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Post by mangai on Jan 20, 2013 21:04:20 GMT 3
Kibera Luo folk are matching to Orange house. Those in Siaya have lit the streets. Raila himself is shell shocked and shut in the castle. Not a word from him. YES. No matter how you look at it, it’s an anti-Raila revolution. One that will be talked of for years to come. And rightly, one started by MIGUNA MIGUNA!!!! I think you are getting over excited. The person responsible for the elections is Franklin Bett and his elections board. If Raila was to intervene I am sure there are those who will spare no opportunity to portray him as interfering with the ODM nomination process. I thought ODM, as well as the other parties, had mechanisms of resolving any elections disputes that arise. Why should some people resort to riots and violence instead of following the laid down party regulations? For instance, Hon. Bett had clearly pointed that nomination certificates will be issued at regional level and in fact went ahead to advise the nominees not to waste time camping at Orange House. What did we see today, people rioting and destroying property at the ODM headquarters.
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 20, 2013 21:07:44 GMT 3
While I have so far viewed the CORD happenings as mild entertainment, things have now gone too far. The burning of property is a criminal offence that should be denounced by all.
The proper way to handle this thing would have been to quickly nip it in the bud, with clear and transparent action from the leader. The longer it is allowed to go on, the worse things will get. But with the type of people Raila has advising him ....
REFORM AND DEMOCRACY!
Coming soon to a voting station near you.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 21:16:42 GMT 3
While I have so far viewed the CORD happenings as mild entertainment, things have now gone too far. The burning of property is a criminal offence that should be denounced by all. The proper way to handle this thing would have been to quickly nip it in the bud, with clear and transparent action from the leader. The longer it is allowed to go on, the worse things will get. But with the type of people Raila has advising him .... REFORM AND DEMOCRACY! Coming soon to a voting station near you. One wonders which paid thugs are involved in this saga? Let people on the ground in Nyanza look very closely, they might be surprised to find who is behind all the chao's ! the statement " Nyanza revolts against Raila" was coined for a reason before the Mayhem started if I was ODM I would look deeper than a casual eye.. looks to me like the Arab Spring tactic's are being used here.. Enemies shipped in to create havoc then make claims that there is a revolt against Raila!! something smells rotten in Nyanza and ODM should look very closely starting from ODOUL !! check all phone records of some people.. something tells me there is more than meets the eyes in Nyanza Chao"s.. ti was planned very well.. anyone can pay thugs to disrupt anything in Kenya.
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Post by umoja on Jan 20, 2013 21:57:00 GMT 3
The ODM National Elections Board has no choice but to respect the will of voters otherwise the anti-Raila protest will become a reality. I was on the ground in Siaya County in Nov & Dec 2012. My sense of what's currently going on was shaped by listening to those in the service industry: boda boda operators, matatu touts, market vendors, hotel staff etc.
When in Siaya, there was unanimity that Raila will get solid votes for President from Luo Nyanza region. With the understanding that people wanted a freehand to choose leaders in the other positions. For example Orengo was a shoo-in from the beginning for Siaya Senator but would have been rejected as area MP.
According to this Boda Boda chap from Gem in the company of his colleagues" In Siaya County, we are giving the Presidency to Bondo, Governor to Alego, Senator to Ugenya and Women's Rep to Gem. He also said Midiwo needs to be taught a lesson due to his arrogance.
What happens in Siaya is no different in other communities where clan, location politics need delicate balancing. In which case, Oburu can be right that he makes his own decisions and he need not seek Raila's permission to seek elective politics. He forgets though that in a "negotiated democracy" they were expected to produce one candidate from the Odinga family for the top positions. Also, if you talk to people in the service industry Kisumu, Ruth Odinga was always a non-starter not because she is an Odinga but she does not fit neatly in the Kisumu (Urban & Rural) clan politics.
Hizi zote about anti-Odinga wave in the media and Uduol being a mole from ODM apologists ni "porojo" from people knowingly or without a clue pushing propaganda lines.
