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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 16, 2013 19:26:37 GMT 3
ELIUD OWALLO CALLED IN FOR QUESTIONING OVER 'DESTABILISATION PLOT'www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/CID-summons-former-Raila-aide-Owalo/-/1064/1916562/-/whxhb8z/-/index.htmlA 'PLOT' to destabilise a [lawful] government is essentially treasonable. The government of Uhuru Kenyatta is basically saying, they are investigating Raila for treason, and collaboration with you know who! It is a dangerous move, this witchhunt to victimise Agwambo, because it testifies, after Raila's gallant concession in the aftermath of a confidently faulty election, that Uhuru Kenyatta has run out of political ideas and gone bankrupt, and is setting the stage for Mutahi Ngunyi's advice, to decisively and for good deal with this eternal pest, this enigma. Even before the IEBC --the one Ori Omwenga ever epithetically coins as the totally discredited and inept-- manages to reconcile its fuzzy math, so that it can announce the official tallies of its fictitious summations, the ICC indictee Uhuruto feels so cornered that he is inventing a 'destabilisation plot', and to that effect, summoning Eliud Owalo, Raila's electoral side-kick, in for questioning. Destabilisation, the word used by the Jubilee government CID, conjures up images of treason. I said above. Because Uhuru Kenyatta has systematically availed himself of the services of a crack english PR-buro --- see its exploits in imaging the ICC as an anti-African court, I logically assume equivalents are at it again, and the word 'destabilisation' has been weighed the way the God Apollon is reputed to have weighed his 'notes' on the harp, as he performed before the Gods in the palace of Olympian Zeus. In High Heaven. Lawyers like AG Muigai burnt the midnight oil on that word before it went to press! So let us cut the crap. Uhuru is saying Raila is plotting to overthrow his government. So he is in his right to arrest him. But he is scared of arresting him direct, so he is beginning a witchhunt for circumstancial evidence, and may be taking a leaf from Obama and Bush, he will 'waterboard'  the terrorist suspect Owallo until he confesses, and wholly incriminates his boss! [Read] plotting to 'destabilise' the government, puts one as an ally of the infamous Al-Shabaab, who have been tossing grenades around Nairobi city in operation mayhem create. I mean it isn't like any fools are left around in this digital world. NB: Prof. Kaimenyi has just sacked 250,000 teachers, effectively meaning the educational calender is defunct, unless the good professor is merely a sad joke to be ignoree, like some impotent foolish bureaucrat. Mama Ngina, Uhuru's mother, claimed on sunday the teachers are being used by evil forces against her sons government. Good mother, but stupid and ignorant of issues there. And Kibaki's other wife --the one Kimemia does not like, said something equally stupid. But am not surprised, having seen her live performance under some mild questioning, eg about her level of education! Now, Beseiged by so much incompetence around him, yet real problems on the ground amount, one must create an external enemy to rally the troops and buy breathing space. Raila, is a perfect cast for the son of Jommo. This fishmonger scares enough people for them to loose their senses and believe any moron indulging himself in idiocy telling tales about him. And the director of CID, is our moron in chief today. The trouble is, real mistakes made in the real world have real consequeces. I think we heading there. For a dose of reality check. Not a bad thing. Reality checks. As soon as Ruto's trial starts, he may just have to relinquish some of his responsibilities, so that he is not distracted from his laborius court cases. You can not run Kenya part time. But one can try. We have a ring-side seat!
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Post by omundu on Jul 16, 2013 20:37:04 GMT 3
So jakaswanga, you reckon the unyutto are planning a 'ken saro wiwa' of sorts ? Obviously with the risk of its attendant consequences to the fabric of the nation and regional/global geo-politics. (Remember the delegations, including madiba that visited abacha trying to plead with him)
Well, good luck to them. They say, no guts no glory, and it seems cornered folk will resort to anything; including the thought that ateempts to silence one man will suddenly bring nirvana to dawn. Hahaha.
Well, the modus operandi is well known by now: mutahi tweets a plan (perhaps in cohorts with intelligentsia), gauge public reaction, establish counter-strategies, establish other avenues (silencing or threatening vocal supporters), put plans in motion, send GSU to major towns, then initiate night of long knives, sit back and pray that the wananchi that doth protest does not reach critical mass, breath a sigh of relief that the plan worked but keep checking your back. After sometime mutahi then tweets in mockery that a revolution didn't work.
It is a life of a gambler: the "let's push the envelope to establish how far..."
Where is my popcorn again ?
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 16, 2013 22:14:44 GMT 3
Childhood memories affect us in ways that we are never fully aware of; that is why shrinks rake it by the hour just on the basis of "tell me about your childhood". A man grows up with memories of daddy being run out of town, on the tail end of a barrage of stones (with bullets flying back in return). He remembers how it was dealt with: fantastic tales of alleged coups, house arrest, detention without trial. But it was all unfinished business, because the other daddy's son is still around, making a pest of himself. Filial piety obligates one to finish that the father did not finish and on the basis of the best lessons learned from daddy. And which one of us would not be upset if people tried to stone our daddy? We might object to Ngunyi's crude honesty, but, in light of Kenya's history, why not "decisively and for good"?
On a tangent ... A few months ago I read various analyses on Assad and why he keeps fighting, even though Syria is rapidly becoming the Somalia of the Middle East. The consensus, from a fair number of respectable people, is that mummy told him that "this is how your father would have handled it, and he did handle several similar situation by doing ... So, then, Little Assad, go out there and be the kind of man that would make daddy proud of you".
