980, the demonization by the likes
of Moi, Kalonzo Musyoka, William Ochieng and Hilary Ngweno accomplished in
the 1980s to be capped by his ties to Mwakenya in the late 1980s and
early 1990s. Ngugi did not need to STAGE a PUBLICITY STUNT to, as you
so blithely put it, “obtain” “ state security, publicity, sympathy and
notoriety which he had (allegedly) not been granted before”. If you will
recall, it was RAILA ODINGA and KIRAITU MURUNGI who showed up and
APOLOGIZED for not providing state security. When Ngugi arrived in the
country, he went about his business as a private citizen and did not
request state security because HE DID NOT ANTICIPATE HE WOULD NEED IT.
>

Miguna Says:

> 5. Does it not seem rather odd that Ngugis has refused to comment on the
critical issues in Kenya - ongoing grand corruption/plunder and
> dictatorship, including the Kibaki govt's refusal to give Kenyans a new
> democratic & popular constitution?

This is a POLITICAL CRITIQUE that can be separated from your skepticism
about the widely reported attack against them. But just for the record,
here is the view I expressed on the day Ngugi arrived back in the
country:

“Coming back home one has the frozen mental Polaroid of the last snapshot
the mind took before it sped off towards years of uncertain exile. Often
of course, that withered snapshot has little or no semblance with the
unvarnished reality that has seeped to the surface in the intervening
years…When, in addition, you happen to be a Ngugi wa Thiong’o, you have a
further burden discharging all these burdens, slightly lighter than the
one that fell of Mandela’s shoulders when he walked out of Pollsmoor that
February close to fifteen years ago; the burden of expectations is
something that one has to decide immediately to unload or carry; in my
opinion, there is no obligation for Ngugi to live up to the often
unrealistic expectations of starry eyed, newly found acolytes who would
make of him a twenty-first century Mugo wa Kibiru with a weight of a
nation’s future aspirations to discharge. Ngugi should shun any messianic
role thrust on him by the founding members of any potential millenarian
personality based cults that would abuse his stature for parochial and
esoteric purposes…”

Miguna Says:
>
> I have discussed some of these questions with some physicians and they
are of the opinion that the Ngugis' behaviour after the so-called
"attack" does not make any medical sense. The physicians cannot
understand how any competent medical doctor (whom the Ngugis had) could
have recommended or approved the so-called press conference and public
country tour of the alleged rape victim. Kenyans might have been taken
to the garden path on this one. And because of our fear of looking
unsympathetic with our"national hero" and his wife's ordeal, we might
have just been conned.


Exactly WHAT does NOT make sense? Will these same physicians make any
sense of the Palestinians and Iraqis who have to continue living their
lives amidst daily bombardments. Miguna you know the name of this person
so I will not mention it here- but you are familiar with the ordeal a
certain Kenyan woman underwent in January 1998 when she was almost
sexually assaulted and her place vandalized. Yet within days, she was back in business, even though SHE IS STILL dealing with the trauma today. You yourself almost lost your life in a serious road crash and yet you were back in your office soon after that. So what are you talking
about? Going back to the Kenyan woman in Toronto, I recall that what was even more traumatizing for her was the insinuation that she could stage
a sexual assault on herself and single handedly trash an establishment she had sunk tens of thousands of dollars in.

> Miguna Says:
> Exactly why are we believing Ngugi and his wife? Just because they said so? Where is the medical evidence and opinion? Have you actually heard or read the medical doctors speak? Have they actually confirmed this
allegation?

This left me almost speechless. It is NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAID SO
MIGUNA. It is because it is TRUE and ACTUALLY HAPPENED. With all DUE
RESPECT Miguna, this is about human lives, not some academic debate. Yes,I DID READ FROM THE DOCTORS- they WERE THE FIRST ONES TO SPEAK! Miguna do you want to CONDUCT A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF NJEERI WA NGUGI to confirm if she was IN FACT VIOLATED? What you are saying is EQUIVALENT to a SECOND SEXUAL ASSAULT and LET ME THE FIRST TO TELL YOU. I can NOT believe that you would be THIS INDIFFERENT. And Miguna you know I am saying this with a LOT OF ANGER because not too LONG AGO, because I believed YOU rather than SOME OUTLANDISH CLAIMS that I am NOT GOING INTO HERE, I endured MONTHS of defamation when my name, that of my son, some of the women in my life were DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD by people who were DOING THE KIND OF TRASH TALKING that you are engaging in now.

