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Post by Horth on Mar 2, 2013 9:10:38 GMT 3
Source: Financial TimesRaila Odinga, a leading contender to become Kenya’s next president, has given warning of dire consequences if he is deprived of victory in Monday’s elections – citing a campaign by rivals to intimidate his supporters. The public reaction could be “worse than last time”, said Mr Odinga, as Kenya prepares to hold its most ambitious and complex polls to date – taking place with memories still fresh of the widespread violence that followed the previous general election in late 2007. That bloodshed brought the country to the brink of collapse. More than 1,100 people were killed and 660,000 displaced in ethnic clashes – the worst in the country’s 50 years of independence. “If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya. “I know that they [my rivals] are putting plans in place to try to rig these elections, but I have warned them the consequences may be worse than last time round. The people will not stomach another rigging.” Given the danger that any protests against results could turn deadly, as they did last time, his words are sure to raise some alarm. “He’s positioning himself to reject the result,” said an analyst of the vote in which every ballot will count. Mr Odinga and his chief rival Uhuru Kenyatta, deputy prime minister, are rated neck-and-neck in opinion polls – at close to 45 points each. To win in Monday’s first round, candidates need an absolute majority and at least 25 per cent of votes polled in half the country’s 47 new counties, introduced under the terms of a 2010 constitution. If there is no outright winner, a second round falls due in April. Despite a barrage of peace concerts and communal prayers in the final days before the vote, tension is rising as both sides trade accusations of ethnic harassment and voter manipulation. “I think there’s a bit of blackmail going on, basically to try to reduce numbers, particularly among my supporters and this is something that is being orchestrated by my rivals,” said Mr Odinga, some of whose comments are borne out by election observer reports. He is the son of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, a prominent figure in Kenya’s struggle for independence from Britain who later fell out with the country’s first president – Mr Kenyatta’s father. Raila Odinga has rejected suspect election results before. In 2007, he called his supporters on to the street to protest in demonstrations that quickly turned violent and in places murderous. According to subsequent human rights reports, police shot dead more than 400 demonstrators whose protests triggered reprisal attacks from the Mungiki, an outlawed ethnic gang, who beheaded and burned their victims alive. Mr Odinga was eventually appointed prime minister in a settlement negotiated by international mediators that ended the unrest. Mr Kenyatta and his running mate, William Ruto, are both facing trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague for their alleged roles in organising the 2008 violence. Mr Odinga quipped that they were “Siamese twins joined at the waist by the ICC”. Diplomats and rights campaigners are imploring losers to accept the result this time, or take their grievances to the courts rather than to the streets. Both leading contenders have instead talked up their chances of winning in the first round. Mr Odinga says he would seek redress through the judiciary, consistently rated the most respected institution in the country following a 2010 shake-up. But he harbours some doubts. “The thing is that the weaknesses within our criminal justice system are becoming apparent. We’ve made very substantial progress in the reform but it’s still not there,” he said. Chief Justice Willy Mutunga, whose job it is to swear in the new president and preside over any legal challenges, has complained of death threats and state interference in the run-up to the vote. Both Mr Mutunga and Mr Odinga have suggested that parts of the government apparatus are biased in favour of Mr Kenyatta, whom Mr Odinga says draws significant support only from his Kikuyu ethnic group. Mr Odinga perceives an ethnic bias towards the Kikuyu in almost every institution of the state. “[The retiring president Mwai Kibaki] is only comfortable working with the people from his tribe; Uhuru will not be different. These people don’t really want to unite the country,” said Mr Odinga, adding that he would appoint Kenyans from all ethnic groups to government and would be willing to include Mr Kenyatta, too, in order to create “a win-win situation”. |
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Post by bob on Mar 2, 2013 10:00:03 GMT 3
