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Post by tiskie on Oct 7, 2008 18:41:17 GMT 3
Mank, This is what you mean, right? With the 'no comment' line adopted by all on the Kenyan side, it can only mean someone very powerful organised / ordered the Jerome Corsi drama. Lets wait and see. How Kenyan Immigration Officials Can Help John McCain
Jerome Corsi's brush with the Kenyan authorities is a gift to the Republican campaign and those who disseminate its talking points. It's not that Corsi—the intellectual father of the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry's war record in 2004 and author of Obama Nation, a best-selling account of the cult surrounding the Democratic candidate—is some kind of right-wing martyr. He'll no doubt be released by the Nairobi immigration officials who "snatched" him this morning. But his arbitrary detention—in the birthplace of Barack Obama's father—feeds into the reptilian-brain paranoia that the mild-mannered Democratic candidate will pack the government with his friends and bring incompetent or tyrannical black rule to the US. That's why the story is the splash on Matt Drudge's website right now and a deformed version of it will now metastasize through the internet and show up in the minds of those Florida retirees who—the pleas of Sarah Silverman and their New York grandchildren notwithstanding—still believe anything they read in email. gawker.com/5059975/how-kenyan-immigration-officials-can-help-john-mccainPhi I disagree that is old news Jerome Corsi's tried very hard to tarnish Obama's name with his book in the USA and it didn't wash he was shown the door and all news media termed him as a left wing crazed fool he did it to John Kerry 2004 Democrat presidential candidate and cost him the presidential elections in 2004.. America's know this guy very well and I doubt whether they will be taken on for a ride with his malice second time round. (and that is why he was trying to use the Kenya platform to get some news media interested- I didn't see any mention in the US news about him being in Kenya to Launch the book they froze him out!)If his books are his malice was that believable then Obama would not have won against Hilary Clinton! My issue is with the group that invited him to Kenya for their own interest- how low can some people in Kenya stoop- do they really believe that they can stop Obama Campaign or tarnish his name just because he is connected to Raila??? to me this are desperate individuals who are out to destroy Kenyans for their own gain... I wonder who or what made them think that they can use Jerome Corsi's to destroy Obama - I believe they were ill advised and as someone said on ground in kenya- to my understanding Kenyans were ready to crush in and show Jerome Corsi's that they were not to be used for his filthy campaign smear on Obama - in fact I believe by the immigrations deporting him they saved him from the wrath of Kenyans. as for hitting the USA news and help McCain Campaign!! no wash - old news from Jerome Corsi's will not make a dent in Obama's presidential campaign.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 7, 2008 18:41:49 GMT 3
Mank, This is what you mean, right? With the 'no comment' line adopted by all on the Kenyan side, it can only mean someone very powerful organised / ordered the Jerome Corsi drama. Lets wait and see. How Kenyan Immigration Officials Can Help John McCain
Jerome Corsi's brush with the Kenyan authorities is a gift to the Republican campaign and those who disseminate its talking points. It's not that Corsi—the intellectual father of the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry's war record in 2004 and author of Obama Nation, a best-selling account of the cult surrounding the Democratic candidate—is some kind of right-wing martyr. He'll no doubt be released by the Nairobi immigration officials who "snatched" him this morning. But his arbitrary detention—in the birthplace of Barack Obama's father—feeds into the reptilian-brain paranoia that the mild-mannered Democratic candidate will pack the government with his friends and bring incompetent or tyrannical black rule to the US. That's why the story is the splash on Matt Drudge's website right now and a deformed version of it will now metastasize through the internet and show up in the minds of those Florida retirees who—the pleas of Sarah Silverman and their New York grandchildren notwithstanding—still believe anything they read in email. gawker.com/5059975/how-kenyan-immigration-officials-can-help-john-mccainThe US manistream media is taking the truthful tact here reporting the story as it is. This guy's book did not have the impact he thought it would. With the economy teetering like it is, this is a non starter story with NO legs. Corsi expulsion will cause gnashing of teeth in the right wing blogosphere, radio wing nuts and false news channel. If Dick Morris was expelled so can this thug corsi
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Post by job on Oct 7, 2008 18:44:04 GMT 3
That's what's referred to as 'flawless flushing-out of a Mamluki hitman'
I love it when Mamlukis get deported.
Corsi and his host, Peter Mbae Njogu with his money-mining Evangelical newsletter group, will learn that Kenya is cautious enough to appreciate the very possibility that Obama could well be the next U.S President.
