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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 19, 2012 0:06:47 GMT 3
A STATEMENT ABOUT THREATS TO MY LIFE BY MIGUNA MIGUNA
At about 3:45pm (Kenyan time) today, I received an email from a Tracy.Wambui@ovi.com stating: “To Miguna
MR MIGUNA WE WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.WE NEED YOUR KIDNEY.SAHIZI TUTAKUTUMIA MAJINI ZA MOMBASA Sent from my Nokia phone.”
I do not know who this person is. I have never communicated with her/him.
Following barely a day after the chilling one party type demonstrations against me led by the ODM MP for Nyando, Fred Outa, in Ahero, in which they not only burnt my effigy, but also participated in a mock burial of a coffin, it is clear that the Prime Minister Raila Odinga and his supporters have resolved to engage in physical, emotional, psychological and other attacks in order not just to divert attention from the issues raised in my book; their intention is also to permanently silence dissent and kill debate.
Suppression of dissent. Muzzling one’s opponents. Threats of assassinations. Personal attacks. These cannot be good for the rule of law, constitutionalism and good governance. They are not traits one can associate with a person who claims to be the best reformer in the country.
Eerily, Raila Odinga and his campaign secretariat have been DIRECTLY linked to these acts of hooliganism and lawlessness. None other than his deputy patron of Friends of Raila (FORA) lobby group, Gitobu Imanyara, addressed a press conference to hurl epithets at me and scandalise my name. He claimed, falsely, that I was a “fugitive from justice” even though I have not been charged with any criminal offence. The same day – and in what is clearly a coordinated attack – Raila’s long-standing speech-writer and consultant, Sarah Elderkin, released a broadside against me and accused me of all manner of things without any substantiation. Readers will recall that Sarah’s opinion of me is contained in pages 496-498 of my book. Morever, she wasn't present at the meetings she purports to report on and not privy to the discussions. How can she then refute things she is ignorant of?
Raila should come out in the open and confront the facts in my book. He cannot hide behind Caroli Omondi, Sarah Elderkin, Gitobu Imanyara and many other busy bodies who Kenyans haven't bestowed the title of “Prime Minister” on. Raila is DIRECTLY accountable to the people of Kenya, including me. He cannot hide forever as the truth has a stubborn way of curling against the culture of impunity.
Finally, I appeal to the Commissioner of Police, Mr. Mathew Iteere, the CID Director and the Director General of the National Security Service, Mr. Gichangi, to thoroughly and expeditiously investigate the threat against me and apprehend the people behind them and have them prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Otherwise, I shall not not be cowed or muzzled. The struggle will and must continue.
Miguna Miguna
Dated this 18th day of July 2012 at the City of Toronto.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 19, 2012 0:50:38 GMT 3
Comrade Oloo:
I found this quite funny: "addressed a press conference to hurl epithets at me and scandalise my name". I don't know why it made me chuckle so much.
Tell your friend to relax and enjoy his vacation. I hear that Canada is having one heck of a summer, and it would be a shame to waste it on fights conducted via the media. If he is not into booze or weed, this might be the time to try a little of both---but not to go as far as a leading presidential candidate. Moderation in all things is the key to a happy life.
Raila has obviously "delegated" the "Miguna Problem" to others. That seems both reasonable (he being a busy man and all) and sensible (in that we don't expect the Prime Minister to trade blows at this level).
The email to Miguna himself seems like a bit of a joke, but one never knows. Perhaps when Miguna goes to Iteere and Gichangi to record a statement on the threat, he might also volunteer the information he has that can "send all the leaders to Hague". After all, in the latter case, people have not just been threatened but have (in the thousands) been murdered, raped, badly mutilated, etc.
We hope his relatives in Kenya are safe, and we strongly condemn any threats that may have been made to them. As for Miguna, we wish him a happy and relaxing vacation. I hope that, for his own sake (as well as for his family), he will just stay in Canada and not bother with Kenya---at least for a few years.
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Post by man on Jul 19, 2012 3:08:40 GMT 3
Is it only me noticing this or, Is Miguna fixated on Raila?