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 16, 2013 22:28:57 GMT 3
Childhood memories affect us in ways that we are never fully aware of; that is why shrinks rake it by the hour just on the basis of "tell me about your childhood". A man grows up with memories of daddy being run out of town, on the tail end of a barrage of stones (with bullets flying back in return). He remembers how it was dealt with: fantastic tales of alleged coups, house arrest, detention without trial. But it was all unfinished business, because the other daddy's son is still around, making a pest of himself. Filial piety obligates one to finish that the father did not finish and on the basis of the best lessons learned from daddy. And which one of us would not be upset if people tried to stone our daddy? We might object to Ngunyi's crude honesty, but, in light of Kenya's history, why not "decisively and for good"? On a tangent ... A few months ago I read various analyses on Assad and why he keeps fighting, even though Syria is rapidly becoming the Somalia of the Middle East. The consensus, from a fair number of respectable people, is that mummy told him that "this is how your father would have handled it, and he did handle several similar situation by doing ... So, then, Little Assad, go out there and be the kind of man that would make daddy proud of you". I do not know whether these are on a light touch or not! but i remember a similar tale being told of why three generations of the Husseins, first family of Baathist Iraq, died post 9-11 even if Saddam had no hand in the New York attack. Unfinished business and filial piety between the Bushes and the Husseins! and the dark quips of mothers and spouses to sons and fathers! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 16, 2013 22:41:04 GMT 3
So jakaswanga, you reckon the unyutto are planning a 'ken saro wiwa' of sorts ? Obviously with the risk of its attendant consequences to the fabric of the nation and regional/global geo-politics. (Remember the delegations, including madiba that visited abacha trying to plead with him) Well, good luck to them. They say, no guts no glory, and it seems cornered folk will resort to anything; including the thought that ateempts to silence one man will suddenly bring nirvana to dawn. Hahaha. Well, the modus operandi is well known by now: mutahi tweets a plan (perhaps in cohorts with intelligentsia), gauge public reaction, establish counter-strategies, establish other avenues (silencing or threatening vocal supporters), put plans in motion, send GSU to major towns, then initiate night of long knives, sit back and pray that the wananchi that doth protest does not reach critical mass, breath a sigh of relief that the plan worked but keep checking your back. After sometime mutahi then tweets in mockery that a revolution didn't work. It is a life of a gambler: the "let's push the envelope to establish how far..." Where is my popcorn again ? Nothing is working for the guy, he needs a war. But we already have one in Somalia. So he needs a scapegoat to deflect the harsh glare spotted on his incompetence. Yesterday the market research surfaced in conclusion: majority Kenyans conclude they are worse off under UK. The economy, hyped sky-high by the world bank and IMF, is not hoodwinking the man on the street. Fuel is up ---because of a surchage at the port whose effect was denied would be inflationary. There is something childish about sacking the whole teaching force of a country. It proves guys are in the wrong jobs. We teachers now know why the TSC wanted the court to impound the KNUT building. So that it could be sold cheap to a connected tycoon at a fixed auction. A primitive accumulation scheme. Knowing the effort it took veteran unionists like Mwalimu Ambrose Adongo [long-standing firebrand KNUT secretary] to achieve these things, and seing goons in the pocket of Uhuru Kenyatta blatantly plot to embezzle these properties, has revealed more than Jubilee would have liked. Not just trying to use the court to break KNUT, but trying to misuse the court to nyakua by confiscation. These are some of the bad news the Raila plot is meant to deflect. |
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 16, 2013 23:05:14 GMT 3
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Post by omundu on Jul 16, 2013 23:24:54 GMT 3
So jakaswanga, you reckon the unyutto are planning a 'ken saro wiwa' of sorts ? Obviously with the risk of its attendant consequences to the fabric of the nation and regional/global geo-politics. (Remember the delegations, including madiba that visited abacha trying to plead with him) Well, good luck to them. They say, no guts no glory, and it seems cornered folk will resort to anything; including the thought that ateempts to silence one man will suddenly bring nirvana to dawn. Hahaha. Well, the modus operandi is well known by now: mutahi tweets a plan (perhaps in cohorts with intelligentsia), gauge public reaction, establish counter-strategies, establish other avenues (silencing or threatening vocal supporters), put plans in motion, send GSU to major towns, then initiate night of long knives, sit back and pray that the wananchi that doth protest does not reach critical mass, breath a sigh of relief that the plan worked but keep checking your back. After sometime mutahi then tweets in mockery that a revolution didn't work. It is a life of a gambler: the "let's push the envelope to establish how far..." Where is my popcorn again ? Nothing is working for the guy, he needs a war. But we already have one in Somalia. So he needs a scapegoat to deflect the harsh glare spotted on his incompetence. Yesterday the market research surfaced in conclusion: majority Kenyans conclude they are worse off under UK. The economy, hyped sky-high by the world bank and IMF, is not hoodwinking the man on the street. Fuel is up ---because of a surchage at the port whose effect was denied would be inflationary. There is something childish about sacking the whole teaching force of a country. It proves guys are in the wrong jobs. We teachers now know why the TSC wanted the court to impound the KNUT building. So that it could be sold cheap to a connected tycoon at a fixed auction. A primitive accumulation scheme. Knowing the effort it took veteran unionists like Mwalimu Ambrose Adongo [long-standing firebrand KNUT secretary] to achieve these things, and seing goons in the pocket of Uhuru Kenyatta blatantly plot to embezzle these properties, has revealed more than Jubilee would have liked. Not just trying to use the court to break KNUT, but trying to misuse the court to nyakua by confiscation. These are some of the bad news the Raila plot is meant to deflect. Otishotish. A perfect example of you theory would be bush junior's foray into iraq to complete what his father could finish. Jakaswanga. Your explanation makes sense and it goes to show how low we have sunk. It is/may be a very cold winter (next five years) Attacking raila: the mudslinging worked while he was PM. Reason being that he