Miguna:

Right now, I am very upset. As you know for me, these issues are
intensely personal. Everytime I hear of another Kenyan woman being
assaulted, I am thinking of my sister who was sent to her grave by her
abusive husband; I think of the women in Toronto who had to flee from
abusive situations when no one believed them and I see the statistics of
rape and sexual violence affecting Kenyan women.

Do me a favour if you do not mind. Please do NOT communicate with me for
about two weeks.

Perhaps after that I will be able to talk to you calmly.

Onyango Oloo
Montreal



Subject: Questions on the Ngugis' Claims that deserve answers
From: "miguna miguna"
Date: Sat, August 21, 2004 1:31 pm
To: [e-mail]


Bwana Onyango:

I've read the two pieces and agree with you more than with Mundia. [Feel free to post my comments for your wider readers because I am prepared to defend my analysis.]

However, completely unrelated to your pieces are some questions about the so-called Ngugis' ordeals that have been bothering me. By no means am I claiming that the Ngugis have lied about their allegations. However, these questions deserve to be asked and answered.

1. First, does it not seem rather odd that the "rape" claim was made as afterthought from the Ngugis? Why, for example, did he and his doctors release information about an attempted rape earlier? Have they convincingly explained why? Have we been given a comprehensive explanation on the attack;how, when and who (description) perpetrated it? Ngugi promised to do this but has not up to now.

2. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis would immediately exculpate the Kibaki govt and praise the country for being "safe" for both foreign investment and tourists - and do so without any evidence whatsoever?

3. Did it not look odd that rather than do the responsible thing of undergoing further & through medical checks (including for the dreadful HIV/Aids) and taking time off to "recover" from the "horrors of the attack;"the Ngugis chose to go on with the so-called country tour?

4. Did it not look rather odd that the Ngugis sought and obtained, through this announcement state security, publicity, sympathy and notoreity which he had not been granted before?

5. Does it not seem rather odd that Ngugis has refused to comment on the critical issues in Kenya - ongoing grand corruption/plunder and dictatorship, including the Kibaki govt's refusal to give Kenyans a new democratic & popular constitution?

I have discussed some of these questions with some physicians and they are of the opinion that the Ngugis' behaviour after the so-called "attack" doesnot make any medical sense. The physicians cannot understand how any competent medical doctor (whom the Ngugis had) could have recommended or approved the so-called press conference and public country tour of the alleged rape victim. Kenyans might have been taken to the garden path on this one. And because of our fear of looking unsympathetic with our
"national hero" and his wife's ordeal, we might have just been conned.

Exactly why are we believing Ngugi and his wife? Just because they said so?
Where is the medical evidence and opinion? Have you actually heard or read
the medical doctors speak? Have they actually confirmed this allegation? If
not, why? If they have, where did they do so, when and how?

Those are my two cents.



MIGUNA MIGUNA
Barrister, Solicitor & Mediator/ADR Consultant
North York Square
45 Sheppard Avenue East, Suite 410
Toronto, Ontario
CANADA M2N 5W9
[e-mail]
Tel: 1+416-512-7999
Fax: 1+416-512-6750


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Oloo respond to Miguna caught my eyes.. very interesting to say the least....

. And Miguna you know I am saying this with a LOT OF ANGER because not too LONG AGO, because I believed YOU rather than SOME OUTLANDISH CLAIMS that I am NOT GOING INTO HERE, I endured MONTHS of defamation when my name, that of my son, some of the women in my life were DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD by people who were DOING THE KIND OF TRASH TALKING that you are engaging in now.

But Miguna's response says it all of the man... now he wants us to believe the claims, innuendo's e.t.c in his book.. Kenyans si wajinga..

[patriotism101]

Jul 16, 2012 20:33:03 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Jul 16, 2012 4:25:27 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

Jakaswanga,

This is in response to your challenge that someone should give you an example of when Miguna has accepted a bribe. That thread was closed down by the mighty OO before I could respond or before I read your challenge.

Before you make your conclusions about my affiliations, let me cut the chase- I don't care very much about RAO or MM.

MM has claimed that he has never taken a bribe. Sometimes in 2007, MM was running for office in his native constituency. He was defeated/rigged out (depending on who you listen to) by a current sitting MP who he has described as lackluster. Fast forward 2008, Miguna Miguna started crying, a fact well documented here in Jukwaa, how RAO had forgotten people who had fought for him and had not given them jobs.