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Post by deyiengs on Jul 19, 2012 4:08:05 GMT 3
This might be another way of preempting his August (none) return trip to Kenya. "you see, I cannot come back if my life is in danger". Stay put brother MM. Relax and only come back after a loooooong time when emotions shall have cooled down.
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Post by gateway on Jul 19, 2012 5:04:35 GMT 3
This Giant Must Have A Very SMALL BRAIN. I used to think he was SMARTER Than this. S(He) runs Her/his mouth like those Ghetto African American Hoes In East St Louis City, Missouri. Makelele za nini?? Do you have friends to advise you?? I really have to check and see what a SOCIALIST is. Is it a noise-maker? Now you guys are just THREATENING people. Who told you we can be easily scared?? We do not give a *.
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Post by moesha on Jul 19, 2012 5:54:50 GMT 3
Is it only me noticing this or, Is Miguna fixated on Raila? You are not the only one. I said right at the beginning that Miguna was behaving like a jilted lover who is out for revenge and unless he see's blood, the man will not rest. Everything going wrong in Miguna's life is Raila's fault. Raila has delegated his petty issues to subordinates but that doesn't seem to appease him. I seriously think this man has some underlying mental health issues.
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on Jul 19, 2012 6:57:29 GMT 3
In Kenya, we have always mistaken "boldness, arrogance and loudmouthing" for intelligence.....Martha karua,William Ruto, Miguna Miguna,Otieno kajwang, Kamau Kuria, Alfred Mutua........
Miguna is surely Esther Arunga version 2.0.....This is mental illness...
But wait....the guy is seeking excuses to extend his exile in Canada....he knows the mzungu is so gullible and will be very shocked to an extend of even giving Miguna diplomatic passes
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Post by adongo23456 on Jul 19, 2012 10:14:42 GMT 3
Folks,
I just woke up from the farm house in Bondo town. With the miracle of technology I can now access internet and pretty much interact with the world whole right from here. It is fun to be online even as you watch chicken running amok and gaze at the stretching farm with the kids still snoring behind in their room after stubbornly refusing to sleep in time last night with all the excitement.
So I decided what better thing to do than check out Jukwaa which will be the very first time I have done so from my Bondo home. And this thread was the first thing I came across. I said to myself at this rate Jukwaa is risking turning into a full blown Miguna Miguna tabloid. Some lunatic sends me Miguna a shenzi e-mail and it is headline news item in Jukwaa. Please.
Before Oloo bashers jump in with their own assumptions let me just tell you folks that we had a great choma and political event in Nairobi on Monday July 16 at comrade Atieno's dig in Riverside Nairobi. It was a wonderful day. A good number of my activist friends were there and boy when these Nairobi guys say they are having a BBQ party for friends it is not those back yard things we have up there in North America. It is serious business.
I knew things were going to be heavy when I accompanied my good friends Kizito and Ndung'i Githuku to the favourite Butchery in Dagoreti market and they step into this place and I see virtually whole goats and their favourite parts being hauled into the weighing machine. Then we were headed to Westlands to a fish joint (they are everywhere now) and the same damage continued.
So we had a great time with Oloo and talked all manner of important things including the Miguna saga of course. We had with us an aspiring candidate for the governorship of Nairobi. A 35 year old gentleman whose interest in politics started at age 13 year old. His depth on the political history of the country intrigued even some seasoned veterans like myself. That was something else.
So why am I "whining" about the tablodization of Jukwaa with this Miguna thing running out of control?
I am concerned that everything is just being thrown around with everybody trying to run away from the real issues and trying ti twist this circus for the personal gains and that includes Miguna. I will come to that shortly.
Now we have some lunatic Outa from Nyando trying to milk the situation to bury Miguna in Nyando obviously for his own political interests. Has anybody ever heard Outa talk about anything else concerning our country? Outa and his likes should be condemned without reservations and the ODM needs to wake up from this stupidity of feeding into the circus and imagining they are helping. I would rather see the very well reasoned and articulate perspectives from Sarah Elderkin, who has like has supported Miguna's fight against corrupt elements in the PM's office and who like me see the present Miguna crusade as loaded withe very questionable facts and dubious interests.