This is simply called diplomatic foresight and reality checking.
A few money hungry and pretend evengelist-conmen don't care what implications their actions could have on the nation called Kenya. Its all about them and mbesha. Greed for money, tinged with jealousy, period!
Imagine if that propaganda launch succesfully happened,.....yet Obama won the presidency (70% chance likely)...... Kenya would then deeply reflect back on having hosted Obama's failed swift-boating, hate & smear campaigns.
Now let us now train our eyes on Peter Mbae Njogu and his evangelical newsletter.
Simple case of the well known Newtonian principle - For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
Who is this Peter Mbae Njogu?
Is he connected to Kiambu's Pastor Muthee (MSNBC's Keith Olbermann calls him pastor Muthi)?
Who really are these so called Kijabe missionaries? Are they not some indigenous Kenyans linked to a local politician?
What is evangelical about tearing down a brother using the weapons of hatred and betrayal?
Does this Kijabe brand of evangelism preach hatred, jealousness and tearing down of kin?
We shall soon know who are hiding behind pulpits and the cloak to mine money and sow unnecessary tribal hatred. While everyone is entitled to their own choices, this was totally uncalled for 'Pastors'! Kenyans can do better than this.
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Post by tiskie on Oct 7, 2008 18:48:56 GMT 3
Einstein For months I (amongst a few here) have sounded the alarm that a certain advance group (connected to Corsi) had been meeting at Windsor Hotel with an ethnic faction of the GCG with huge money briefcases in exchange for exclusive and confidential access to ALL records with an "OBAMA " name on them. This faction has been operating clandestinely as a hidden network of people who speak a "common ethnic language" and who have "connections" all over major depts in Kenya today. Its not rocket science to figure out why. Come on now!!!! This group of kenyan and foreign individuals was ill advised - trying to go after Obama with smear campaign in kenya- yes and the nights were long and the wine & whiskey flowed sources confirm as they planned to bring down obama using yours truly Jerome Corsi's- I guess they are now wondering what next and what other weapon they can use to bring down Obama- This group of individuals we all know who can't accept to see Obama in the white house- I think they have diarrhea every day when they visualize Obama in Oval office:) ;D
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 7, 2008 18:52:41 GMT 3
Folks
This is such an idiotic act by the Kenyan government. It feeds right into Obama the terrorist narrative that the McCain's have been reduced their campaigns to. If the man did not have the right papers, why did they allow him into the country. Jerome Corsi is a nut case and a quack intellectual with zero influence in the presidential election despite his massive efforts. Now he and his supporters have something to jump. They will simply say the radical Muslim supporters of Obama in the government of Kenya violated his rights and that they will do the same to every American who disagrees with them once Obama becomes the president.
I would personally want to whip Corsi's behind for being such a vicious thug. Even lying requires a little intelligence otherwise it backfires. Corsi should ask his Kenyan friends about that. But he has the right to be stupid. That is his problem. He should not be harassed. If he is violating his tourist visa, then just kick him out of the country and get it over with.
Overall his is not a big deal but it is a dangerous foolish act. It could have been worse if Corsi was attacked by Kenyan mobs and beaten silly. That would have really killed Obama. The Kenyan government should immediately hand over this fool to the US Embassy and tell them he risks public anger with his false and vicious attacks on Obama. I mean this idiot intended to go to the slums looking for Obama's relative to give him $ 1,000.00 That could have been suicide unless they intended to get the guy and bring him to the hotels to hold press conferences.
The Kenya government should resolve this matter pronto. Americans love their freedom even when it interferes with the freedom of others. Yesterday at a rally in Florida when Ms Palin was speaking and basically calling Obama a terrorist there were people in the crowd yelling "KILL HIM. KILL HIM". That is hideous but you cannot go and arrest the person(s) saying those things unless they are actually trying to kill anybody. It is their right to spew hatred and even to make hate speeches like McIdiot and Palin are doing. At a McCain rally yesterday in New Mexico when McCain asked who is Barack Obama someone yelled; " A TERRORIST". McCain said nothing. These fools are shooting themselves in their feet. Arresting Corsi will not help Obama, it will help John McCain.
When the dust settles we will find out about the tribalist haters who conspired with Corsi to undermine Obama and expose them for what they are. For them all they see is a successful Luo, never mind that Obama is 100% American. We know the hate filled morons.. Let's not play in their league. It is a notch below.
