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Post by kamalet on Oct 25, 2011 17:56:43 GMT 3
@ Tactician Was meant to be tongue in cheek on how it's difficult to fight corruption, looks like it backfired?? Actually my view is that we can never fight corruption as long as we are politicising the fight. For instance, my calling for the resignation of the PM for this saga was nothing more than ignite political passion amongst his supporters and haters and the offence and defence has been as predictable as the sun rised from the east! When Raila calls for political responsibility which is what his haters are singing, he never means it in terms of fighting corruption - for him it is nothing more than hoping for political attrition of his opponents. That explains why he would not be screaming for Ngilu to go home but had no problems calling for Ongeri's head. So yes, we are not winning this fight in the near future as long as the monkeys that lord it over us continue politicising the vice and supporters sing along.
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 25, 2011 19:02:54 GMT 3
@ Tactician Was meant to be tongue in cheek on how it's difficult to fight corruption, looks like it backfired?? Actually my view is that we can never fight corruption as long as we are politicising the fight. For instance, my calling for the resignation of the PM for this saga was nothing more than ignite political passion amongst his supporters and haters and the offence and defence has been as predictable as the sun rised from the east! When Raila calls for political responsibility which is what his haters are singing, he never means it in terms of fighting corruption - for him it is nothing more than hoping for political attrition of his opponents. That explains why he would not be screaming for Ngilu to go home but had no problems calling for Ongeri's head. So yes, we are not winning this fight in the near future as long as the monkeys that lord it over us continue politicising the vice and supporters sing along. Kamalet, Forgive me. I wont know whether it was Shakespeare who wrote the verse or his later day sister who sang the the words which could be paraphrased thus: There is something rotten at the heart of the PM's office, and it is not fish. It is a bit of maize, a bit of Miguna, a bit of funds not used for what they were meant for. And it has taken foreigners to point out the accounting irregularities! Further: The unofficial husband of the infamous Othaya activist, stung by criticism by Abdelnassir, that he is an inverse Robin Hood, robbing the poor to fatten the rich, and that for all his reputation as a brilliant economist the waning shilling would suggest otherwise, has come out all guns blazing to remind the offender of his patriotic duties. The nation is at war, and all must stand at attention behind their great leader, none must wash family dirty linnen in public. This should mean that as someone from the Lake region, I should be oblivious to the pungent stench from the PM's office, pretend it is all fried fish and chips, and proceed to invite the rest of the nation to marvel at our candidate! I am working on it Kamale, to become the personification of hypocrisy and delude myself theft has other names. I could just pull it off with a straight face! Fishy man that I am! When it comes to theft of public funds, Kalonzo Musyoka seems to match his Mr. Clean image. I wonder: if someone were to operate the guillotine on thieves with the same gusto Oloo does on Jukwaa errants, would it by chance be KM who remains to escort the widows home? Someone give me a financial scandal on Kalonzo quick!
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Post by gemagema on Oct 25, 2011 19:23:32 GMT 3
And G7 will employ all tactics and strategies to get Raila out of office. G7 PLAN RAILA CENSURE MOTION MPs allied to the G7 alliance are planning to introduce a motion in Parliament to censure Prime Minister Raila Odinga over the Kazi kwa Vijana scandal and demand his removal from office. The notice of motion is expected to be presented tomorrow by Ikolomani MP Bonny Khalwale. According to standing orders, MPs can only start debating the motion after seven days, which means the earliest it can be discussed is November 2. The G7 alliance is led by Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta, Eldoret North MP William Ruto, Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka and Saboti MP Eugene Wamalwa. It is intended to create a voting block big enough to defeat Raila and the ODM in the 2012 elections. The G7 MPs spent most of yesterday working on the wording of the proposed censure motion. The MPs want Raila to leave office as they claim that officials in his office had unexplained sources of wealth. "We have solid evidence to show how some people have been acquiring property worth millions of shillings yet their they cannot afford the same on their salaries," said one MP. Over the weekend the Sunday Nation revealed that the World Bank had cancelled the Sh4.3 billion loan to support the Kazi kwa Vijana project and demanded a refund of the Sh945 million disbursed so far. The money allegedly had gone to seminars, individuals, and extra salaries. The KKV was supposed to provide employment for 190,000 youth. On Sunday Ruto and Wamalwa demanded that Raila takes political responsibility and steps aside to allow investigations into the scandal..... continue reading here below at The Star www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/46042-g7-plan-raila-censure-motion
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Post by tactician on Oct 25, 2011 19:32:06 GMT 3
@ Tactician Was meant to be tongue in cheek on how it's difficult to fight corruption, looks like it backfired?? i wasn't too sure whether it was sarcasm or you were for real but as kamalet points out, its never about corruption. Indeed the very loud mouths regarding corruption by the PNU side (job, adongo, phil, politicalmaniac etc) are conspicuous by their absence. We all know why. Which is precisely why elections in kenya are about tribal alliances rather than logic... Cos if corruption is just but a tool to hammer your opponent with, i'd rather stick with the thieving brother from my community than the so-called progressives.
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Post by b6k on Oct 25, 2011 20:07:09 GMT 3
Tactician what about those of us who may never have brethren at the drivers seat?