Sometimes in 1998, Miguna Miguna a politician who had lost at the primaries (to be fair Kivutha Kibwana , Rapho Tuju and others on the PNU side) were appointed to senior positions in government. I would have expected, someone as ethical as MM to have,

1. Not canvassed for a government position especially after losing an election
2. Turned down any such appointment on ethical/principles ground

Now to the ordinary folks, the fact that he canvassed for and accepted the job in the PM's office may not be construed as corruption- but to you Jakaswanga, a sophisticated ex-teacher now lorry (is it pickup)driver lyrical smart arse- I expect you to see what this was- corruption.
Senti 5

Hmmmm, Patriotism Okekanegi, I verily should put you in good cheer, seeing I am minded to rummage my bowels and indulge you with a fat burst off my lyrically endowed smart-arse! But for shallow-lunged and kid-minded brother E, I beg you furnish a gas-mask, lest he suffocate on us. Perhaps your conscience can live with him as collateral damage; I can't, --thinking of the piteous sorrow that would unhinge his mum who cherishes him so! her Golden Boy!

Now those examples you gave of Janyando's lapses are thin. Sophistication entails one understands the nature of prerogatives that go with political appointments. The patronage leeway. The political kitchen staff not competitively advertised but paid for by the taxpayer. I got to be splitting god's particle for these your examples to register. Give me something carolistic!

Miguna throwing tantrums and crying around the blogosphere with mucus dripping from his fat cheeks just shows how badly he needed a political position. If it was money he was crying for, then he could not have resisted the loaded corrupt deals at the OPM's. This is a good distinction to make.

(But I will stand corrected when evidence is unearthed that he is Karol's twin!)

PS: ON lorries or P-Us: Tired of my testicles being smashed on the inner roads of Nyanza and lower Rift-Valley as I flew over the wretched bumps at break-neck, I decided to try my luck in areas where road-engineering is an art, so last week I revved gas all the way from Kiev to Charlerois in Belgium. (Euro 2012 heavy stuff that could not be sold in the East and had to come back home.) Yeah, on a Monster Truck like you see on those American motorways, even a German highway patrol on a porsche could not catch me until I ran out of gas! ---But that is another story! Be warned: don't mess with the gestapo even if you have diplomatic pass!)

Jakaswanga,

..monster trucks......American (super highways) motorways.........gestapo and diplomatic pass...what do you smoke?....you should write Ruto et al a movie- ;D inbox me that stuff you are inhaling/swallowing.

RAO and MM are reaping where they planted. RAO deserves all that is coming to him- probably it will help him clean house. He had been warned severally that MM is a lose cannon big mouth who could not be entrusted with the position of advisor. This to me is a better example of RAO surrounding himself with dunderheads than MM has provided. It is also not a secret that RAO has shady deals, what I find hard to comprehend is that MM could have kept quite and not written this book if RAO had signed his reinstatement letter/sufficiently kissed his feet.

So for you Jakaswanga in your gestapo mindset, it is only corruption when cash is involved? Is that what you are taught at those tax payer funded refresher courses you attend at well connected Ministers Hotels? How can MM accuse RAO for being anti change and yet he was a beneficiary of kitchen cabinet appointment who started crying out when his largess was cut off?

MM has stated that he has never given out or received a bribe. Being a politician, I find this hard to believe Jakaswanga and that is why I started with the appointment as an example. Kiss my foot otherwise I will talk is another example of character unbecoming= moral corruption=corrupt.

Senti 5

[nowayhaha]

Much of Miguna’s legal work in Canada had consisted of assisting immigrants, including immigrants from Kenya. In the course of this work, the 40-year-old Miguna had been publicly arrested on November 4, 2002, and charged with sexual assault on one of his clients, a 19-year-old woman.

Miguna appeared in court for trial on July 14, 2003, when he was rearrested and charged with further counts of sexual assault on another immigration client.

The trial judge acquitted Miguna, ruling that the alleged victims’ evidence was partially contradictory and not strong enough (as so often happens in sexual assault cases) to sustain a secure conviction. The trial judge did not, however, rule that Miguna’s accusers had acted maliciously, nor that they had formed a conspiracy, nor that they had lied.

Miguna reacted in a manner we have come to recognise – by suing everyone in sight. The defendants ranged from the Queen of England through the Canadian minister of justice, crown attorneys and the Toronto Police Board, to police officers involved in his arrest, for what a Canadian Appeal Judge called “a galaxy of reasons, some existent in law, and many not”.

Miguna also sued a newspaper that had printed a police appeal asking anyone else who believed herself a victim of Miguna’s unwanted attentions to come forward.
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Miguna sought Canadian $17.5 million in damages, but he lost just about all, if not all, the more than 20 cases he launched, ending up having to pay out tens of thousands of Canadian dollars.