Sarah Elderkin's first series on the issue was a gloves off eye opener for some. So I can take the Sarah Elderkins but has no time for the crude and idiotic behaviour of the likes of Fred Outa But we should also not get carried away the way we saw when a bunch of youth attacked Tuju in Kisumu and it was portrayed as if the entire ODM and Raila in particular was out to get Tuju killed. Rubbish. It all fizzled out and Tuju has gone on with his business without much fanfare and drama.
I agree with Miguna when he says that Outa and others who have acted in a manner as to breach the law should be investigated fully by Police Commissioner Mr. Iteere and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It is ironic that the same Miguna went ballistic when Tobiko and Iteere decided he (Miguna) should avail himself to the police to shed light on his very serious claim that he has information incriminating Kenyans in high places who organized mass murder and rape in Kenya. Miguna was puzzled as to why the police should ask him to present such information to them and other relevant authorities. Miguna instead wants to be protected as a "potential witness" even though he has by his own admission decided to horde such alleged critical information for a future book instead of providing it to the relevant. My friend,Miguna, what is good for geese is also good for the gander.
I have asked a question here before and Miguna has completely and conveniently avoided and I will raise it again because it is an issue that exposes Miguna's own underbelly. I can see why it may convenient to divert attention to from those particular issues I have but I will raise them again because they have not been addressed.
1. Does Miguna think that it is OK to horde alleged vital information on mass murder and rape in Kenya and not provide it to those investigating the same? Let's quit the diversion of Miguna claiming that Tobiko does not know if he has already provided the information he has to the ICC. People are not idiots. Miguna spoke live on TV and what he said was not a riddle. It was a direct statement of Miguna warning some people to either kiss his feet or he will take them to The Hague. It cannot be plainer than that. How can Miguna demand "protection" as an ICC witness when he is allegedly hording his alleged ICC related info for black mail purposes based on his own statement at the the launch of his book.
2. Ndugu Miguna, don't you think you would be serving the interests of impunity and betraying the victims of the PEV and the interests of justice in Kenya if as you allege you are sitting on information that could send the planners of the killings and mayhem for whatever reasons? That a question for which I would appreciate an answer from you. If indeed you have such information and you are willing to lay it out there and present it the relevant authorities, I would be one of your most ardent defenders and trust me Kenyans will ensure your safety.
3. Finally Ndugu Miguna if you are just blowing hot air and has no information about Raila or any of your new enemies organizing mass murder and rape in Kenya don't think it is criminal of you to peddle such lies? How would you feel if others did the same about you? Why my friend don't you want to also be held to the same standards like you to hold others.
Those are my humble questions from my humble simba here in Bondo. Have a good time in Toronto, my new home town.
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Post by phil on Jul 19, 2012 10:54:11 GMT 3
@adongo
I totally disagree with you on the contention that Hon Outa - in leading a public demo/protest on the actions of Miguna - was in breach of law. Can you be as to specific on which law it is? Let's stop the double standards and short sighted intepreatations of the law to suit our convenient arguments. The fact of the matter is that peaceful demos are a right guaranteed by the constution. Fullstop!
Since your arrival in Kenya, I guess having spent sometime with Onyango Oloo in Nairobi, you may now have a different perspective of Miguna Miguna and his peeling book which you condemned right here on Jukwaa while you were still in Canada.
Sarah Elderkin has raised pertinent issues on the Miguna book which both MC Oloo and Author Miguna have both conveniently ignored. For instance, while Miguna misleads his readers that Raila appointed his cousin Midiwo to the post of Whip in parliament, the position is in reality an elective position just like that of the Speaker and Deputy Speaker. Miguna also betrays the trust and confidence of his personal friends in his desperate attempt to undermine the PM.
Elderkin has completely distinguished the fire (for lack of a better word) that Miguna had purportedly lit under the seat of PM Odinga, much to the disgust of RAO haters who have now resorted to hurling insults instead of lauching their own counter arguments, now that they demigod Miguna is on self-imposed exile in Canada.
I have news for Miguna and his followers. PM Odinga was elected by Kenyans. A minion like Miguna shall not make demands on the PM to answer him. Miguna cannot and will never win a political war against Odinga. Whats more, the PM will not stoop to the level of a deranged former aide to answer "charges" as some president wannabe's are already demanding. This is what is driving Miguna nuts, that the PM is going about his business as if Miguna's book never existed. Miguna, I know you are reading this and I have two words for you: MEZA WEMBE!