Unfortunately for Oburu Oginga, Ruth Odinga, and Jakoyo Midiwo being a relative to Raila Odinga is not a crime but a perception that they are being imposed on Luo Nyanza electorate will backfire against Raila Presidency. Raila may have to strategise how to be PORK without solid backing from Luo Nyanza if any of his three relatives get certificates from Orange House.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 22:06:48 GMT 3
The ODM National Elections Board has no choice but to respect the will of voters otherwise the anti-Raila protest will become a reality. I was on the ground in Siaya County in Nov & Dec 2012. My sense of what's currently going on was shaped by listening to those in the service industry: boda boda operators, matatu touts, market vendors, hotel staff etc. When in Siaya, there was unanimity that Raila will get solid votes for President from Luo Nyanza region. With the understanding that people wanted a freehand to choose leaders in the other positions. For example Orengo was a shoo-in from the beginning for Siaya County Governor but would have been rejected as area MP. According to this Boda Boda chap from Gem in the company of his colleagues" In Siaya County, we are giving the Presidency to Bondo, Governor to Alego, Senator to Ugenya and Women's Rep to Gem. He also said Midiwo needs to be taught a lesson due to his arrogance. What happens in Siaya is no different in other communities where clan, location politics need delicate balancing. In which case, Oburu can be right that he makes his own decisions and he need not seek Raila's permission to seek elective politics. He forgets though that in a "negotiated democracy" they were expected to produce one candidate from the Odinga family for the top positions. Also, if you talk to people in the service industry Kisumu, Ruth Odinga was always a non-starter not because she is an Odinga but she does not fit neatly in the Kisumu (Urban & Rural) clan politics. Hizi zote about anti-Odinga wave in the media and Uduol being a mole from ODM apologists ni "porojo" from people knowingly or without a clue pushing propaganda lines. Unfortunately for Oburu Oginga, Ruth Odinga, and Jakoyo Midiwo being a relative to Raila Odinga is not a crime but a perception that they are being imposed on Luo Nyanza electorate will backfire against Raila Presidency. Raila may have to strategise how to be PORK without solid backing from Luo Nyanza if any of his three relatives get certificates from Orange House. Umoja2013. Usual Propganda and nonsense.. desperation is a bad thing, try taking a chill blank.. I now do believe the rumours on the ground that thugs hired to create havoc in Nyanza must be true, why else should the the Standard and daily nation and likes of some maniac's here busy posting a Revolt against Raila in Nyanze? in a synchronized fashion????what a joke.. I guess Oduol being a Mole might just be true too.. It is easy to hire thugs to disrupt elections ... Meanwhile central province has revolts against TNA in many counties including Nyeri? does that mean Central province aspirants who were not happy the way elections were carried out by "Uhuru "TNA" are revolting against UHURU!! .. or those who were not happy with the way URP handled elections in Rift Valley where a voter was KILLED and others hurt are revolting against Ruto?Take your nonsensical propaganda elsewhere like mashada Blog or those other blogs that are none to engage in lies and propaganda.. bure kabisa!
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Post by umoja on Jan 20, 2013 22:20:56 GMT 3
Reporter911,
You sound like an "Emotional Basket case". In which case I will ignore you and your ilk from now on.