was part of leadership in Government. Right now, it is a completely different story because he is the opposition and nowhere, in my research, have I found such a move by uhunyutto succeeding. Nowhere in history. Anyone is welcome to research it. Basically, in political science, citizens look at the s-elected leadership when things go wrong. A perfect example is obama who won by a high percentage in 2008 but the democrats lost big time in the midterms. The people did not care whether the bad economy was due to the intransigence by the republican opposition or not. It is just human psyche. I remember seeing sossions tweet to ruto, asking him why not just simplify the matter and divert the laptop funds to the teachers. Why really go the wrong route and show people they lack ideas on governance by blaming raila and others. I guess my point is: will pointing fingers, firing teachers and other intimidation tactics work if the teachers still don't go back to work ? It won't. How about the medics joining in soon ? High prices ? Deficits etc ? If they try approach it the way they have, they. Will end up fighting everyone. Trust me, ask Morsi. What happened to him. These chaps need some lateral thinking. Not kifua tu! The contemporary world has changed. That said, am I the only one seeing some international influence in all these developments (BRETTON WOODS). Look how they started the ball rolling in egypt. Or am I just being a conspiracist ? |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 17, 2013 17:53:56 GMT 3
and the dark quips of mothers and spouses to sons and fathers! Jakaswanga: I note that the Queen Mother has broken her long silence, to identify and denounce teachers as part of an evil plot to derail her son's wise and benevolent leadership. Defend yourself, sir! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 17, 2013 20:17:37 GMT 3
and the dark quips of mothers and spouses to sons and fathers! Jakaswanga: I note that the Queen Mother has broken her long silence, to identify and denounce teachers as part of an evil plot to derail her son's wise and benevolent leadership. Defend yourself, sir! In the Zulu empire, and a few others down south, we would call her THE ELEPHANT MOTHER! And it is not for nothing that their Highnesses, the Elephant Mothers of this World, are banned by protocol from expressing political opinion in public. It leads to jokes about the King, or Muthamaki, still being a baby, and Mummy changing his nappies in public. There is somebody called Government Spokesperson, a CRIER in traditional Afrika, and if the office of the King has anything to communicate to the public, this 'Goebbels' shall do the crying. it is a neat detail on the 'hygiene' of King to citizens communication. Now, the elephant mother has become a joke, revealing nothing but a parochially stupid mind, consumed with paranoia! How much land does she own, on behalf of her son? ---See if she answers that next sunday service! |
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Post by mank on Jul 17, 2013 23:17:41 GMT 3
Politricians! Is Mithika Linturi in that clip planting a dagger on Raila's backside, or do I read this wrong? When did things change this way (not that I expect politricians to have an identity in any case)? But why ask ... I never saw pigs walk in a line. They keep turning this way then the other, at times even 1800 and 3600, so it would be in keeping with the identity.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 20, 2013 11:07:25 GMT 3
Politricians! Is Mithika Linturi in that clip planting a dagger on Raila's backside, or do I read this wrong? When did things change this way (not that I expect politricians to have an identity in any case)? But why ask ... I never saw pigs walk in a line. They keep turning this way then the other, at times even 180 0 and 360 0, so it would be in keeping with the identity. iT IS called 'shambolic gait'  ! at one point them Mpigs even make an unscheduled U-turn and scurry back a few paces, before retracing their motions, twisting in all directions! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 20, 2013 11:31:30 GMT 3
ATAVISTICALLY FLIRTING WITH AUTHORTARIANISM IS AN OPTION UHURUTO MUST AVOID.How not to treat the opposition, or the BAD SCRIPT, which currently the PORK is leafing through is a dead end. Of course I know Vladimir Putin of Russia, Alexander Lukashenko of Bellorussia, and a host of similar president-elects are using that script with unabated recklessness, and they do provide tempting examples of how a real man does this things. But Lo, it is a long time since they tore themselves to pieces communaly like we just did in our famous 2007 PEV. We need some time to heal and forget a bit, before we re-indulge the steps that led us there! So for you Uhuru Kenyatta and side-kick William Ruto, it has to be the other script. The good samaritan oneRemember there are countries where the leader of the opposition and his staff, are considered potential replacements to an incumbent government, and are therefore invited for instance to security briefings. ---Not summoned ominously to criminal interrogations by the counter-terrorist police! [Okay, I agree to Kenyans that is till light years ahead, and is currently stranger than fiction! but it is an idea out there, already in practice elsewhere. We should know] ...Now ... Such briefings, by staff from the directorate of intelligence, are not considered the prerogative nor the privelleged monopoly of the sitting government only, indeed the parliamentary security commission which oversees the intelligence, will also consist of Mps from both sides of the divide, and without discrimination on party allegiance, get the choice beefs from the sleuths that make sure we wake up in peace, and not in pieces!It is after all national security, and not government security. And of course PUBLIC SAFETY! This thinking is important for a generation born post independence, a generation that has travelled around and knows mother's dish may not be the best in the world. Such a generation, having voiced the economic ambition to INDUSTRIALISE and join the club of nations going places, must then also come to terms with the political infrastructure necessary to sustain that ambition. The political mannerisms, the digital protocols as it were! As it is, what I see is 'KANU village mentality', the rivalvry of two women in a polygamous homestead. Uhuru snatches the VIP lounges away from Raila's LIST of privilleges; Uhuru wags a vicious finger at Raila's PA Owallo; Ouru sends his pack of barkers like Linturi to woef-woef at Raila and tag at his coat-tails; Ruto threatens Raila with arrest in a fit. Raila's benefits are delayed while Kibaki is over-stuffed, etc etc pettyness. And that is a guy they beat with less than 1/2 a million disputed votes. New thinking would entail a form of coalitional building, to create an atmosphere of national cohesion and social stability, healing, so that the INDUSTRIALISATION AGENDA can be fast-tracked. Every political observer