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Post by tactician on Oct 25, 2011 21:26:32 GMT 3
Tactician what about those of us who may never have brethren at the drivers seat? for you, it is indeed easier to make an ideological choice or a personal self benefitting choice. Its rather like having either your brother being charged in court or your distant cousin. For most people, it is easier to reach a decision as to the suspects guilt when its your distant cousin on the dock rather than your brother. So for you, i would say you have the best of it.
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 25, 2011 21:42:07 GMT 3
I somehow missed this whole story. Does anybody know if the PM has resigned already? When is the censure motion? The political drama of Kenyans is amazing. The same people, politicians and their supporters even here in Jukwaa who defended Ongeri to the core are now hopping mad that Raila should resign mara moja. Is it any wonder that the war on corruption is dead like a dodo? It is just political football for everybody. Today Ruto is defending Ongeri on corruption tomorrow Ruto wants so and so to resign for corruption. How can anybody take these people seriously?
The DN story itself is confusing. On one hand they announce that the WB has cancelled the KKV projects then they report a different story from Isahakia. Is it that hard to actually just get the story straight from the World Bank and tell Kenyans what is going on instead of giving all sorts of conflicting reports. How much money did the PM's office handle directly. Please spare us the drama that the PM is accountable for how the Roads Ministry of the Environment Ministry handles its money. If that were the case Raila would be resigning at least once every day including sundays. Every body there is robbing the country.
I want the PM held accountable for money spent by the OPM and so far even that is all over the map. The PM should also use the opportunity to demand a full accounting of the money in all the ministries disbursed through his office and those found to have messed up held accountable. It is usually impossible for the PM to get that because the ministries are run like islands unto themselves.
We need to know the process the money is allocated. Where does the Treasury allocate the money? What system of accountability do they maintain? How is that coordinated with the PM?
It seems the DN story is blatantly twisted. Mara all the Kshs 972 million has been misappropriated and now the bank wants its money back. That is false. Mara the entire KKV project has been cancelled. That is false. It seems the WB has issues with what some of the money has been spent on. That needs to be sorted out and the culprits held responsible. But you can't do that with sensational falsehoods flying all over the place. The thieves get off easy when politics comes in and nobody cares for the truth and some just screampolitical slogans for the sake of it. How does that help in fighting corruption?
If Kenyans ever tried to fight corruption without the political garbage it will get somewhere. Until then forget it. It is just political noise and tomorrow they will jump on something else. Everything is politics. And we wonder why we are in such a mess! And what happened to the KACC officials still in office. Are they doing anything? Is there anybody handling cases of corruption today? How about the DPP? Still sleeping?
If the country survives beyond 2012 may be we will have a chance. Until then good luck.
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Post by tactician on Oct 26, 2011 0:23:18 GMT 3
Youth jobs cash probe started in June: WB SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING Alternative text. By PETER NG’ETICH pngetich@ ke.nationmedia.com Posted Tuesday, October 25 2011 at 22:21 The World Bank on Tuesday said it began investigations into a youth programme under the Office of Prime Minister four months ago. The financial institution said the investigation led to the subsequent cancellation of the programme on October 11. (READ: WB cancels funding for Kenya youth project) The funds would be diverted to other activities aimed at raising youth employment in the country, the Bank added. In a statement sent to newsrooms titled World Bank on Kenya Youth Empowerment Project locally known as Kazi Kwa Vijana, the financial institution stated that on August 18, 2010, three projects were initiated under the programme. In the projects, three components were identified, including labour-intensive works and social services to which Sh4.3 billion was allocated and was to be coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister. It was called Component I. In the second programme, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (Kepsa) was given Sh1.5 billion for private sector internships and training and called Component II. The Ministry of Youth and Sports was given another Sh1.5 billion under the programme to provide capacity-building and policy development. This was called Component III. The World Bank said that while it was satisfied with how Components II and III utilised their funds, it was not happy with how the OPM expended its funds. The Bank said it will continue funding the Kepsa and Youth ministry components. The international institution said a financial management review of Component I found that transactions totalling Sh33,061,925 required further clarification from the government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of the fund. At the same time, Prime Minister Raila Odinga will face a parliamentary committee over the alleged embezzlement of funds. Public Accounts committee chairman Bonny Khalwale said they also want the auditor general to do an audit on the Kazi Kwa Vijana programme before they question the PM. Sports assistant minister Kabando wa kabando said the PM should take political responsibility over the scam. (READ: PM told to resign over jobs scandal) www.nation.co.ke/News/Youth+jobs+cash+probe+started+in+June+Bank+/-/1056/1261886/-/bsbt0s/-/index.html
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Post by job on Oct 26, 2011 1:58:49 GMT 3
Despite selective and biased reporting, FACTS, are still lacking regarding this claim. The Daily Nation has modified its story after initially LYING that funding for the project from the World Bank was stopped yada yada yada....
Whereas I've been advocating for replacement of both the PS and Chief of Staff at the PM's office for quite some time, it appears there's a concerted effort by media to hype and politicize this issue with the aim of tainting the PM's name. K-24 TV's Jeff Koinange tries to jump into the bandwagon...but Deputy Speaker Farah Maalim unleashes a reality-checker!