Events between now and March elections will determine what's going on and not your juvenile outbursts. On the media, they are doing what they are paid to do. Cover what sells newspapers the most and Raila and Riots in Kenya is the flavour of the week for now. You are welcome to stick to your conspiracy theories as the world passes you by. By the way the youth told me they will follow Oduol to which ever party he wants and vote for him there. Unless he is time barred. Umoja 2013.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 22:33:19 GMT 3
reporter911, You have become a heckler. This piece by Umoja is well-written, considered and balanced. Propaganda and nonsense you say? I pity you now. Stop for a moment and think. And by the way, your repetitive naming of Oduol, the peoples choice for Siaya governor, as a TNA-mole, is now below decorum and passes into the realm of defamation, character assassination and contempt for civility. If you can not think, try common sense. The ODM National Elections Board has no choice but to respect the will of voters otherwise the anti-Raila protest will become a reality. I was on the ground in Siaya County in Nov & Dec 2012. My sense of what's currently going on was shaped by listening to those in the service industry: boda boda operators, matatu touts, market vendors, hotel staff etc. When in Siaya, there was unanimity that Raila will get solid votes for President from Luo Nyanza region. With the understanding that people wanted a freehand to choose leaders in the other positions. For example Orengo was a shoo-in from the beginning for Siaya County Governor but would have been rejected as area MP. According to this Boda Boda chap from Gem in the company of his colleagues" In Siaya County, we are giving the Presidency to Bondo, Governor to Alego, Senator to Ugenya and Women's Rep to Gem. He also said Midiwo needs to be taught a lesson due to his arrogance. What happens in Siaya is no different in other communities where clan, location politics need delicate balancing. In which case, Oburu can be right that he makes his own decisions and he need not seek Raila's permission to seek elective politics. He forgets though that in a "negotiated democracy" they were expected to produce one candidate from the Odinga family for the top positions. Also, if you talk to people in the service industry Kisumu, Ruth Odinga was always a non-starter not because she is an Odinga but she does not fit neatly in the Kisumu (Urban & Rural) clan politics. Hizi zote about anti-Odinga wave in the media and Uduol being a mole from ODM apologists ni "porojo" from people knowingly or without a clue pushing propaganda lines. Unfortunately for Oburu Oginga, Ruth Odinga, and Jakoyo Midiwo being a relative to Raila Odinga is not a crime but a perception that they are being imposed on Luo Nyanza electorate will backfire against Raila Presidency. Raila may have to strategise how to be PORK without solid backing from Luo Nyanza if any of his three relatives get certificates from Orange House. Umoja2013. Usual Propganda and nonsense.. desperation is a bad thing, try taking a chill blank.. I now do believe the rumours on the ground that thugs hired to create havoc in Nyanza must be true, why else should the the Standard and daily nation and likes of some maniac's here busy posting a Revolt against Raila in Nyanze? in a synchronized fashion????what a joke.. I guess Oduol being a Mole might just be true too.. It is easy to hire thugs to disrupt elections ... Meanwhile central province has revolts against TNA in many counties including Nyeri? does that mean Central province aspirants who were not happy the way elections were carried out by "Uhuru "TNA" are revolting against UHURU!! .. or those who were not happy with the way URP handled elections in Rift Valley where a voter was KILLED and others hurt are revolting against Ruto?Take your nonsensical propaganda elsewhere like mashada Blog or those other blogs that are none to engage in lies and propaganda.. bure kabisa!
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Post by abdulmote on Jan 20, 2013 22:35:03 GMT 3
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 22:42:09 GMT 3
Reporter911, You sound like an "Emotional Basket case". In which case I will ignore you and your ilk from now on. Events between now and March elections will determine what's going on and not your juvenile outbursts. On the media, they are doing what they are paid to do. Cover what sells newspapers the most and Raila and Riots in Kenya is the flavour of the week for now. You are welcome to stick to your conspiracy theories as the world passes you by. By the way the youth told me they will follow Oduol to which ever party he wants and vote for him there. Unless he is time barred. Umoja 2013. Maniac's such as yourself busted for posting propaganda normally run away.. answer the questions: 1. Central province mayhem and rigging accusations at polling station, aspirants supporters fighting each other? does that mean they are revolting against Uhuru in central province?
