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Post by job on Apr 23, 2012 23:48:46 GMT 3
Keep dreaming my friend. You are one heck of a forecaster - remember you predicting the Banana referendum victory in 2005? Didn't you declare Raila unelectable back in 2006. Now you suddenly attribute the Luhya constituency to Raila ..which you claim he is about to 'lose'. If I were depending on your bets, we wouldn't have the new Katiba passed. Lastly, what's up with Muthamaki's campaign? Has he got a party yet? Ama GEMA will be it. What'bout ICC manenos? Job, Wake up and smell the coffee my friend. The tragedy that is Raila ardent supporters is that they are caught in a time warp. They just cant stop living in the past. While in the past, Raila had a galaxy of political stars with whom he could and actually build coalitions, the dynamics are very different now. Those very stars are now establishing their own homes and are moving away with their mabati and misumari (in Ruto's words) leaving Raila in a demolished house Raila with only minions like Namwamba, Omar Hassan, Bishop Wanjiru etc to turn to. Where will such fellows take him and ODM? It is over my friend. We are simply staring at a very sad end to an otherwise what would have been a very successful individual journey of Raila Odinga (albeit built on lies and violence and nothing more). Simple, stupid mistakes have cost him the coveted price. Ole wake. PS: As far as ICC goes, you are putting your money on a dead horse. This thing died the day Uhuru sat in that dock with those oversize earphones and played with Ocampo like a cat playing with a mouse. The whole world saw what these cases are all about; politics, pure and simple. You had better sit down as ODM and rethink your strategy, all politics is local. Otherwise banking on this mzungu court to do the bidding for you is pushing your luck too far. You are one very delusional character; living in a fantasy denial world of make believe. You certainly don't realize that accused persons at the ICC are facing the most serious charges ever known by any court. You actually think of them as "stars" (your own words). Well, watch the stars fade into Den Haag's horizon. Welcome to reality. Let's start with your illusionary star who evicted Mzee Adrian Muteshi from the mzee's 100 acre farm in Eldoret. How many court cases will this star keep answering to? Is this Muteshi case also political.. yaani engineered by Raila and his Wazungu friends? Isn't the illusionary bought-land-at-age-eight phantom christened Dorothy Yator another political creation of Raila and the dam.n Wazungu. Was this star's ear-phone rendition at the ICC court chambers also mind-blowingly awesome (like the Mungiki star's ) that he doesn't need to bother with all these small ICC manenos anymore? Is that why the cantankerous star is now running helter skelter with mabatis and nails building one hut (UDM) to another (URP)? Puleeeeze! The fictional movie has become a true life movie. Ok what about the court impressario - the wanyokwa star? In your books, the ICC case was 'finished' the moment the BOSS addressed the court. I wonder then why his serious charges for murder; rapes; forced evictions; and persecution were promptly confirmed immediately after his fantastic rendition. Helloooo! Wake up to the real world. What about his awesome political skills. Can you show us where has he perched his mabati hut at - his promised deadline has lapsed? Why was he booted out of KANU? Could it be because of his blood-stained hands? Why is this gifted star not running the country's Treasury? Come back to reality mwalimu! Let the mzungu court and Mutunga's courts do their thing. Meanwhile let more mabati huts be built for your likes to jump into. Does it really matter? Me don't think so.