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Post by tiskie on Oct 7, 2008 19:14:54 GMT 3
That's what's referred to as 'flawless flushing-out of a Mamluki hitman' I love it when Mamlukis get deported. Corsi and his host, Peter Mbae Njogu with his money-mining Evangelical newsletter group, will learn that Kenya is cautious enough to appreciate the very possibility that Obama could well be the next U.S President. This is simply called diplomatic foresight and reality checking. A few money hungry and pretend evengelist-conmen don't care what implications their actions could have on the nation called Kenya. Its all about them and mbesha. Greed for money, tinged with jealousy, period! Imagine if that propaganda launch succesfully happened,.....yet Obama won the presidency (70% chance likely)...... Kenya would then deeply reflect back on having hosted Obama's failed swift-boating, hate & smear campaigns. Now let us now train our eyes on Peter Mbae Njogu and his evangelical newsletter. Simple case of the well known Newtonian principle - For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Who is this Peter Mbae Njogu? Is he connected to Kiambu's Pastor Muthee (MSNBC's Keith Olbermann calls him pastor Muthi)? Who really are these so called Kijabe missionaries? Are they not some indigenous Kenyans linked to a local politician? What is evangelical about tearing down a brother using the weapons of hatred and betrayal? Does this Kijabe brand of evangelism preach hatred, jealousness and tearing down of kin? We shall soon know who are hiding behind pulpits and the cloak to mine money and sow unnecessary tribal hatred. While everyone is entitled to their own choices, this was totally uncalled for 'Pastors'! Kenyans can do better than this. Job invisible hands are everywhere to destroy Obama road to Oval office- check this out- Dan Flory republican member(big contributions to McCain campaign just happens to be working with Pastor Muthee and Mbae Njogu currently involved with Restoration Alliance in providing potable water to Kenya(nice cover for the McCain invisible hands in Kenya right?? and don't forget our politician brothers in Kiambu who organized the whole deal to go down!!! Read: the link is here: On May 15, Restoration Alliance founder Dan Flory ( Strong Republican supporter)stepped off a plane in Nairobi, Kenya, and into a world of vast humanitarian potential. ” www.restorationalliance.org/ra_Home.html
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Post by mank on Oct 7, 2008 19:15:38 GMT 3
Mank, This is what you mean, right? With the 'no comment' line adopted by all on the Kenyan side, it can only mean someone very powerful organised / ordered the Jerome Corsi drama. Lets wait and see. I think we are together, but I am not confident I interpret your post acurately. Let me try to clarify the part I think you may not gotten my message perfectly: I do not mean that someone actually organized the drama, but that the propagandists will fake it that the man was held up for obstruction of his message. It seems most people here are only arguing about the facts [as to whether it can look factual what the propagandist may claim], not reading the mind of the propagandist. I do not claim to know anything about this drama myself, but I can predict what the propagandist will do from here. Again, of course if the bugger contravened his visa status, then the world cannot be decieved that Kenya had any other reason to hold him up. I differ with Einstein where he feels that we should be be proud if Obama gets significant negative publicity from our handling of the man ... every decision needs weighing gains versus losses. Depending on details about the detention, it is possible we played into the hands of potato head. That cannot not something to be proud of, esp. when we consider that their could have been other options, e.g. that of letting the guy face of with the real Kenyan at the doors of the hotel. The hotel clearly understands what that would mean, and that is why it is out to distance itself with the mission. The rest of your post reflects my thinking well.How Kenyan Immigration Officials Can Help John McCain
Jerome Corsi's brush with the Kenyan authorities is a gift to the Republican campaign and those who disseminate its talking points. It's not that Corsi—the intellectual father of the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry's war record in 2004 and author of Obama Nation, a best-selling account of the cult surrounding the Democratic candidate—is some kind of right-wing martyr. He'll no doubt be released by the Nairobi immigration officials who "snatched" him this morning. But his arbitrary detention—in the birthplace of Barack Obama's father—feeds into the reptilian-brain paranoia that the mild-mannered Democratic candidate will pack the government with his friends and bring incompetent or tyrannical black rule to the US. That's why the story is the splash on Matt Drudge's website right now and a deformed version of it will now metastasize through the internet and show up in the minds of those Florida retirees who—the pleas of Sarah Silverman and their New York grandchildren notwithstanding—still believe anything they read in email. gawker.com/5059975/how-kenyan-immigration-officials-can-help-john-mccain I am concerned with the tribal allegations being made here, but if there is truth to them we all need to see it.