As for Outa's questionable performance in the legislature, I would think that this is is solely a judgement for the voters of Nyando. After all, they previously opted for Outa who beat Miguna fair and square in the ODM primaries in 2007, before the PM came to Miguna's rescue with a job. What is!?
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Post by nalinali on Jul 19, 2012 10:59:49 GMT 3
Adongo
In referring to Hon Outa as Outa Odera, you may in fact be referring to Dr Odera Outa rather than the MP. Could they be sharing the same name? The Dr Odera Outa I know is intelligent, suave and utterly incapable of what happened at Ahero. Please check out this fact.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 19, 2012 11:07:09 GMT 3
Since Miguna's book launch, one thing that has stuck is his comment on information on PEV and for which he has been pilloried by one and all!
I think people refuse to take a look back and see Miguna the die hard supporter and defender of Raila. That time meant that Miguna would not publicly accuse the PM and his office of graft leave alone divulge information about PEV that could have hurt his principal. When the ICC saga started, all and sundry in ODM wanted the case to be on Ruto and Raila should have featured nowhere.
Now the problem is that the two have parted ways which means that Miguna if threatened thinks he can use that information to shut up his critics whose only aim is to save Raila.
Now if Miguna is in this position where he thinks things have got to the point where the ace up his sleeve must come out now, then to quote him, the information he has withheld on PEV must come out oh baby! Let him tell it all without holding back anything. Even if it hurts Raila so be it!
If Miguna can let Kenyans know what he has held back and most importantly take it to Bensouda, I shall celebrate if it nails Raila or anyone else the ICC has not touched. He could just end up being my hero!!!!
Go Miguna! Go!
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Post by adongo23456 on Jul 19, 2012 11:19:08 GMT 3
phil,
If you read what I said a little more carefully you might notice whoever this idiot is should be investigated in case he and his mob acted in a manner as to breach the law. I never said the mob breached the law otherwise there would be no need for invesitgation. While I fully agree with the right to self expression I would urge you tell these mobs that they are not doing the ODM anyfavours with these misguided demos. As a matter of fact they are harming ODM with the image of intolerance. Their whole charade adds no value to ODm, but I am sure you guys no better.
nanlinali, I am going to check the real name of Nyando M.P and correct the mistake. He is essentially unkown element trying to capitalise on the charade going on. I know Dr. Outa Odera very well. We were in college together and shared many things in common including his penchant for the written word.
Thanks folks. Now I am off for another round of talking with the village. I will tell you folks later what they have been telling me about the Miguna issue and my surprise at the Jukwaa follks in Bondo including my lonng term buddy JO who left yesterday to attend a Unesco sponsored meeting in Nairobi.
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Post by adongo23456 on Jul 19, 2012 11:31:19 GMT 3
Since Miguna's book launch, one thing that has stuck is his comment on information on PEV and for which he has been pilloried by one and all! I think people refuse to take a look back and see Miguna the die hard supporter and defender of Raila. That time meant that Miguna would not publicly accuse the PM and his office of graft leave alone divulge information about PEV that could have hurt his principal. When the ICC saga started, all and sundry in ODM wanted the case to be on Ruto and Raila should have featured nowhere. Now the problem is that the two have parted ways which means that Miguna if threatened thinks he can use that information to shut up his critics whose only aim is to save Raila. Now if Miguna is in this position where he thinks things have got to the point where the ace up his sleeve must come out now, then to quote him, the information he has withheld on PEV must come out oh baby! Let him tell it all without holding back anything. Even if it hurts Raila so be it! If Miguna can let Kenyans know what he has held back and most importantly take it to Bensouda, I shall celebrate if it nails Raila or anyone else the ICC has not touched. He could just end up being my hero!!!! Go Miguna! Go! Kamale,My sentiments exactly. You cannot claim to be fightmg impunity while at the same time making loud public statements that you have information of people (Raila and co) who masterminded and sponsored mass murder in Kenya and you are hording that info from the ICC as long as the alleged perpetrators kiss your feet. If Miguna is saying the truth about that he owes it to the victims of PEV, to the interests of justice, to the country and to himself to avail that information to ICC instead of using it as a tool of black mail and future books. That is ridiculous. If on the other hand Miguna is lying and actually has no information linking Raila to mass murder and rape then he is committing a criminal offense of providing false information, committing acts of slander. How on earth can someone do that and keep shouting about integrity. Sreading lies likely to cause enmity between communities and tension at this critical time in our country just to sell a book does not strike me as an act that inspires any confidence on the integrity of the authors of such mischief.