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Post by merlin on Apr 24, 2012 12:53:04 GMT 3
I cannot imagine that this Simekha character thinks that the move my Mudavadi is of no consequence! Allowing Raila to pick his perfect running mate will not necessarily translate to a successful bid on the for the main seat. Raila loses a constituency that was beholden to Mudavadi and it is clear there is this recognition of the fact that Mudavadi would be a loss to ODM when Raila sends emmisaries to Mudavadi including bribing Luhyia MPs to ask Mudavadi to return to ODM. Whilst Mudavadi will hurt Raila and ODM, there is little chance he can do anything for himself in this move which is unfortunately very late in the day. With alliances already formed, accommodating a Johnny come lately and then propel him to be the flag bearer would be riding on too much luck - and this will be Mudavadi's position! Kamale,The vote for the constitution has brought great change for Kenya. People look different to their leaders after hearing many lies (misinterpretations) from them. I even reconsider my opinion regarding John Cardinal Nue and Peter Karanja in their persistence presenting misinterpretations to their followers. After all it has been a stimulating factor in the awakening of the citizens that they could think for themselves. The trust in leaders has waned and many venture out from the tribal cocoon listening to other leaders who they perceive as more realistic (honest) as their own tribal leader. The running away of Mudavadi from ODM does not change so quickly their opinion about ODM or Raila especially as the arguments for running away are not sounding very important or even realistic. For the elderly voters who still think yesteryears their leader has to be a strong warrior telling them how he will fight for them and where he will take them. Mudavadi is a disappointment to them as he does not say how he will fight and where he will take them. The longer Mudavadi keeps lamenting why he did run away the more they see him as a weak leader and probably do not vote for him. So most likely Mudavadi will not take the full constituency vote with him. You state that your imagination has reached a dead end; “I cannot imagine that this Simekha character thinks that the move my Mudavadi is of no consequence!” I think it would be fruitful to you if you consider the changing effects in the political arena when you project voting behaviour. Change is happening in everything and everywhere. We should always be open for change and go with it.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Apr 28, 2012 23:15:56 GMT 3
well, after 'consulting widely' son of substone is close to making up his mind. the plan is to run SEPARATELY (never mind that both are still partyless) then somehow CONVERGE at the ballot and hopefully in the next government. ;Das for the other members of the G7 or is it now G8..... The political paths of the two Deputy Prime Ministers are set to merge, even as they make separate plans to get to State House.
Strategists working for Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Musalia Mudavadi want them to approach the General Election as a team, like they did a decade ago. But, unlike in 2002, when Mudavadi was Uhuru’s running mate on a Kanu ticket, this time the two will run against each other, with a likelihood of converging at the ballot and, hopefully, in the next government......www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057235&cid=4¤tPage=1
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Post by jakaswanga on Apr 29, 2012 18:24:47 GMT 3
well, after 'consulting widely' son of substone is close to making up his mind. the plan is to run SEPARATELY (never mind that both are still partyless) then somehow CONVERGE at the ballot and hopefully in the next government. ;Das for the other members of the G7 or is it now G8..... The political paths of the two Deputy Prime Ministers are set to merge, even as they make separate plans to get to State House.
Strategists working for Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Musalia Mudavadi want them to approach the General Election as a team, like they did a decade ago. But, unlike in 2002, when Mudavadi was Uhuru’s running mate on a Kanu ticket, this time the two will run against each other, with a likelihood of converging at the ballot and, hopefully, in the next government......www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000057235&cid=4¤tPage=1 Akinyi,So, after pulling Mudavadi out of the ODM for principle ;D, ruining a tag-team which was been very successful, Kabatesi delivers Musalia Mudavadi back to Uhuru Kenyatta! a suspected war-criminal, soon to be on the run! I see the plan. Raila is going nowhere, and Mudavadi would have to wait another term. Uhuru is going places, a dutch jail cell to be specific, and Musalia can immidiately take over. I will grant Kabatesi the chilling eye of a scavenger. Mudavadi is still a vulture, only he has become an impatient one. And it is nice to see him making a high risk manoeuvre, that of an impatient vulture risking being ensnared by a not yet dead prey! Next, watching out for the delegation of luhya ;)elders to Eugene Wamalwa, to convince him to respect grey hairs, release that seat belt, relinquish that front seat in the mbas and ngo sit elsewhere.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Apr 29, 2012 18:48:09 GMT 3
jakaswanga,
while waiting for may 2nd(musalia's new deadline) i think it's safe to speculate on why a previously 'harmless and dedicated 2nd in command' would choose to pull such a high-risk manoeuvre.' so many things still don't add up and it doesn't help that desperation may have set in (both MM and uhuru camps) now that things may not have happened as planned. i think MM expected not just the G7 to view him as an attractive compromise candidate, but his tribesmen to also rally behind him and the eugenes to be prevailed upon to tosha him.....lakini wapi (obiro yie).