Dismissing some of the cases, the Appeals Judge referred to Miguna’s “allegations based on assumptions and speculation” and said that Miguna could not “merely plead allegations that he believes may or may not be true”.

Miguna was apparently operating in the realms of fantasy and speculative allegations even then. It seems to be a pattern.

www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1455872/-/item/1/-/misyvaz/-/index.html

[cheshirecat]

Jul 15, 2012 17:57:47 GMT 3 @reporter911 said:

Jul 15, 2012 17:49:34 GMT 3 OtishOtish said:

If people wish to attack Miguna, it should be possible to do so on the basis of what he's written and said. Dragging up things like this is both disasteful and wrong-headed. Apparently, a case was brought against him, and the courts cleared him of any wrongdoing. That should be that.

DID IT? TELL US MORE.. AND ON WHAT BASES IS HE DRAGGING THE SO CALLED PAST CLAIMS OF ACCUSATIONS ON HIS SO CALLED "ENEMIES" AND WHERE ARE THE CASES AGAINST THEM IN REGARDS TO HIS SO CALLED CLAIMS? POST THEM ON HERE ANY CASE THAT IS STILL PENDING IN THE COURTS OF KENYA OR THE ICC?
THOSE RAPED VICTIMS HAVE A SAY AND THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK IF THEY CHOSE TOO.. or reopen their cases..
ALL KENYANS HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION MIGUNA'S MORALS AND INTEGRITY IF THEY SO WISH TO.. HE BROUGHT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES MORALS AND INTEGRITY IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, SO HE TOO MUST ALLOW THE SAME TO BE QUESTIONED OF HIS!! enuff said..
If one runs on integrity and morals while pointing fingers at others then then their records current and passed must be squeaky clean.. not if and buts!!!!

guess a neutral observer would ask why Miguna never left the PM's office despite the graft, and why the PM's office hired and retained a rapist..

When all is said and done, I think its shady meets shadier.

[jakaswanga]

Jul 16, 2012 22:35:37 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

RAO and MM are reaping where they planted. RAO deserves all that is coming to him- probably it will help him clean house. He had been warned severally that MM is a lose cannon big mouth who could not be entrusted with the position of advisor. This to me is a better example of RAO surrounding himself with dunderheads than MM has provided. It is also not a secret that RAO has shady deals, what I find hard to comprehend is that MM could have kept quite and not written this book if RAO had signed his reinstatement letter/sufficiently kissed his feet.

So for you Jakaswanga in your gestapo mindset, it is only corruption when cash is involved? Is that what you are taught at those tax payer funded refresher courses you attend at well connected Ministers Hotels? How can MM accuse RAO for being anti change and yet he was a beneficiary of kitchen cabinet appointment who started crying out when his largess was cut off?

MM has stated that he has never given out or received a bribe. Being a politician, I find this hard to believe Jakaswanga and that is why I started with the appointment as an example. Kiss my foot otherwise I will talk is another example of character unbecoming= moral corruption=corrupt. Senti 5

Okay, Patriotism! I notice your handle has a monstrous depth charge!

I thank you for letting me face up to something I rarely face up to in discourses such as I put across on this board, with respect to Kenya.

I also recognize your uncompromising stand against all corruption as a level which is usually absent, perhaps because that standard would be so high, it would require a saintly pedigree of politicians. My error, perhaps springing from my political corruption, is that I always consider such a puritanical stand as yours to be ABSOLUTIST MORALISM. And in my thinking I am afraid this is something I tend to leave for religious orders, since these believe in infallible men. This then forms my point of departure, because I do not expect, nor look for saints in politics. (Holy men are for the church... but even there?)

Thus my political heroes ---for lack of a better concept-- will be fallible beings; men of visible faults and multi-contradictions. Some of them only yesterday Sauls, yet today Pauls. Politics being the dirty game of compromises, I tend to lower the absolutist moral bar. The corruption of pragmatism, and the concessions to reality has its toll, without which one would have to join the religious orders which live in isolated abbeys far from the known world.

But I salute you for forcing to face up to this philosophical perspective which nearly as a rule, I no longer debate. It is an intellectual omission [and absent from public discourse] which perhaps reflects a moral deficit in secular critique.

I will therefore humbly accept your rebuke that I am an arse-hole, even if you showed yourself a cunning hand, softening the impact by inserting the word lyrical!

