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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 26, 2013 13:40:56 GMT 3
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Post by mangai on Feb 26, 2013 13:48:05 GMT 3
Sad to some, but actually the truth. Hope he is not forced to retract this endorsement... elections.nation.co.ke/news/ICC-suspect-Sang-endorses-Raila/-/1631868/1705024/-/th0rt1/-/index.htmlInternational Criminal Court suspect and former radio journalist Joshua arap Sang has endorsed Cord's presidential candidate Raila Odinga ahead of the general elections next Monday. Mr Sang, according to a statement from the Prime Minister's office, dismissed the Jubilee coalition between Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto as incapable of bringing peace between the Kikuyu and the Kalenjin who have fought during elections since 1992. The endorsement marks a breakaway between Mr Sang and his fellow suspects at the International Criminal Court Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto. The three face various counts of crimes against humanity committed at the height of the 2007 - 2008 post-election violence. In a recorded message to air on radio, Mr Sang says that it is only a president who is not a Kalenjin or a Kikuyu who can bring peace between the two communities. Mr Sang says he recorded the message because of “heavy feelings in my heart.”. In his message, Mr Sang also dismisses as lies the perception in Rift Valley that it was Mr Odinga who sent him to The Hague. He claims that senior government officials who were in office before the formation of the coalition had coached witnesses to testify against him and Mr Ruto in the case at the ICC. “We are away in a foreign land with my brother because of allegations made against us. The truth must be told. In my opinion, the people who masterminded and planned to have me and my brother taken to The Hague did not include Raila Odinga,” Mr Sang says in the recorded message. Mr Sang appeals to the Kalenjin community not to trust the power sharing deal in the Jubilee coalition, saying such agreements have twice been disowned after elections. He cites the MOU signed between Mr Odinga and Mr Kibaki in 2002 and the 2007 power sharing deal that brought the Grand Coalition Government into force as instances of broken promises that should make residents of the Rift Valley wary of the deal between Mr Ruto and Mr Uhuru. “Today, some of our people want us to enter into an MOU again through Jubilee. They never respected the MOU signed in 2002 and the power sharing deal agreed on in 2007. Why should we expect that the one our community has signed in Jubilee will be respected,” Mr Sang says in a recorded message set to air on radio. According to Mr Sang, the doubts whether the pact between Mr Ruto and Mr Uhuru will fare any better. He says that although President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga were supposed to share power on a 50-50 basis, it never really happened and only one side of the coalition ran the country. |
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2013 13:54:58 GMT 3
Ladies and gents,
Forget about the debates and any other thing that has been said on the campaign trial. This utterance by Mr. Sang, especially at this hour will be a major game changer. The message to be broadcast via KASS FM will completely change the political landscape in Kalenjinland. Believe it or not, this is one thing that many Kalenjins have been whispering about but had not had the fortitude to say aloud.
There is no way on earth an MOU between Uhuru and Ruto will bring peace to the RVP. Land is a major issue of conflicts in the rift and Kenyatta has plenty of it in that province. Infact he has so much he is ashamed of uttering the size (you all heard him in last nights debate). Because of the above HE should have had the most concrete plan for land. Lakini wapi.
Truth is finally coming out.
What a sucker punch to Uhuru Kenyatta at the last minute.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 26, 2013 14:22:10 GMT 3
Guys ,
This is now becoming desperate Sang is not a politician nor a political player and doesnt have command over the Riftvalley electorate and thus cannot influence any voting patern in that region.Heck If former President Moi tried and failed in 2007 and is failing as we speak what about Sang? .
CORD/ODM tried to use Henry Kosgey (a seasoned politician ) and Sally Kosgei () but it did not bore fruits and actually both of them are in their political death beds and for this reason they are listed as party nominees back to parliament as its evident they wont make it back during the elections ,same with Franklin Bett he had to actually give up politics not to mention the various Mps and politicians who defected from ODM to URP aka the Labosos and Beatrice Kones.