I'm wondering why the WB officials would want to meet the PS in the OPM after, & not before, their report. Something about this whole story doesn't add up....right from DN's original erroneous reporting, to the PS (OPM)'s response...and now this article above...I'll chose to wait for the full facts. In the meantime, I would support the Auditor General's audit of usage of the funds and the relevant Parliamentary Committee questioning the PM. This way, the PM gets to have a hard look at the staff in his office.
And when are we having Parliamentary Committee probes for the REAL MEGA SCAMS like TRITON et al.?
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Post by Omwenga on Oct 26, 2011 11:53:11 GMT 3
Omwenga When one's head is stuck so deep another's behind, then reason tends to be thrown out of the window. You seem to fall in this class of people. I hope when activist Omtatah was chaining himself outside Jogoo house and gettng arrested for making noise demanding Ongeri's resignation, you cheered the authorities that arrested him for if you did not, then you are the typical Kenyan hypocrite who sees things in one angle only. Bure kabisa. Kamalat, Instead of payukaring here, take your time and either read through my blogs or get in touch with Omtatah directly if you have his contact and ask him to tell you about me and where I stood relative to his protests. Also, you are asking questions I have already answered in my post which I assume you read before commenting and if the distinctions and differences I clearly point out there do not help you answer those questions, nothing else can. It is laughable people like you think and believe I am being paid by Raila to do what I do but if that makes you feel good or happy, suit yourself. It certainly does not change the substance of what I say and the proposition itself is illogical and dumb on its face: What's wrong with being paid to think and provide analysis? Isn't that what political analysts do for a living? Does getting paid or not getting paid bear any relevance to incisive political reasoning by an analyst other than the converse is true? And in the same line of thought, I don't know whose behinds you stick your head but I can assure you this is one man who sticks his head in nobody's behind.
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Post by kamalet on Oct 26, 2011 12:15:11 GMT 3
Omwenga When one's head is stuck so deep another's behind, then reason tends to be thrown out of the window. You seem to fall in this class of people. I hope when activist Omtatah was chaining himself outside Jogoo house and gettng arrested for making noise demanding Ongeri's resignation, you cheered the authorities that arrested him for if you did not, then you are the typical Kenyan hypocrite who sees things in one angle only. Bure kabisa. Kamalat, Instead of payukaring here, take your time and either read through my blogs or get in touch with Omtatah directly if you have his contact and ask him to tell you about me and where I stood relative to his protests. Also, you are asking questions I have already answered in my post which I assume you read before commenting and if the distinctions and differences I clearly point out there do not help you answer those questions, nothing else can. It is laughable people like you think and believe I am being paid by Raila to do what I do but if that makes you feel good or happy, suit yourself. It certainly does not change the substance of what I say and the proposition itself is illogical and dumb on its face: What's wrong with being paid to think and provide analysis? Isn't that what political analysts do for a living? Does getting paid or not getting paid bear any relevance to incisive political reasoning by an analyst other than the converse is true? And in the same line of thought, I don't know whose behinds you stick your head but I can assure you this is one man who sticks his head in nobody's behind. Omwenga You either decide to read or declare you can not read. I do not need to know you for that is not important and it is highly unlikely that you will see me visiting your blog if it is so full of the stuff you try to peddle here in Jukwaa. No one accused you of being paid unless of course you are feeling guilty and that is really your problem. Mine was very simple... if you see no reason why Raila should resign (and I actually do not expect he will as he will only repeat some bull about investigations and why he cannot go), then you must be one of those cheering the arrest of Omtata, whom I need not speak to about you. I actually do not like the guy!
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Post by kamalet on Oct 26, 2011 13:15:01 GMT 3
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Post by mangai on Oct 26, 2011 14:07:47 GMT 3
I had rather we get the full report and not this selective reporting by Nation which is itself contradictory. From 4.3 billion, 972 million, 57 million, some stations claiming 33 million etc as the money thought to have been lost....It is also very interesting seeing Koinange at K24 prodding his guests on the bench to affirm that somebody should step aside over the issue!
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Post by bkichwa on Oct 26, 2011 16:00:54 GMT 3
Despite selective and biased reporting, FACTS, are still lacking regarding this claim. The Daily Nation has modified its story after initially LYING that funding for the project from the World Bank was stopped yada yada yada.... Whereas I've been advocating for replacement of both the PS and Chief of Staff at the PM's office for quite some time, it appears there's a concerted effort by media to hype and politicize this issue with the aim of tainting the PM's name. K-24 TV's Jeff Koinange tries to jump into the bandwagon...but Deputy Speaker Farah Maalim unleashes a reality-checker! I'm wondering why the WB officials would want to meet the PS in the OPM after, & not before, their report. Something about this whole story doesn't add up....right from DN's original erroneous reporting, to the PS (OPM)'s response...and now this article above...I'll chose to wait for the full facts. In the meantime, I would support the Auditor General's audit of usage of the funds and the relevant Parliamentary Committee questioning the PM. This way, the PM gets to have a hard look at the staff in his office. And when are we having Parliamentary Committee probes for the REAL MEGA SCAMS like TRITON et al.? Gado's opinion always seems to get respect across the board here in Jukwaa. Below is his pictorial for today. Notice the scandal on the extreme left that he throws into the PM's mixed bag of "safi kama pamba" deals. Speaks volumes, doesn't it? And the question in above post (in red) was being asked regarding why REAL MEGA SCAMS like TRITON aren't being probed. Suggestion - how about we forward this particular question to the PM and ask him, as a self-professed anti-corruption crusader, and co-principle in Kenya, to use his influence in personally leading the way in calling for a probe of this particular scandal? Let's then put a monetary wager on how long it will take before we begin hearing the loud sounds of crickets.
