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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 19, 2013 16:31:21 GMT 3
Don't incite Kenyans over election petition, Uhuru tells Raila  President elect Uhuru Kenyatta addresses port workers after a boardroom meeting with the Kenya Ports Authority management at the Port of Mombasa March 19, 2013. On his right is deputy president-elect William Ruto. Mr Kenyatta asked the Raila Odinga's Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (Cord) to stop inciting Kenyans over the petition challenging his election. President-elect Uhuru Kenyatta has asked the Raila Odinga's Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (Cord) to stop inciting Kenyans over the petition challenging his election. Mr Kenyatta said the matter was before the Supreme Court and Kenyans should wait for its verdict. "The matter is in court and we should not talk in a way that might incite Kenyans. Let us remain calm and wait and stop politicking since Kenyans are tired of politics,” Mr Kenyatta said Tuesday. He restated that the Jubilee team was ready for the outcome, and urged the Cord alliance led by its presidential candidate Raila Odinga to wait for the verdict. “The most important thing at the moment is to ensure that we all enjoy peace,” he said at the Coast where he was briefed by the Mombasa Port management on operations at the facility. He was accompanied by deputy president-elect William Ruto, ministers Chirau Ali Mwakwere (Environment) and Amos Kimunya (Transport), Nairobi Senator-elect Gideon Mbuvi, Najib Balala, among others. On Monday, Prime Minister Raila Odinga claimed that he won the election, saying he had garnered 5.7 million votes against Kenyatta’s 4.5 million. Speaking at Changamwe after arriving in Mombasa where he met leaders elected for the various seats on March 4, Mr Odinga claimed that Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto had not been elected in a free and fair election. According to the PM, in 2007 he had won by 60,000 votes but was robbed of victory, but vowed not to sit back this time round. Said Mr Kenyatta, who did not mention Mr Odinga by name: “We are ready for the verdict but we cannot just wait. What we are doing is preparing ourselves so that when the outcome is in our favour we continue with our jobs,” he said. The president-elect assured workers at the Mombasa Port that his government would not privatise the facility, but would ensure that the efficiency was maintained. He said the port would remain in the hands of the government but measures would be put in place to ensure smooth clearance of goods. Privatization of Mombasa port has been a hotbed of Coast politics since it was broached by the Cabinet in 2010, with local leaders alleging that the government was bent on selling off the facility, sparking controversy and resulting to frequent workers' strikes. “The port belongs to the people of Kenya and we have no intention of selling it,” Mr Kenyatta said amid cheers from workers who gathered at the port headquarters. “But it is saddening to learn that at times cargo stays at the port for over seven days rather than being collected in time to be used for the jobs it was intended for. We want all the stakeholders involved in the clearance of goods to play their part so that we do away with these inefficiencies.” He said smooth operations at the port were important not only for the country’s economy but also for other nations that depend on it for imports. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Do-not-incite-Kenyans-over-election-petition-Uhuru-says/-/1064/1724484/-/11qtngn/-/index.html |
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Post by roughrider on Mar 19, 2013 17:03:01 GMT 3
Uhuru and his ilk should shut up. This is a free country. WE have freedom to associate and to politic as much as we want. After all, nothing is as political as a presidential election petition.
The people have a right to know how the election was bungled. They have a right to protest and complain because billions of their cash was wasted in a process that had been infiltrated, compromised and rigged to favor Uhuru.
Uhuru plans to be a dictator who orders people around like his father did in the 60s and the way he ordered Sonko and Shebesh the other day. But he will need to reckon with the new spirit of freedom in the new constitution.