Sang goes ahead and says that only a non Kalenjin or non Kikuyu President will bring peace in RIftvalley, this is misguided as we have witnessed ourselves that the political partnership between the two communities in the last 5 years or so has averted violence and displacements which were a routine thing especially during the electioneering period since the introduction of multi-partysim . What now needs to be looked at are long-term solutions to make sure the peace in that region is long lasting with land issue being a major player and the Jubilee coalition under its manifesto has solutions to the land issue and once the land issue is resolved it will never be used by politicians to incite wananchi to fight each other as we witnessed in 2007.
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Post by mangai on Feb 26, 2013 14:36:24 GMT 3
Guys , This is now becoming desperate Sang is not a politician nor a political player and doesnt have command over the Riftvalley electorate and thus cannot influence any voting patern in that region.Heck If former President Moi tried and failed in 2007 and is failing as we speak what about Sang? . CORD/ODM tried to use Henry Kosgey (a seasoned politician ) and Sally Kosgei () but it did not bore fruits and actually both of them are in their political death beds and for this reason they are listed as party nominees back to parliament as its evident they wont make it back during the elections ,same with Franklin Bett he had to actually give up politics not to mention the various Mps and politicians who defected from ODM to URP aka the Labosos and Beatrice Kones. Sang goes ahead and says that only a non Kalenjin or non Kikuyu President will bring peace in RIftvalley, this is misguided as we have witnessed ourselves that the political partnership between the two communities in the last 5 years or so has averted violence and displacements which were a routine thing especially during the electioneering period since the introduction of multi-partysim . What now needs to be looked at are long-term solutions to make sure the peace in that region is long lasting with land issue being a major player and the Jubilee coalition under its manifesto has solutions to the land issue and once the land issue is resolved it will never be used by politicians to incite wananchi to fight each other as we witnessed in 2007. Whatever Sang has said is the sad reality, especially on the issue of ICC. We for instance know those who labelled Ruto a warlord at the height of post election violence. It was not Raila or ODM. That record has to be set straight because the numerous lies that have been told about Raila shipping people to the Hague sound plain stupid. |
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Post by mugabe on Feb 26, 2013 15:09:07 GMT 3
Over to Mwalimumtukutu who would like us to believe that he alone what is going in mashinani
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2013 15:19:46 GMT 3
Guys , This is now becoming desperate Sang is not a politician nor a political player and doesnt have command over the Riftvalley electorate and thus cannot influence any voting patern in that region.Heck If former President Moi tried and failed in 2007 and is failing as we speak what about Sang? . CORD/ODM tried to use Henry Kosgey (a seasoned politician ) and Sally Kosgei () but it did not bore fruits and actually both of them are in their political death beds and for this reason they are listed as party nominees back to parliament as its evident they wont make it back during the elections ,same with Franklin Bett he had to actually give up politics not to mention the various Mps and politicians who defected from ODM to URP aka the Labosos and Beatrice Kones. Sang goes ahead and says that only a non Kalenjin or non Kikuyu President will bring peace in RIftvalley, this is misguided as we have witnessed ourselves that the political partnership between the two communities in the last 5 years or so has averted violence and displacements which were a routine thing especially during the electioneering period since the introduction of multi-partysim . What now needs to be looked at are long-term solutions to make sure the peace in that region is long lasting with land issue being a major player and the Jubilee coalition under its manifesto has solutions to the land issue and once the land issue is resolved it will never be used by politicians to incite wananchi to fight each other as we witnessed in 2007. I guess that you are too much in a shock to get it. Look at it this way, out of three suspects from the former RVP two have owned up and said that it was not Raila Odinga who ferried them to the ICC. You could argue that Kosgey is a politician and ODM chairman hence his change of heart. That cannot be said of Sang whom you rightly say is not a politician. In other words, he has nothing to gain by telling blatant lies. Apart