Source: Financial TimesRaila Odinga, a leading contender to become Kenya’s next president, has given warning of dire consequences if he is deprived of victory in Monday’s elections – citing a campaign by rivals to intimidate his supporters. The public reaction could be “worse than last time”, said Mr Odinga, as Kenya prepares to hold its most ambitious and complex polls to date – taking place with memories still fresh of the widespread violence that followed the previous general election in late 2007. That bloodshed brought the country to the brink of collapse. More than 1,100 people were killed and 660,000 displaced in ethnic clashes – the worst in the country’s 50 years of independence. “If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” Mr Odinga said in an interview with the Financial Times at his ancestral home in western Kenya. “I know that they [my rivals] are putting plans in place to try to rig these elections, but I have warned them the consequences may be worse than last time round. The people will not stomach another rigging.” Given the danger that any protests against results could turn deadly, as they did last time, his words are sure to raise some alarm. “He’s positioning himself to reject the result,” said an analyst of the vote in which every ballot will count. Mr Odinga and his chief rival Uhuru Kenyatta, deputy prime minister, are rated neck-and-neck in opinion polls – at close to 45 points each. To win in Monday’s first round, candidates need an absolute majority and at least 25 per cent of votes polled in half the country’s 47 new counties, introduced under the terms of a 2010 constitution. If there is no outright winner, a second round falls due in April. Despite a barrage of peace concerts and communal prayers in the final days before the vote, tension is rising as both sides trade accusations of ethnic harassment and voter manipulation. “I think there’s a bit of blackmail going on, basically to try to reduce numbers, particularly among my supporters and this is something that is being orchestrated by my rivals,” said Mr Odinga, some of whose comments are borne out by election observer reports. He is the son of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, a prominent figure in Kenya’s struggle for independence from Britain who later fell out with the country’s first president – Mr Kenyatta’s father. Raila Odinga has rejected suspect election results before. In 2007, he called his supporters on to the street to protest in demonstrations that quickly turned violent and in places murderous. According to subsequent human rights reports, police shot dead more than 400 demonstrators whose protests triggered reprisal attacks from the Mungiki, an outlawed ethnic gang, who beheaded and burned their victims alive. Mr Odinga was eventually appointed prime minister in a settlement negotiated by international mediators that ended the unrest. Mr Kenyatta and his running mate, William Ruto, are both facing trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague for their alleged roles in organising the 2008 violence. Mr Odinga quipped that they were “Siamese twins joined at the waist by the ICC”. Diplomats and rights campaigners are imploring losers to accept the result this time, or take their grievances to the courts rather than to the streets. Both leading contenders have instead talked up their chances of winning in the first round. Mr Odinga says he would seek redress through the judiciary, consistently rated the most respected institution in the country following a 2010 shake-up. But he harbours some doubts. “The thing is that the weaknesses within our criminal justice system are becoming apparent. We’ve made very substantial progress in the reform but it’s still not there,” he said. Chief Justice Willy Mutunga, whose job it is to swear in the new president and preside over any legal challenges, has complained of death threats and state interference in the run-up to the vote. Both Mr Mutunga and Mr Odinga have suggested that parts of the government apparatus are biased in favour of Mr Kenyatta, whom Mr Odinga says draws significant support only from his Kikuyu ethnic group. Mr Odinga perceives an ethnic bias towards the Kikuyu in almost every institution of the state. “[The retiring president Mwai Kibaki] is only comfortable working with the people from his tribe; Uhuru will not be different. These people don’t really want to unite the country,” said Mr Odinga, adding that he would appoint Kenyans from all ethnic groups to government and would be willing to include Mr Kenyatta, too, in order to create “a win-win situation”. With all due respect i see nowhere where RAO says there will be chaos if he loses ,this is an alarmist propaganda |
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Post by mank on Mar 2, 2013 10:00:45 GMT 3
Annoying! A man with good prospects of being president does not understand and respect the system that selects leaders in a democracy!
So he issues threats ... but not just that. He also gives promises whose prospects of loss on account of someone else being elected who did not give those promises, fires up emotions! What a way to cause crisis and be disconnected at the time it erupts! As far as I can tell, Raila is personally responsible for chaos in 2007, and he's busy formenting a new strife!