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Post by mangai on Oct 26, 2011 16:57:43 GMT 3
As said earlier, we need more information before making any informed opinion on this matter.
DPM Musalia has just issued a Ministerial statement in the House about KKV and laid a number of documents in the house one from the WB indicating the amount in dispute as 33 million. The Bank has indicated that to be a preliminary figure that is subject to change pending some clarifications. Apparently the audit report the Nation had talked about is actually a management review report, unauthenticated. No 'external audit' had been done as per the Nation reports.
A number of mps tried to postpone debate on the matter until they go through the voluminous documents laid in the House with those of the contrary opinion indicating the mps wanted the matter to be postponed for as long as possible so that the truth does not come out and in the process make political capital out of it based on the information that has just been fed to the public. The Speaker overruled deferment and allowed for those interested to get clarifications from Mudavadi. At that point, KBC terminated the live proceedings.
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Post by mangai on Oct 26, 2011 17:37:24 GMT 3
Here is the FULL World Bank clarification on the Nation story. web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/AFRICAEXT/KENYAEXTN/0,,contentMDK:23032229~menuPK:356529~pagePK:2865066~piPK:2865079~theSitePK:356509,00.html Press Release No:2012/131/AFR NAIROBI, October 25, 2011—On Sunday, October 23, 2011, the Sunday Nation published an article under the headline: “World Bank cancels funding for Kazi Kwa Vijana over graft” (page 10). In response to this and further media reports published on the program, the World Bank would like to share the following facts about the Kenya Youth Empowerment Project (KYEP) it finances: The objective of KYEP is to support efforts of the Government of Kenya to increase access to youth-targeted temporary employment programs and to improve youth employability. The project has three components: labor-intensive works and social services (US$43 million), coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM); private sector internships and training (US$15.5 million), managed by the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA); and capacity-building and policy development (US$1.5 million), implemented by the Ministry of Youth and Sports. The KYEP became effective on August 18, 2010. The first disbursement to the Government for Component 1, in the amount of US$9.3 million, took place on February 7, 2011. This was subsequently allocated to six implementing line ministries to undertake public works for youth: the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, the Ministry of Regional Development Authorities, the Ministry of Roads, Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife, the Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources, and the Ministry of Local Government, as well as to the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM) to coordinate and monitor project activities. In June 2011, the World Bank initiated a Financial Management Review of the KYEP. This is a standard exercise undertaken for all World Bank-financed projects during implementation. The working draft of the Financial Management Review stated that transactions totaling Ksh 33,061,925 required further validation or clarification from the Government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of KYEP funds. The World Bank will continue to work with OPM to review these transactions in the coming days, with a view to determining definitively whether they are or are not eligible for KYEP financing. Meanwhile, the Government let the World Bank know on October 11 that it wished to cancel Component 1 of KYEP and reorient the resources to other activities aiming to raise youth employment in Kenya. The remaining KYEP components, including support to the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA) and to the Ministry of Youth and Sports, will continue, and performance to date under these components has been satisfactory. This is how the Nation reports/distorts the same story. Be the judge.........www.nation.co.ke/News/Youth+jobs+cash+probe+started+in+June+Bank+/-/1056/1261886/-/bsbt0s/-/index.htmlThe World Bank on Tuesday said it began investigations into a youth programme under the Office of Prime Minister four months ago. The financial institution said the investigation led to the subsequent cancellation of the programme on October 11. (READ: WB cancels funding for Kenya youth project) The funds would be diverted to other activities aimed at raising youth employment in the country, the Bank added. In a statement sent to newsrooms titled World Bank on Kenya Youth Empowerment Project locally known as Kazi Kwa Vijana, the financial institution stated that on August 18, 2010, three projects were initiated under the programme. In the projects, three components were identified, including labour-intensive works and social services to which Sh4.3 billion was allocated and was to be coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister. It was called Component I. In the second programme, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (Kepsa) was given Sh1.5 billion for private sector internships and training and called Component II. The Ministry of Youth and Sports was given another Sh1.5 billion under the programme to provide capacity-building and policy development. This was called Component III. The World Bank said that while it was satisfied with how Components II and III utilised their funds, it was not happy with how the OPM expended its funds. The Bank said it will continue funding the Kepsa and Youth ministry components. The international institution said a financial management review of Component I found that transactions totalling Sh33,061,925 required further clarification from the government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of the fund. At the same time, Prime Minister Raila Odinga will face a parliamentary committee over the alleged embezzlement of funds. Public Accounts committee chairman Bonny Khalwale said they also want the auditor general to do an audit on the Kazi Kwa Vijana programme before they question the PM. Sports assistant minister Kabando wa kabando said the PM should take political responsibility over the scam. (READ: PM told to resign over jobs scandal)
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Post by jeff on Oct 26, 2011 19:44:53 GMT 3