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Post by job on Oct 7, 2008 19:18:18 GMT 3
Adongo,
The economy is the topic in the US and very few will even notice, leave alone paying attention to Corsi's deportation - except the few right wing nutheads. Whether leftist MSNBC or right wing FOX covers it, it will not even stick beyond the clip.
Seriously, both on a diplomatic and security standpoint, the Kenya government did the right thing.
It is an act of provocation for Corsi to go launching his Obama hate campaign in Kenya. Its like allowing Salman Rushdie to launch his Satanic Verses in a Muslim country. Plain provocation that's potentially dangerous if allowed.
Kenya has its interests (diplomatic, economic and security) which stand above any personal freedoms of an American provocateur. In the interest of security and in avoidance of potential ugly occurences, such playing-with-fire stunts can't be allowed in the name of granting rights to visitors.
A simple embarrasing act (say street mob justice on Corsi by uneducated hooligans) can bring down our tourism numbers drastically besides now harming Obama's campaign. The government must anticipate such dangers and protect the bigger national interest.
Kenya cannot allow such publicity stunts, especially given that Obama might well win the U.S. Presidency.
Then again, which is worse? If Corsi was allowed to have his way, launch his book and go to Huruma with cameras searching for George Obama - then a mob attacked them and God forbid something terrible happened,......who would have been the automatic target for blame for "mobilizing blood-thirsty 'Islamic' killers"?
I guess the same people (Obama and Raila) they are trying to provoke.
Kenya must be applauded for at least doing something right.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 7, 2008 19:27:22 GMT 3
Job Exactly my sentiments and I differ with AO, that this expulsion matters in the big scheme of things. Even when corsi published his abominable book it was a 48hr news cycle at best.
This is not even a 1 hr news cycle story, who the heck cares about what happened in Kenya? They have tried to mine this angle for a walking story in vain!
It was the correct thing to do, to expel this nutcase, as the fallout for his continued prescence was going to be terrible. The story would have been much bigger. drip Corsi this, drip corsi that, drip R this and R that, Muslim this and that, ad nauseum.
Now that he is out, the story has been nipped in the bud, let him come to false news channel and decry his treatment. He will be preaching to the choir, the nutwing base.
Who cares! This is done with. Kwisha maneno
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Post by job on Oct 7, 2008 19:29:24 GMT 3
mank,
I suspect an overwhelming number of Kenyans from ALL communities are routing for Obama. That's what's important. Some isolated exceptions exist.
Few may be motivated to actively campaign against Obama for cash (evangelists for cash), others for plain jealousy, others for tribal hatred. But it is only in a minority of cases - worry not.
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 19:46:19 GMT 3
I am elated that the illuminati has been shown the door!! We don't entertain NO foreign thugs on our soil. He can take his crap elsewhere! PM, what is this craze about MKM? Can't we have some peace now?? Don't we already have enough problems?? I would prefer we rather talked about particular Kenyans than this amorphous grouping called MKM!!! Who is MKM??? MKM A specific group of individuals hell bent on destroying ny semblance of meritrocacy, and instead interested in tribal jingoism, and obstructive behaviour as far as accountability is concerned. They are the folks who stole the election and they have looted the coffers of the GOvt and can now purchase water carriers like my homie Wetangula the snake or that empty suit Judas KM NO I cant let go. History revists those who forget it PM, These people have NAMES!! Please call them out using their NAMES!! Mt. Kenya Mafia (aka MKM) term is too amorphous to drive the point home!! You are in the process including people who have NOTHING to do with the treachery and some of the innocent people are my FRIENDS! Understand me please, I CANNOT let you continue using this term!! That is all I'm trying to say!!!!!!!!
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Post by mimimzalendo on Oct 7, 2008 19:48:53 GMT 3
MKM mafia. We will call it as it is. How many of those "nothing to do with treachery" people spoke up on Jan-1st after the electoral grand theft. its a fact to some people MBECA is too much to leave on the table even if your human dignity and decency is cracked. sorry!! MKM it is and will be. Period!!!
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 7, 2008 19:50:50 GMT 3
Job
I get your point. Jerome Corsi does not deserve any special attention or treatment. Nobody pays attention to him in the US. Two things I don't like. One is the detention element. The word detention conjures all sorts of images. It brings the image of the man's rights being violated. I know in the US they detain immigrants for years and nobody says a word. But this is a different can of worms. If he is breaching his visa throw him out of the country mara moja and get it over with. Get him into the next flight and tell him to take his shit elsewhere. End of story. Let him come back and start crying for attention. Nobody will pay him a mind except the lunatic right wing fringe elements.