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Post by kipfirimbi on Mar 2, 2013 10:38:28 GMT 3
Annoying! A man with good prospects of being president does not understand and respect the system that selects leaders in a democracy! So he issues threats ... but not just that. He also gives promises whose prospects of loss on account of someone else being elected who did not give those promises, fires up emotions! What a way to cause crisis and be disconnected at the time it erupts! As far as I can tell, Raila is personally responsible for chaos in 2007, and he's busy formenting a new strife! You are getting emotional Mank infact hot under the collar matey....chill...if there is rigging of kind..expect kenyans not to accept it..that is the message. If you aint happy with that then go to planet mars or some red hot place and get consumed. Its not annoying its the reality. No rigging is acceptable!! Wake up if you think kenyans are that dunder heads.!!...Annoying? Briderin get sober . |
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Post by nereah on Mar 2, 2013 11:46:35 GMT 3
As far as I can tell, Raila is personally responsible for chaos in 2007, and he's busy fomenting a new strife! ;D, with tremendous respect to you, i am convinced that you sound more than a closeted member of the raila hate society and anyone but raila brotherhood. i say so because there are more desperate constructions of kenya's fourth president posted here by agents, supporters and sympathizers of raila's enemies which you have curiously ignored. |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 2, 2013 12:37:47 GMT 3
Raila is known to refuse to accept election results since time memorial talk of 1992,1997 and the famous 2007 .
He can warn us of trouble and violence if loses squarely but he should be prepared to go to ICC and be answerable this time around . If he does not heed to the advice of Obama and international community that for any election dispute seek courts redress instead of causing mayhem and violence in the streets, then it will be upto him.
We have discussed many a times and comprehensively here in Jukwaa and there are many threads to THIS effect on CORDs/ODM campaign strategy and it was crystal clear from the word go this was the plan -TO REJECT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULTS IN AN EVENT THEY LOSE AS THEY SHOULD BE IN POWER BY HOOK OR CROOK.
The results of a such a dangerous campaign strategy is that it comes with bloodshed as witnessed in 2007 G.E. Seems CORD political strategists never learnt a thing or two from the 2007 G.E. and the aftermath that was 2007-2008 P.E.V.
If only I.C.C. could have nabbed all the culprits responsible for the P.E.V. and done thorough investigations it would have helped to bring sanity in the political scene and dissuaded such strategies and eventually put a rest to Post Election Violence .
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Post by Horth on Mar 2, 2013 13:57:11 GMT 3
Seems like the PM's office have clarified this article which I believ was slightly exaggerated. Prime Minister Raila Odinga is deeply intrigued and feels absolutely slandered by the story appearing in the Financial Time that implies he will not accept defeat in the Monday elections however free and fair.
Prime Minister Odinga conducted two interviews at short intervals on Friday, March 1, 2013 with the Financial Times and the British Broadcasting Corporation Radio and TV at his home in Bondo.
At none of these interviews did Mr Odinga speak of violence should he lose elections as reported by the Financial Times today.
In both interviews, PM referred to his sporting career as an athlete and footballer and repeated that as a sports person, he understands losing and winning as part of the game.
Asked what it would be the end of his political career if he loses the elections, the PM's answer was:
'I strongly believe I am going to win this election, and in round one. However, in the likely event that I lose, I believe there will be a role for me in Kenya. I can write my memoirs, I have a family to take care of, and, most importantly, I have a party that I will continue to guide so we can deepen democracy in Kenya. I believe the democratization of Kenya has been my biggest contribution to the country and I want to push it to the end whether I am in or out of elective politics.'
On his plans should he win, the PM said:
'I will want to form an inclusive government, in which all, including my opponents, will have a role, so we can take this country forward.'
On claims that his supporters are being targeted with propaganda leaflets, the PM said:
'I am aware that my opponents are scaring my supporters so that they can migrate from where they registered in order to cut the spread of my vote. It is a form of rigging and Kenyans will not accept it. However, the people they are pushing out constitute a drop in the ocean of my support. I will still win this election despite this dirty campaign.'
Mr Odinga is shocked by the Financial Times story and considers it the work of a writer and organization with fixed idea of Kenya as the country goes to elections.