2. Rift Valley again aspirants claims of rigged votes in favor of others, fighting between aspirants supporters and death of a voter occurs, some voters hospitalized.. does this mean that Rift Valley was revolting against Ruto?Do the people below look happy smiling to you? cheering? I guess you can't bring yourself to post about your own central province backyard revolts!! Kibaki’s former aide threatens to decamp as Othaya race heats upelections.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/1669196/highRes/450413/-/maxw/600/-/1mik76z/-/DNOTHAYANOMINATIONS1801.gif[/img] Don't come here trying to push your propaganda nonsense.. check on facts all over the country on happenings in all party primaries. instead of following biased newspapers like the Standard and the daily nation, now The Star has joined the team of Raila/ODM bushing, but this time it will not be ignored by Kenyans,, In 2007 when these same newspapers used propaganda in support of PNU party .. the Internet and Ireporter were not very active to counter.. 2013 Kenyans are wake.. and won't allow media houses and ignorant clueless bloggers such as yourself to peddle propaganda and lies.. ;D ivyu tu! keep bring them lies.. we are here ready to debunk them.. Using insults won't stop us from face off with you on your poorly orchestrated propaganda! ;D ;D
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 22:48:01 GMT 3
Abdul, that is the K enya-post whose reporting should not always be taken at face value. To transfer Oduol to Kisumu would set Kisumu ablaze, as in adding insult to injury, and oil to fire, because the Kisumu people have their own preferences for governor, and because that is still in dispute too, they would definitely not accept a parachuted 'compensation' from Siaya, however good. It would be a disaster in public relations. Making the nomination process useless to the core. A travesty of the Democratic process! that is what I think. A sensational report, but a misfit. I dont take it serious.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 22:51:35 GMT 3
Abdul, that is the K enya-post whose reporting should not always be taken at face value. To transfer Oduol to Kisumu would set Kisumu ablaze, as in adding insult to injury, and oil to fire, because the Kisumu people have their own preferences for governor, and because that is still in dispute too, they would definitely not accept a parachuted 'compensation' from Siaya, however good. It would be a disaster in public relations. Making the nomination process useless to the core. A travesty of the Democratic process! that is what I think. A sensational report, but a misfit. I dont take it serious. On this one I agree with part not all your analysis.. but I would prefer you give us also and update on yours truly presidential Candidate Martha Karua.. she seems to be missing in action? who is a running mate? and how many counties did her party hold their primaries? or was it direct nominations??
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Post by umoja on Jan 20, 2013 22:56:44 GMT 3
Abdulmote, I saw the piece you refer to on Oduol but the text refers to Governor of Kisumu and not Siaya. I assumed it was a typo and therefore waiting for the final list of cleared condidates from ODM - NEB.
Jakaswanga, we are on the same wavelength regarding some characters in this forum. As a registered voter in Siaya county, I will vote based on who can assist develop the area and not on personalities or party affiliation. They are welcome to cast their vote to a candidate of their choice, if they bothered to register.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 22:58:40 GMT 3
reporter911, You have become a heckler. This piece by Umoja is well-written, considered and balanced. Propaganda and nonsense you say? I pity you now. Stop for a moment and think. And by the way, your repetitive naming of Oduol, the peoples choice for Siaya governor, as a TNA-mole, is now below decorum and passes into the realm of defamation, character assassination and contempt for civility. If you can not think, try common sense. Usual Propganda and nonsense.. desperation is a bad thing, try taking a chill blank.. I now do believe the rumours on the ground that thugs hired to create havoc in Nyanza must be true, why else should the the Standard and daily nation and likes of some maniac's here busy posting a Revolt against Raila in Nyanze? in a synchronized fashion????what a joke.. I guess Oduol being a Mole might just be true too.. It is easy to hire thugs to disrupt elections ... Meanwhile central province has revolts against TNA in many counties including Nyeri? does that mean Central province aspirants who were not happy the way elections were carried out by "Uhuru "TNA" are revolting against UHURU!! .. or those who were not happy with the way URP handled elections in Rift Valley where a voter was KILLED and others hurt are revolting against Ruto?Take your nonsensical propaganda elsewhere like mashada Blog or those other blogs that are none to engage in lies and propaganda.. bure kabisa! Jakaswanga... cheerleaders on Jukwaa are so pathetic, i guess you have become one.. call me a heckler or what you want the facts are umoja is peddling lies and propaganda, why not report on what is happening "TNT and URP and compare? are those disgruntled aspirants revolting against Uhuru or Ruto? and what is the difference between them and those in Nyanza?
Jakaswanga I think you lived in Uganda & Rwanda for too long.( as you have claimed in your previous blogs) . those are countries that propaganda in support of government is peddled very easily.. stop trying to mirror it! if you want to be a cheerleader for Umoja do so but stop the insults, and if you want to go that route.. I have insults packed that I can dish out fair and square..
