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Post by mbuta on Jul 2, 2012 17:53:31 GMT 3
CJ MUTUNGA turns down invitation to launch Miguna's new book. Says he cannot launch a book he has neither seen nor read.
From Nation...BREAKING: CJ MUTUNGA turns down invitation to launch Miguna'
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Post by amadain on Jul 2, 2012 19:47:04 GMT 3
Says he cannot launch a book he has neither seen nor read. Makes sense to me. |
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 2, 2012 20:01:58 GMT 3
The Standard reported one thing. The Daily Nation is supposedly reporting one thing. (I haven't actually seen anything on the DN's webpages.) And Kenyan papers are Kenyan papers.
What many people would like to see is a solid statement from Mutunga himself. Many people have been waiting for a confirmation of the Standard report; they are now waiting for a confirmation of the Nation one.
What a circus. Miguna could have quietly sent his invitation to Mutunga. Mutunga could have reflected on it, taking advice if necessary, then made a decision. All this publicity, with different papers giving different stories, is unhelpful .... although obviously not to Miguna. But even if Mutunga ultimately does not attend---and I will believe that report when I read a statement from him---his involvement in all this and the way it has happened is unfortunate.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 2, 2012 20:58:18 GMT 3
Well, he has seen the light in this one, albeit after massive condemnation by Jukwaaists amongst others.
otishotish as you wait for his full statement, the one I really want to catch is what he, Mutunga, thought he was doing in his midnight consultations with Githu, which saw the latter interpret the meeting as an okay on the rape of the constitution conducted recently by the famous MPigs. --Now all being rescinded. ;D
let me still keep it at your 'funny guy' definition.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 2, 2012 21:41:27 GMT 3
I think that those in Jukwaa who think this is great news should throw a big party to celebrate-ama?
Onyango Oloo
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Post by OtishOtish on Jul 2, 2012 21:56:04 GMT 3
I think that those in Jukwaa who think this is great news should throw a big party to celebrate-ama? Onyango OlooHow about a side-party at the Jukwaa Reunion? |
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Post by patriotism101 on Jul 2, 2012 22:13:56 GMT 3
I think that those in Jukwaa who think this is great news should throw a big party to celebrate-ama? Onyango OlooInteresting coming from OO. I thought you were only a messenger ;D Either way, this is a wise decision from the CJ. |
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Post by man on Jul 3, 2012 3:17:42 GMT 3
I think that those in Jukwaa who think this is great news should throw a big party to celebrate-ama? Onyango OlooI'm popping my champagne right now. |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 3, 2012 10:15:43 GMT 3
Interesting coming from OO. I thought you were only a messenger ;D Either way, this is a wise decision from the CJ. "Messenger"  ! I commented extensively on this issue, or did you somehow miss my contribution on this topic. Onyango Oloo |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 3, 2012 10:16:59 GMT 3
[ How about a side-party at the Jukwaa Reunion? Sure. And when was that scheduled again? Onyango Oloo |
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Post by mbuta on Jul 3, 2012 18:41:07 GMT 3
I think that those in Jukwaa who think this is great news should throw a big party to celebrate-ama? Onyango OlooNot so fast. We are still waiting for Larry King to interview the circus that was Hellon-Ester-Timberlake before we move on to this one...and yes, I am equating Miguna Miguna's tantrums to the shock comedy that was Finger of God... There is never a dull moment in Kenyan politics... |
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Post by falafulani on Jul 5, 2012 19:31:07 GMT 3
The problem with Kenyans(Africans) is we dont want to recognizw mental illness as a condition which needs proper attention and treatment. The Esther Arunga/Hellon/Finger of God situation was dismissed as a joke yet these were genuinly sick Kenyans deserving of MEDICAL attention, just as one with Malaria or Meningitis would. Dear Lord, going by the excerpts of Miguna's book circulating on the internet, doensnt this man need urgent help?? bit.ly/N8QLU9 |
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Post by johns on Jul 5, 2012 21:27:51 GMT 3
The problem with Kenyans(Africans) is we dont want to recognizw mental illness as a condition which needs proper attention and treatment. The Esther Arunga/Hellon/Finger of God situation was dismissed as a joke yet these were genuinly sick Kenyans deserving of MEDICAL attention, just as one with Malaria or Meningitis would. Dear Lord, going by the excerpts of Miguna's book circulating on the internet, doensnt this man need urgent help?? bit.ly/N8QLU9, I am stunned that such an episode (the crying part) is considered a secret worth revealing in a book. Come to think about it, didnt Miguna say that people were stunned that Odinga could cry like that? Does it not mean then, that Raila and miguna were not alone in that crying room? Then how does it occur to miguna that this was a secret that he alone feel qualified to reveal to kenyans whereas the other conspirators present in that room did not make anything out of it? I think the premise for writing this book was wrong from the start and i am afraid the pages of the book might end up being used for toiletry purposes given what the standard newspaper carry as a leading excerpt from the book. |
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Post by falafulani on Jul 5, 2012 22:30:59 GMT 3
Johns,
I actually meant that Miguna is a genuinly sick man who needs an urgent review by a competent psychiatrist.
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Post by b6k on Jul 6, 2012 3:20:43 GMT 3
Raila wept....  |
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Post by KOLONEL BRISK on Jul 6, 2012 3:39:16 GMT 3
Raila wept.... Crying is no indication that you are weak, since birth it is a confirmation that you are ALIVE.Raila Cried.His soul would have had no Rainbow if his eyes had no TEARS |
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Post by furaha on Jul 6, 2012 4:22:42 GMT 3
Raila wept.... It shows a human side. After months and months of dealing with uncertainty and a political adversary who is out to make mince-meat of you, is it surprising that at some point a person breaks down and shows that he is only human? And remember that that adversary was the very same person who enjoyed the privilege of high office during the time that Odinga was imprisoned? What does it do to a man? In moments of tiredness and weakness does that adversary perhaps take on the identity of his jailer? I have no problem with tears and emotions. And i certainly prefer them to the ruthlessness and callousness of others. |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jul 6, 2012 9:42:23 GMT 3
Watch out for my upcoming digital essay on Miguna, Mutunga and memory.