knows, no nation is gonna rise up when it is in social discord. No, it is going to sort the personal problems out first, do the domestics first, even by civil war, before it finds time to do long-term planning and do economic miracles. The mismanagement of political relations, the terrorisation of opponents by targeted intimidations, and the victimisation of election loosers, humiliations and colonial-style harrassments, creates the dynamism of resistance and combat and confrontationalism. If Uhuruto is going for Raila as Mutahi adviced them, let them rest assured all else now stops, as the KENYATTA VS ODINGA SHOW comes to town. Kenya goes to a standstill. Their agenda stilted in inertia. Raila may have no aptitude for running an office --(nor does Uhuruto for that matter, all their front of verisimitude despite)-- but when it comes to mobilisation and politicking around with the people, Raila is of course the proven Maestro. Does the digital generation have what it takes to disrobe the old legend/Lion? Or are they premature, like Lakunle's futile challenge, in Soyinka's the Old man and the Jewel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_and_the_JewelNow, like the famous character of a Russian poet. Uhuru is a man aware of his guilt. His head knows his hands can not implement what his heart desires ---the destruction of Raila Odinga. Raila Odinga for better or for worse is the idea of reform in Kenya. Our sunday best however tartered. That his person and time in office were the furthest things from reform one could imagine, and yet this has not nullifed [this] his mythology in the public market place, should be the object of study 'in brand resilience in changing political dispensations'. And the progressive drought in Kenya. Meanwhile: This pulling power of authentic sedition that surrounds Raila, this ability to cast Uhuruto sucessfully as 'mischievous child rascals who ran away with the cake reserved for their granddad 4'O-clock tea', to cast them as 'water melon usurpers of the national dream of reform', to cast them irredeemably as illigitimate [both historically and electorally], and have them insecurely fretting in tortured sleep and brooding archaic plots to sooth their nerves, is the spectre that haunts our digital duo and punctures the dynamism off the wheels of their reign.And so ---as part of what I refer to as archaic plots they are forced to brood-- they bully Raila with childish taunts like denying him the VIP lounge, humiliating DGI Gichangi by sending him to burglar Raila's office like some petty thief! (The Major General is obviously paying the price of being imposed upon Uhuru who had wanted to get rid of him as too close to Kibaki, and as part of the Devil Entity who forced him to cede, albeit temporarily, to the Mudavadi project.). Now here they are, harrassing Raila's boy scout Owallo. Though it is noted CID Director Muhori did not think much of the thing, and so would not commit anything to writing! ---Smart guy Muhoro! he left the serious case of DESTABILISATION OF A LAWFUL GOVERNMENT to be handled by juniors who would not even identify themselves on the telephone! Then you know he, Muhoro of CID, knows it is all bullsh!t. Another PLOY hatched by a rogue cabinet of lame toys ---if you remember the other ploy they hatched to CLOSE DOWN ALL PRIMARY SCHOOLS to deal with Sossion!Now they plot another ploy of a coup to deal with Raila! Too much bull in cabinet can be too much Sh!t for the security services! Ouru Kenyatta, listen to me now. Forget everything and do only one thing. Build a standard gauge Railway from Mombasa to Kampala in 4 years --if you escape the ICC and the clutches of the lady Kamalet calls Fatty. New Rail as your achievement would be an unbeatable legacy! Put your all in it. Remember the Uganda Railway of IBEA-CO, together with the Owen Falls Dam were the two infrastructural Paradigms that set the modern economy in East Africa on capitalist paths. With the Railway and Electro-Power came the cities, and large-scale agro-commercial enterprises. You renew this pact with the future. That is how you cease being a Don Quixote, merely one the latest useless African Head of State. Ngunyi's advice of finishing Raila off? you would be a moron to contemplate. Build a rail and retire, 5 years in power passes in a flash. You will see. I have finally indulged Onyango the Digital Oloo and cut you a large piece of choice slack! Eat it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 3:10:49 GMT 3
Police set to quiz more suspects as mystery over ‘March 4 Movement’ deepens Police will interview more people this week to establish the link between former Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s chief campaigner, Mr Eliud Owalo, and the little-known March 4 Movement. Sunday Nation has established that the Criminal Investigations Department (CID) has opened an inquiry file to establish the link between Mr Owalo and the alleged movement. CID has summoned Mr Owalo to appear at their offices for interrogation on Monday from 10 am. The case is being handled by Inspector Geoffrey Kinyua and Inspector David Cheruiyot of Serious Crime Unit at CID. According to a letter dated July 17 from head of Serious Crime Unit, Mr John Kariuki, Mr Owalo and others “plot to create civil unrest and plot nationwide demonstrations which will lead to discrediting government”. According to tipsters privy to investigations, the movement based in Nairobi’s Kilimani is fashioned towards Egypt’s “people power demonstrations” that deposed former President Hosni Mubarak from power two years ago. The movement was allegedly focused on tapping into discontentment of Kenyans who are unemployed and feeling the weight of high inflation and the high cost of living. Sections of trade unions and civil societies were expected to be roped in to mobilise Kenyans who would have pitched tent on the streets to achieve their means. Sunday Nation learnt that the CID accessed the information from individuals the movement was attempting to recruit. One of the tipsters claimed the movement was to be funded by foreign embassies. Also in the CID letter, it is alleged that they have information Mr Owalo was sponsoring the youths countrywide to cause chaos. Mr Owalo’s lawyer A.T. Oluoch, while replying to CID in a letter dated July 17, asked the police to name the complainant and the date he recorded a statement incriminating his client. He also sought to know whether his client was a witness or a suspect in the investigations. “Specify whether a report was made to the police in relation to the allegations against our clients, when and the occurrence book number and the person who made the report. Specify the allegations you are investigating in writing, which you never did,” said Oluoch. On Tuesday, Mr Owalo appeared at the CID offices and dismissed the claims as cheap propaganda being peddled by government. He said CID officers were upset after he penned an opinion article calling for dissolution of Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission. On Wednesday, Cord leaders led by Senator Anyang’ Nyong’o said that by interviewing Mr Owalo, the Government was targeting Cord leaders Mr Raila Odinga and Mr Kalonzo Musyoka. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mystery-over-March-4-Movement-deepens/-/1064/1921288/-/72rdl9z/-/index.html |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 21, 2013 5:15:19 GMT 3