Jul 16, 2012 22:35:37 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

Jakaswanga,

..monster trucks......American (super highways) motorways.........gestapo and diplomatic pass...what do you smoke?....you should write Ruto et al a movie- ;D inbox me that stuff you are inhaling/swallowing.

The pot I have been smoking is:
We call it 'HASH' here, from the arabic 'Hashish'.

There is hash al-Liban [from Lebanon], but ever since the Hezbollah started to reorganize that country, the supply has dwindled. Next is hash al-marakech, that is from Morroco, and long distance truckers ferry it in in tonnes. Then there is al-afghan, popularized by returning NATO soldiers, and a unique puff. Then there is the devil from the North: neder-wiet. This is dutch-weed, a genetically manipulated monster with a knock out-punch [horse-kick] to the uninitiated gluttons!

So, mate, are you ordering?
Oops, sorry! forgot outside the Benelux these things are called narcotica and even recreational use is punishable by death!

THIS SENTENCE YOU WROTE IS SEDITION!
Is that what you are taught at those tax payer funded refresher courses you attend at well connected Ministers Hotels!

Remember the word fired?

[patriotism101]

Jul 17, 2012 19:41:08 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Jul 16, 2012 22:35:37 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

RAO and MM are reaping where they planted. RAO deserves all that is coming to him- probably it will help him clean house. He had been warned severally that MM is a lose cannon big mouth who could not be entrusted with the position of advisor. This to me is a better example of RAO surrounding himself with dunderheads than MM has provided. It is also not a secret that RAO has shady deals, what I find hard to comprehend is that MM could have kept quite and not written this book if RAO had signed his reinstatement letter/sufficiently kissed his feet.

So for you Jakaswanga in your gestapo mindset, it is only corruption when cash is involved? Is that what you are taught at those tax payer funded refresher courses you attend at well connected Ministers Hotels? How can MM accuse RAO for being anti change and yet he was a beneficiary of kitchen cabinet appointment who started crying out when his largess was cut off?

MM has stated that he has never given out or received a bribe. Being a politician, I find this hard to believe Jakaswanga and that is why I started with the appointment as an example. Kiss my foot otherwise I will talk is another example of character unbecoming= moral corruption=corrupt. Senti 5

Okay, Patriotism! I notice your handle has a monstrous depth charge!

I thank you for letting me face up to something I rarely face up to in discourses such as I put across on this board, with respect to Kenya.

I also recognize your uncompromising stand against all corruption as a level which is usually absent, perhaps because that standard would be so high, it would require a saintly pedigree of politicians. My error, perhaps springing from my political corruption, is that I always consider such a puritanical stand as yours to be ABSOLUTIST MORALISM. And in my thinking I am afraid this is something I tend to leave for religious orders, since these believe in infallible men. This then forms my point of departure, because I do not expect, nor look for saints in politics. (Holy men are for the church... but even there?)

Thus my political heroes ---for lack of a better concept-- will be fallible beings; men of visible faults and multi-contradictions. Some of them only yesterday Sauls, yet today Pauls. Politics being the dirty game of compromises, I tend to lower the absolutist moral bar. The corruption of pragmatism, and the concessions to reality has its toll, without which one would have to join the religious orders which live in isolated abbeys far from the known world.

But I salute you for forcing to face up to this philosophical perspective which nearly as a rule, I no longer debate. It is an intellectual omission [and absent from public discourse] which perhaps reflects a moral deficit in secular critique.

I will therefore humbly accept your rebuke that I am an arse-hole, even if you showed yourself a cunning hand, softening the impact by inserting the word lyrical!

Jul 16, 2012 22:35:37 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

Jakaswanga,

..monster trucks......American (super highways) motorways.........gestapo and diplomatic pass...what do you smoke?....you should write Ruto et al a movie- ;D inbox me that stuff you are inhaling/swallowing.

The pot I have been smoking is:
We call it 'HASH' here, from the arabic 'Hashish'.

There is hash al-Liban [from Lebanon], but ever since the Hezbollah started to reorganize that country, the supply has dwindled. Next is hash al-marakech, that is from Morroco, and long distance truckers ferry it in in tonnes. Then there is al-afghan, popularized by returning NATO soldiers, and a unique puff. Then there is the devil from the North: neder-wiet. This is dutch-weed, a genetically manipulated monster with a knock out-punch [horse-kick] to the uninitiated gluttons!

So, mate, are you ordering?
Oops, sorry! forgot outside the Benelux these things are called narcotica and even recreational use is punishable by death!

THIS SENTENCE YOU WROTE IS SEDITION!
Is that what you are taught at those tax payer funded refresher courses you attend at well connected Ministers Hotels!