DENNIS ONYANGO;
Communication Secretary,
Office of the Prime Minister;
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Post by furaha on Mar 2, 2013 14:20:59 GMT 3
Did he really say "in the likely event that I lose" ? ;D ;D Seems like the PM's office have clarified this article which I believ was slightly exaggerated. Prime Minister Raila Odinga is deeply intrigued and feels absolutely slandered by the story appearing in the Financial Time that implies he will not accept defeat in the Monday elections however free and fair.
Prime Minister Odinga conducted two interviews at short intervals on Friday, March 1, 2013 with the Financial Times and the British Broadcasting Corporation Radio and TV at his home in Bondo.
At none of these interviews did Mr Odinga speak of violence should he lose elections as reported by the Financial Times today.
In both interviews, PM referred to his sporting career as an athlete and footballer and repeated that as a sports person, he understands losing and winning as part of the game.
Asked what it would be the end of his political career if he loses the elections, the PM's answer was:
'I strongly believe I am going to win this election, and in round one. However, in the likely event that I lose, I believe there will be a role for me in Kenya. I can write my memoirs, I have a family to take care of, and, most importantly, I have a party that I will continue to guide so we can deepen democracy in Kenya. I believe the democratization of Kenya has been my biggest contribution to the country and I want to push it to the end whether I am in or out of elective politics.'
On his plans should he win, the PM said:
'I will want to form an inclusive government, in which all, including my opponents, will have a role, so we can take this country forward.'
On claims that his supporters are being targeted with propaganda leaflets, the PM said:
'I am aware that my opponents are scaring my supporters so that they can migrate from where they registered in order to cut the spread of my vote. It is a form of rigging and Kenyans will not accept it. However, the people they are pushing out constitute a drop in the ocean of my support. I will still win this election despite this dirty campaign.'
Mr Odinga is shocked by the Financial Times story and considers it the work of a writer and organization with fixed idea of Kenya as the country goes to elections.
DENNIS ONYANGO;
Communication Secretary,
Office of the Prime Minister;
March 2, 2013. |
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Post by tactician on Mar 2, 2013 18:38:49 GMT 3
another story from Reuters on raila's claims of unfairness.
Anyone on computer please copy & paste the article. I'm on fon which is inconvenient for this.
Here is the link:
uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/02/uk-kenya-elections-odinga-idUKBRE92106S20130302
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Post by mank on Mar 2, 2013 18:58:05 GMT 3
As far as I can tell, Raila is personally responsible for chaos in 2007, and he's busy fomenting a new strife!
with tremendous respect to you, i am convinced that you sound more than a closeted member of the raila hate society and anyone but raila brotherhood.
i say so because there are more desperate constructions of kenya's fourth president posted here by agents, supporters and sympathizers of raila's enemies which you have curiously ignored.Dada Nereah (and Kifirimbi equally), Far from it. It is that I tell as I see it, what I said there is exactly what I get from the story, and others in which Raila is promising everyone land. You on the other hand will not criticize anything about Raila ... that's what your complaint suggests. Otherwise if Raila himself now expresses shock with the story, why were you only shocked by my reaction and not at all by the story? |
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Post by joblesscorner on Mar 2, 2013 19:03:31 GMT 3
"Speaking on the last day of campaigning, Odinga said the election committee had failed to register all voters in his core constituencies but not in areas viewed as heartlands of Kenyatta's. But he said that, unlike in 2007, he had confidence in a reformed judiciary to adjudicate.