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Post by mzee on Jul 19, 2012 12:00:17 GMT 3
Adongo, You last point is spot on. The hording of information by Miguna can cause friction between communities. Afterall there is a belief in some quarters that members of their community have falsely been "taken" to the Hague. Migunas careless utterances might only confirm and strengthen this false belief.
I know that Miguna is craving for Railas personal reaction but the PM has refused to say a word so he should just chill. Githongo wrote a book about Kibaki and the president refused to comment. I did not see Githongo throwing tantarums.
Miguna should stop reacting to every single email because at this rate people will send him crank mails just to hear his counter reaction. And who told him that the e-mailers know or have been sent by the PM or ODM. The emailer could be any joker.
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Post by major on Jul 19, 2012 16:18:06 GMT 3
Miguna,
Now that the book is gone viral on the World Wide Web and the convenience of able to download as PDF. Can MM (for Miguna Miguna not Musalia Mudavadi)allow me to download and pay him a nominal fee? How much is the electronic one since I want it now and willing to pay something now?
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Post by genius on Jul 19, 2012 16:20:28 GMT 3
Honestly if you didn't find Tracy's message to Miguna funny then you lack a sense of humour:
"MR MIGUNA WE WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.WE NEED YOUR KIDNEY.SAHIZI TUTAKUTUMIA MAJINI ZA MOMBASA" Sent from my Nokia phone.”
LOL
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 19, 2012 16:48:50 GMT 3
Adongo:
Burning effigies is not an unknown form of expressing displeasure, although in most places people seem to reserve it for high figures. For example, a couple of years ago, some university students burned an effigy of the UK, and it was considered perfectly legal. I also recall that in your own adopted country of Canada, one or two prime ministers have had that "treatment", with a "burial" for one, and, if I recall correctly, it was considered perfectly legal.
I know Kenyan laws are different, but it seems highly unlikely that people broke the law on just that basis. (I note that you did not actually claim that they did.)
That said, I imagine it must be very distressful for Miguna and his relatives, and we sympathize with them. I also agree that Outa acted in a foolish and irresponsible manner.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 19, 2012 17:38:32 GMT 3
Honestly if you didn't find Tracy's message to Miguna funny then you lack a sense of humour: "MR MIGUNA WE WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.WE NEED YOUR KIDNEY.SAHIZI TUTAKUTUMIA MAJINI ZA MOMBASA" Sent from my Nokia phone.” LOL Maybe the assassin is also a cannibal or has a kidney problem. ;D
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Post by roughrider on Jul 19, 2012 19:01:43 GMT 3
A STATEMENT ABOUT THREATS TO MY LIFE BY MIGUNA MIGUNA At about 3:45pm (Kenyan time) today, I received an email from a Tracy.Wambui@ovi.com stating: “To Miguna MR MIGUNA WE WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.WE NEED YOUR KIDNEY.SAHIZI TUTAKUTUMIA MAJINI ZA MOMBASA Sent from my Nokia phone.” I do not know who this person is. I have never communicated with her/him. Following barely a day after the chilling one party type demonstrations against me led by the ODM MP for Nyando, Fred Outa, in Ahero, in which they not only burnt my effigy, but also participated in a mock burial of a coffin, it is clear that the Prime Minister Raila Odinga and his supporters have resolved to engage in physical, emotional, psychological and other attacks in order not just to divert attention from the issues raised in my book; their intention is also to permanently silence dissent and kill debate. Suppression of dissent. Muzzling one’s opponents. Threats of assassinations. Personal attacks. These cannot be good for the rule of law, constitutionalism and good governance. They are not traits one can associate with a person who claims to be the best reformer in the country. Eerily, Raila Odinga and his campaign secretariat have been DIRECTLY linked to these acts of hooliganism and lawlessness. None other than his deputy patron of Friends of Raila (FORA) lobby group, Gitobu Imanyara, addressed a press conference to hurl