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Apr 29, 2012 18:56:23 GMT 3
My jaluo friends never fail to amaze!
You haunt the man out of ODM because he refuses to be used as rubber-stamp and the moment he leaves your party, you are busy following him around like bad smell.
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Post by reporter911 on Apr 29, 2012 19:13:02 GMT 3
My jaluo friends never fail to amaze! You haunt the man out of ODM because he refuses to be used as rubber-stamp and the moment he leaves your party, you are busy following him around like bad smell. are you implying that ODM is owned by Jaluo's since in the same breath you talk about your Jaluo friends and mention ODM national party that has all tribes in Kenya as members? please clarify..
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Post by gemagema on Apr 29, 2012 20:51:40 GMT 3
Mmh! I am really musing and gambling with some probable outcomes come 2012 General elections.
The thing is, if Mudavadi and Uhuru really stick up together...and by this I mean Uhuru to be Mudavadi's running mate and not vice versa...then let the Kenyans be rest assured that RAO will be deep buried if not cremated. However, if Mudavadi is Uhuru's running mate...then in all certainty, such a coalition will not bear fruit. Why? Because Kenyans are not ready to have another Kikuyu president, even if they have Mudavadi slotted in as the vice PORK. So, and I hope Mudavadi and crew are reading these....Mudavadi has no chance as a running mate to Uhuru....the Uhuru marriage will only yield fruit if Uhuru allows (which am sure he and GEMA wont) Mudavadi to be the presidential candidate
Let us call it the Ebb and Flow of Musalia Mudavadi and the miscalculations of the Bo Xilai of Kenya
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Post by bob on Apr 29, 2012 20:56:27 GMT 3
Sadik....You have no place in modern society if you continue to think along the lines of jaluos,kikuyu,kalenjin,luhyas, kisiis etc. As a matter of fact personally would not engage you in any discussion & or debate & would endeavor other members to do the same.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Apr 29, 2012 21:10:16 GMT 3
My jaluo friends never fail to amaze! You haunt the man out of ODM because he refuses to be used as rubber-stamp and the moment he leaves your party, you are busy following him around like bad smell. the man wasn't hounded out of odm and you know that. the party members don't need to 'follow the pong' because it's still right inside the odm house.....well, technically he's still the deputy party leader (ask the RPP) alas, i thought you were cured of the tribal thingy.
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Apr 29, 2012 22:59:57 GMT 3
My jaluo friends are going berserk! Good to see you worked up.
Musalia wanted an even platform to vie for the ODM presidential nomination. He was a ODM member and thought he could stand for election in ODM. He was told, not in many words, that the ODM presidential nomination is reserved for the party leader, and that no amendment will be made to the constitution to allow him to contest it.
The man, broken hearted by the rejection' left. He is yet to recover from the severe injury to feeling he felt.
A decent civilised lot would have left him alone, now that he has made it clear that he is no longer in ODM.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 0:06:01 GMT 3
My jaluo friends are going berserk! Good to see you worked up. Musalia wanted an even platform to vie for the ODM presidential nomination. He was a ODM member and thought he could stand for election in ODM. He was told, not in many words, that the ODM presidential nomination is reserved for the party leader, and that no amendment will be made to the constitution to allow him to contest it. The man, broken hearted by the rejection' left. He is yet to recover from the severe injury to feeling he felt. A decent civilised lot would have left him alone, now that he has made it clear that he is no longer in ODM. sadikDid the "broken hearted" Musalia only in the last few months realize that he wouldn't be the ODM presidential candidate? If so, he needs to fire himself and his advisers and with just cause. Useless! And has Musalia resigned his positions in ODM? I must have missed something. And while you're at portraying him as some kind of angel I'll be watching keenly to see who he teams up with. And I really hope he gets over that sore heart sooner rather than later:'(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 3:41:41 GMT 3
Mudavadi Should have Resigned All His Posts FRIDAY, 27 APRIL 2012 16:35 BY JERRY OKUNGU You cannot lose an election as a Vice President of the Republic of Kenya, lose your constituency seat in the process, five years later jump on some political party bandwagon, get a direct nomination five years later and expect to become the president of the republic five years down the line. It just doesn’t make sense.