from that, he must by now have seen and understood the process that led them to the Hague and saw that Raila was nowhere near it. This leaves only Ruto the William to hold onto the lie that it was Raila who ferried him to the Hague, conveniently forgetting that his mate (UK) probably perused all the evidence against him (Ruto) before it was sent to Ocampo. Afterall it was NSIS and the like who pinned him to the violence. Remember that neither Ali or Muthaura ever claimed that it was Raila who took them to the Hague. The thing is that only Ruto holds to the wild and baseless allegations. Be the judge if he could also be the only one who is right? But before that look at his background including the Yator land case. Then come back to me. The truth will finally even if slowly come out. |
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Post by mugabe on Feb 26, 2013 15:28:40 GMT 3
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Post by Dumekenya on Feb 26, 2013 15:58:58 GMT 3
And may the game begin.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 26, 2013 17:21:31 GMT 3
Guys , This is now becoming desperate Sang is not a politician nor a political player and doesnt have command over the Riftvalley electorate and thus cannot influence any voting patern in that region.Heck If former President Moi tried and failed in 2007 and is failing as we speak what about Sang? . CORD/ODM tried to use Henry Kosgey (a seasoned politician ) and Sally Kosgei () but it did not bore fruits and actually both of them are in their political death beds and for this reason they are listed as party nominees back to parliament as its evident they wont make it back during the elections ,same with Franklin Bett he had to actually give up politics not to mention the various Mps and politicians who defected from ODM to URP aka the Labosos and Beatrice Kones. Sang goes ahead and says that only a non Kalenjin or non Kikuyu President will bring peace in RIftvalley, this is misguided as we have witnessed ourselves that the political partnership between the two communities in the last 5 years or so has averted violence and displacements which were a routine thing especially during the electioneering period since the introduction of multi-partysim . What now needs to be looked at are long-term solutions to make sure the peace in that region is long lasting with land issue being a major player and the Jubilee coalition under its manifesto has solutions to the land issue and once the land issue is resolved it will never be used by politicians to incite wananchi to fight each other as we witnessed in 2007. I guess that you are too much in a shock to get it. Look at it this way, out of three suspects from the former RVP two have owned up and said that it was not Raila Odinga who ferried them to the ICC. You could argue that Kosgey is a politician and ODM chairman hence his change of heart. That cannot be said of Sang whom you rightly say is not a politician. In other words, he has nothing to gain by telling blatant lies. Apart from that, he must by now have seen and understood the process that led them to the Hague and saw that Raila was nowhere near it. This leaves only Ruto the William to hold onto the lie that it was Raila who ferried him to the Hague, conveniently forgetting that his mate (UK) probably perused all the evidence against him (Ruto) before it was sent to Ocampo. Afterall it was NSIS and the like who pinned him to the violence. Remember that neither Ali or Muthaura ever claimed that it was Raila who took them to the Hague. The thing is that only Ruto holds to the wild and baseless allegations. Be the judge if he could also be the only one who is right? But before that look at his background including the Yator land case. Then come back to me. The truth will finally even if slowly come out. Mzee here is your initial post on the subject matter -> You insisted that this announcement will be a game changer and tilt the political landscape in Kalenjinland as you put it. Ladies and gents, Forget about the debates and any other thing that has been said on the campaign trial. This utterance by Mr. Sang, especially at this hour will be a major game changer. The message to be broadcast via KASS FM will completely change the political landscape in Kalenjinland. Believe it or not, this is one thing that many Kalenjins have been whispering about but had not had the fortitude to say aloud. There is no way on earth an MOU between Uhuru and Ruto will bring peace to the RVP. Land is a major issue of conflicts in the rift and Kenyatta has plenty of it in that province. Infact he has so much he is ashamed of uttering the size (you all heard him in last nights debate). Because of the above HE should have had the most concrete plan for land. Lakini wapi. Truth is finally coming out. What a sucker punch to Uhuru Kenyatta at the last minute. How this has changed to William Ruto cheated , William Ruto is a liar, William Ruto Yator case,Uhuru Kenyatta perused evidence on William Ruto before being passed to Ocampo just goes to explain how CORD/ODM has lost the plot and are now clutching at straws and this is a futile attempt to woo back the Riftvalley vote not mentioning that this announcement has come from the Prime Ministers Office. We have extensively discussed the ICC matter here in Jukwaa and how the Ocampo 6 ended up in ICC . Let me jog your memory as your presidential candidate likes saying . Ocampo relied heavily on the Maina Kiai and Omar Hassan(ODM affiliates ) KNCHR reports on the post election violence instead of doing thorough independent investigations-Its now clear with the hassle Bensouda is going through that the investigations were shoddy and pegged on hearsay. ODM further through their secretary general Anyang Nyongo wrote a letter to UN security Council regarding the Cases at ICC on reasons why the Cases should not be Differed nor Reffered to Kenya which eventually jolted the bid to bring back the cases to Kenya. -Remember this www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2011/03/odm-letter-jolts-deferral-bid/www.capitalfm.co.ke/eblog/2011/03/14/petition-to-un-security-council-regarding-kenyan-cases-at-the-icc/Petition to UN Security Council regarding Kenyan cases at the ICC Posted by Opinion Leaders on March 14, 2011 BY ANYANG NYONGO It is my pleasure and privilege to refer to the ongoing International Criminal Court proceedings relating to Kenya and the deferral request made by a section of the Government of Kenya to the United Nations Security Council. Background: The Permanent Mission of the Republic of Kenya presented to the United Nations and to all the Permanent and Observer Missions to the United Nations an Aide Memoire titled “Kenya’s Reform Agenda and Engagement with International Criminal Court (ICC)”. Kenya’s Vice-President, H.E. Kalonzo Musyoka has led a delegation to the UN Secretary General to discuss the Aide Memoire, alongside the Communiqué of the 17th Extra-Ordinary Session of the IGAD Assembly of Heads of State and Government on Sudan, Somalia and Kenya, and the African Union Decision on the Implementation of the Decisions on the International Criminal Court on the deferral/referral of the Kenyan Cases at the ICC. It is important for the UN Members, the Security Council and Secretary-General to have a complete picture and understanding of the situation in Kenya before making any determination on the Aide Memoire from President Kibaki. This petition presents a set of incontrovertible facts which will assist The Security Council and other interested parties to understand why the Kenyan Cases at the ICC should neither be deferred nor referred. These facts justify why the ongoing ICC process is the best and only means of securing justice to the innocent victims of Kenya’s post election violence of 2007/8. It is imperative to underline the fact that the institutions, groups and individuals that were allegedly involved in the planning and execution of the crimes against humanity during the 2007/8 post-election violence in Kenya continue to operate unfettered and occupy important positions of power within and outside government. Sixteen Reasons Why the Kenyan Cases at the ICC must neither be Deferred nor Referred to Kenya: • The prosecution of the Kenyan Cases at the ICC does not pose any threat to international peace and security. To the contrary, failure to bring to justice the perpetrators of post-election violence poses grave danger to Kenya’s internal peace and security. • The ICC process was unanimously approved by the two parties under the Annan-brokered National Accord, and the instruments that paved the way for the process were signed by both the President and the Prime Minister for and on behalf of their respective political parties, which form a coalition. • The great majority of Kenyans (more than eighty per cent) support the ICC process as the most credible method to fighting the culture of impunity in Kenya. Surveys by leading institutions in the country have repeatedly confirmed this position. • Local (Kenyan) trials will be exposed to: o political manipulation by leaders pleading the ethnic card; o Threats to witnesses, their families and friends. Indeed, many witnesses have been hunted down and killed by State security agents; and o Undue delays engineered by frivolous and vexatious applications. • Local trials are not possible at the moment as there is no national judicial mechanism in place to handle the cases. There have been no investigations and prosecutions since the crimes were committed more than three years ago. Moreover, the criminal justice system has not been reformed to enable it to handle the cases. Although Kenya has enacted the International Crimes Act, it is in doubt as to whether Kenyan courts have jurisdiction over the international crimes committed before