Here is the FULL World Bank clarification on the Nation story. web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/AFRICAEXT/KENYAEXTN/0,,contentMDK:23032229~menuPK:356529~pagePK:2865066~piPK:2865079~theSitePK:356509,00.html Press Release No:2012/131/AFR NAIROBI, October 25, 2011—On Sunday, October 23, 2011, the Sunday Nation published an article under the headline: “World Bank cancels funding for Kazi Kwa Vijana over graft” (page 10). In response to this and further media reports published on the program, the World Bank would like to share the following facts about the Kenya Youth Empowerment Project (KYEP) it finances: The objective of KYEP is to support efforts of the Government of Kenya to increase access to youth-targeted temporary employment programs and to improve youth employability. The project has three components: labor-intensive works and social services (US$43 million), coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM); private sector internships and training (US$15.5 million), managed by the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA); and capacity-building and policy development (US$1.5 million), implemented by the Ministry of Youth and Sports. The KYEP became effective on August 18, 2010. The first disbursement to the Government for Component 1, in the amount of US$9.3 million, took place on February 7, 2011. This was subsequently allocated to six implementing line ministries to undertake public works for youth: the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, the Ministry of Regional Development Authorities, the Ministry of Roads, Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife, the Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources, and the Ministry of Local Government, as well as to the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM) to coordinate and monitor project activities. In June 2011, the World Bank initiated a Financial Management Review of the KYEP. This is a standard exercise undertaken for all World Bank-financed projects during implementation. The working draft of the Financial Management Review stated that transactions totaling Ksh 33,061,925 required further validation or clarification from the Government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of KYEP funds. The World Bank will continue to work with OPM to review these transactions in the coming days, with a view to determining definitively whether they are or are not eligible for KYEP financing. Meanwhile, the Government let the World Bank know on October 11 that it wished to cancel Component 1 of KYEP and reorient the resources to other activities aiming to raise youth employment in Kenya. The remaining KYEP components, including support to the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA) and to the Ministry of Youth and Sports, will continue, and performance to date under these components has been satisfactory. This is how the Nation reports/distorts the same story. Be the judge.........www.nation.co.ke/News/Youth+jobs+cash+probe+started+in+June+Bank+/-/1056/1261886/-/bsbt0s/-/index.htmlThe World Bank on Tuesday said it began investigations into a youth programme under the Office of Prime Minister four months ago. The financial institution said the investigation led to the subsequent cancellation of the programme on October 11. (READ: WB cancels funding for Kenya youth project) The funds would be diverted to other activities aimed at raising youth employment in the country, the Bank added. In a statement sent to newsrooms titled World Bank on Kenya Youth Empowerment Project locally known as Kazi Kwa Vijana, the financial institution stated that on August 18, 2010, three projects were initiated under the programme. In the projects, three components were identified, including labour-intensive works and social services to which Sh4.3 billion was allocated and was to be coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister. It was called Component I. In the second programme, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (Kepsa) was given Sh1.5 billion for private sector internships and training and called Component II. The Ministry of Youth and Sports was given another Sh1.5 billion under the programme to provide capacity-building and policy development. This was called Component III. The World Bank said that while it was satisfied with how Components II and III utilised their funds, it was not happy with how the OPM expended its funds. The Bank said it will continue funding the Kepsa and Youth ministry components. The international institution said a financial management review of Component I found that transactions totalling Sh33,061,925 required further clarification from the government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of the fund. At the same time, Prime Minister Raila Odinga will face a parliamentary committee over the alleged embezzlement of funds. Public Accounts committee chairman Bonny Khalwale said they also want the auditor general to do an audit on the Kazi Kwa Vijana programme before they question the PM. Sports assistant minister Kabando wa kabando said the PM should take political responsibility over the scam. (READ: PM told to resign over jobs scandal) Mangai, It is apparent that there is some concern raised by WB over the usage of the KKV funds allocated to OPM. I think that the word 'embezzlement' is what we are looking for in the WB press release but these guys have a way with words and we need not get overly excited, yet. More often than not, institutions like WB will not likely have audit departments to go auditing project funds usage. Rather, they normally engage reputable outside consultants mainly from top audit firms - PWC, Deloitte, KPMG, etc. That why i think it is highly likely that there is an audit report by Mr. PWC or Deloitte, or even KPMG saying that funds meant for KKV were diverted to other uses. I notice that in and outside Jukwaa there is concerted effort to down play the issue at OPM and project the PM as 'not directly responsible' for the loss of funds, if any, and therefore the seriousness of the matter. Here is what Rarienda MP, Nicholas Gumbo, said when the story broke: "[The PM's function of supervision] does not entail execution and that is why when Anglo-Leasing happened no one asked the President to resign, it was the line ministers that were asked to resign. So why do you want to ask him (Odinga) and the responsibility of execution lies in the Ministries of Environment, Forestry, Water and all the other ministries?"By the way which amounts are we talking about? Is it 33m or 900m? Who brought the issue of 900m? MPs Pollyns Ochieng (Nyakach) and Benjamin Washiali (Mumias) called for patience until the World Bank finalises investigations into the loss of an estimated Sh900 million disbursed to the project.