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Post by merlin on Jul 6, 2012 10:22:33 GMT 3
WindmillsEverything Miguna Miguna touches turns into windmills to fight with and conquer. That book has been written in 1605 about an ingenious and mostly rational Gentleman of sound reason, while reading books of chivalry in excess has profound effect on him, leading to the distortion of his perception of reality and his mental faculties.
And sure enough he has a helper in the name of Sancho Panza who frequently deals with his master’s rhetorical orations.
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Post by mzee on Jul 6, 2012 10:35:02 GMT 3
The problem with Kenyans(Africans) is we dont want to recognizw mental illness as a condition which needs proper attention and treatment. The Esther Arunga/Hellon/Finger of God situation was dismissed as a joke yet these were genuinly sick Kenyans deserving of MEDICAL attention, just as one with Malaria or Meningitis would. Dear Lord, going by the excerpts of Miguna's book circulating on the internet, doensnt this man need urgent help?? bit.ly/N8QLU9, I am stunned that such an episode (the crying part) is considered a secret worth revealing in a book. Come to think about it, didnt Miguna say that people were stunned that Odinga could cry like that? Does it not mean then, that Raila and miguna were not alone in that crying room? Then how does it occur to miguna that this was a secret that he alone feel qualified to reveal to kenyans whereas the other conspirators present in that room did not make anything out of it? I think the premise for writing this book was wrong from the start and i am afraid the pages of the book might end up being used for toiletry purposes given what the standard newspaper carry as a leading excerpt from the book. You are right Johns. By the way, this is not the first time Raila has cried in front of other people. I remember he shed a tear when Kalonzo, Ruto and co insisted that he could not lead ODM because he was a Luo. This man cried too www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/11/ken-livingstone-tears-london-mayoral-electionThis woman does it This man also ! Even this lady The he-man Vladimir Puttin crying like a baby Crying is a show of strength not weakness as some you would want to make us a believe. |
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Post by b6k on Jul 6, 2012 16:23:29 GMT 3
Mzee et al. Nowhere have I said Raila's weeping is a sign of weakness. I borrowed the biblical style from the shortest verse in the good book to keep it brief & allow readers to fill in the blanks.
I actually agree with Furaha that this "scandal" could work in Raila's favour. It does paint him as more human than the bogeyman (super human entity) he's alleged to be. Also not wanting to have further dealings with the crafty Kibaki isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wouldn't you object to being cast into a den of thieves? If there was video footage of this I would put it out there for the world to see just how passionate Raila is for the top job.
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Post by mzee on Jul 6, 2012 16:30:00 GMT 3
B6k,,
I agree with you
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Post by tnk on Jul 6, 2012 18:08:04 GMT 3
Mzee et al. Nowhere have I said Raila's weeping is a sign of weakness. I borrowed the biblical style from the shortest verse in the good book to keep it brief & allow readers to fill in the blanks. I actually agree with Furaha that this "scandal" could work in Raila's favour. It does paint him as more human than the bogeyman (super human entity) he's alleged to be. Also not wanting to have further dealings with the crafty Kibaki isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wouldn't you object to being cast into a den of thieves? If there was video footage of this I would put it out there for the world to see just how passionate Raila is for the top job. on my part i think this is unfortunate the media have taken one paragraph out of a 500 page book. obviously they still do not have a copy of the book and are recycling material previously provided by miguna or the publishers and here we are with dozens of comments. comeon guys dont be played by the media, lets get someone who actually has a copy of the book doing an intelligent analysis otherwise its like a cruel dog master throwing one bone at a time to a pack of hungry dogs (with apologies) |
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Post by moesha on Jul 6, 2012 19:32:42 GMT 3
CJ MUTUNGA turns down invitation to launch Miguna's new book. Says he cannot launch a book he has neither seen nor read. From Nation...BREAKING: CJ MUTUNGA turns down invitation to launch Miguna' I fully support. That was a good decision from the CJ. It is unfortunate that the CJ who I believe has a lot on his plate at this very moment given everything else going on in the country, should even be in this situation in the first place; brought about by his "friend." May be we need to be crying a little more as a country. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jul 6, 2012 19:36:06 GMT 3
Mzee et al. Nowhere have I said Raila's weeping is a sign of weakness. I borrowed the biblical style from the shortest verse in the good book to keep it brief & allow readers to fill in the blanks. I actually agree with Furaha that this "scandal" could work in Raila's favour. It does paint him as more human than the bogeyman (super human entity) he's alleged to be. Also not wanting to have further dealings with the crafty Kibaki isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wouldn't you object to being cast into a den of thieves? If there was video footage of this I would put it out there for the world to see just how passionate Raila is for the top job. on my part i think this is unfortunate the media have taken one paragraph out of a 500 page book. obviously they still do not have a copy of the book and are recycling material previously provided by miguna or the publishers and here we are with dozens of comments. comeon guys dont be played by the media, lets get someone who actually has a copy of the book doing an intelligent analysis otherwise its like a cruel dog master throwing one bone at a time to a pack of hungry dogs (with apologies) I totally agree with you TNK. I highly suspect that it is a Raila fellow in the Standard who is selling this line with a very clear and predictable intention. |
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