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 23:00:04 GMT 3
Abdul, that is the K enya-post whose reporting should not always be taken at face value. To transfer Oduol to Kisumu would set Kisumu ablaze, as in adding insult to injury, and oil to fire, because the Kisumu people have their own preferences for governor, and because that is still in dispute too, they would definitely not accept a parachuted 'compensation' from Siaya, however good. It would be a disaster in public relations. Making the nomination process useless to the core. A travesty of the Democratic process! that is what I think. A sensational report, but a misfit. I dont take it serious. On this one I agree with your analysis.. but I would prefer you give us also and update on yours truly presidential Candidate Martha Karua.. she seems to be missing in action? who is a running mate? and how many counties did her party hold their primaries? or was it direct nominations?? They have been paying me to do some stuff on Mali that kept me busy and off Apondi's tail. Stuff like her running mate occurs to me to be things which will be splashed on the daily papers, which you yourself is competently capable of ever copy-pasting! But I will find out! jUST FOR YOU!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 23:07:44 GMT 3
On this one I agree with your analysis.. but I would prefer you give us also and update on yours truly presidential Candidate Martha Karua.. she seems to be missing in action? who is a running mate? and how many counties did her party hold their primaries? or was it direct nominations?? They have been paying me to do some stuff on Mali that kept me busy and off Apondi's tail. Stuff like her running mate occurs to me to be things which will be splashed on the daily papers, which you yourself is competently capable of ever copy-pasting! But I will find out! jUST FOR YOU! I believe most members here read & follow world news no need to explain your busy schedule.. As for Martha Karua, I'm actually surprised that you have kept on what is happening with her campaign and how she is doing e.t.c and instead you seem to have joined the Riala/ODM bashing team.. one might conclude that you are actually a Uhuruto/jubilee secretive supporter by reading your posts.. Karua seems to be just a front for you to hide your true intentions.. doesn't add up when one has a presidential candidate who they support but yet does nothing to promote or even discuss about the aspirant but instead engage in bashing other presidential aspirant/ party.. Time will tell.. March 4th is around the corner.. ;D
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 23:08:53 GMT 3
[ Jakaswanga... cheerleaders on Jukwaa are so pathetic, i guess you have become one.. call me a heckler or what you want the facts are umoja is peddling lies and propaganda, why not report on what is happening "TNT and URP and compare? are those disgruntled aspirants revolting against Uhuru or Ruto? and what is the difference between them and those in Nyanza?
Jakaswanga I think you lived in Uganda & Rwanda for too long.( as you have claimed in your previous blogs) . those are countries that propaganda in support of government is peddled very easily.. stop trying to mirror it! if you want to be a cheerleader for Umoja do so but stop the insults, and if you want to go that route.. I have insults packed that I can dish out fair and square.. Go line by line on what Umoja wrote, and dispute his logic so we see what is nonsense in it. If you can not do that, you are forced into a blanket dismissal which is baseless, unreasoned and irrelevant. Please have the patience to read and think what somebody says. Ah Uganda Kampala! it was always nearer Kisumu than Nairobi is to Kisumu! funny eh! I will always cheer careful thinking and a well presented argument. The guy Umoja did that, and I feel no shame to ask you to shake your butt at it! I will heartily join you! ;D
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 23:15:31 GMT 3
[ I believe most members here read & follow world news no need to explain your busy schedule.. As for Martha Karua, I'm actually surprised that you have kept on what is happening with her campaign and how she is doing e.t.c and instead you seem to have joined the Riala/ODM bashing team.. one might conclude that you are actually a Uhuruto/jubilee secretive supporter by reading your posts.. Karua seems to be just a front for you to hide your true intentions.. doesn't add up when one has a presidential candidate who they support but yet does nothing to promote or even discuss about the aspirant but instead engage in bashing other presidential aspirant/ party.. Time will tell.. March 4th is around the corner.. ;D It will be news to you that I come from Nyanza and all my family is ODM-Raila. Friends I went to school with in Siaya, some are running for office ---in ODM. So in my private life I discuss ODM everyday. Even fund-raise for some candidates out of school and family loyalty! --But you wouldn't understand would you? I give a critical assessment of Apondi, and think out her historical options. That is good enough for me. I am not a party groupie like you!
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 23:25:36 GMT 3
[ Jakaswanga... cheerleaders on Jukwaa are so pathetic, i guess you have become one.. call me a heckler or what you want the facts are umoja is peddling lies and propaganda, why not report on what is happening "TNT and URP and compare? are those disgruntled aspirants revolting against Uhuru or Ruto? and what is the difference between them and those in Nyanza?