The inexcusable, heart-rending scheme to foist a pair of sly ICC indictees onto Kenyans will be exposed and will continue to cause angst and outrage.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 19, 2013 17:39:31 GMT 3
Uhuru and his ilk should shut up. This is a free country. WE have freedom to associate and to politic as much as we want. After all, nothing is as political as a presidential election petition. The people have a right to know how the election was bungled. They have a right to protest and complain because billions of their cash was wasted in a process that had been infiltrated, compromised and rigged to favor Uhuru. Uhuru plans to be a dictator who orders people around like his father did in the 60s and the way he ordered Sonko and Shebesh the other day. But he will need to reckon with the new spirit of freedom in the new constitution. The inexcusable, heart-rending scheme to foist a pair of sly ICC indictees onto Kenyans will be exposed and will continue to cause angst and outrage. RR, The reason that Kenyans fought , maimed, butchered ,killed and displaced each other in the post election of 2007 were reckless ,unfounded and inciting statements like the Odinga and his political sycophants made yesterday. The matter is in the Courts and its a common etiquette to respect the Courts and desist from discussing issues which are before the courts lest it be interpreted as follows, 1. He is trying to influence or bulldoze politically the courts to rule in his favor( from evaluation of the petition -It has been established as underwhelming by well Known Lawyers like Ahmed Nassir who sits in the JSC) 2.Preparing grounds for refusing SC rulings just as he refused IEBC pronouncement of the presidential winner and with no alternative means resort to violence and hence get a share in the government (popularly known as Nusu Mkate) . Same script he used in 2007 Post election period only this time he has decided to blind Kenyans by pretending to use the Courts route. Will this strategy work this time around ? It should be noted that in Ivory Coast where actually Raila was a failed mediator we had a similar scenario where outgoing President Laurent Gbagbo tried to cling to power and share it with with his rival Outtarra on frivolous claims that there were massive frauds in the elections which were contradicted by International Observers just as is the case we have right here in Kenya . You very well know what transpired later -violence rocked the region ,Gbagbo was then ousted and Outtarra who had been declared as the winner by electoral commission was re-instated as the President . Gbagbo is in the Hague-ICC cells as we speak. This is to say Raila and CORD/ODM should forget Nusu Mkate Kenyans and the entire world are not for the idea. We have tried ,tasted it and we know from practical point of view it is not productive. |
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Post by roughrider on Mar 19, 2013 18:17:49 GMT 3
Uhuru and his ilk should shut up. This is a free country. WE have freedom to associate and to politic as much as we want. After all, nothing is as political as a presidential election petition. The people have a right to know how the election was bungled. They have a right to protest and complain because billions of their cash was wasted in a process that had been infiltrated, compromised and rigged to favor Uhuru. Uhuru plans to be a dictator who orders people around like his father did in the 60s and the way he ordered Sonko and Shebesh the other day. But he will need to reckon with the new spirit of freedom in the new constitution. The inexcusable, heart-rending scheme to foist a pair of sly ICC indictees onto Kenyans will be exposed and will continue to cause angst and outrage. RR, The reason that Kenyans fought , maimed, butchered ,killed and displaced each other in the post election of 2007 were reckless ,unfounded and inciting statements like the Odinga and his political sycophants made yesterday. The matter is in the Courts and its a common etiquette to respect the Courts and desist from discussing issues which are before the courts lest it be interpreted as follows, 1. He is trying to influence or bulldoze politically the courts to rule in his favor( from evaluation of the petition -It has been established as underwhelming by well Known Lawyers like Ahmed Nassir who sits in the JSC) 2.Preparing grounds for refusing SC rulings just as he refused IEBC pronouncement of the presidential winner and with no alternative means resort to violence and hence get a share in the government (popularly known as Nusu Mkate) . Same script he used in 2007 Post election period only this time he has decided to blind Kenyans by pretending to use the Courts route. Will this strategy work this time around ? It should be noted that in Ivory Coast where actually Raila was a failed mediator we had a similar scenario where outgoing President Laurent Gbagbo tried to cling to power and share it with with his rival Outtarra on frivolous claims that there were massive frauds in the elections which were contradicted by International Observers just as is the case we have right here in Kenya . You very well know what transpired later -violence rocked the region ,Gbagbo was then ousted and Outtarra who had been declared as the winner by electoral commission was re-instated as the President . Gbagbo is in the Hague-ICC cells as we speak. This is to say Raila and CORD/ODM should forget Nusu Mkate Kenyans and the entire world are not for the idea. We have tried ,tasted it and we know from practical point of view it is not productive. I'm sorry if you imagined my response here was an invitation to discuss your runaway railaphobia. Perhaps joblesscorner will humour you. Not me. I will only both with facts: The people who causes PEV, Uhuru and Ruto are at the Hague busy bribing the ICC out of witnesses in order to collapse the case. It does not matter how loud you shout. Our freedom is protected in the constitution. We can assemble, we can petition, we can agitate and we can protest. We can also educate Kenyans on how thieves steal both their money and their votes. CORD supporters are extremely calm. The fear we have to deal with is when the supreme court sends us back to the ballot and when Raila wins, Uhuruto may unleash the thugs of 2007 on innocent Kenyans. That is the fear. I understand you to be someone who is paid to be online 24-7 posting pro-uhuru material and articles like an unthinking robot, so understand when i say: my last response to you on this. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 19, 2013 19:20:16 GMT 3
Calm down ndugu RR. No freedoms and/or liberties operate in a vacuum, not even in America the self-styled free world. Responsibility has always been the caveat. If your freedom is going to interfere with my own, you simply give up such freedom. So you can agitate, picket, ptotest etc, but just make sure it does not turn into stonning innocent motorists, interfering with other lives as we recently witnessed in KU and downtown the other day.
