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Post by Omwenga on Feb 27, 2013 9:08:37 GMT 3
Radio Presenter Joshua arap Sang Endorsing Raila Is A Major Boost For Raila In Rift Valley, omwenga.com/2013/02/26/radio-presenter-joshua-arap-sang-endorsing-raila-is-a-major-boost-for-raila-in-rv/Reliable sources tell me realizing the dual impact of Ruto's public reconciliation with Raila and Sang's endorsement of Raila, media houses in the country have been heavily leaned on (read paid-off) to ignore both events. Not surprising but the word will get to where it needs to one way or another. And the impact will be felt as it should for truth prevails in the end no matter what. Sang took a huge step and should be commended for his statements on certain truths. It can't have been easy in Tribal Kenya and with the ICC Lion's hot breath on the back of his neck. People should acknowledge and respect that. He probably had a "conscience" thing, so it is a bit insulting and certainly excessive to state that this is one of "beginning of many strategic executions" by Makmende Raila. Otis, Let me assure you as firmly as I can I know what I am talking about and equally assure you there is nothing even "a bit insulting" in what I have said; Nothing. As these things often turn, years from now the whole story will be known as share by those who knew the goings on in real time but for now, everyone is entitled to their own theories and postulations as to what happened leading to this turn of events, starting from Ruto's reconciliation. That includes your own postulation here which may or may not have been the case but what I can tell you, these things often don't happen in a vacuum and neither do they occur on account of one or two factors; usually its a combination of several factors.
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Post by phil on Feb 27, 2013 9:13:49 GMT 3
Ladies and gents, Forget about the debates and any other thing that has been said on the campaign trial. This utterance by Mr. Sang, especially at this hour will be a major game changer. The message to be broadcast via KASS FM will completely change the political landscape in Kalenjinland. Believe it or not, this is one thing that many Kalenjins have been whispering about but had not had the fortitude to say aloud. There is no way on earth an MOU between Uhuru and Ruto will bring peace to the RVP. Land is a major issue of conflicts in the rift and Kenyatta has plenty of it in that province. Infact he has so much he is ashamed of uttering the size (you all heard him in last nights debate). Because of the above HE should have had the most concrete plan for land. Lakini wapi. Truth is finally coming out. What a sucker punch to Uhuru Kenyatta at the last minute. @mzeeUp to this moment, KASS FM are buying time. They have not aired that Arap Sang clip that is spreading like wildfire through social media to Kalenjin Counties and the rest of the country. Uhuru and Ruto are now unmasked by a fellow ICC indictee.
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Post by deyiengs on Feb 27, 2013 10:35:00 GMT 3
Up to this moment, KASS FM are buying time. They have not aired that Arap Sang clip that is spreading like wildfire through social media to Kalenjin Counties and the rest of the country. Uhuru and Ruto are now unmasked by a fellow ICC indictee. True Phil, Even the Hard-copy of the Standard ignored this story. They ran the web copy but it did not see the printing press partly because the message had not been played yet and that it came for the PMPS. I don't think anything will change the Kalenjin's mind. they're a gone case and CORD should forget about their votes. There's no need for these excitements here. Lots of wishful thinkers are wasting their time here. Uhuru calculated his moves well and he'll get the Kalenjin backing to the last man. Ruto had no option but to play second feedle because his lawyers insisted he had to be on the ballot to have any chance of throwing the spanner into the works at the ICC. He then cleverly convinced his folks to back Ouru when Raila was busy dining with Kibaki trying to please the white man. Raila might win but not with the backing of the Kalenjin. That's the bitter truth that most folks here will not want to hear. No need to cheat yourself here that Kichwa cha Ralila na mwili ni Ruto. no need.