Police set to quiz more suspects as mystery over ‘March 4 Movement’ deepens Police will interview more people this week to establish the link between former Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s chief campaigner, Mr Eliud Owalo, and the little-known March 4 Movement. Sunday Nation has established that the Criminal Investigations Department (CID) has opened an inquiry file to establish the link between Mr Owalo and the alleged movement. CID has summoned Mr Owalo to appear at their offices for interrogation on Monday from 10 am. The case is being handled by Inspector Geoffrey Kinyua and Inspector David Cheruiyot of Serious Crime Unit at CID. According to a letter dated July 17 from head of Serious Crime Unit, Mr John Kariuki, Mr Owalo and others “plot to create civil unrest and plot nationwide demonstrations which will lead to discrediting government”. According to tipsters privy to investigations, the movement based in Nairobi’s Kilimani is fashioned towards Egypt’s “people power demonstrations” that deposed former President Hosni Mubarak from power two years ago. The movement was allegedly focused on tapping into discontentment of Kenyans who are unemployed and feeling the weight of high inflation and the high cost of living. Sections of trade unions and civil societies were expected to be roped in to mobilise Kenyans who would have pitched tent on the streets to achieve their means. Sunday Nation learnt that the CID accessed the information from individuals the movement was attempting to recruit. One of the tipsters claimed the movement was to be funded by foreign embassies. Also in the CID letter, it is alleged that they have information Mr Owalo was sponsoring the youths countrywide to cause chaos. Mr Owalo’s lawyer A.T. Oluoch, while replying to CID in a letter dated July 17, asked the police to name the complainant and the date he recorded a statement incriminating his client. He also sought to know whether his client was a witness or a suspect in the investigations. “Specify whether a report was made to the police in relation to the allegations against our clients, when and the occurrence book number and the person who made the report. Specify the allegations you are investigating in writing, which you never did,” said Oluoch. On Tuesday, Mr Owalo appeared at the CID offices and dismissed the claims as cheap propaganda being peddled by government. He said CID officers were upset after he penned an opinion article calling for dissolution of Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission. On Wednesday, Cord leaders led by Senator Anyang’ Nyong’o said that by interviewing Mr Owalo, the Government was targeting Cord leaders Mr Raila Odinga and Mr Kalonzo Musyoka. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mystery-over-March-4-Movement-deepens/-/1064/1921288/-/72rdl9z/-/index.htmlForward to the past but in dynamic digital mode. But is it the post-1969 or post-1982 past? But they are off to a good start, along known paths. So far the "the little-known March 4 Movement" is only little-known because someone in authority has just dreamt it up. It will soon become a "well-known terrorist group", with links to Al-This and Al-That. And one can never go wrong with "funded by foreign embassies". Bloody colonial bast*rds at it again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 5:43:15 GMT 3
Forward to the past but in dynamic digital mode. But is it the post-1969 or post-1982 past?
But they are off to a good start, along known paths. So far the "the little-known March 4 Movement" is only little-known because someone in authority has just dreamt it up. It will soon become a "well-known terrorist group", with links to Al-This and Al-That.
And one can never go wrong with "funded by foreign embassies". Bloody colonial bast*rds at it again.
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I'm just laughing. Was thinking the same thing. Really? they want to include "foreign embassies" in their schemes here? They aren't talking about the chinese of that we can be sure. The same embassies they have to beg to allow mira into their countries? Such bad strategy, then again when you're lying it's had to come across as legit.
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Post by kamalet on Jul 21, 2013 9:58:15 GMT 3
A couple of years ago I saw many Kenyans hail the promulgation of the new constitution which they voted for overwhelmingly. As many know, just like poor Kethi,I did not register to vote and did not vote for or against the document. There were stories of how many rights were secured, how we set up independent commissions to ruin our lives etc. We even voted for a document that killed the PMs post and created an executive system. The police service was even made independent of the executive with its own service commission and its boss vetted by parliament with powers that said he does not get direction from anyone! All this we hailed.
So now this 'independent' police service gets wind of a plot to destabilise a 'legitimate and democratically elected government' and fingers seem to point to some characters close to the defeated candidate in the past election as some of the organisers. The ODM brigade of Jukwaa now conveniently forget all the independent institutions they were hailing and can only see a meddling government hell bent on fixing Raila.
Now we all know that Raila is not exactly the 'clean as pamba' character he claims to be and even has the dubious distinction of have been involved in a previously failed coup attempt....so one cannot surely put it past him to conceive another attempt. He is also a well known copy cat so trying to use an Arab Spring Uprising strategy is something that he is quite capable of conceiving. He of course cannot manage this alone and the possibility of using his lead aide is quite feasible.
The only problem I see is that Raila is surrounded by some rather foolish advisers who keep fumbling and screwing up on anything they are tasked to do. The most recent incident on Kethi Kilonzo is sufficient example of such stupidity on the part of his advisers.
From where I sit, this 4th March movement that is the cause of this brouhaha is as conceivable as the stolen election voters acknowledge slip used by kethi. The possibility that the Raila aide in question is involved seems even plausible especially when one is seeking an explanation of the recently stolen stash of several thousand dollars in Raila's office - forget about the fact that holding that amount of forex is not exactly allowed by law and any strong government should have arraigned Raila in court under money laundering laws.