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Post by deyiengs on Mar 19, 2013 20:48:51 GMT 3
RR, The reason that Kenyans fought , maimed, butchered ,killed and displaced each other in the post election of 2007 were reckless ,unfounded and inciting statements like the Odinga and his political sycophants made yesterday. NO way! the reason why people fought was because two tribes; Kikuyus and Kalenjins had long-times grudges that had not been solved. But in other places like Kisumu and Kibera (read: Luo zones), the police unleashed a shoot-to-kill order by the head of police after Mwai Kibaki, in the middle of the night, declared himself to be "duly" elected. Don't forget that. Remember also that the reason why people didn't fight this time was because the two tribes, Kikuyu and Kalenjin, coalesced. |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 19, 2013 22:30:02 GMT 3
Looks like Raila has conceded and agreed not to discuss the matters now in court. But he would also like Uhuru to stop being presidential!.....lol
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 20, 2013 0:34:11 GMT 3
Looks like Raila has conceded and agreed not to discuss the matters now in court. But he would also like Uhuru to stop being presidential!.....lol Kamale, dont laugh now, we are dealing with a man who is losing it very fast. When I saw him in Mombasa yesterday, I concluded that the poor chap was going bonkers. |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 20, 2013 0:53:58 GMT 3
Looks like Raila has conceded and agreed not to discuss the matters now in court. But he would also like Uhuru to stop being presidential!.....lol Kamale, What Raila does not understand or his advisers are failing him in is that the competition between him and Uhuru ended in Mar 09 when IEBC declared the victor of the Presidential election with more than 50% +1 and announced the President elect as Uhuru Kenyatta and not unless the Supreme Court makes a ruling contrary to that decision then Uhuru is the President elect awaiting just to be sworn in. And as MM alludes too somebody should wake Raila up and tell him campaign period ended on 2nd Mar and his antics wont tilt a bit the decision making by the Supreme court judges. Honestly I feel the pain for this man and what he is going through after the electoral loss . The more he tries to show he is still in the game the more he comes out as a sore loser -Putting inconsideration his age and the campaign trail hangover he needs a month holiday outside the country, this will help him come to terms with reality and assist him in the planning of his future endeavors . |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 20, 2013 1:49:55 GMT 3
Looks like Raila has conceded and agreed not to discuss the matters now in court. But he would also like Uhuru to stop being presidential!.....lol Kamale, What Raila does not understand or his advisers are failing him in is that the competition between him and Uhuru ended in Mar 09 when IEBC declared the victor of the Presidential election with more than 50% +1 and announced the President elect as Uhuru Kenyatta and not unless the Supreme Court makes a ruling contrary to that decision then Uhuru is the President elect awaiting just to be sworn in. And as MM alludes too somebody should wake Raila up and tell him campaign period ended on 2nd Mar and his antics wont tilt a bit the decision making by the Supreme court judges. Honestly I feel the pain for this man and what he is going through after the electoral loss . The more he tries to show he is still in the game the more he comes out as a sore loser -Putting inconsideration his age and the campaign trail hangover he needs a month holiday outside the country, this will help him come to terms with reality and assist him in the planning of his future endeavors . Nowayhaha, Exactly. If Raila only walked back to 2008, he will clearly remember how government vehicles and security were accorded to him soon after it was agreed that he would be the PM and long before the accord was signed and him sworn in. I, as a matter of fact remember that at some point, some members of the team wanted him to return the cars and do away with his security when the negotiations seemed to have hit a new snag, but he and his close associates rejected the idea. |
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Post by giorgikims1 on Mar 20, 2013 2:52:57 GMT 3
Uhuru and his ilk should shut up. This is a free country. WE have freedom to associate and to politic as much as we want. After all, nothing is as political as a presidential election petition. The people have a right to know how the election was bungled. They have a right to protest and complain because billions of their cash was wasted in a process that had been infiltrated, compromised and rigged to favor Uhuru. Uhuru plans to be a dictator who orders people around like his father did in the 60s and the way he ordered Sonko and Shebesh the other day. But he will need to reckon with the new spirit of freedom in the new constitution. The inexcusable, heart-rending scheme to foist a pair of sly ICC indictees onto Kenyans will be exposed and will continue to cause angst and outrage. How come only railas votes are stolen,bungled or whatever other word you would like to use? From the time of kijana wamalwa in thika in 1996 to 2007 and now 2013 this guys votes are always 'stolen'...why...Does it mean that he is such a careless person with his votes? Or is he simply a perennial loser? Methinks the later |
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Post by mank on Mar 20, 2013 7:15:36 GMT 3
Looks like Raila has conceded and agreed not to discuss the matters now in court. But he would also like Uhuru to stop being presidential!.....lol Perhaps he's finally realizing that he's not catching the attention of the usual Uhuru with whom they exchanged jabs, but Uhuru president-elect. Perhaps it is now that those who have been yapping how wise he was fabricating a case instead of conceding with respect finally realize what a foul play the man has been in since the elections. |
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Post by weledi on Mar 20, 2013 7:16:02 GMT 3
Its amazing how Raila never learns. He does the same things expecting different results. If he wants the presidency, he should adopt a new style of politicking. Its sad (and funny at the same time) that he will never change his game plan and ultimately never get the presidency.