“This amount was actually used to fuel government vehicles that were used to supervise this project. That is where the World Bank lays claim that they never authorized the government to use the Sh900 million to fuel vehicles. They said their money was to go direct to the projects and this is what some people are trying to hype so much,” Ochieng said.www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2011/10/which-way-raila-over-kkv-funds/There is also the allegations of non-existent seminars and the PM's aide who traveled to some environmental conference debiting the KKV funds. From the foregoing, i can only conclude that 1. There is an audit report somewhere (whether final or draft) querying the usage of KKV funds at the OPM. 2. People close to OPM are aware of the existence of that report. They are even aware of it's contents, that is why they are volunteering information on how the funds were used....'to fuel govt cars, etc'. in the public domain instead of going to WB. 3. The PM might not have been privy to any misappropriations of funds in his office and i guess that is why he has not commented on the issue until it 'calms' down. However, it seem his close aides were fully aware of what was happening with the funds. 4. The only option left to the PM's friends is to try and distance him from the mess while trying to clean it through a propaganda war. Obviously those closely involved in the scam are looking for a way of protecting themselves. The propaganda war has even extended to our own Jukwaa. My view is that ultimately, the PM will have to take the bull by the horns and take some action, whatever this might be. PS. ....there are rumours that MM has a dossier of corruption in the OPM. ... MM was sacked from OPM at the beginning of August. ....The WB investigation in to misappropriation of KKV funds started in August. Is this just a coincidence? Just what did MM do to Isahakia and Caroli that made them that mad with him? Was MM's 'indiscipline' the only reason? MM could be a walking time-bomb........
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Post by mangai on Oct 26, 2011 20:16:39 GMT 3
Mangai, It is apparent that there is some concern raised by WB over the usage of the KKV funds allocated to OPM. I think that the word 'embezzlement' is what we are looking for in the WB press release but these guys have a way with words and we need not get overly excited, yet. More often than not, institutions like WB will not likely have audit departments to go auditing project funds usage. Rather, they normally engage reputable outside consultants mainly from top audit firms - PWC, Deloitte, KPMG, etc. That why i think it is highly likely that there is an audit report by Mr. PWC or Deloitte, or even KPMG saying that funds meant for KKV were diverted to other uses. I notice that in and outside Jukwaa there is concerted effort to down play the issue at OPM and project the PM as 'not directly responsible' for the loss of funds, if any, and therefore the seriousness of the matter. Here is what Rarienda MP, Nicholas Gumbo, said when the story broke: "[The PM's function of supervision] does not entail execution and that is why when Anglo-Leasing happened no one asked the President to resign, it was the line ministers that were asked to resign. So why do you want to ask him (Odinga) and the responsibility of execution lies in the Ministries of Environment, Forestry, Water and all the other ministries?"By the way which amounts are we talking about? Is it 33m or 900m? Who brought the issue of 900m? MPs Pollyns Ochieng (Nyakach) and Benjamin Washiali (Mumias) called for patience until the World Bank finalises investigations into the loss of an estimated Sh900 million disbursed to the project.
“This amount was actually used to fuel government vehicles that were used to supervise this project. That is where the World Bank lays claim that they never authorized the government to use the Sh900 million to fuel vehicles. They said their money was to go direct to the projects and this is what some people are trying to hype so much,” Ochieng said.www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2011/10/which-way-raila-over-kkv-funds/There is also the allegations of non-existent seminars and the PM's aide who traveled to some environmental conference debiting the KKV funds. From the foregoing, i can only conclude that 1. There is an audit report somewhere (whether final or draft) querying the usage of KKV funds at the OPM. 2. People close to OPM are aware of the existence of that report. They are even aware of it's contents, that is why they are volunteering information on how the funds were used....'to fuel govt cars, etc'. in the public domain instead of going to WB. 3. The PM might not have been privy to any misappropriations of funds in his office and i guess that is why he has not commented on the issue until it 'calms' down. However, it seem his close aides were fully aware of what was happening with the funds. 4. The only option left to the PM's friends is to try and distance him from the mess while trying to clean it through a propaganda war. Obviously those closely involved in the scam are looking for a way of protecting themselves. The propaganda war has even extended to our own Jukwaa. My view is that ultimately, the PM will have to take the bull by the horns and take some action, whatever this might be. PS. ....there are rumours that MM has a dossier of corruption in the OPM. ... MM was sacked from OPM at the beginning of August. ....The WB investigation in to misappropriation of KKV funds started in August. Is this just a coincidence? Just what did MM do to Isahakia and Caroli that made them that mad with him? Was MM's 'indiscipline' the only reason? MM could be a walking time-bomb........ Jeff, I am not supporting Raila in this case. My argument has been we get all the facts before we can objectively comment on this issue, not relying on the Nation report which appears to be changing from the initial reporting. The following however appear to be the case: - The amount in dispute is about 33 million which amount the WB will seek a clarification from the OPM on why it was spent on projects that appear not related to KKV World Bank has not cancelled the Kshs. 4.3 billion KKV funding as per the Nation report
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 26, 2011 20:29:31 GMT 3
Jeff,
The World Bank Review started in June according to the WB statement posted here. So where do you get the information that the WB "investigation" started in August after Miguna left. You just made that up, didn't you?
Secondly we now have the actual WB statement which makes a complete mockery of the DN story that Kamale posted at the beginning of this thread. Basically the DN shamelessly just made up stories. The only truth is that there was an ongoing WB Review of projects. The rest they made up and now the WB itself has to come up and dismiss most of their cooked up stories. We have gone through all that.