The second thing spooking me is that if he is detained for his own safety then that is even more troublesome. If he is in the country legally and he is carrying out his business legally and the only problem is that the mobs in Huruma where he intends to go to ply his nonsense could harm him, then the government has a responsibility to provide him with security. Otherwise if that is not workable then the government has to hand him over to his Embassy and tell them they cannot provide security for him. Unfortunately we do not have anti-hate speech laws in the country.
In Canada for example people can be barred from entering the country or deported if they engage in hate propaganda. Sometimes they have abused that law to unfairly bar rap artists from coming into the country. But the law is in the books and Nazi sympathizers and overt racists and hate mongers have been barred or kicked out of the country. Of course there is nothing we can do with citizen racists and hate mongers and they are plenty.
On the whole I agree with you that the economic tsunami sweeping through the US will determine the elections and not petty sideshows from the likes of Jerome Corsi.
adongo
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 19:53:32 GMT 3
focus on kenya? is kenya the problem? or the factional ethnic ruling elites from all over kenya??? no wonder we have directionless and in-effective civil society looking for answers at the wrong places. MM, Please adopt a bird's eye view when analysing problems!! Parochialism NEVER solved problems!!!
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Post by mimimzalendo on Oct 7, 2008 20:02:28 GMT 3
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 20:29:48 GMT 3
FolksNow he and his supporters have something to jump. They will simply say the radical Muslim supporters of Obama in the government of Kenya violated his rights and that they will do the same to every American who disagrees with them once Obama becomes the president. .............. The Kenya government should resolve this matter pronto. Americans love their freedom even when it interferes with the freedom of others. Yesterday at a rally in Florida when Ms Palin was speaking and basically calling Obama a terrorist there were people in the crowd yelling "KILL HIM. KILL HIM". That is hideous but you cannot go and arrest the person(s) saying those things unless they are actually trying to kill anybody. It is their right to spew hatred and even to make hate speeches like McIdiot and Palin are doing. At a McCain rally yesterday in New Mexico when McCain asked who is Barack Obama someone yelled; " A TERRORIST". McCain said nothing. These fools are shooting themselves in their feet. Arresting Corsi will not help Obama, it will help John McCain. ............. adongo Adongo, I beg to disagree!! No Kenyan Muslims were/are involved in the thug's deportation! If the McCain's campaign claims that, we or the Obama campaign must call him out on that!! What is wrong in being a Muslim? Today I'm Christian, tomorrow I can decide to be a Muslim. It is called freedom of religion and Americans as 'leaders' in matters democracy MUST accept that!!! Secondly, if Americans can be allowed to shout KILL HIM, KILL HIM and get away with it, they should realise that their form of democracy is NOT the world's standard democracy. Kenyans did NOT like the Corsi thug and they kicked him out! America must accept that!! HOW MANY KENYANS HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF AMERICA WITHOUT KENYA HAVING ANY RECOURSE TO ACTION?? Like I said above, if this is the action that will cost Obama his presidential bid, then SO BE IT!!! Kenya is not some failed state to play dirty politics!!
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 20:38:02 GMT 3
Adongo, The economy is the topic in the US and very few will even notice, leave alone paying attention to Corsi's deportation - except the few right wing nutheads. Whether leftist MSNBC or right wing FOX covers it, it will not even stick beyond the clip. Seriously, both on a diplomatic and security standpoint, the Kenya government did the right thing. It is an act of provocation for Corsi to go launching his Obama hate campaign in Kenya. Its like allowing Salman Rushdie to launch his Satanic Verses in a Muslim country. Plain provocation that's potentially dangerous if allowed. Kenya has its interests (diplomatic, economic and security) which stand above any personal freedoms of an American provocateur. In the interest of security and in avoidance of potential ugly occurences, such playing-with-fire stunts can't be allowed in the name of granting rights to visitors. A simple embarrasing act (say street mob justice on Corsi by uneducated hooligans) can bring down our tourism numbers drastically besides now harming Obama's campaign. The government must anticipate such dangers and protect the bigger national interest. Kenya cannot allow such publicity stunts, especially given that Obama might well win the U.S. Presidency. Then again, which is worse? If Corsi was allowed to have his way, launch his book and go to Huruma with cameras searching for George Obama - then a mob attacked them and God forbid something terrible happened,......who would have been the automatic target for blame for "mobilizing blood-thirsty 'Islamic' killers"? I guess the same people (Obama and Raila) they are trying to provoke. Kenya must be applauded for at least doing something right. Thanks Job!!