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 27, 2013 10:57:55 GMT 3
Here are some random, possibly even useless ramblings gathered from the streets of Nairobi earlier this February 26th afternoon:Hahahaaa OO, whats your take on that? Did you buy the story? This is a campaign strategy that CORD has tried to adopt after it became very clear to them URP has left no space for anyone, not even KANU. Unfortunately for them, it is not flying. You see, the problem in RV is not ODM or CORD, NO. It is Raila Odinga the man, full stop. No one trusts him, no one wants to repeat the mistake of 07. Mwalimumkuu, I know there is panic among Uhuru supporters as his campaign is unraveling with developments in Rift Valley and elsewhere but, seriously, do you even in these moments of heightened panic stop to read what post and find it making sense? How can you say no one trusts Raila in Rift Valley when at least one in the name of Joshua arap Sang has stated Raila is the only president among those vying that can finally address issues dear near the hearts of the Kalenjin? Does Sang not count as a person? What about all those political leaders from the area, including Bett, Kosgeys, Magerer and others who trust Raila; do they not count as persons in your mind? What about the now upwards of 60% being polled saying they will vote for Raila; do they not count as persons in your mind or are you trying to make the case Raila is being supported by people who don't trust him? Does any of that make sense to you? Kindly think through these things before you post them. Truth is, far more Kalenjins trust Raila to deal with their issues than do Uhuru. As I have blogged elsewhere, Uhuru will be lucky if he gets near 30% of the vote from the region and if he does, he can walk tall with his head up as matches to wherever he will spend time cooling off from defeat come next week.
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Post by nowayhaha on Feb 27, 2013 11:14:51 GMT 3
Up to this moment, KASS FM are buying time. They have not aired that Arap Sang clip that is spreading like wildfire through social media to Kalenjin Counties and the rest of the country. Uhuru and Ruto are now unmasked by a fellow ICC indictee. True Phil, Even the Hard-copy of the Standard ignored this story. They ran the web copy but it did not see the printing press partly because the message had not been played yet and that it came for the PMPS. I don't think anything will change the Kalenjin's mind. they're a gone case and CORD should forget about their votes. There's no need for these excitements here. Lots of wishful thinkers are wasting their time here. Uhuru calculated his moves well and he'll get the Kalenjin backing to the last man. Ruto had no option but to play second feedle because his lawyers insisted he had to be on the ballot to have any chance of throwing the spanner into the works at the ICC. He then cleverly convinced his folks to back Ouru when Raila was busy dining with Kibaki trying to please the white man. Raila might win but not with the backing of the Kalenjin. That's the bitter truth that most folks here will not want to hear. No need to cheat yourself here that Kichwa cha Ralila na mwili ni Ruto. no need. One thing for sure is that the Lower Eastern voters aka Makueni , Machakos and Kitui Counties will vote Raila to the last man not because they like him or they like his policies No because they think they will get the Deputy Presidential post same reason why the people of Riftvalley will vote for Uhuru to the last man now also add to the fact that Raila betrayed them and their leaders.
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Post by roughrider on Feb 27, 2013 12:14:25 GMT 3
If there is a Kalenjin who is not voting for Raila because ‘he took Sang and Ruto to the Hague’ then he had better get another reason. That was a myth. Sang is at the Hague and is under no such illusions.
One thing that strikes me from Sang’s action is the following: Nobody could have been closer to Ruto than arap Sang. They are both indictees at the ICC. They share lawyers. They are kalenjins. Is there a Kalenjin who thinks they are closer to Ruto than arap Sang? Now that arap Sang is saying he cannot live with his conscience and must tell the truth, what reason is left NOT to vote for Raila among the Kalenjins?
Now two of 3 Kalenjins at the Hague are clear on what is right.
Of course, those who weakly pro-raila or those who already support Raila are even more encouraged to continue their support. The undecided and weakly pro-Uhuru are rethinking. For those who are rabidly and unthinkingly anti-Raila, this is a chink in the armour.
Folks, chini ni URP, juu tumia akili!