Remember the word fired?

Jakaswanga,

Your message is safe with me in my inbox- unless OO or some other admin snoops around. Unlike some people on this board- I will keep private conversations private ;D, when we differ, I will not threaten you with legal action since I now have your personal contacts which you have voluntarily passed on to me and is lying safely in my inbox. I will not remind you the torture I went through or the number of times I was detained everytime you call me out for being mtu wa mkono. Above all, I will not remind you that I am the admin of my inbox and I can kick you out any time in a fit for coffee crave.

What I dont remember is the "bur" you added on the smart alec compliment I swang your way. That was never my intention.

A question for you Jakaswanga. TJ, your homie, was reknowed to be one smart strategists and visionary-even though he built a causeway instead of a "super" bridge for you folks (was money eaten ?) . I have avoided to draw paralellels of what happened to RAO's father and what is happening to Junior vis a vis TJ, MM fiasco. Obviously you cannot compare MM to TJ, but some things pop up. Are there lessons the "luo" nation (as mutahi ngunyi will call it) can learn from the fiasco? Is MM RAO's TJ? am listening.

Senti 5

[jakaswanga]

Jul 18, 2012 0:32:29 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

Jakaswanga,

Your message is safe with me in my inbox- unless OO or some other admin snoops around. Unlike some people on this board- I will keep private conversations private ;D, when we differ, I will not threaten you with legal action since I now have your personal contacts which you have voluntarily passed on to me and is lying safely in my inbox. I will not remind you the torture I went through or the number of times I was detained everytime you call me out for being mtu wa mkono. Above all, I will not remind you that I am the admin of my inbox and I can kick you out any time in a fit for coffee crave.

What I dont remember is the "bur" you added on the smart alec compliment I swang your way. That was never my intention.

A question for you Jakaswanga. TJ, your homie, was reknowed to be one smart strategists and visionary-even though he built a causeway instead of a "super" bridge for you folks (was money eaten ?) . I have avoided to draw paralellels of what happened to RAO's father and what is happening to Junior vis a vis TJ, MM fiasco. Obviously you cannot compare MM to TJ, but some things pop up. Are there lessons the "luo" nation (as mutahi ngunyi will call it) can learn from the fiasco? Is MM RAO's TJ? am listening.

Senti 5

The bur I added! Lets handle that another day Reporter.

I must say your disclaimer, enumerating the strengths of your character and how you will defend my particulars (even if I insult you as mtu wa mkono on a later date) reminded me of the hilarious missive by the sage Abdulmote when, with I, Kamalet and MakOwenga in a free for all bar brawl --Museveni in Bondo thread I think, the issue of foot in mouth became thorny. Abdulmote wrote a piece in which he reported the progress he made as he tried walking with his two feet in his mouth!

I couldn't read it in one piece. Ribs too painful.

On the issue of lessons from this public ultercation between two Luo egos, sure there are for the nation. We will think them out bit by bit, and if Oloo does not lump us together with the toilet-mouths marked for the guillotine shortly ;D, we will state our minds (in fear!)

[jakaswanga]

Jul 18, 2012 0:32:29 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

[A question for you Jakaswanga. TJ, your homie, was reknowed to be one smart strategists and visionary-even though he built a causeway instead of a "super" bridge for you folks (was money eaten ?) .

Hey, Patriotism101,

TJ, Rateng' Omin Okuku, according to stories we grew up with, had managed to find funding for his 'Golden Gate Bridge' over the straight of Mbita. The funds were American sourced and not Government budget, which obviously could not build such a prestigious bridge for such an economically insignificant island while the border route to Busia still left a lot to be desired. We are talking late sixties here. Then TJ was assassinated in 1969 before fruition, and the bridge idea was never heard of again, neither were the disignated funds.

The causeway was completed in 1983 or thereabouts I think.

TUNG' ODERO JAKAWANYAMA AND THE CAUSEWAY & other stories.

Depending on which clan one comes from, the legend will be told differently, but here is one version. The straight between Mainland Mbita and Rusinga island was referred to as Um Nam, the nose of the Lake. The Winam Gulf refreshes herself with it. But in the evenings as water gushes in from the outer lake with harsh winds, it was always a perilous crossing for boat (ferry) men of oars, some of them being swept with their passengers all the way to Mbuta's Uyoma if they were lucky not to capsize!

One of the first things TJ organized when he became prominent was the famous ferry.