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 7, 2008 20:48:39 GMT 3
FolksNow he and his supporters have something to jump. They will simply say the radical Muslim supporters of Obama in the government of Kenya violated his rights and that they will do the same to every American who disagrees with them once Obama becomes the president. .............. The Kenya government should resolve this matter pronto. Americans love their freedom even when it interferes with the freedom of others. Yesterday at a rally in Florida when Ms Palin was speaking and basically calling Obama a terrorist there were people in the crowd yelling "KILL HIM. KILL HIM". That is hideous but you cannot go and arrest the person(s) saying those things unless they are actually trying to kill anybody. It is their right to spew hatred and even to make hate speeches like McIdiot and Palin are doing. At a McCain rally yesterday in New Mexico when McCain asked who is Barack Obama someone yelled; " A TERRORIST". McCain said nothing. These fools are shooting themselves in their feet. Arresting Corsi will not help Obama, it will help John McCain. ............. adongo Adongo, I beg to disagree!! No Kenyan Muslims were/are involved in the thug's deportation! If the McCain's campaign claims that, we or the Obama campaign must call him out on that!! What is wrong in being a Muslim? Today I'm Christian, tomorrow I can decide to be a Muslim. It is called freedom of religion and Americans as 'leaders' in matters democracy MUST accept that!!! Secondly, if Americans can be allowed to shout KILL HIM, KILL HIM and get away with it, they should realise that their form of democracy is NOT the world's standard democracy. Kenyans did NOT like the Corsi thug and they kicked him out! America must accept that!! HOW MANY KENYANS HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF AMERICA WITHOUT KENYA HAVING ANY RECOURSE TO ACTION?? Like I said above, if this is the action that will cost Obama his presidential bid, then SO BE IT!!! Kenya is not some failed state to play dirty politics!! einsteinAccording to the nut case Jerome Corsi the present Kenya government is a coalition of Radical Muslims led by Raila Odinga ( a fanatic Muslim in his books) and the good christians led by Mwai Kibaki. Corsi claims in his book that Raila wanted to declare Sharia Law in Kenya after gaining the presidency. Sounds familiar? You bet. That is the same line of propaganda by the PNU hate mongers and tribalists who faked MoU's about Raila and Kenya Muslims. We know them by name, but that is another story. So according to this idiot Corsi Raila's "radical Muslim" group are now part of the government. So since he is being deported by the government, Corsi is going to claim his deportation was engineered by those "radical Muslims" on orders from Obama, who Corsi claims was the mastermind of Raila's "radical Muslim" group. It is far fetched and stupid but Corsi is entitled to his stupidity. Being and idiot is not a crime otherwise the world would not have enough jails to lock folks up. That said I have no tears for Corsi and from the story below it looks like they are getting his a.ss out of there. He is already at the airport and the government has clearly stated he has no work permit to allow him do the kind of stuff he was doing. Get him out of there. www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/jerome-corsi-obama-smear_n_132522.htmladongo
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 20:49:15 GMT 3
MM, The HIGHWAY is free for you!! Keep on with your hate speeches! But be assured that I SHALL counter ALL of them!!! It will be you against me!!! This is the least I owe to my 'MKM' friends!!!!!!
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Post by mimimzalendo on Oct 7, 2008 21:01:52 GMT 3
Einstein
I need no permission to air my views (just like you dont from me). OK!!!!!
Contest them??? Kwani wewe ni nani??? I REPEAT!!!! WEWE NI NANI???
you have the same RIGHTS and PRIVILEGES like I do here. UMESIKIA.
And I repeat, Peter Mbae Njogu is another MKM mafia laden sponsored political-hitman.
UTA DO??? MKM is one of the BIGGEST reasons why Kenya went to the dogs. PEriod!!!!!!!