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Post by mank on Mar 20, 2013 7:20:22 GMT 3
Its amazing how Raila never learns. He does the same things expecting different results. If he wants the presidency, he should adopt a new style of politicking. Its sad (and funny at the same time) that he will never change his game plan and ultimately never get the presidency. Let's be fair. He changes. In 2007 he went to the streets. This time he's at the Supreme Court. |
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Post by lima on Mar 20, 2013 7:28:22 GMT 3
Has Raila ever conceded defeat in his life?
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Post by weledi on Mar 20, 2013 7:40:18 GMT 3
Its amazing how Raila never learns. He does the same things expecting different results. If he wants the presidency, he should adopt a new style of politicking. Its sad (and funny at the same time) that he will never change his game plan and ultimately never get the presidency. Let's be fair. He changes. In 2007 he went to the streets. This time he's at the Supreme Court. He cannot use "korti bandia" this time round. I bet he is now looking for another line to use just in case he loses |
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Post by sindbad on Mar 20, 2013 9:11:15 GMT 3
We are doing in social media, what the politicians quote Raila, is doing in public. But we can still criticize him. True he is a public leader, yet leadership exists at every level, so I see societal failure which must be addressed by all "we are our leaders".
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Post by OJ on Mar 20, 2013 15:20:21 GMT 3
I too found it very unfortunate for RAO to blurt out poll figures to the multitudes in Mombasa who, in my view, are absolutely powerless to change anything that has already been declared. Given that the matter is already in court, he needs to completely steer clear of the election matters until the final verdict is reached. I feel sorry for the gullible wananchi who readily believed him, only for them to face a different outcome at the Supreme Court, if it rules for the status quo. We are all eager to know what really happened, and how it happened. Let him not let the anxiety get the better of him. I supported him but I don't support his actions at present. It is just a matter of a few days and we shall have put the matter of the elections to rest.
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Post by podp on Mar 20, 2013 17:16:02 GMT 3
I too found it very unfortunate for RAO to blurt out poll figures to the multitudes in Mombasa who, in my view, are absolutely powerless to change anything that has already been declared. Given that the matter is already in court, he needs to completely steer clear of the election matters until the final verdict is reached. I feel sorry for the gullible wananchi who readily believed him, only for them to face a different outcome at the Supreme Court, if it rules for the status quo. We are all eager to know what really happened, and how it happened. Let him not let the anxiety get the better of him. I supported him but I don't support his actions at present. It is just a matter of a few days and we shall have put the matter of the elections to rest. you sound like Jasper Ochieng Odindo 20 March 2013 4:28 PM As much as the PM maybe right it maybe prudent to take a step back and avoid speaking too much. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000079730&story_title=Kenya-Raila-opposes-call-for-ministers-to-resignrelated story at www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/PM-Odinga-tells-ministers-to-remain-in-office-/-/1064/1725696/-/v0bgrw/-/index.html |
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Post by mugabe on Mar 20, 2013 17:22:39 GMT 3
wow! The balance of power in Jukwaa has shifted ama nini? too many jubilee guys here. Can someone please invite reporter 911 i miss the slug fest, the posts in bold and the ama? at the end lol
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