But long ago when the crossing was always the paddled canoe, when such a boat capsized, there was a horn or a conch, (a tung' or oporo), which would be sounded (blown) to warn all fishermen that the next day there would be a body-search in the Lake. The big horn, known as Tung Odero Jakawanyama --(this was the man with the most powerful lungs and air control who ever blew it and with artistic virtuosity to boot), was, blown atop a hill on Rusinga island, rumoured to 'ride the winds' all the way to Kendu Bay, the beaches of Nyakach, reverberate off Huma ranges back to the Uyoma beaches (where Mbuta Rahiri of Jukwaa holds sway); and at the same time reach the outposts of Yimbo on the way to Alego, covering the beaches of Sakwa in its wake. (That is the Sakwa where young Adongo later of Jukwaa learnt the art of delaying girls foraging for firewood in thick forests!)

By 8 am the following morning, the weather being good, the waters would be awash with boats combing the lake for the dead.

But there was something else. There were ways of blowing the tung', which specified which wind had been blowing when the boat capsized. The type of wind --I can barely remember five now, was related to the current, and experienced fishermen knew where the currents went with which wind. So decoding the sound of the horn would give men the coordinates to narrow down the search in the large expanse of water.

Legend has it the first armed colonial expedition to visit the island, shooting dead the custodian Odera in the process, confiscated the original tung' (and lots of other curiosa) and shipped them out to Europe. (And some of us do spend copious amounts of time in theo tropical musea of Europe, going over forgotten catalogues listing colonial artefacts and their origins!).

So as the causeway was being built, there was a body of traditional knowledge that insisted the inner lake was being suffocated, and would turn into a pond, a pool of dead water continuously silted and colonised by weeds --and other fishes who fear current prone whirling waters.

The younger generation, fearful of the ageing TJ ferry and the risky canoe-boat crossings did not much mind the closing of the nose of the gulf. But I must say as soon as the causeway was completed, inner gulf fishermen started to complain that the lake was changing colour (Nyaka nyocha din ume, Nam maiyeni tinde oloko kite)!

There have been many ecological studies, icluding a recommedation that the the causeway be punctured, or destroyed totally. But there gotta be cash for the alternatives. And that is scarce.

PS: The late poet Ouma Omore, better known with his benga stage name Omore Tisa, of Omore stars, is said to have integrated the various tones of Tung' Odero, but he reworked them into frolicky guitar licks for pop consumption. A terrifying feat.

We wait for a 'horn-blower' to do the forlon and funereal interpretations of the historical conch! Our experiments on the synthesizer have miserably failed to date, but it is a work in progress ;D. The sprits said: omera tung' tho ok gore e wende sianda madongo! ok noyienu!

So I need brother Einstein to sleep with some dead bodies to appease the spirits, so that a man named Ochwal golden fingers Jakanyamwa, can be freed of his artistic block, unlock tung' Odero in his sleep, and introduce a new ahangla beat on the synthesizer!
to be the craze of the next season!
I will be back!

Jul 18, 2012 0:32:29 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

[I have avoided to draw paralellels of what happened to RAO's father and what is happening to Junior vis a vis TJ, MM fiasco. Obviously you cannot compare MM to TJ, but some things pop up. Are there lessons the "luo" nation (as mutahi ngunyi will call it) can learn from the fiasco? Is MM RAO's TJ? am listening.

Senti 5

Let me work on this one sir, and I may be back!

[patriotism101]

Jul 23, 2012 21:24:43 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Jul 18, 2012 0:32:29 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

[A question for you Jakaswanga. TJ, your homie, was reknowed to be one smart strategists and visionary-even though he built a causeway instead of a "super" bridge for you folks (was money eaten ?) .

Hey, Patriotism101,

TJ, Rateng' Omin Okuku, according to stories we grew up with, had managed to find funding for his 'Golden Gate Bridge' over the straight of Mbita. The funds were American sourced and not Government budget, which obviously could not build such a prestigious bridge for such an economically insignificant island while the border route to Busia still left a lot to be desired. We are talking late sixties here. Then TJ was assassinated in 1969 before fruition, and the bridge idea was never heard of again, neither were the disignated funds.

The causeway was completed in 1983 or thereabouts I think.

TUNG' ODERO JAKAWANYAMA AND THE CAUSEWAY & other stories.

Depending on which clan one comes from, the legend will be told differently, but here is one version. The straight between Mainland Mbita and Rusinga island was referred to as Um Nam, the nose of the Lake. The Winam Gulf refreshes herself with it. But in the evenings as water gushes in from the outer lake with harsh winds, it was always a perilous crossing for boat (ferry) men of oars, some of them being swept with their passengers all the way to Mbuta's Uyoma if they were lucky not to capsize!