The premise of the DN story which people like Ruto jumped on without checking facts was that the WB is demanding to be repaid Kshs 942 million. That is a plain lie cooked up by the DN. Already the Ruto were screaming that the PM shoudl repay the 970 million himself. Now what?
Yes, there are issues with the way at least Kshs 33 million was spent. It is even very possible that somebody was dipping into the money. But the desperation of lies, cooked up stories and break neck attempt to drag the PM into the problem and start screaming step aside is what does not add up. Why can't people just deal with the facts as they are or at least as we know them?
I have said before and I will say it again the PM need to be held accountable for money spent by his office and if his chaps are messing up or too incompetent to run important programs like these throw them out and take responsibility for the activities in your office.
But the political vultures trying to blow this into what it is not are not helping and they sure are not fooling anybody.
The story Kamale first posted from the DN is a complete fraud and all the tears and cries for action based on such false stuff now look phony and very hollow if not just plain political rubbish. You cannot go to a funeral before folk is dead, you may end up drowning in your own tears and being buried yourself. As long as politics drive the romours of some war against corruption somewhere in Kenya the thieves are very safe.
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Post by job on Oct 26, 2011 20:40:09 GMT 3
Here is the FULL World Bank clarification on the Nation story.
web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/AFRICAEXT/KENYAEXTN/0,,contentMDK:23032229~menuPK:356529~pagePK:2865066~piPK:2865079~theSitePK:356509,00.html
Press Release No:2012/131/AFR
NAIROBI, October 25, 2011—On Sunday, October 23, 2011, the Sunday Nation published an article under the headline: “World Bank cancels funding for Kazi Kwa Vijana over graft” (page 10). In response to this and further media reports published on the program, the World Bank would like to share the following facts about the Kenya Youth Empowerment Project (KYEP) it finances: The objective of KYEP is to support efforts of the Government of Kenya to increase access to youth-targeted temporary employment programs and to improve youth employability. The project has three components: labor-intensive works and social services (US$43 million), coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM); private sector internships and training (US$15.5 million), managed by the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA); and capacity-building and policy development (US$1.5 million), implemented by the Ministry of Youth and Sports. The KYEP became effective on August 18, 2010. The first disbursement to the Government for Component 1, in the amount of US$9.3 million, took place on February 7, 2011. This was subsequently allocated to six implementing line ministries to undertake public works for youth: the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, the Ministry of Regional Development Authorities, the Ministry of Roads, Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife, the Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources, and the Ministry of Local Government, as well as to the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM) to coordinate and monitor project activities. In June 2011, the World Bank initiated a Financial Management Review of the KYEP. This is a standard exercise undertaken for all World Bank-financed projects during implementation. The working draft of the Financial Management Review stated that transactions totaling Ksh 33,061,925 required further validation or clarification from the Government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of KYEP funds. The World Bank will continue to work with OPM to review these transactions in the coming days, with a view to determining definitively whether they are or are not eligible for KYEP financing. Meanwhile, the Government let the World Bank know on October 11 that it wished to cancel Component 1 of KYEP and reorient the resources to other activities aiming to raise youth employment in Kenya. The remaining KYEP components, including support to the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA) and to the Ministry of Youth and Sports, will continue, and performance to date under these components has been satisfactory.This is how the Nation reports/distorts the same story. Be the judge.........www.nation.co.ke/News/Youth+jobs+cash+probe+started+in+June+Bank+/-/1056/1261886/-/bsbt0s/-/index.htmlThe World Bank on Tuesday said it began investigations into a youth programme under the Office of Prime Minister four months ago. LIE 1 The financial institution said the investigation led to the subsequent cancellation of the programme on October 11. The funds would be diverted to other activities aimed at raising youth employment in the country, the Bank added. In a statement sent to newsrooms titled World Bank on Kenya Youth Empowerment Project locally known as Kazi Kwa Vijana, the financial institution stated that on August 18, 2010, three projects were initiated under the programme. In the projects, three components were identified, including labour-intensive works and social services to which Sh4.3 billion was allocated and was to be coordinated by the Office of the Prime Minister. It was called Component I. In the second programme, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (Kepsa) was given Sh1.5 billion for private sector internships and training and called Component II. The Ministry of Youth and Sports was given another Sh1.5 billion under the programme to provide capacity-building and policy development. This was called Component III. LIE 2 The World Bank said that while it was satisfied with how Components II and III utilised their funds, it was not happy with how the OPM expended its funds. The Bank said it will continue funding the Kepsa and Youth ministry components. The international institution said a financial management review of Component I found that transactions totalling Sh33,061,925 required further clarification from the government to determine whether they were eligible to be paid out of the fund. MISLEADING CONNECTION FROM THE LIES At the same time, Prime Minister Raila Odinga will face a parliamentary committee over the alleged embezzlement of funds. Public Accounts committee chairman Bonny Khalwale said they also want the auditor general to do an audit on the Kazi Kwa Vijana programme before they question the PM. Sports assistant minister Kabando wa kabando said the PM should take political responsibility over the scam. (READ: PM told to resign over jobs scandal) That is how the Daily Nation editorial propaganda machine works as countdown 2012 approaches. Rather than give facts concerning graft to help unravel them, they will lie, distort, misrepresent, and misreport the story for obvious political reasons. In the en, the public will be denied a chance to decipher facts and truths from myths and lies. The Daily Nation has shown it will go at great lengths to propagate the moral equivalency theory of "afterall, wote ni wezi!" They specifically released it when the PM was enroute to Europe. The World Bank Clarification above speaks for itself.1) The Daily Nation LIE that KKV funds wer canceled by WB is patently EXPOSED. 