Let me state very clearly that I have nothing personal against Musalia Mudavadi. In fact I like him very much as a person and at times I have imagined that we are very good friends. What I’m going to say in this column this week is some kind of truth that the Musalia needs to know. And it can only come from someone like me because I’m his friend.
I watched Musalia Mudavadi’s speech when he addressed Luhya elders and professionals last weekend. I thought he was brilliant. For the first time, the DPM spoke from his heart. Observers could see that here was a wounded warrior pouring his heart out. The speech was very presidential I must admit.
As Musalia spoke; he indeed carried the crowd with him. I could see faces of some of his ardent supporters holding their breath that at last their man had what it takes to be president. After narrating his ordeals at the ODM Orange House, one expected to hear him end his speech with following words: “for these reasons, I, Wycliffe Musalia Mudavadi, do announce my resignation from ODM. Consequently, I hereby tender my resignation as the Deputy Leader of ODM party, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Local Government and Member of Parliament. I will seek reelection to Parliament under a party of my choice and contest the presidential race under that party”.
These are the brave decisions Jaramogi took in 1966, Joseph Murumbi took in 1966, Achieng’ Oneko took in 1966, Kenneth Matiba took in 1988, Mwai Kibaki took in 1991, Raila Odinga took in 1995 and Martha Karua took in 2009.
However, for Musalia, he chose to go on consulting widely! That is not how politicians break away from their parties. When you rebel, you pick your belongings and storm out with a bang! It has to be impactful and devastating. We have had precedents that were neat and respectable.
Soon after the Limuru Conference of 1966, Jaramogi resigned from KANU and formed KPU. He did not consult widely and loudly through the press. He never gave his enemies in KANU time to regroup.
In 1988, Kenneth Matiba stormed out of KANU after the mlolongo fiasco. He never consulted anybody. He only consulted his conscience. Three years later, Mwai Kibaki resigned from KANU to form DP. Consultations were confined to his most trusted friends who never let his intentions known. He did it dramatically on the New Year eve of 1991. Moi was as shocked as everybody else.
Another dramatic party resignation was in December 1995 following the fallout in Ford- Kenya after Jaramogi died. Attempts to reconcile warring parties at Thika in late 1995 ended in disarray. As a consequence, Raila Odinga consulted his conscience and resigned from Ford Kenya and Parliamentary seat to seek reelection under NDP. He never consulted widely.
When in late 2002 the NDP-KANU merger was falling apart, there was only one major consultation at Norfolk Hotel involving JJ Kamotho, George Saitoti, Raila Odinga, Kalonzo Musyoka, William Ole Ntimama, Moody Awori and Fred Gumo. Soon after, there was no need to consult widely. Siasa ya KANU had gone wrong. The professor of politics had differed with his lifetime supporters. They walked out for better or worse.
As late as 2009, Martha Karua had seen comrades she had defended with her own blood drifting away and undermining her. She no longer shared the same values with them in the cabinet and in PNU. She walked away from both.
The examples I have cited show clearly that if a politician is guided by conscience, integrity and principles that he can go to great lengths to sacrifice everything and take some of the greatest risks the faint hearted would dare not.
Like I have said before, I have always had great respect for Musalia Mudavadi. It is the reason when he started campaigning for the ODM ticket; I was one of the first few to urge him to exercise his democratic right to contest. I even advised Raila on these pages that the ODM primaries must be free and fair and that if he intends to fight it out with KKK, G7, G47 and all the other Gs under the sun, he must go all out to win a decisive victory against Musalia.
At that time we believed Musalia and Raila when they promised that they would remain in ODM and that whoever lost in a fair and free contest would support the winner. We did not expect the protagonists to begin campaigning to change rules; the rules they in 2008 during the last NDC gathering.
Having regarded Musalia as a man of integrity, why suddenly do we have a Mudavadi who wants to behave like other ODM renegades who have lost self-respect and integrity? Why copy those who are so scared of abandoning the ODM even as they have formed their own parties? Isn’t it strange that over the weekend, William Ruto was happy to announce that he was still in ODM just like Gumo simply because for a change, Gumo supported Wamalwa’s presidency?