epithets at me and scandalise my name. He claimed, falsely, that I was a “fugitive from justice” even though I have not been charged with any criminal offence. The same day – and in what is clearly a coordinated attack – Raila’s long-standing speech-writer and consultant, Sarah Elderkin, released a broadside against me and accused me of all manner of things without any substantiation. Readers will recall that Sarah’s opinion of me is contained in pages 496-498 of my book. Morever, she wasn't present at the meetings she purports to report on and not privy to the discussions. How can she then refute things she is ignorant of? Raila should come out in the open and confront the facts in my book. He cannot hide behind Caroli Omondi, Sarah Elderkin, Gitobu Imanyara and many other busy bodies who Kenyans haven't bestowed the title of “Prime Minister” on. Raila is DIRECTLY accountable to the people of Kenya, including me. He cannot hide forever as the truth has a stubborn way of curling against the culture of impunity. Finally, I appeal to the Commissioner of Police, Mr. Mathew Iteere, the CID Director and the Director General of the National Security Service, Mr. Gichangi, to thoroughly and expeditiously investigate the threat against me and apprehend the people behind them and have them prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Otherwise, I shall not not be cowed or muzzled. The struggle will and must continue. Miguna Miguna Dated this 18th day of July 2012 at the City of Toronto. Hi ni Ujinga. Upuzi response. Miguna himself, when he was a ‘Raila man’ required no instructions to act for Raila. He could easily 'kill' for Raila even when Raila had not sent him. Ati Sarah Elderkin was not at meetings? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what a High Court judge said about Miguna’s mental and emotional state? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about working for Raila for six years? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna did NOT pay for any plane tickets during the trip that went up to Minnesota? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna disrupted a Rome Statute meeting in Uganda and was the object of a formal complaint? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Quarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna was let free of serious rape charges after a technicality? And that subsequently Miguna sued everyone on site, including the Queen? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what PWC found out in their reports into the maize scandal? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Wenwa Akinyi is actually a prof of chemistry who was always on lists to be appointed envoy? Or that Midiwo was actually elected 'Chief Whip'? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Qiarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? And Sarah's conclusion must have sent Miguna into paroxysms, Raila will not be bothered to respond to a madman:
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Post by joblesscorner on Jul 19, 2012 19:06:36 GMT 3
Adongo, You should share some pics from Bondo, and btw who is the guy running for Nairobi Governorship. I think Nairobi will hard to win unless you have some ksh ksh ksh. Folks,I just woke up from the farm house in Bondo town. With the miracle of technology I can now access internet and pretty much interact with the world whole right from here. It is fun to be online even as you watch chicken running amok and gaze at the stretching farm with the kids still snoring behind in their room after stubbornly refusing to sleep in time last night with all the excitement. Those are my humble questions from my humble simba here in Bondo. Have a good time in Toronto, my new home town.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 19, 2012 20:13:49 GMT 3