Jakaswanga I think you lived in Uganda & Rwanda for too long.( as you have claimed in your previous blogs) . those are countries that propaganda in support of government is peddled very easily.. stop trying to mirror it! if you want to be a cheerleader for Umoja do so but stop the insults, and if you want to go that route.. I have insults packed that I can dish out fair and square.. Go line by line on what Umoja wrote, and dispute his logic so we see what is nonsense in it. If you can not do that, you are forced into a blanket dismissal which is baseless, unreasoned and irrelevant. Please have the patience to read and think what somebody says. Ah Uganda Kampala! it was always nearer Kisumu than Nairobi is to Kisumu! funny eh! I will always cheer careful thinking and a well presented argument. The guy Umoja did that, and I feel no shame to ask you to shake your butt at it! I will heartily join you! ;D Don't have to.. Let Umoja answer on the Central province &n Rift Valley skirmishes & fights among aspirants supporter in Uhuru "TNA" & URP- Ruto Were they revolting against Uhuru & Ruto? what say Umoja? and if not why is it any different when it happens in Nyanza? when this happens in "TNA" & "URP" UHURUTO'S PARTIES they are called fights and skirmishes but when it happens in Nyanza it is called a Revolt against Raila! see how propaganda rear's it's head without shame! bure kabisa!
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Post by umoja on Jan 20, 2013 23:27:12 GMT 3
Jakaswanga. I am sure of one thing, Raila Odinga also knows that what I heard in Nyanza is true because he gets security intelligence briefings.
The solid commitment to his Presidency by Luo Nyanza electorate was also true in 2007 when people asked for a free hand to elect MP's of their choice. Raila did listen except in a few cases such as saving Orengo from Mwanga in Ugenya. So those talking about propaganda and cheer leading should check facts from ODM leadership.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 23:35:13 GMT 3
[ I believe most members here read & follow world news no need to explain your busy schedule.. As for Martha Karua, I'm actually surprised that you have kept on what is happening with her campaign and how she is doing e.t.c and instead you seem to have joined the Riala/ODM bashing team.. one might conclude that you are actually a Uhuruto/jubilee secretive supporter by reading your posts.. Karua seems to be just a front for you to hide your true intentions.. doesn't add up when one has a presidential candidate who they support but yet does nothing to promote or even discuss about the aspirant but instead engage in bashing other presidential aspirant/ party.. Time will tell.. March 4th is around the corner.. ;D It will be news to you that I come from Nyanza and all my family is ODM-Raila. Friends I went to school with in Siaya, some are running for office ---in ODM. So in my private life I discuss ODM everyday. Even fund-raise for some candidates out of school and family loyalty! --But you wouldn't understand would you? I give a critical assessment of Apondi, and think out her historical options. That is good enough for me. I am not a party groupie like you! Very weird claims and yet you support former PNU/KARUA? now NARC_K I guess those foolish enough to believe your luo claim can do so.. hey there are many Luo's from uganda who also claim they are from Kenya ama? Call me a groupies or whatever insults you want to through at me.. you on the other hand have no musimamo? you go with the wind? Having read your post on Uganda and Rwanda? your involvement and work in those two countries.. one can't be surprised on where your political leaning are centered... Martha Karua former PNU/ now Narc-K = central province.. Poker game ain't working Mr. ... I'm on stand by waiting for more Raila bashing from you and your groupies from central province
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 23:35:50 GMT 3
[t why is it any different when it happens in Nyanza? when this happens in "TNA" & "URP" UHURUTO'S PARTIES they are called fights and skirmishes but when it happens in Nyanza it is called a Revolt against Raila! see how propaganda rear's it's head without shame! bure kabisa! You have forgotten your own boastful postings about who the next president is? complete with presidential photo? well, I guess the home turf happenings of the next PORK has news value. And good news-- Umoja got the analysis right about the newspaper business which you missed so I repeat-- is no news! Who wants to miss an opportunity to laugh at a JaLuos? aren't we the guys who always know better, the Mr. Know-Alls of the republic? So when we go down, it is time for the whole world to have their laughs! [ABC} ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D when they speak english with their 3 mobile phones with three simcards each! ;D ;D ;D ;D and burn their own shops! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 23:43:19 GMT 3