Like Ruto and company, what Musalia dreads most is the fear of losing all the positions he enjoys in ODM together with his parliamentary seat. He cannot fathom going for the presidency a naked emperor. It is the reason he must continue consulting widely even as time is running out.jerryokungu@gmail.com www.the-star.co.ke/opinions/jerry-okungu/73278-mudavadi-should-have-resigned-all-his-posts-
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Apr 30, 2012 4:58:47 GMT 3
My jaluo friends are going berserk! Good to see you worked up. Musalia wanted an even platform to vie for the ODM presidential nomination. He was a ODM member and thought he could stand for election in ODM. He was told, not in many words, that the ODM presidential nomination is reserved for the party leader, and that no amendment will be made to the constitution to allow him to contest it. The man, broken hearted by the rejection' left. He is yet to recover from the severe injury to feeling he felt. A decent civilised lot would have left him alone, now that he has made it clear that he is no longer in ODM. sadikDid the "broken hearted" Musalia only in the last few months realize that he wouldn't be the ODM presidential candidate? If so, he needs to fire himself and his advisers and with just cause. Useless! And has Musalia resigned his positions in ODM? I must have missed something. And while you're at portraying him as some kind of angel I'll be watching keenly to see who he teams up with. And I really hope he gets over that sore heart sooner rather than later:'( Kathure,Mudavadi, like others before him, has played his role in trying to make ODM what a national and democratic party should be and look like. But he was disappointed, the party is stuck in the old ways of doing things. He has said as much including his latest revelation that what we see on the outside, is not what is happening inside the ODM. It is a total dictatorship with decisions being made by two or three individuals with the blessings of the party leader in total disregard of what the rest of the membership wishes. The one or so months that Mudavadi has been on the campaign trail, has revealed to Kenyans a lot about this party that we may never have known. I do not know why you insist on ignoring this. So, before Mudavadi fires himself, he will need to help Kenyans fire all these wolves that have been masquerading as sheep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 7:17:19 GMT 3
sadikDid the "broken hearted" Musalia only in the last few months realize that he wouldn't be the ODM presidential candidate? If so, he needs to fire himself and his advisers and with just cause. Useless! And has Musalia resigned his positions in ODM? I must have missed something. And while you're at portraying him as some kind of angel I'll be watching keenly to see who he teams up with. And I really hope he gets over that sore heart sooner rather than later:'( Kathure,Mudavadi, like others before him, has played his role in trying to make ODM what a national and democratic party should be and look like. But he was disappointed, the party is stuck in the old ways of doing things. He has said as much including his latest revelation that what we see on the outside, is not what is happening inside the ODM. It is a total dictatorship with decisions being made by two or three individuals with the blessings of the party leader in total disregard of what the rest of the membership wishes. The one or so months that Mudavadi has been on the campaign trail, has revealed to Kenyans a lot about this party that we may never have known. I do not know why you insist on ignoring this. So, before Mudavadi fires himself, he will need to help Kenyans fire all these wolves that have been masquerading as sheep. mwalimumkuuIt's a bit late in the day for Mudavadi to have figured all that out. That display of incompetence is reason enough for him to fire not just every last one of his advisers but himself too. Firing himself just means he moves on to find another occupation for which he is better suited. Surely, as intelligent folks we should all have the ability to recognize our strengths and weaknesses. Given evidence, politics isn't Mudavadi's forte. I'm sure that he has a myriad of other talents. Let him pursue those.
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Post by chokoraa on May 1, 2012 14:36:30 GMT 3
well, after 'consulting widely' son of substone is close to making up his mind. the plan is to run SEPARATELY (never mind that both are still partyless) then somehow CONVERGE at the ballot and hopefully in the next government. ;Das for the other members of the G7 or is it now G8..... The political paths of the two Deputy Prime Ministers are set to merge, even as they make separate plans to get to State House.