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Post by Ouali on Feb 27, 2013 17:02:00 GMT 3
This is another coded message that Mr. sang has used. On careful analysis, it comes just after the ICC disclosure of some witnesses to the defence lawyers. From what sang says some of Uhurus witnesses and henchmen could have been the same people who testified against sang and Ruto. It is for this reason Mr. sang cannot keep quite about it and Ruto is equally aware. I am waiting to hear rutos rebuke on the same and if he does not then we can say sang had his blessings to go public.
In a nutshell the alliance is naked and could have no ground to stand on but lies!
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Post by OtishOtish on Feb 27, 2013 17:16:54 GMT 3
starting from Ruto's reconciliation. Can you explain to me this alleged reconciliation that you have made so much of? Sure, we were treated to Raila and Ruto shaking hands, smiling at each other, and saying "nice" things for the public. But that's politicians. Did Raila and Uhuru also reconcile? And how exactly has any of this changed the race, in which Uhuru and Ruto are still running as partners?
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 1, 2013 3:06:58 GMT 3
Where can I get the full translation of Mr Sang's statement? Help!
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Post by deyiengs on Mar 1, 2013 4:33:09 GMT 3
I'm sure CORD is going to get at least 50,000 votes because of this:
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 1, 2013 6:47:21 GMT 3
I'm sure CORD is going to get at least 50,000 votes because of this: Doyiengs,On the contrary, people are running away in droves and in terrible anger. The timing of this thing was not very well thought out. It is hurting its executioners more than the target.
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Post by chokoraa on Mar 1, 2013 7:02:59 GMT 3
Wrong strategy to release the message as a recorded statement whilst a live press conference would have nailed it!Kamale, like they say where I come from :- Before your spit dried this was done,was this the nail in the jubilee coffin you were waiting for?
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Post by kamalet on Mar 1, 2013 9:48:00 GMT 3
Wrong strategy to release the message as a recorded statement whilst a live press conference would have nailed it!Kamale, like they say where I come from :- Before your spit dried this was done,was this the nail in the jubilee coffin you were waiting for? Once again a poor strategy! Once they released the statement, it was done and the home visit was an anti-climax! Can you imagine the effect of a Sang surprise appearance at a Trans Nzioa rally (forget about the tea served in those mugs that brought quite some memory!).
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Post by johns on Mar 1, 2013 10:05:36 GMT 3
I'm sure CORD is going to get at least 50,000 votes because of this: Let us watch the real thing and see the effect of being CORDED !
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Post by johns on Mar 1, 2013 10:35:49 GMT 3
This thing is already over and i feel sad and sorry for Kimwana. What the son of Jomo must be going through is completely uncomprehensible to those who lack imagination and the nightmare dreams he must be having of ocampo and Bensouda ushering him inside the cooler sanctity of the hague cell where Garbo and Taylor are having fist fights over the bigger shares for a plate of beans.
Sorry Muthamaki, this thing is real and you will come to that realization on the 5th of March 2013 when the kenyan voters would have rejected you in tottoo with a clear message that you stand answerable for the rapes, murder and displacement of your fellow kenyans.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 1, 2013 13:39:00 GMT 3
I'm sure CORD is going to get at least 50,000 votes because of this: Doyiengs,On the contrary, people are running away in droves and in terrible anger. The timing of this thing was not very well thought out. It is hurting its executioners more than the target. MwalimuMkuu, You have your ear on ground I can see , this thing on the contrary has worked for Jubilee and raked emotions on many of the riftvalley electorate they feel betrayed by a man bought for only 15 Million because they had previously come together and personally done a Harambee for him to raise his legal fees for the ICC case and travel requirements. Actually they are asking his lawyer who goes by the name of Bosik to stop misadvising him, he first blamed Kigen for the pretrial chamber case , asked him not to run for senate case and now this.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Mar 1, 2013 15:39:08 GMT 3
Where can I get the full translation of Mr Sang's statement? Help! Is this of any help, my dear compatriot?
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 1, 2013 17:52:24 GMT 3
Where can I get the full translation of Mr Sang's statement? Help! Is this of any help, my dear compatriot? OO, Absolutely helpful- thank you very much.
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