When the Mwakenya crackdown was in force, it was the reaction of a paranoid government that much preferred trumping up charges and through torture extract confessions that led to easy convictions. Today we have a government with a legitimate government in office with a majority in parliament so the need to go for a weak opponent does not seem to fly. We have an independent judiciary that can surely ensure that any crimes pegged on alleged political oppression would not pass through the courts. So why would anyone decide that they can lie that we are headed for oppression just because some crime is being investigated against a person so close to the former PM?
If Owallo has nothing to hide, he should go and cooperate with the authorities and if it is a mistake, he demands an apology and life goes on. If the police have enough evidence to charge, Owallo will have his day in court and if found innocent he goes home free, but then if it turns out to be true, then he must face the full force of the law on treason alongside anyone anyone else involved.
I find it unfortunate that this issue is being politicised by the ODM/CORD politicians as it could end up being a political competition when their counterpart in the Jubilee side decide to call their own conference making all sorts of allegations and this does little to enhance any peaceful coexistence in the country that we all are looking for to grow the country.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 21, 2013 14:28:55 GMT 3
A couple of years ago I saw many Kenyans hail the promulgation of the new constitution which they voted for overwhelmingly. As many know, just like poor Kethi,I did not register to vote and did not vote for or against the document. There were stories of how many rights were secured, how we set up independent commissions to ruin our lives etc. We even voted for a document that killed the PMs post and created an executive system. The police service was even made independent of the executive with its own service commission and its boss vetted by parliament with powers that said he does not get direction from anyone! All this we hailed. So now this 'independent' police service gets wind of a plot to destabilise a 'legitimate and democratically elected government' and fingers seem to point to some characters close to the defeated candidate in the past election as some of the organisers. The ODM brigade of Jukwaa now conveniently forget all the independent institutions they were hailing and can only see a meddling government hell bent on fixing Raila. Now we all know that Raila is not exactly the 'clean as pamba' character he claims to be and even has the dubious distinction of have been involved in a previously failed coup attempt....so one cannot surely put it past him to conceive another attempt. He is also a well known copy cat so trying to use an Arab Spring Uprising strategy is something that he is quite capable of conceiving. He of course cannot manage this alone and the possibility of using his lead aide is quite feasible. The only problem I see is that Raila is surrounded by some rather foolish advisers who keep fumbling and screwing up on anything they are tasked to do. The most recent incident on Kethi Kilonzo is sufficient example of such stupidity on the part of his advisers. From where I sit, this 4th March movement that is the cause of this brouhaha is as conceivable as the stolen election voters acknowledge slip used by kethi. The possibility that the Raila aide in question is involved seems even plausible especially when one is seeking an explanation of the recently stolen stash of several thousand dollars in Raila's office - forget about the fact that holding that amount of forex is not exactly allowed by law and any strong government should have arraigned Raila in court under money laundering laws. When the Mwakenya crackdown was in force, it was the reaction of a paranoid government that much preferred trumping up charges and through torture extract confessions that led to easy convictions. Today we have a government with a legitimate government in office with a majority in parliament so the need to go for a weak opponent does not seem to fly. We have an independent judiciary that can surely ensure that any crimes pegged on alleged political oppression would not pass through the courts. So why would anyone decide that they can lie that we are headed for oppression just because some crime is being investigated against a person so close to the former PM? If Owallo has nothing to hide, he should go and cooperate with the authorities and if it is a mistake, he demands an apology and life goes on. If the police have enough evidence to charge, Owallo will have his day in court and if found innocent he goes home free, but then if it turns out to be true, then he must face the full force of the law on treason alongside anyone anyone else involved. I find it unfortunate that this issue is being politicised by the ODM/CORD politicians as it could end up being a political competition when their counterpart in the Jubilee side decide to call their own conference making all sorts of allegations and this does little to enhance any peaceful coexistence in the country that we all are looking for to grow the country. , for those who are not political novices, you have a tough sell to make. You see we already have a pattern of the persecution of Raila Odinga by this government. Some too petty to bother to mention. And we know for a fact, that the political neutralisation of Raila Odinga is at the top of the Uhuruto national aims. So much so that they had offered him anything else of his choice if he signed an agreement to quit and mean it! He refused, and as Otishotish likes to remind us of the Rambo Johny Carson, choices have consequences. Non novices would too, look at the other historical undercurrents swirling behind the scenes, some unfinished Odinga Kenyatta business, some inherited insecurities? Then there are the politics of transition ---any era of political transition is volatile, but add these indicators which, when Kenya was rated against, returned a near failed state, the idea of a fluently operating institutions (be it an 'independent judiciary', or independent police force, or separation of powers between Legislature Judiciary and Sirikali) is a far fetch. Here are my treasonable thoughts from May 6 2012. jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6920/2nd-liberation-came-stillbornUnsure of their legitimacy, unsettled by the looming ICC, unable to make headway with the economy, fretting further Industrial activism, the two boys have to consult Magic Merlin! Mirror Mirror on the wall! ----who is sabotaging my presidency? Of course it is that man from the Lake who is always full of fishiness! O Merlin! work me some magic! O doctor! spin me a yarn to spin! Mr. President sir, all this fishiness come from the Lake! Drain it! Kamalet, I always maintained the 2nd liberation came still born! and it did not take the CORD petition for me to declare Mutunga's courts a sham. By then I believe I had, in your words, led countless crusades against the CJ. ---the good but funny man according to our Otishotish |