Strategists working for Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Musalia Mudavadi want them to approach the General Election as a team, like they did a decade ago. But, unlike in 2002, when Mudavadi was Uhuru’s running mate on a Kanu ticket, this time the two will run against each other, with a likelihood of converging at the ballot and, hopefully, in the next government......Now that the salary and allowances for Aprilare in I do hope the son of Mudamba will actually Quit ODM and go wherever he wants to. He says he will do that tomorrow 2nd, hope it works. Chokoraa
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Post by mwalimumkuu on May 1, 2012 15:38:07 GMT 3
well, after 'consulting widely' son of substone is close to making up his mind. the plan is to run SEPARATELY (never mind that both are still partyless) then somehow CONVERGE at the ballot and hopefully in the next government. ;Das for the other members of the G7 or is it now G8..... The political paths of the two Deputy Prime Ministers are set to merge, even as they make separate plans to get to State House.
Strategists working for Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Musalia Mudavadi want them to approach the General Election as a team, like they did a decade ago. But, unlike in 2002, when Mudavadi was Uhuru’s running mate on a Kanu ticket, this time the two will run against each other, with a likelihood of converging at the ballot and, hopefully, in the next government......Now that the salary and allowances for Aprilare in I do hope the son of Mudamba will actually Quit ODM and go wherever he wants to. He says he will do that tomorrow 2nd, hope it works. Chokoraa Chokoraa, Mudavadi has thought long and hard about this thing, he knows as much as many other insiders know that, ODM is a sinking ship. Instead of staying in there and sink with it, those with some muscle like him, will jump ship and chat new paths. I am reliably informed that the RV remnants of ODM are beginning to rethink their positions in the party starting with Labosa and Kones, then either Koskei and his team or Bett and his team. Therefore the issue of allowances does not arise, but interest; where does one think that their bread is likely to have some butter in the next five years, that is what counts.
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Post by chokoraa on May 1, 2012 16:51:29 GMT 3
Mwalimu, OK - for mudavadi he has heard to be literally shown where the bread will be buttered tomorrow. History has it that the man has never had it all alone. I do not want to pre-empt the speech tomorrow but I expect the only mention of ODM tomorrow should be in the statement '' I hereby resign my positions as the vice-chairman of ODM, the MP for sabatia and subsequently the post of DPM and minister for local government''.
If this does not come out as clearly as I have stated it then I can assure you, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush. We will really know where the bread is actually buttered. If I was doing his speech for that supposedly BIG announcement I would put this statement first - so that anything MM says after that it is actually Mr Musalia Mudavadi standing on his two feet talking - not some stooge.
Quick quip:-- I will not talk about the Kipsigis leaders here but just look back again and silently answer this critical question about them:-
1 Who organized the Kipsigis leaders meeting(up this Friday) that WSR was plainly told ''he is not invited''?
Because of the way you look at things you may NOT remember this. Chox
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Post by bob on May 1, 2012 17:52:21 GMT 3
well, after 'consulting widely' son of substone is close to making up his mind. the plan is to run SEPARATELY (never mind that both are still partyless) then somehow CONVERGE at the ballot and hopefully in the next government. ;Das for the other members of the G7 or is it now G8..... The political paths of the two Deputy Prime Ministers are set to merge, even as they make separate plans to get to State House.
Strategists working for Mr Uhuru Kenyatta and Mr Musalia Mudavadi want them to approach the General Election as a team, like they did a decade ago. But, unlike in 2002, when Mudavadi was Uhuru’s running mate on a Kanu ticket, this time the two will run against each other, with a likelihood of converging at the ballot and, hopefully, in the next government......Now that the salary and allowances for Aprilare in I do hope the son of Mudamba will actually Quit ODM and go wherever he wants to. He says he will do that tomorrow 2nd, hope it works. Chokoraa Chokoraa, Mudavadi has thought long and hard about this thing, he knows as much as many other insiders know that, ODM is a sinking ship. Instead of staying in there and sink with it, those with some muscle like him, will jump ship and chat new paths. I am reliably informed that the RV remnants of ODM are beginning to rethink their positions in the party starting with Labosa and Kones, then either Koskei and his team or Bett and his team. Therefore the issue of allowances does not arise, but interest; where does one think that their bread is likely to have some butter in the next five years, that is what counts. Mwalimu... it is quite unfortunate that despite you having convinced yourself that ODM is dead & buried,you forget & reiterate again & again in nearly every posting you make. Which gives me the impression that ODM is the part of the moment & just can't help it but to think of it time & again. For me MM is simply greedy & lacks the spine to stand up & fight but choose to bolt seeking the easy way. He has even no shame to use the labour day platform to plead for crowds for his event tomorrow. If you are a leader it comes naturally not through baby sitting. I would not be surprised to see the suspects gracing the event .