Comrade Oloo: I found this quite funny: "addressed a press conference to hurl epithets at me and scandalise my name". I don't know why it made me chuckle so much. Tell your friend to relax and enjoy his vacation. I hear that Canada is having one heck of a summer, and it would be a shame to waste it on fights conducted via the media. If he is not into booze or weed, this might be the time to try a little of both---but not to go as far as a leading presidential candidate. Moderation in all things is the key to a happy life. (..) otishotish! excuse me man! Why? have you no respect for Oraro the lawyer? I think he is deep, and empowered by the deep pockets of angry Karoli, themselves limitless with the proceeds of contraband transactions, he can 'afford' to indulge the law very deeply! I therefore would think Miguna on holiday, is himself a sacrificial lamb accepting his fate at the altar! No no no, otishotish, cosy summer tans in carefree Canada is wrong advice! If Miguna wants to teach Oraro and his associates some law, {come baby wont you come ai yawa} I suggest he gets to work, and at the uttermost of his renowned work ethics. (And there you are wishing him a 'nice saunter in slacks, ogling all those shaved legs for the season, in the wonderful Canadian summer this year!) No, with the new constitution, I expect Miguna to find some clause which works like the famous pimp-clause in some countries. It is illegal to make a living from the proceeds of pimping. Interpolated currently after the banking crisis in the West, a lawyer who knowingly, while defending an accused tax-dodger, accepts remuneration from those funds will be 'arraigned' under the 'anti-pimping 'clause. (The only way to escape is to win the case, or cut a deal!)#The German tax department has been the worst offender in this guerilla tactic of blackmail, and have uncovered over 2 million offshore accounts especially in Luxembourg)! So may be Miguna can ward off Oraro under such a clause, be it have been smuggled in but not yet found and edited by Amos Githu Wako Muigai! GENERAL INTEREST: There is a test case in which an extremely brilliant lawyer was caught off guard by a TV journalist. He is representing a renowned mafia don, but the don has declared himself penniless. "Who is paying you? or do I believe you are doing this pro-bono, out of good heart?' the journalist asked the lawyer all of a sudden. To everybodys amazement, the slick, analytically and verbally very competent fella who has never been tongue-tied, hesitated, seemed lost, looked embarrassed and sweated. 'I can see the guy is as rich as hell ---he can afford you, and you have advised him to declare bankruptcy! In this times of economic crisis am calling for your arrest now, you pimp!' I am just saying. Either Miguna goes to work on that constitution, or he will be picking lice off his fat at Kamiti maximum. And Karoli will gladly pay the guards to feed him his own excrement. When you have been around, you know what goes! And it aint always a joke!
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Post by phil on Jul 19, 2012 20:26:30 GMT 3
Hi ni Ujinga. Upuzi response. Miguna himself, when he was a �Raila man� required no instructions to act for Raila. He could easily 'kill' for Raila even when Raila had not sent him. Ati Sarah Elderkin was not at meetings? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what a High Court judge said about Miguna�s mental and emotional state? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about working for Raila for six years? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna did NOT pay for any plane tickets during the trip that went up to Minnesota? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna disrupted a Rome Statute meeting in Uganda and was the object of a formal complaint? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the �private� meeting between Patrick Quarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna was let free of serious rape charges after a technicality? And that subsequently Miguna sued everyone on site, including the Queen? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what PWC found out in their reports into the maize scandal? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Wenwa Akinyi is actually a prof of chemistry who was always on lists to be appointed envoy? Or that Midiwo was actually elected 'Chief Whip'? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the �private� meeting between Patrick Qiarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? And Sarah's conclusion must have sent Miguna into paroxysms, Raila will not be bothered to respond to a madman: Does anyone really think a whole Prime Minister is going to debase himself by personally responding to the rantings, innuendo, gross inaccuracies, false claims and insults of a man like Miguna? Very Well said asked My friend!!! You can bet your last kobole, you wont be getting any straight forward counter answers to these pertinent questions. Bure kabisa hawa watu.