2) It is indeed Kibaki's government that recently requested the WB (for obvious political reasons) to redirect the funds away from Consortium I (tangible and visible KKV youth jobs in the Ministries of Water and Irrigation, Regional Development Authorities, Roads, Forestry and Wildlife, Environment and Mineral Resources, and Local Government). PNU is definitely playing sabotage politics with this project, denying the youth the handy jobs...then using the Daily Nation to plant a fake story about corruption plaguing the KKV initiative...to deliberately kill it.3) The Daily Nation misrepresentation that Consortium I funds were solely disbursed to the OPM has also been exposed as a fat LIE. WB clearly outlines six implementing line ministries through which Consortium I funds were disbursed for youth public works, namely: the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, the Ministry of Regional Development Authorities, the Ministry of Roads, Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife, the Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources, and the Ministry of Local Government. 4) As for Bkichwa and the TRITON scandal. I'm frankly eager to see this TRITON and other ENERGY MINISTRY scandals prosecuted. This applies to the other mega scams (GRAND REGENCY, ANGLO LEASING, KEN REN, MAIZE, AIRPORT, TANA DELTA LAND, INFRASTRUCTURE PROCUREMENTS ET AL). You surely know the latter are the scams that have caused the most damage to taxpayers in terms of cost. As you fall over yourself asking the PM to lead a crusade in probing Triton, did you listen to Farah Maalim's interview above where he asks the pertinent question ..."does the Prime Minister have any substantive powers to launch an investigation in a PNU led Ministry (Energy)? Does bkichwa, surely believe the PM has powers to suspend any Minister (ODM or PNU) even if he had evidence the said is involved in corruption. Even if it was one of the Consortium I line ministries implementing the WB funds? What if it was a PS in the OPM involved, is it Muthaura (head of civl service) & Kibaki (president); or is it Raila who calls such shots? That was Faraah's pregnant point. You bkichwa, an avid see-no-evil-in-Kibaki supporter has never raised voice to ask your revered President - THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL WITH SUBSTANTIVE POWERS TO ACT - to investigate Triton and all these other scandals you showcase! Why can't you urge your guy at State House to spare us any drama and use his presidential executive powers and super-duper will, to probe the PM or any other culprit, and start the godarn prosecutions. How about truth-telling and reality for change?
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Post by b6k on Oct 26, 2011 20:44:18 GMT 3
So one side has political vultures hovering around undead folk whilst the other has benign watchmen who never sleep as they keep their beady eyes trained on Isaack Hassan et al dare they make a false step. You just gotta love the GCG with all it's in-built checks & balances...
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 26, 2011 20:51:22 GMT 3
So one side has political vultures hovering around undead folk whilst the other has benign watchmen who never sleep as they keep their beady eyes trained on Isaack Hassan et al dare they make a false step. You just gotta love the GCG with all it's in-built checks & balances... I think you read too much of what I write. I may start charging some fee if this goes on. I could use some cash right about now. So let me know if you could use some zingers from adongo ogony and the invoice will be on the way. It is a sliding scale, no need to panic if resources(cash) are tight. No dude left behind is my policy. Bottom line is DN lied profusely and those who swallowed their story whole have egg all over. Lets get the facts straight and fight corruption with facts not political fiction. I have said my piece on that several times in this very thread. People were crying on how Kenyan youth will suffer because the WB is stopping the funding and Raila had stolen Kashs 972 million. Utter rubbish it turns out and that is from the WB which the last time I checked does not belong to ODM. Facts are stubborn things. The OPM has a problem with Kshs 33 million which is a lot of money by itself. How was that money spent? Where was it spent? Was it spent for the benefit of the youth? Those are questions we have to ask but with a ton of lies jammed in for political expediency even those questions are not being asked because the big lies have fallen in their face rather badly when the WB itself found it necessary to issue a clarification after the DN cooks came with their falsehoods. .
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Post by b6k on Oct 26, 2011 21:09:42 GMT 3
Adongo no invoice required. I probably read too much INTO what you write. Besides, isn't the Canadian $ stronger than the US$ nowadays? Let's not go down that slippery slope
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Post by adongo23456 on Oct 26, 2011 22:28:14 GMT 3
Adongo no invoice required. I probably read too much INTO what you write. Besides, isn't the Canadian $ stronger than the US$ nowadays? Let's not go down that slippery slope Sawa my friend. I am going to double up on the lottery tickets. That is a sure path to wealth and richness beyond belief. No stone will be left unturned. And I will not forget my friends once the load is home. Hang in there. Help is on the way. Now if only those tickets could obey my orders! Talking about stones unturned. Where are the anti-corruption wariors to help us with this. Who is stepping aside here. The thieves of Kenya are legendary. It just never ends. Here we go: www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1262150/-/item/0/-/15dm2x0/-/index.html
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Post by einstein on Oct 26, 2011 23:06:56 GMT 3
MPs want Raila to resign over Kazi kwa Vijana scandal
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