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Post by adongo23456 on May 1, 2012 18:59:10 GMT 3
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Post by joblesscorner on May 1, 2012 19:04:19 GMT 3
Why does everyone wants to be a Politician in Kenya? why not the private sector?
FYI. President Kibaki has endorsed VP Kalonzo for President and Dr Alfred Mutua for Governor of Machakos county." ;D ;D ;D
Sonko and Waititu in Nairobi
Mwenyezi Mola Bariki Kenya
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Post by reporter911 on May 1, 2012 20:50:39 GMT 3
MORE INTERESTING COMMENTS FROM READERS:President Kibaki yesterday denied that he had endorsed Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka as his successor after a series of contradictory messages. Government spokesman Dr Alfred Mutua then sent a message to newsrooms stating, "FYI. President Kibaki has endorsed VP Kalonzo for President and Dr Alfred Mutua for Governor of Machakos county." Shortly afterwards director of the Presidential Press Service Isaiya Kabira denied that President Kibaki had endorsed anyone at the event.Kabira's response to a text message asking whether Kibaki had endorsed Kalonzo was an emphatic "NO!" Soon after Mutua called the Star to clarify that Kibaki had not endorsed Kalonzo but had endorsed him as Machakos county governor. "I have been informed that the President actually did not endorse the Vice President. So we need to clarify that. But he endorsed me," Mutua said Showing 9 comments omutsanis The man who wants open-ended democracy in ODM, is signing MOUs in private with invisible parties, to allow him be automatic presidential candidate. Godspeed MM! Reply 2 hours ago bouazizi kenya Who cares whether Kibaki endorses his own son for whatever seat! Kibaki is a political joke and any endorsement he does on anyone will work against them. Kalonzo you better stop hanging on others coats and be your own man, though your goose is cooked and not many Kenyans trust you, not even the ones in the church that you claim to belong. Its the high time you followed Kibaki into retirement, and if you dont do that then Kenyans will force you into it. Leaders like both of you do not deserve to lead Kenyans, due to your naked greed for the scarce resources that we have in our country. How would you have kept quiet while the government spent a whooping 300M for a house that you would have been the first occupant, and you cant even remember the poor congregants of the church you attend every sunday. And you Kibaki, what a shame to construct a house worth 500M using tax payers' money, knowing very well that you can honourably retire at Kanyange, Muthaiga, Mombasa or wherever you feel like. Don't you feel the pain of Kenyans who are dying of hunger under your watch? Don't you see how Kenyans are languishing in slums without basic facilities like toilets? Don't you think that such an unnecessary expense, will lead to negative effects on cost of living that has greatly risen under your watch? WHERE IS YOUR CONSCIENCE BWANA KIBAKI? And just incase you do not read our comments here at the star, may I request the NIS through your appointee Michael Gichangi,whoI am sure follow our comments, to inform you that Kenyans are seething with anger when we have to toil day and night to makes ends meet only for you and your government to so nonchalantly siphon money from public coffers into personal aggrandisement! 2 hours ago jdugna1960 Kibaki's tenure is the worst and he should not even try telling us who to vote for. Kalonzo is so incompetent to pull this country out of the mess he himself created after supporting a loser president to get vp post. 12 minutes ago jakairos Good luck watermelon! 2 hours ago Kenyan2 Mudavadi's PA Kibisu Kabatesi declined to say where his boss was headed. Yesterday, Kakamega ODM secretary Martin Andati dismissed Mudavadi's move as a “no-show at best” and “suicide at worst”. “There will definitely be a backlash for this man's indecisiveness. He is sending himself to political oblivion too early in his life,” said Andati. “He is being cheated that he will be a compromise candidate. A politician of his caliber should know that is a lie. There are no free things in Kenya, more so political power.” 2 hours ago omutsanis Cant stop laughing. ""FYI. President Kibaki has endorsed VP Kalonzo for President and Dr Alfred Mutua for Governor of Machakos county." And sonko will be senator? God save machakos. 3 hours ago polke I thought 1st of April was over. Like Reply 1 hour ago in reply to omutsanis vladimirovich If what the president said of the two is not endorsement in Kenyan parlance, then I don't know what is. Someone must have quickly told him it was a gaffe. Hence the retraction. remember the other statement on elections or something like that where wags say someone passed him a piece of written paper to refute what he had just said? What I find interesting is Dr Mutua's apparent overexietment at being "endorsed", sincerely, I always thought the man was more restrained than that. Reply 3 hour ago omutsanis President denial! ""It is your time now. I have worked with him for quite sometime now and know he is a capable leader. What are you waiting for now?". Who says I said what I just said? Bure tu! Karonjo, in Kibaki speak, you are being told to grow up, man up and stop chasing uhuruto allover Kenya.