If he sought to raise a challenge, Odinga said, "we will go to court and we will urge our people to be calm and peaceful and await the outcome of the petition"
another story from Reuters on raila's claims of unfairness. Anyone on computer please copy & paste the article. I'm on fon which is inconvenient for this. Here is the link: uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/02/uk-kenya-elections-odinga-idUKBRE92106S20130302
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Post by tactician on Mar 2, 2013 19:18:34 GMT 3
Odinga alleges unfairness before Kenyan
election
KAREN, Kenya (Reuters) - One of Kenya's top two
presidential rivals accused the electoral commission
on Saturday of disadvantaging him by "design or
omission" in Monday's vote, a poll intended to
reassert the rule of law after savage post-election
tribal fighting in 2007. Prime Minister Raila Odinga, locked in a tight race
against Uhuru Kenyatta, told Reuters he was still
confident of a first-round victory, but his comments
hint at legal wrangles and tension if the result is as
close as surveys suggest. More than 1,200 people
died in ethnic violence in 2007 after Odinga disputed the victory of
incumbent president Mwai Kibaki. Speaking on the
last day of campaigning, Odinga
said the election committee had failed to register all
voters in his core constituencies but not in areas
viewed as heartlands of Kenyatta's. But he said that, unlike in 2007, he had confidence in a reformed
judiciary to adjudicate. If he sought to raise a
challenge, Odinga said, "we
will go to court and we will urge our people to be
calm and peaceful and await the outcome of the
petition". For years seen as one of Africa's most stable
democracies, east Africa's biggest economy is being
watched by African and Western donors and
investors to see if can now hold a vote where
disputes are played out in court, not on the streets.
Although the new Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission, which denies any bias, is
widely seen as much more impartial than its
predecessor, and reforms have made the judiciary
less political, many ordinary Kenyans are preparing
for the possibility of violence. POLITICAL DYNASTY
In an hour-long interview, Odinga, scion of a family at the heart of Kenyan politics since independence
in 1963, said he still expected to win more than 50
percent of the vote on Monday, avoiding the need
for a run-off. "We still don't think that all these
reports (of
shortcomings in preparations) will have much impact to the outcome of elections," said the 68-
year-old, who may now have his last chance to
secure the top job. "We have urged the people to
turn out and vote in
large numbers." Five years ago, 350,000 people
fled their homes when rival ethnic groups fought with machetes,
knives and bows and arrows. In the areas that
were worst affected, many store
owners are again running down stocks for fear of
new carnage. Residents of some ethnically mixed
areas have returned to their tribal homelands, many of them prompted by threatening leaflets.
Odinga said the election commission had failed to
send enough biometric registration kits to
strongholds of his Coalition for Reform and
Democracy (CORD), so that his supporters were
under-represented on voter lists. "Rigging of an election is not just on the polling
date," Odinga said. "I don't know whether it is by
design or by omission." Speaking in the lush
garden of his villa in the Karen
suburb on the outskirts of Nairobi before heading
out for a final rally, Odinga said some 4 million people who should have been on voter lists had
been left off, although he did not say how many he
viewed as his backers. Some 14 million Kenyans
have been registered to vote. RIVALS ACCUSED
Odinga also accused his opponents of using the
civil service to promote their parties or of using food aid to win support, allegations that they deny.
Regarding his main rival, Odinga said many voters
appreciated "the danger" of electing Kenyatta and
his running mate, William Ruto, both charged by the
International Criminal Court (ICC) with
orchestrating violence after the 2007 vote. The United States and Western countries worry
about future ties if Kenyatta wins the race to lead
Kenya, a major recipient of aid and a regional ally in
the fight against militant Islam. But Odinga also said
some Kenyans might
sympathies with Kenyatta and Ruto, who "portray themselves as innocent victims". Both men deny all
the charges. Odinga, who has previously quipped
that Kenyatta
would have to run a government by Skype from
The Hague, said if he won the election he would
petition the U.N. Security Council to have the cases referred back to Kenyan jurisdiction. Typically for a
Kenyan election, tribal loyalties will
trump ideology for many. But Odinga, from the Luo
tribe, and Kenyatta, a
Kikuyu, will need to reach beyond their tribal
heartlands if they are to win with more than 50 percent of the vote. Both have picked running
mates from other ethnic backgrounds. Odinga
pledged to weed out corruption from the
civil service, where Kenyans complain of a culture
that runs from small-time bribery to multi-million
dollar scams. He said he would extend to government the
reforms that have begun restoring trust in the
judiciary and police by making them less
susceptible to political interference. He also
promised to deal fairly in adjudicating land
disputes, in line with the 2010 constitution. Many Kenyans have long resented seeing
politicians carve up vast tracts of land, leaving the
legions of smallholders who are the backbone of
Kenyan agriculture struggling for a profit on
smaller and smaller farms. (Writing by Edmund Blair;
Editing by Kevin Liffey) mobile.reuters.com/article/
idUSBRE92107H20130302?irpc=932
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 3, 2013 0:43:23 GMT 3