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 21:03:17 GMT 3
Adongo, I beg to disagree!! No Kenyan Muslims were/are involved in the thug's deportation! If the McCain's campaign claims that, we or the Obama campaign must call him out on that!! What is wrong in being a Muslim? Today I'm Christian, tomorrow I can decide to be a Muslim. It is called freedom of religion and Americans as 'leaders' in matters democracy MUST accept that!!! Secondly, if Americans can be allowed to shout KILL HIM, KILL HIM and get away with it, they should realise that their form of democracy is NOT the world's standard democracy. Kenyans did NOT like the Corsi thug and they kicked him out! America must accept that!! HOW MANY KENYANS HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF AMERICA WITHOUT KENYA HAVING ANY RECOURSE TO ACTION?? Like I said above, if this is the action that will cost Obama his presidential bid, then SO BE IT!!! Kenya is not some failed state to play dirty politics!! einstein It is far fetched and stupid but Corsi is entitled to his stupidity. Being and idiot is not a crime otherwise the world would not have enough jails to lock folks up. www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/jerome-corsi-obama-smear_n_132522.htmladongo Adongo, Thanks for that; it cheered me up!
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Post by mimimzalendo on Oct 7, 2008 21:08:52 GMT 3
Adongo, Job, etc
Im a bit surprised that when some of us pointed these moves at play since March-08, most of the folks here thought it was child's play. What If i told you that by then I knew about the Pastor Muthi angle and the Evangelicals in play? What if I told you that after Accord, some strange characters hosted by UHURU KENYATTA were at Windsor Hotel for de-briefs on intelligence regarding the OBAMA family profiles in Kenya?
How come in July we heard that Obama's Granny in Kogelo house was broken into but nothign of material value was stolen? Would it be a stretch to tell you that it was the work of paid hitmen out to gather ANY family confidential information for later use?
My friends, connecting the dots when you step back and see the MOTIVEs and EVENTs is easy.
CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF MKM-Mafia have accepted financial handouts in exchange for selling out your kinsman.
One interesting question: how come PNU and Kalonzo's party (though invited) did not attend the Demcoratic Party Convention? how come a silent party of operatives were at the GOP convention (and this story is not out yet). What info did they carry with them? why was there initial desire to remove Immigration from Kajwang?
There is more than meets the eyes. Who led foreign groups to George Obama (who was previously unkonwn)? how would international reporters have found such a guy in the slums.
CERTAIN MKM forces in the intelligence and party factions are out to derail your Comrade.
There is no doubt about it.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Oct 7, 2008 21:16:17 GMT 3
MM These are just our garden variety greedy thieves milking the whiteman of his money while attempting to disparage R, yaani hit two birds with one stone.
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Post by einstein on Oct 7, 2008 22:04:36 GMT 3
Einstein I need no permission to air my views (just like you dont from me). OK!!!!! Contest them??? Kwani wewe ni nani??? I REPEAT!!!! WEWE NI NANI??? you have the same RIGHTS and PRIVILEGES like I do here. UMESIKIA. And I repeat, Peter Mbae Njogu is another MKM mafia laden sponsored political-hitman. UTA DO??? MKM is one of the BIGGEST reasons why Kenya went to the dogs. PEriod!!!!!!! MM, I asked you to provide the links to your predictions about this case as supposedly reported by you right here on Jukwaa and you have failed. And yes, WE BOTH HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS ON JUKWAA. MY RIGHT IS THAT YOU CAN ABUSE MY FRIENDS ONLY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. AFTER THAT I STRIKE!! AND THAT IS WHAT I'M DOING NOW!!!! Since you asked for it, do you know who I think you are? Now read carefully, this is what I have been longing to tell you since ages!! You are a bitter, self-imprisoned, everybody-hating, good for nothing, hate spewing, malicious, unreasonable, hot-tempered, egocentric, boisterous, pompous, nincompoop, perpetual whiner, scandalous, esoteric, lesotho-preaching, arguments-shy and worst tribal bigot on Jukwaa!!!! How do you like that? This is for my MKM friends and I'm ready to quit Jukwaa for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mimimzalendo on Oct 7, 2008 22:08:03 GMT 3
Kwani wewe ni nani, whose requests have to be answered? are you the owner of Jukwaaa?
If your friends are part of the MKM-mafia, pole sana, you are on the list then.
Hehehehehehehehehehehe ... keep them coming.
Kwani you think we care. We went, we saw and we never again will BS with MKM nonsense.
Quit !!! nobody is begging you or forcing you. You are not the "holy grail" of jukwaaa.
tha self-importance nonsense, take it to Kenya Imagine where your usual Githurai folks are.
And we have no regrets. We say it loud and clear. Kenyas problems is MKM. Period!! MTA DO!!
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