One of the first things TJ organized when he became prominent was the famous ferry.

But long ago when the crossing was always the paddled canoe, when such a boat capsized, there was a horn or a conch, (a tung' or oporo), which would be sounded (blown) to warn all fishermen that the next day there would be a body-search in the Lake. The big horn, known as Tung Odero Jakawanyama --(this was the man with the most powerful lungs and air control who ever blew it and with artistic virtuosity to boot), was, blown atop a hill on Rusinga island, rumoured to 'ride the winds' all the way to Kendu Bay, the beaches of Nyakach, reverberate off Huma ranges back to the Uyoma beaches (where Mbuta Rahiri of Jukwaa holds sway); and at the same time reach the outposts of Yimbo on the way to Alego, covering the beaches of Sakwa in its wake. (That is the Sakwa where young Adongo later of Jukwaa learnt the art of delaying girls foraging for firewood in thick forests!)

By 8 am the following morning, the weather being good, the waters would be awash with boats combing the lake for the dead.

But there was something else. There were ways of blowing the tung', which specified which wind had been blowing when the boat capsized. The type of wind --I can barely remember five now, was related to the current, and experienced fishermen knew where the currents went with which wind. So decoding the sound of the horn would give men the coordinates to narrow down the search in the large expanse of water.

Legend has it the first armed colonial expedition to visit the island, shooting dead the custodian Odera in the process, confiscated the original tung' (and lots of other curiosa) and shipped them out to Europe. (And some of us do spend copious amounts of time in theo tropical musea of Europe, going over forgotten catalogues listing colonial artefacts and their origins!).

So as the causeway was being built, there was a body of traditional knowledge that insisted the inner lake was being suffocated, and would turn into a pond, a pool of dead water continuously silted and colonised by weeds --and other fishes who fear current prone whirling waters.

The younger generation, fearful of the ageing TJ ferry and the risky canoe-boat crossings did not much mind the closing of the nose of the gulf. But I must say as soon as the causeway was completed, inner gulf fishermen started to complain that the lake was changing colour (Nyaka nyocha din ume, Nam maiyeni tinde oloko kite)!

There have been many ecological studies, icluding a recommedation that the the causeway be punctured, or destroyed totally. But there gotta be cash for the alternatives. And that is scarce.

PS: The late poet Ouma Omore, better known with his benga stage name Omore Tisa, of Omore stars, is said to have integrated the various tones of Tung' Odero, but he reworked them into frolicky guitar licks for pop consumption. A terrifying feat.

We wait for a 'horn-blower' to do the forlon and funereal interpretations of the historical conch! Our experiments on the synthesizer have miserably failed to date, but it is a work in progress ;D. The sprits said: omera tung' tho ok gore e wende sianda madongo! ok noyienu!

So I need brother Einstein to sleep with some dead bodies to appease the spirits, so that a man named Ochwal golden fingers Jakanyamwa, can be freed of his artistic block, unlock tung' Odero in his sleep, and introduce a new ahangla beat on the synthesizer!
to be the craze of the next season!
I will be back!

Jul 18, 2012 0:32:29 GMT 3 patriotism101 said:

[I have avoided to draw paralellels of what happened to RAO's father and what is happening to Junior vis a vis TJ, MM fiasco. Obviously you cannot compare MM to TJ, but some things pop up. Are there lessons the "luo" nation (as mutahi ngunyi will call it) can learn from the fiasco? Is MM RAO's TJ? am listening.

Senti 5

Let me work on this one sir, and I may be back!

Jakaswanga,

I appreciate the background and the context. Now someone like makale can appreciate why "Beth Mugo" had to be tossed off the ferry -mon oluoro andur-fear of andur is lengendery - what with tung blowing and yamo oloko- but when your competition, has already crossed over- there is no qualms wielding a little power.

I will lurk around for the second installment.

Senti 5

[nowayhaha]

the-star.co.ke/weekend/siasa/87032-fallacious-and-invented-more-about-miguna

One curious thing I noticed was Miguna’s apparent lack of male friends. He esteems his male teachers who supported him, and he admires some of his erstwhile student colleagues (that is, those he is not busy sneering at) but most of the good friends he mentions are women. (An exception is Onyango Oloo, who runs the Jukwaa web blog, and who was Miguna’s main defence witness in his 2003 trial for alleged sexual assault against two of his clients – which, by the way, is mentioned nowhere in Miguna’s story of his glorious career, even in an exculpatory manner.)