Katrina Manson @katrinamanson "We’ve made very substantial progress in the reform but it’s still not there,” he said," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary Reply Retweet Favorite More 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson “The thing is that the weaknesses within our criminal justice system are becoming apparent," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson @railaodinga described @ukenyatta and @williamsruto as “Siamese twins joined at the waist by the #ICC” #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson “I think there’s a bit of blackmail going on, basically to try to reduce numbers," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson “He’s positioning himself to reject the result,” said analyst of @railaodinga of vote in which each ballot will count on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson "The people will not stomach another rigging," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson (2/2) “...but I have warned them the consequences may be worse than last time round," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson (1/2) “I know that [my rivals] are putting plans in place to try to rig these elections," says @railaodinga #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson “If I lose, of course it will be because of blackmail and intimidation,” said @railaodinga at his Bondo home #Kenya on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 14 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson @railaodinga warns of trouble if he loses #Kenya poll on.ft.com/Xfu2zuView summary 22 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson Dear @robertalai, I think you are referring to a different interview. This FT piece is the result of my interview with @railaodinga in Bondo View conversation 22 hrs Katrina Manson @katrinamanson Greetings @justus_Walobwa, @railaodinga said all this to me in a two-hour interview at his Bondo home Fri morning View conversation twitter.com/KatrinaManson |
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Post by b6k on Mar 3, 2013 21:29:45 GMT 3
Seems like the PM's office have clarified this article which I believ was slightly exaggerated. Prime Minister Raila Odinga is deeply intrigued and feels absolutely slandered by the story appearing in the Financial Time that implies he will not accept defeat in the Monday elections however free and fair.
Prime Minister Odinga conducted two interviews at short intervals on Friday, March 1, 2013 with the Financial Times and the British Broadcasting Corporation Radio and TV at his home in Bondo.
At none of these interviews did Mr Odinga speak of violence should he lose elections as reported by the Financial Times today.
In both interviews, PM referred to his sporting career as an athlete and footballer and repeated that as a sports person, he understands losing and winning as part of the game.
Asked what it would be the end of his political career if he loses the elections, the PM's answer was:
'I strongly believe I am going to win this election, and in round one. However, in the likely event that I lose, I believe there will be a role for me in Kenya. I can write my memoirs, I have a family to take care of, and, most importantly, I have a party that I will continue to guide so we can deepen democracy in Kenya. I believe the democratization of Kenya has been my biggest contribution to the country and I want to push it to the end whether I am in or out of elective politics.'
On his plans should he win, the PM said:
'I will want to form an inclusive government, in which all, including my opponents, will have a role, so we can take this country forward.'
On claims that his supporters are being targeted with propaganda leaflets, the PM said:
'I am aware that my opponents are scaring my supporters so that they can migrate from where they registered in order to cut the spread of my vote. It is a form of rigging and Kenyans will not accept it. However, the people they are pushing out constitute a drop in the ocean of my support. I will still win this election despite this dirty campaign.'
Mr Odinga is shocked by the Financial Times story and considers it the work of a writer and organization with fixed idea of Kenya as the country goes to elections.
DENNIS ONYANGO;
Communication Secretary,
Office of the Prime Minister;
March 2, 2013.  So Dennis Onyango claims The FT "exaggerated" Agwambo's comments & we are to accept that at face value? If indeed the PM feels "slandered" by the story why isn't he suing the paper? Dennis Onyango's clarification needs to be looked at for what it is. A ruse to deny Raila said any such thing for us locals here in KE while knowing full well that the damage has already been done for his real audience, western investors & the like. The FT isn't your average rag that would mutilate anyone's quotes. His message to the west is clear....if I don't win, expect trouble. It was the same tactic he applied in 2007 to the detriment of the NSE with all his scaremongering. Anyway, we are now finally hours away to D-Day. I hope to see RAO join Kibaki in a well deserved retirement... Here is the article in question as it appeared 2 days ago: www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2f2f735a-828b-11e2-a3e3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2MVF3xc9s...& here is a clarification from The FT posted 2 hours ago where they say: "In an article on March 1 we may have left the incorrect impression after editing that Raila Odinga, Kenya’s prime minister, would not respect the result of a free and fair presidential election. We are happy to be able to clarify this point. We are also pleased that the prime minister’s spokesman does not dispute the accuracy of the quotes in the interview."www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2d90bff8-841c-11e2-b700-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2MVF3xc9s  |
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Post by furaha on Mar 3, 2013 22:20:17 GMT 3
Indeed Horth, the FT isn't your average rag and it doesn't agree to an explanatory note like this unless it feels it has something to explain. It is not a Kenyan newspaper.