January 2009 when the Act became operational. • The judicial reforms contemplated under the new Constitution have not been implemented. The judges and magistrates have not been vetted. There is no independent prosecutorial authority. • The involvement of the ICC was necessitated by Kenya’s rejection to establish a national judicial mechanism to deal with the crimes committed. In fact, the Government of Kenya repeatedly made verbal and written commitments to cooperate with the ICC and indicated that if it was unable to prosecute the perpetrators of the 2007/08 post election violence by September 2009, the ICC should do so. Those written and public commitments were made by the Government to the ICC Prosecutor both at The Hague and during his official visits to Nairobi. • Local trials will be used to shield the suspects from justice. This was recently demonstrated by the nominations of Mr. Githu Muigai and Mr. Kioko Kilukumi to the positions of Attorney-General and Director of Public Prosecutions, respectively, while they are on record as lawyers for two of the ICC suspects. In addition, an ICC suspect chaired the Panel that identified and nominated Justice Visram to the position of new Chief Justice. Although President Kibaki was forced to withdraw his nominations through public outcry, a court order and stinging resolutions of the National Assembly Speaker, the Judicial Service Commission, the Commission on the Implementation of the Constitution, the Law Society of Kenya, the Federation of Women Lawyers and nearly all Kenyan civil society groups; it demonstrated the extent to which President Kibaki’s Party of National Unity and the six individuals summoned by the ICC would go to defeat the cause of justice. • The request for a deferral of the Kenyan cases pending before the ICC has been made by one side of the Kenyan coalition government, namely the Party of National Unity headed by President Mwai Kibaki. The Orange Democratic Movement headed by the Prime Minister Raila Odinga, does not support that request. • Because of the significant positions held in and influence the suspects wield within Government, they are the ones spearheading the deferral request as a means of defeating the cause of justice. Ultimately, the six suspects the ICC has summoned intend to use the deferral, if granted, as the basis of perpetuating the culture of impunity in Kenya. • The deferral request should therefore be seen as evidence that the Party of National Unity and President Mwai Kibaki are both unwilling and unable to prosecute the six suspects for the crimes alleged by the ICC. • Since 1992, each general election has been characterized by state sponsored violence and ethnic cleansings leading to mass deaths, evictions, rapes and arson. While there have been official judicial inquiries on these crimes, no prosecutions have ever been conducted, and no culprits have been punished. • Extra-judicial killings have increased significantly since 2003. The United Nations Special Rapporteur on Human Rights, Prof. Philip Alston has investigated and made far-reaching findings and recommendations. However, the Government has not taken any action. • Both the Cabinet and Kenyan Parliament have on more than two occasions rejected Bills for the establishment of a local tribunal for the cases and instead declared that the trials should be held at The Hague. • The ICC process is the only opportunity that Kenyans have to break the culture of impunity and the circle of elections-related violence. • In view of the foregoing the request for deferral does not qualify or merit consideration by the UN Security Council within the provisions of Article 16 of the Rome Statute, or through any other provisions. This is particularly the case because the Kenyan Situation at the ICC was not originated by a referral by the UN Security Council. Consequently, the request for a deferral is an unwarranted interference with the Court’s mandate, its independence and impartiality. We therefore submit that the request for a deferral by a section of the Kenyan Government be rejected as being incompetent and frivolous. On behalf of the Orange Democratic Movement and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Kenya, The Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga, EGH, MP, I would like to request you to bring this letter to the attention of all Council Members of the Security Council and to have it issued as a document of the Council, as a matter of great urgency. Please accept, Your Excellency, the assurances of my highest consideration. (Anyang\’ Nyong\’o is the Secretary General, Orange Democratic Movement) Read more: jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7505&page=3#ixzz2M0zHP0at |
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Post by b6k on Feb 26, 2013 17:25:18 GMT 3
Interesting development. I suppose by endorsing Raila this now makes Sang a "good" indictee....