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Post by omundu on Jul 21, 2013 17:06:27 GMT 3
Police set to quiz more suspects as mystery over ‘March 4 Movement’ deepens Police will interview more people this week to establish the link between former Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s chief campaigner, Mr Eliud Owalo, and the little-known March 4 Movement. Sunday Nation has established that the Criminal Investigations Department (CID) has opened an inquiry file to establish the link between Mr Owalo and the alleged movement. CID has summoned Mr Owalo to appear at their offices for interrogation on Monday from 10 am. The case is being handled by Inspector Geoffrey Kinyua and Inspector David Cheruiyot of Serious Crime Unit at CID. According to a letter dated July 17 from head of Serious Crime Unit, Mr John Kariuki, Mr Owalo and others “plot to create civil unrest and plot nationwide demonstrations which will lead to discrediting government”. According to tipsters privy to investigations, the movement based in Nairobi’s Kilimani is fashioned towards Egypt’s “people power demonstrations” that deposed former President Hosni Mubarak from power two years ago. The movement was allegedly focused on tapping into discontentment of Kenyans who are unemployed and feeling the weight of high inflation and the high cost of living. Sections of trade unions and civil societies were expected to be roped in to mobilise Kenyans who would have pitched tent on the streets to achieve their means. Sunday Nation learnt that the CID accessed the information from individuals the movement was attempting to recruit. One of the tipsters claimed the movement was to be funded by foreign embassies. Also in the CID letter, it is alleged that they have information Mr Owalo was sponsoring the youths countrywide to cause chaos. Mr Owalo’s lawyer A.T. Oluoch, while replying to CID in a letter dated July 17, asked the police to name the complainant and the date he recorded a statement incriminating his client. He also sought to know whether his client was a witness or a suspect in the investigations. “Specify whether a report was made to the police in relation to the allegations against our clients, when and the occurrence book number and the person who made the report. Specify the allegations you are investigating in writing, which you never did,” said Oluoch. On Tuesday, Mr Owalo appeared at the CID offices and dismissed the claims as cheap propaganda being peddled by government. He said CID officers were upset after he penned an opinion article calling for dissolution of Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission. On Wednesday, Cord leaders led by Senator Anyang’ Nyong’o said that by interviewing Mr Owalo, the Government was targeting Cord leaders Mr Raila Odinga and Mr Kalonzo Musyoka. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mystery-over-March-4-Movement-deepens/-/1064/1921288/-/72rdl9z/-/index.htmlForward to the past but in dynamic digital mode. But is it the post-1969 or post-1982 past? But they are off to a good start, along known paths. So far the "the little-known March 4 Movement" is only little-known because someone in authority has just dreamt it up. It will soon become a "well-known terrorist group", with links to Al-This and Al-That. And one can never go wrong with "funded by foreign embassies". Bloody colonial bast*rds at it again. Hehehe. Otishotish. I just read an article by okiya omtatah (sp) stating that he is part of a 'march fourth movement'. He goes on to state that it is not an illegal movement and articulates the movement's goals which are progressive. An example is doing away with the IEBC and changing sections of our electoral laws to, amongst other goals, make elections less tribal and more issue based. He further is categorical that Owalo is in no way linked to the movement. It will be interesting to see if the CID will then leave owalo alone and start questioning omtatah. Hahahaha. That's when It will be affirmed that this is indeed a witch hunt. We have the judiciary. Mutunga the wily. Can't owalo and lawyer then request willy to put an end to this 'summons' that have been explained as illegal. No written summons, no evidence etc. It reeks of the summons a certain prolific blogger got from kimemia to attend a tongue lashing by the security council. I am at pains to provide the link (I am using a mobile device and my analogue brain is yet to come to grips with these machinations)but perhaps one of you may look the article up and post it here. Nevertheless, these 'clutching at straws' antics by the Government goes to show, as many have stated here, that they are losing the propaganda war. The MSM (main stream media) that they thought would redeem them by hiding their inadequacies is not enough. Times are a changing and other alternative sources of media are fully entrenched where wanjiku is accessing contrary news. Or the truth. IEBC is a big factor in this government because questioning the electoral body is akin to questioning the duo's legitimacy. It has become a wildfire hard to control and in a bit, even the western powers may not endorse our electoral system for the next elections. They have their ways, including funding. This is just the beginning. But, one may ask: doesn't all these keleles against progressives like the supposed march fourth movement just give the movement and kina owalo more legitimacy and/or airtime ? Any publicity is good publicity. It seems that the jubilee government is playing on a field that has been chosen for them by the opposition. The opposition is controlling the script and so far, like in any script, there is always the good guy and the bad guys. I can give various examples including the vip saga, office breakins and the 'returning back to nyaoism' story. It is becoming increasingly difficult for the jubilee fans to explain these activities away. One also cannot fail to see Kimemias hands in this. The errand bwoy. There is a certain quote in the nation article posted that shows the origin of the sleepless nights. "...tapping into the discontent of the unemployed youth that are feeling the weight of high inflation and high cost of living..." That line goes to show that the executive knows there is a rising discontent in the country. It also shows that they know the reasons behind the rising discontent. They know it is reasons to do with their policies on governance and not kina owalo and agwambo. But do they know that the only way to deal with it is only to deal with the issues head on ? It seems some never learn because what they are focussing on is denying the discontented youth, a formal platform to air their grievances. Well, that may just be a brief tourniquet, but it just briefly stops the blood from flowing. It does not heal the already visible chronic wound. |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 21, 2013 18:14:35 GMT 3
Omundu: Yes, it does appear that the owner of the coup organization has showed up. See the pdf files here: www.kenya-today.com/politics/march-4-movement-m4m-okiya-omtatah-eliud-owalo-cidAnd I think you are spot-on in your last comment: rising discontent will be harshly dealt with, under the pretext that it is part of a plot to overthrow the government. Kenya has been there before, so I'm sure people know the drill. |