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Post by tnk on Jul 19, 2012 20:45:40 GMT 3
Hi ni Ujinga. Upuzi response. Miguna himself, when he was a ‘Raila man’ required no instructions to act for Raila. He could easily 'kill' for Raila even when Raila had not sent him. Ati Sarah Elderkin was not at meetings? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what a High Court judge said about Miguna’s mental and emotional state? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about working for Raila for six years? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna did NOT pay for any plane tickets during the trip that went up to Minnesota? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna disrupted a Rome Statute meeting in Uganda and was the object of a formal complaint? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Quarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna was let free of serious rape charges after a technicality? And that subsequently Miguna sued everyone on site, including the Queen? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what PWC found out in their reports into the maize scandal? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Wenwa Akinyi is actually a prof of chemistry who was always on lists to be appointed envoy? Or that Midiwo was actually elected 'Chief Whip'? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Qiarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? And Sarah's conclusion must have sent Miguna into paroxysms, Raila will not be bothered to respond to a madman: well well, watch out otherwise someone will get labeled "clueless"? check this article out run baby run
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Post by b6k on Jul 19, 2012 20:57:55 GMT 3
A STATEMENT ABOUT THREATS TO MY LIFE BY MIGUNA MIGUNA At about 3:45pm (Kenyan time) today, I received an email from a Tracy.Wambui@ovi.com stating: “To Miguna MR MIGUNA WE WILL KILL YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK.WE NEED YOUR KIDNEY.SAHIZI TUTAKUTUMIA MAJINI ZA MOMBASA Sent from my Nokia phone.” I do not know who this person is. I have never communicated with her/him. Following barely a day after the chilling one party type demonstrations against me led by the ODM MP for Nyando, Fred Outa, in Ahero, in which they not only burnt my effigy, but also participated in a mock burial of a coffin, it is clear that the Prime Minister Raila Odinga and his supporters have resolved to engage in physical, emotional, psychological and other attacks in order not just to divert attention from the issues raised in my book; their intention is also to permanently silence dissent and kill debate. Suppression of dissent. Muzzling one’s opponents. Threats of assassinations. Personal attacks. These cannot be good for the rule of law, constitutionalism and good governance. They are not traits one can associate with a person who claims to be the best reformer in the country. Eerily, Raila Odinga and his campaign secretariat have been DIRECTLY linked to these acts of hooliganism and lawlessness. None other than his deputy patron of Friends of Raila (FORA) lobby group, Gitobu Imanyara, addressed a press conference to hurl epithets at me and scandalise my name. He claimed, falsely, that I was a “fugitive from justice” even though I have not been charged with any criminal offence. The same day – and in what is clearly a coordinated attack – Raila’s long-standing speech-writer and consultant, Sarah Elderkin, released a broadside against me and accused me of all manner of things without any substantiation. Readers will recall that Sarah’s opinion of me is contained in pages 496-498 of my book. Morever, she wasn't present at the meetings she purports to report on and not privy to the discussions. How can she then refute things she is ignorant of? Raila should come out in the open and confront the facts in my book. He cannot hide behind Caroli Omondi, Sarah Elderkin, Gitobu Imanyara and many other busy bodies who Kenyans haven't bestowed the title of “Prime Minister” on. Raila is DIRECTLY accountable to the people of Kenya, including me. He cannot hide forever as the truth has a stubborn way of curling against the culture of impunity. Finally, I appeal to the Commissioner of Police, Mr. Mathew Iteere, the CID Director and the Director General of the National Security Service, Mr. Gichangi, to thoroughly and expeditiously investigate the threat against me and apprehend the people behind them and have them prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Otherwise, I shall not not be cowed or muzzled. The struggle will and must continue. Miguna Miguna Dated this 18th day of July 2012 at the City of Toronto. Hi ni Ujinga. Upuzi response. Miguna himself, when he was a ‘Raila man’ required no instructions to act for Raila. He could easily 'kill' for Raila even when Raila had not sent him. Ati Sarah Elderkin was not at meetings? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what a High Court judge said about Miguna’s mental and emotional state? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about working for Raila for six years? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna did NOT pay for any plane tickets during the trip that went up to Minnesota? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna disrupted a Rome Statute meeting in Uganda and was the object of a formal complaint? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Quarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna was let free of serious rape charges after a technicality? And that subsequently Miguna sued everyone on site, including the Queen? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know what PWC found out in their reports into the maize scandal? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Wenwa Akinyi is actually a prof of chemistry who was always on lists to be appointed envoy? Or that Midiwo was actually elected 'Chief Whip'? Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna lied about what transpired in the ‘private’ meeting between Patrick Qiarrcoo, Raila and Miguna? And Sarah's conclusion must have sent Miguna into paroxysms, Raila will not be bothered to respond to a madman: RRYou will get answers to some of your questions in these two videos, labelled "Janyando Rants". The 27 minutes or so footage was edited down to the 9 minutes that aired on Newsmakers...
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Post by joblesscorner on Jul 19, 2012 21:14:07 GMT 3
A STATEMENT ABOUT THREATS TO MY LIFE BY MIGUNA MIGUNA Does Sarah Elderkin need to be at meetings to know that Miguna did NOT pay for any plane tickets during the trip that went up to Minnesota? Rough Rider... What is the Deal with you and Shebesh Pictures? I'll clear what went down in February 2007 tomorrow when I get time, I was one of the organizers.
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