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 26, 2013 17:54:30 GMT 3
Here are some random, possibly even useless ramblings gathered from the streets of Nairobi earlier this February 26th afternoon:
I was hanging out around Kimathi Street near the statue. I suddenly saw one of my activist friends, Ms. Flora K, who emanates from the Meru region. I casually mentioned the Sang breaking story.
She told me she had just come back to Nairobi from somewhere in the former Rift Valley Province where she is a frequent visitor.
She asked me, "Do you know what our sisters and brothers from the region are saying?"
I shook my head, befuddled.
They are saying, "Kichwa ni ya baba, mwili ni URP".[The head is for the father, the body belongs to URP."]
What does that mean, I persisted.
It is a coded way of saying, URP will sweep the Governor, Senator, National Assembly, Women Rep and Ward Rep slots. But they are voting in Raila Odinga as the fourth President.
Flora, by the way, is a die hard, hard core CORD flag waver.
Make of the above what you will.
Onyango Oloo
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Post by mzee on Feb 26, 2013 17:57:51 GMT 3
OO,
Thats the way it will go down. And Im a hard core, CORD damu person.
Its Baba all the way to statehouse.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 26, 2013 18:03:56 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 26, 2013 18:09:59 GMT 3
Here are some random, possibly even useless ramblings gathered from the streets of Nairobi earlier this February 26th afternoon:I was hanging out around Kimathi Street near the statue. I suddenly saw one of my activist friends, Ms. Flora K, who emanates from the Meru region. I casually mentioned the Sang breaking story. She told me she had just come back to Nairobi from somewhere in the former Rift Valley Province where she is a frequent visitor. She asked me, " Do you know what our sisters and brothers from the region are saying?"I shook my head, befuddled. They are saying, "Kichwa ni ya baba, mwili ni URP".[The head is for the father, the body belongs to URP."]What does that mean, I persisted. It is a coded way of saying, URP will sweep the Governor, Senator, National Assembly, Women Rep and Ward Rep slots. But they are voting in Raila Odinga as the fourth President.Flora, by the way, is a die hard, hard core CORD flag waver. Make of the above what you will. Onyango Oloo Oloo, This is a propaganda which has been peddled for a minute now . I heard it here in Nairobi in a local pub once the Jubilee alliance was unveiled. It was being peddled by an ODM supporter who does not come from Riftvalley region but boasts of frequently visiting that area , this is what he had to say "Wanasema - Miguu mpaka shingo ni URP lakini kichwa watafikiria na Kichwa " Met him on the same spot once again a couple days ago and asked him on any update of R-valley politics this is what he had to say -Nimechoka nahizi siasa tungojee tarehe tano -I assented with him and tossed for Mar 04 .Likewise I hope we will all be jubilant when results start trickling in . |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 26, 2013 18:12:37 GMT 3
Here are some random, possibly even useless ramblings gathered from the streets of Nairobi earlier this February 26th afternoon:I was hanging out around Kimathi Street near the statue. I suddenly saw one of my activist friends, Ms. Flora K, who emanates from the Meru region. I casually mentioned the Sang breaking story. She told me she had just come back to Nairobi from somewhere in the former Rift Valley Province where she is a frequent visitor. She asked me, " Do you know what our sisters and brothers from the region are saying?"I shook my head, befuddled. They are saying, "Kichwa ni ya baba, mwili ni URP".[The head is for the father, the body belongs to URP."]What does that mean, I persisted. It is a coded way of saying, URP will sweep the Governor, Senator, National Assembly, Women Rep and Ward Rep slots. But they are voting in Raila Odinga as the fourth President.Flora, by the way, is a die hard, hard core CORD flag waver. Make of the above what you will. Onyango Oloo Hahahaaa OO, whats your take on that? Did you buy the story? This is a campaign strategy that CORD has tried to adopt after it became very clear to them URP has left no space for anyone, not even KANU. Unfortunately for them, it is not flying. You see, the problem in RV is not ODM or CORD, NO. It is Raila Odinga the man, full stop. No one trusts him, no one wants to repeat the mistake of 07. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Feb 26, 2013 18:17:08 GMT 3