So it is more likely mistakes and/or inaccurate interpretations were made by both sides. It is easy to jump to conclusions like you did but difficult to back them up.
Furaha
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Post by mank on Mar 4, 2013 6:48:37 GMT 3
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 4, 2013 6:51:31 GMT 3
In this case, does the PM stand by his views that there will be chaos in case he fails to win? |
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Post by mank on Mar 4, 2013 7:14:27 GMT 3
In this case, does the PM stand by his views that there will be chaos in case he fails to win? Financial Times is a global leader in reporting. It is is simply saying that it did not report anything incorrectly in the first instance, but, apparently as a matter of diplomacy, submitting that PM did not say he would not respect a fair election result ... we are left to interpret the story, but they really have told it all ... the first reporting was not incorrect, that is. Go figure! |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 4, 2013 7:20:50 GMT 3
In this case, does the PM stand by his views that there will be chaos in case he fails to win? Financial Times is a global leader in reporting. It is is simply saying that it did not report anything incorrectly in the first instance, but, apparently as a matter of diplomacy, submitting that PM did not say he would not respect a fair election result ... we are left to interpret the story, but they really have told it all ... the first reporting was not incorrect, that is. Go figure! I am just pulling Mr. Odinga's leg. Remember he stood at Nyayo Stadium the other day and categorically denied that he never said such kind of thing. Later it was reported elsewhere that his supporters were harassing any mzungu reporter they met anywhere for 'misquoting' their little god. |
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Post by b6k on Mar 4, 2013 7:23:17 GMT 3
In this case, does the PM stand by his views that there will be chaos in case he fails to win? Financial Times is a global leader in reporting. It is is simply saying that it did not report anything incorrectly in the first instance, but, apparently as a matter of diplomacy, submitting that PM did not say he would not respect a fair election result ... we are left to interpret the story, but they really have told it all ... the first reporting was not incorrect, that is. Go figure! , if you read all the quotations which have been confirmed to be accurate there is only one conclusion. The Rt. Hon PM suffers from severe foot in mouth disease  |
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Post by merkeju on Mar 4, 2013 9:25:41 GMT 3
Financial Times is a global leader in reporting. It is is simply saying that it did not report anything incorrectly in the first instance, but, apparently as a matter of diplomacy, submitting that PM did not say he would not respect a fair election result ... we are left to interpret the story, but they really have told it all ... the first reporting was not incorrect, that is. Go figure! , if you read all the quotations which have been confirmed to be accurate there is only one conclusion. The Rt. Hon PM suffers from severe foot in mouth disease Then you will believe the CNN story that there are some commandos in the forest with homemade guns rolling on the ground ready for war. Am sure there was a audio to that interview, but Financial times cannot release it, why? |
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Post by b6k on Mar 4, 2013 19:29:30 GMT 3
Mank, if you read all the quotations which have been confirmed to be accurate there is only one conclusion. The Rt. Hon PM suffers from severe foot in mouth disease Then you will believe the CNN story that there are some commandos in the forest with homemade guns rolling on the ground ready for war. Am sure there was a audio to that interview, but Financial times cannot release it, why? , anything is possible in KE as we do have enough extremists in most parts of the nation. Have you seen the MRC carnage? As for the audio version of the interview, ask Dennis Onyango. It seems he may have requested a clarification which he has received. One thing I would consider is since the interview was not aired in audio mode but in print, any clarifications given out in the same format are kosher, ama what do you think? |
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