Jakaswanga. I am sure of one thing, Raila Odinga also knows that what I heard in Nyanza is true because he gets security intelligence briefings. The solid commitment to his Presidency by Luo Nyanza electorate was also true in 2007 when people asked for a free hand to elect MP's of their choice. Raila did listen except in a few cases such as saving Orengo from Mwanga in Ugenya. So those talking about propaganda and cheer leading should check facts from ODM leadership. Umoja2013. Pretending to be intouch with ODM leadership is pathetic and a desperate move!! ;D I guess you found a gullible cheerleader in Jakaswanga to believe your holy grail.. Don't assume that people here on Jukwaa have no direct connections with ODM/ wiper/CORD? funny enough some people it seems who are making claims of knowing the inside of ODM some are actually from Central Province, pretending really hysterical.. it is called maniac desperation!! Go advise Onyango Oloo Uhuruto campaign manage to stop feeding you with disinformation, propaganda and lies.. he too has no clue of the working of ODM party, what it does it makes you look ignorant , clueless about Nyanza politics.. I guess with the help of your cheerleader Jakaswanga
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 20, 2013 23:43:59 GMT 3
Very weird claims and yet you support former PNU/KARUA? now NARC_K I guess those foolish enough to believe your luo claim can do so.. hey there are many Luo's from uganda who also claim they are Jakaswanga: The lady has a fair point here. How can you claim to be a Luo and yet at the same time suggest that you are not firmly embedded in Raila's ... I forget what I was going to write there. Anyway, if you are a Luo, who gave you permission to have a mind of your own? We'll have to test your "authenticity", starting with the Stone-Throwing Examination, Part I.
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Post by jakaswanga on Jan 20, 2013 23:45:04 GMT 3
Very weird claims and yet you support former PNU/KARUA? now NARC_K I guess those foolish enough to believe your luo claim can do so.. hey there are many Luo's from uganda who also claim they are from Kenya ama? Call me a groupies or whatever insults you want to through at me.. you on the other hand have no musimamo? you go with the wind? Having read your post on Uganda and Rwanda? your involvement and work in those two countries.. one can't be surprised on where your political leaning are centered... Martha Karua former PNU/ now Narc-K = central province.. Poker game ain't working Mr. ... I'm on stand by waiting for more Raila bashing from you and your groupies from central province Let us just agree the postings I have done of Apondi nyar Mumbi have passe through your head. Otherwise you would have noticed what a critical assessment is. of the whole lot, I think Martha would make the best PORK, because she is not beholden to establishment economic interests. Raila like Uhuru is too vested in the present, and have too many debts to repay. Debts that doom them to betraying the popular asp rations. Yes there are many Luos from anywhere who claim they are Kenyans. But when they are asked which one are you most? trouble starts My msimamo? aa, death to all riggers!.
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 20, 2013 23:50:18 GMT 3
[t why is it any different when it happens in Nyanza? when this happens in "TNA" & "URP" UHURUTO'S PARTIES they are called fights and skirmishes but when it happens in Nyanza it is called a Revolt against Raila! see how propaganda rear's it's head without shame! bure kabisa! You have forgotten your own boastful postings about who the next president is? complete with presidential photo? well, I guess the home turf happenings of the next PORK has news value. And good news-- Umoja got the analysis right about the newspaper business which you missed so I repeat-- is no news! Who wants to miss an opportunity to laugh at a JaLuos? aren't we the guys who always know better, the Mr. Know-Alls of the republic? So when we go down, it is time for the whole world to have their laughs! [ABC} ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D when they speak english with their 3 mobile phones with three simcards each! ;D ;D ;D ;D and burn their own shops! ;D ;D ;D Jakwasanga not boasting just stating my opinion and following what is happening on the ground in kenya as i see it.. Fourth President of Kenya.. here he is... Seems that you are actually in pain when you see me posting Raila as the fourth president of Kenya. I will keep on posting and reminding Kenyans why he is the best Candidate.. Nobody has stopped to post or campaign for YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MARTHA KARUA on Here? what is stopping you to post on Jukwaa your presidential candidate from CENTRAL PROVINCE? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D MR. LUO MAN!!!
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