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Post by mank on Jul 22, 2013 1:24:39 GMT 3
That was then Otishotish, I wonder how we can use yester-age tactics when we already opened doors of the infamous dark rooms of Nyayo and Nyati houses to the public. |
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Post by kamalet on Jul 22, 2013 8:38:34 GMT 3
Kamalet, for those who are not political novices, you have a tough sell to make. You see we already have a pattern of the persecution of Raila Odinga by this government. Some too petty to bother to mention. And we know for a fact, that the political neutralisation of Raila Odinga is at the top of the Uhuruto national aims. So much so that they had offered him anything else of his choice if he signed an agreement to quit and mean it! He refused, and as Otishotish likes to remind us of the Rambo Johny Carson, choices have consequences. Non novices would too, look at the other historical undercurrents swirling behind the scenes, some unfinished Odinga Kenyatta business, some inherited insecurities? Then there are the politics of transition ---any era of political transition is volatile, but add these indicators which, when Kenya was rated against, returned a near failed state, the idea of a fluently operating institutions (be it an 'independent judiciary', or independent police force, or separation of powers between Legislature Judiciary and Sirikali) is a far fetch. Here are my treasonable thoughts from May 6 2012. jukwaa.proboards.com/thread/6920/2nd-liberation-came-stillbornUnsure of their legitimacy, unsettled by the looming ICC, unable to make headway with the economy, fretting further Industrial activism, the two boys have to consult Magic Merlin! Mirror Mirror on the wall! ----who is sabotaging my presidency? Of course it is that man from the Lake who is always full of fishiness! O Merlin! work me some magic! O doctor! spin me a yarn to spin! Mr. President sir, all this fishiness come from the Lake! Drain it! Kamalet, I always maintained the 2nd liberation came still born! and it did not take the CORD petition for me to declare Mutunga's courts a sham. By then I believe I had, in your words, led countless crusades against the CJ. ---the good but funny man according to our Otishotish Jakaswanga I humbly beg to differ on this persecution theory! Leadership is a service and no one should ever feel himself owed for whatever he did for his country. Raila's problem is that he has this feeling of self entitlement that should only flow towards him and no one else! His followers seem too blind to see that they may feel indebted to him, but should the direction of the flow from them rather than the reverse as claimed by Raila? When we had the elections in March, some 6 million voters in their wisdom did not think or feel indebted to Raila and did not vote for him for president notwithstanding all claims of participation in second liberation. For all intents and purposes, that was the end of the man's liberation value to many of these Kenyans! You ask about the other 5 odd million who voted for him? I can only remind them that they had their say but could not have their way. So why would anyone think Raila is being persecuted? Just because he argues about mundane and vain stuff such as access to lounges? Why does he not complain that the government is being wasteful for not taking away his three car motorcade or not taking back his official limo which today carries private numbers? Why does he not complain that he still gets consular facilitation to the countries he is visiting? You listen too much to a bitter man and you must understand where he is coming from! In fact I think he is a much luckier man than another veteran of the second liberation (from what?) who now is nothing more than a vegetable whose loss of an election left him a broken man from one that campaigned and had his election stolen from him by Moi. I never heard him complain about lounge access - he served in cabinet - or that his security had been withdrawn! He never complained that when the banks went for his business he was being persecuted. So yes Raila will claim persecution because he is an insecure fellow when a normal robbery on his business premises takes place and his supporters will see the hand of the enemy when $100,000 hidden under a mattress is stolen from his premises...forget about the fact that the legality of holding such amounts has not even been questioned - I guess for fear or another claim at persecution! I think you need to look at that 'digital' you did on Luos and Luo-ism that had you fighting the dearly departed to DC and revamp it on how the next leader should be found and perhaps even create an urgency for it! |
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Post by podp on Jul 22, 2013 9:34:29 GMT 3
www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000089002&story_title=group-linked-to-plot-is-mine-says-omtatahGroup linked to ‘destabilisation plot’ is mine, says Okiya Omtatah Updated Monday, July 22nd 2013 at 00:16 GMT +3 By Geoffrey Mosoku and Cyrus Ombati Nairobi, Kenya: A fresh twist is emerging over summons issued to former Prime Minister Raila Odingaâs aide Eliud Owalo to, again, appear before the police over allegations of a plot to destabilise the Government. Owalo will this morning appear before CID as civil rights activist Okiya Omtatah wrote to the police demanding to know why they are linking his initiative the March Four Movement (M4M) to the alleged subversive activities. Police had claimed Owalo is behind M4M and has been recruiting youth at his Hurlingham office with a view of causing mass disobedience. And it emerged police have summoned a number of youths allied to CORD for similar grilling. They are likely to face the detectives this week. The case is being handled by Inspector Geoffrey Kinyua and Inspector David Cheruiyot of Serious Crime Unit at CID. Omtatah wrote to head of Serious Crime Unit John Kariuki saying the movement was his brainchild and wondered why the officers are linking it to Owalo and the other group. He said M4M is an original idea and initiative of Kenyans for Justice and Development (KEJUDE) Trust. âM4M is a progressive and an above the board campaign aimed at amending Article 138 of the Constitution to move the country from the so-called âtyranny of numbersâ to âsafety of numbersâ,â said Omtatah. He added M4M has no concerns about or relations to any current political formations and their main and only concern is designing an electoral system that will eventually get Kenyans to vote on policy platforms and not tribal affiliations. He said they have absolutely no plans to disrupt anything or to hold Egypt-style protests and they have received no funding from any quarters although they intend to solicit for funding from any lawful entities.
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the terrorist suspect Owallo until he confesses, and wholly incriminates his boss!
! at one point them Mpigs even make an unscheduled U-turn and scurry back a few paces, before retracing their motions, twisting in all directions!