Over to Mwalimumtukutu who would like us to believe that he alone what is going in mashinani Joshua Sang has only one vote and ZERO influence on the RV electorate. So do the math. Rumors had been doing the rounds especially after he dropped out the senate race that Raila had approached him and promised him that he would help him out of the ICC just as he had helped Koskei. To some of us therefore, this did not come as a surprise, in fact it is long overdue. |
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Post by bkichwa on Feb 26, 2013 18:33:57 GMT 3
Even I have my sources on the ground in RV (but do I say)  What they are saying: 1. Sang is bitter about not being in a position to hold public office (does anyone know why he stepped down from the race?). He has been given money to take this position in a bid to help CORD in RV. 2. Ruto is still very strong in RV. Sang's or any other issues coming up won't sway the presidential vote away from Jubilee. 3. In areas like Baringo where some are saying Ruto is in trouble, the people are actually telling him to drop his insistence on 6-piece voting. They are telling him that Jubilee has their vote for presidency, but the other seats they say they want to have a free hand at selecting whoever they please be they from URP or other parties. Case in point, Gideon Moi is looking like he could very well bag the Baringo Senate seat. But like I always say, March 4th is but a few days away and we shall very soon see the real "lay of the land" if you will. |
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Post by Sam Ochola on Feb 26, 2013 19:38:20 GMT 3
kongoi we arap sang! In a single twist this guy has delivered a killer punch to the hyenas of biik ab tulwet. . As we all know, the only guaranteed Jubilee life-line outside Lesotho is the Kalenjin votes which is cemented by a retinue of propaganda revolving the ICC. Two out of the three Kalenjins taken to the Hague have now come out & clearly put the truth bare; Raila did not take them there, it is Uhuru's tribal State machinery (PNU 2008) that conspired on them. The shift leaves Ruto, the William as the only one doing the devil dance for 30 pieces of silver. Sang's message & its timing has potential for huge ripple effect on the Kalenjin voters. Even those in denial are aware of a subterranean doubt lingering across the Kalenjin nation with regards to Ruto's mountain deal; the Achicha wendi kityo. Sang's message could just be the propeller for the chips to fall apart. And finally as I pointed earlier in my state of the race analysis (link below), Raila only need a modest cut of the Kalenjin support & the die is cast for Jubilant dark forces. Sang's latest move could be that " October surprise" in American political term. Sure it's gonna to be a long a week. Tuko tayari! upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/HOW_RAILA_WINS_50%2B1.pdfupload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/2010_REFERENDUM_DATA.pdf |
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Post by nereah on Feb 26, 2013 19:47:15 GMT 3
sam, if you read my post on jukwaa's watch on uhuru kenyatta, this is what i meant when i said its gonna be a bad week for kamwana. as usual the lazy media wont disappoint their critics like me and thats why kenyans who want depth on trending and existential issues must connect with jukwaa, the iconic brand where facts are examined, events and political happenings put n perspective and politics best analyzed even as it goes local as is the case in kenya. keep it jukwaa  |
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Post by b6k on Feb 26, 2013 20:33:45 GMT 3
Even I have my sources on the ground in RV (but do I say) What they are saying: 1. Sang is bitter about not being in a position to hold public office (does anyone know why he stepped down from the race?). He has been given money to take this position in a bid to help CORD in RV. 2. Ruto is still very strong in RV. Sang's or any other issues coming up won't sway the presidential vote away from Jubilee. 3. In areas like Baringo where some are saying Ruto is in trouble, the people are actually telling him to drop his insistence on 6-piece voting. They are telling him that Jubilee has their vote for presidency, but the other seats they say they want to have a free hand at selecting whoever they please be they from URP or other parties. Case in point, Gideon Moi is looking like he could very well bag the Baringo Senate seat. But like I always say, March 4th is but a few days away and we shall very soon see the real "lay of the land" if you will. Bkichwa, your sources thus explains this.... www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000078131&story_title=Kenya-Ruto-%E2%80%98imposing-candidate-on-voters%E2%80%99Truth be told even Uhuru & Agwambo have been having problems trying to go the 6 piece way. A 6 piece vote makes even less sense for Ruto because effectively he would remove himself from the race as his name is on a TNA ballot  |