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Post by tnk on May 1, 2012 22:38:06 GMT 3
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Post by adongo23456 on May 1, 2012 23:27:44 GMT 3
Hehehehehehe. That was initially Uhuru's plan B party and still is. For some reason Uhuru wants his own party on the side which he has now bought. I am sure UDFP will continue to be Uhuru's plan B party should all hell break loose with the ICC and Muthamaki realizes he can't run. Mudavadi will then be their plan B. Essentially Mudavadi has now officially been launched as an Uhuru project through UDFP if things don't work for Uhuru. In the real game the trouble is as soon as Uhuru is out of the picture all manner of new formations will emerge in his backyard and he will have no control over that. So having a Mudavadi plan B as some mpango wa kando will have its own problems. If Uhuru braves it out and goes with plan A of running despite the ICC quagmire, Mudavadi will be crashed in round 1 with everybody else and Uhuru will have to face Raila in the run-off. Those are the real contenders as we speak. As we speak Kalonzo by now knows he is NOT even plan B, C or D for Uhuru. Where does the poor man go? Where is Julia Ojiambo when you need her? Ruto seems to be floating somewhere. The only certain thing is that his so called presidential ambition is dead as a dodo. What happens after that nobody knows. I love this chess game. Effectively consider the G7 buried and we can now deal with each pawn on the chess board on their own. We are ready for game time.
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Post by tnk on May 2, 2012 0:33:20 GMT 3
Hehehehehehe. That was initially Uhuru's plan B party and still is. For some reason Uhuru wants his own party on the side which he has now bought. I am sure UDFP will continue to be Uhuru's plan B party should all hell break loose with the ICC and Muthamaki realizes he can't run. Mudavadi will then be their plan B. Essentially Mudavadi has now officially been launched as an Uhuru project through UDFP if things don't work for Uhuru. In the real game the trouble is as soon as Uhuru is out of the picture all manner of new formations will emerge in his backyard and he will have no control over that. So having a Mudavadi plan B as some mpango wa kando will have its own problems. If Uhuru braves it out and goes with plan A of running despite the ICC quagmire, Mudavadi will be crashed in round 1 with everybody else and Uhuru will have to face Raila in the run-off. Those are the real contenders as we speak. As we speak Kalonzo by now knows he is NOT even plan B, C or D for Uhuru. Where does the poor man go? Where is Julia Ojiambo when you need her? Ruto seems to be floating somewhere. The only certain thing is that his so called presidential ambition is dead as a dodo. What happens after that nobody knows. I love this chess game. Effectively consider the G7 buried and we can now deal with each pawn on the chess board on their own. We are ready for game time. what am looking forward to is when these guys go for open competition in these parties and they get kicked to 2nd position that will be quite interesting. e,g mudavadi, i think he and abdikadir stand exactly the same chance for national leadership, what happens if the party chooses abdikdir and mudavadi is again no.2 or even worse, where does MM go thereafter? if its true this is where MM is headed and abdikadir is in that party, am buying popcorn and coke for everyone in the house.
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