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Post by gemagema on Feb 26, 2013 20:48:25 GMT 3
Here are some random, possibly even useless ramblings gathered from the streets of Nairobi earlier this February 26th afternoon:I was hanging out around Kimathi Street near the statue. I suddenly saw one of my activist friends, Ms. Flora K, who emanates from the Meru region. I casually mentioned the Sang breaking story. She told me she had just come back to Nairobi from somewhere in the former Rift Valley Province where she is a frequent visitor. She asked me, " Do you know what our sisters and brothers from the region are saying?"I shook my head, befuddled. They are saying, "Kichwa ni ya baba, mwili ni URP".[The head is for the father, the body belongs to URP."]What does that mean, I persisted. It is a coded way of saying, URP will sweep the Governor, Senator, National Assembly, Women Rep and Ward Rep slots. But they are voting in Raila Odinga as the fourth President.Flora, by the way, is a die hard, hard core CORD flag waver. Make of the above what you will. Onyango Oloo Hahahaaa OO, whats your take on that? Did you buy the story? This is a campaign strategy that CORD has tried to adopt after it became very clear to them URP has left no space for anyone, not even KANU. Unfortunately for them, it is not flying. You see, the problem in RV is not ODM or CORD, NO. It is Raila Odinga the man, full stop. No one trusts him, no one wants to repeat the mistake of 07. Poor Mwalimumkuu, And so RV would better trust Uhuru than Raila....even Ruto would better be very careful. His known political prostitution will teach him the new lessons that Raila is a better partner than Uhuru. Ruto and Uhuru's marriage will not last long....The kalenjins are definitely gonna regret And you like it or not, Sang isnt a big fish, but his move will cause those Kalenjins who were unsure about Uhuru (the undecided RV) to finally decide which candidate to vote |
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 27, 2013 2:55:59 GMT 3
Radio Presenter Joshua arap Sang Endorsing Raila Is A Major Boost For Raila In Rift Valley, omwenga.com/2013/02/26/radio-presenter-joshua-arap-sang-endorsing-raila-is-a-major-boost-for-raila-in-rv/Reliable sources tell me realizing the dual impact of Ruto's public reconciliation with Raila and Sang's endorsement of Raila, media houses in the country have been heavily leaned on (read paid-off) to ignore both events. Not surprising but the word will get to where it needs to one way or another. And the impact will be felt as it should for truth prevails in the end no matter what. |
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 27, 2013 4:23:27 GMT 3
Radio Presenter Joshua arap Sang Endorsing Raila Is A Major Boost For Raila In Rift Valley, omwenga.com/2013/02/26/radio-presenter-joshua-arap-sang-endorsing-raila-is-a-major-boost-for-raila-in-rv/Reliable sources tell me realizing the dual impact of Ruto's public reconciliation with Raila and Sang's endorsement of Raila, media houses in the country have been heavily leaned on (read paid-off) to ignore both events. Not surprising but the word will get to where it needs to one way or another. And the impact will be felt as it should for truth prevails in the end no matter what. Sang took a huge step and should be commended for his statements on certain truths. It can't have been easy in Tribal Kenya and with the ICC Lion's hot breath on the back of his neck. People should acknowledge and respect that. He probably had a "conscience" thing, so it is a bit insulting and certainly excessive to state that this is one of "beginning of many strategic executions" by Makmende Raila. |
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Post by kamalet on Feb 27, 2013 9:07:42 GMT 3
On you way down, it does not matter what it is that might save you including a straw.....!
Wrong strategy to release the message as a recorded statement whilst a live press conference would have nailed it!
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