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Post by phil on Jan 19, 2013 20:09:55 GMT 3
ODM appeals board says it's dealing with a weighty matter over disputed Siaya governor, Gem MP polls and it will needs to sit late into the night. Here is an earlier statement on the same Statement on Party Nominations by ODM NEB Chairman
The National Elections Board of the ODM wishes to announce to all the aspirants, members, supporters and the general public that the National Appeals Board of the NEB is currently in session to deal with all the appeals and disputes by aspirants. More...... orange-democratic.blogspot.com/2013/01/statement-on-party-nominations-by-odm.html
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Post by afrigun on Jan 19, 2013 20:12:33 GMT 3
Since when did ODM tallying centre move to social media. The real RO in Siaya just resurfaced this afternoon. You must ask yourself who was that imposter reading ODM Siaya results in Bondo (very far from the tallying centre) yesterday. Its a difficult situation and one that I trust Mr Bett and NEB will satisfactorily handle. But no one should come here to purport that Oduol or Oburu is the winner. Phil, what are you saying? that its impossible to tell the winner as the contest was too close to call a la Raila/Kibaki and Kivuitu and Kriegler or what? Or worse, that Oduol has not actually been declared winner despite the reports?
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Post by patriotism101 on Jan 19, 2013 20:12:47 GMT 3
You will probably not get this - but I will try anyway. Whether Oduol is a mole or not - who cares? It is not Grundiqs, Amollo or 5,6,10 MPIGS place to make that determination - it is the voters. Alternatively, he should have been denied a chance to participate in the primaries based on the allegations of being a mole. Get that? Hopefully. Senti 5 patriotis101d-u-m-b I will say it again, if ODUOL is like Mudavadi paid for lock stock and barrel by Uhuru"TNT/ in the case of Mudavadi ( his statehouse handles) as rumour has iit then he must be busted and stopped! voters must be told the truth, not not have an impostor/mole in sheep's clothing in their mist pretending to case for the Constituency while his masters are in central province.. Saiya Province will not accept to be governed from central province!! ivyu tuI tried robo-reporter. News flash for you - and you can take this to the bank. Oburu will not be the governor of Siaya LTD. Senti 5
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Post by nok on Jan 19, 2013 20:15:18 GMT 3
@reporta ;D Am Pro CORD but the primaries, especially in Nyanza had to have some perceptial state of fairness. It is not only essentially for the image the party projects and it's leadership but also important in terms of mobilisation of the most loyal grass root base. The consequences of wrong moves could have dire effects like voter apathy not only in Nyanza but country wise and in a tight election that can end up being crucial. Really? you could have fooled me ;D ;D ;D.. how about the other parties? i.e TNA primaries? if your eyes are pinned only on ODM/CORD and it seems that Jubilee group is shouting at the top of their voices about what happens in ODM/CORD camp, I would imagine one should point out the inconsistencies in their own Jubilee camp i.e the Othaya Wambui 's win and her competitors claims of rigging? why is it any different from the Siaya case? !. Oburu =Raila's brother 2, Wambui= Kibaki's better half as rumour has it.. So why the noise in Siaya and the Media paid Hype? don't you find it ODD? I do and that is why I post what is happening in other party primaries.. it is I wonder I penned you out as a Uhuruto Supporter! because of your concentration on Oduol & Oburu while ignoring the same cases in within other parties all over the country.. @reporta The reason why am Interest in ODM or CORD primaries is because I feel affiliated to it. The others are secondary to me . So my silence on them has nothing to do with me being a supporter of a b or c. Now once again, just for you! I am Pro CORD, Pro ODM, Pro Raila take it or leave it!
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Post by patriotism101 on Jan 19, 2013 20:37:52 GMT 3
Here is a piece from the face book page of Miguna At Miguna. Note the similarities with the post by Nereah in this thread. Wondering who is cannibalising from who or could it be that these two are one and the same? You be the judge.
FACTS ON SIAYA COUNTY;{HOW MANY RELATIVES ARE SEEKING ELECTIVE POSTS IN KENYA?WHY ONLY SIAYA POLITICS?NTV have changed their HQ to siaya county there are many factors that worked against oduol: odm smelt the biggest rat the moment the raila hate society and anyone but raila brotherhood begun to troop into oduol corner robbing him of the much needed credibility and to my type effectively making him the vessel for dishonoring the most iconic brand that has been painstakingly built. the level of hypocrisy being demonstrated over this siaya choice baffles me.i asked an aide to do an audit of relatives who are seeking elective pots in kenya this season and the results were eye popping. yet it is raila odinga and the odinga family that is being targeted for obvious reasons. it is hypocritical to denounce what you have been made to believe is theft of votes in siaya while keeping mum at the direct nominations and boardroom deals in other party. james orengo from siaya has not been subjected to any election and by the way how did he make it to bunge in 2007 and with the benefit of hindsight,was that worth vindication? moral equivalency aside, the oduol happenstance for that is what i can imagine of his surprise and suspicious presence in odm, is worth interrogating far beyond the prism that the avowed anti-raila crowd are wont to. as YOU may want to indulge, agwambo has nothing to lose with the outcome or consequences whether he defect or used as poster boy of anti raila movement in luoland form simple reasons that kenyans have made up their mind on raila. the other reason is that oduol is attracting support from the usual crowd who have either never supported raila or are opprtunist. the good news though is that oduol and those voters in siaya who feel disenfranchised but believe they have what it takes to undermine the authority of agwambo and odm, should proceed to tna, sdp or any anti-raila party and "rescue the luos from odingaism" for the record may i state that the results of the siaya county polls for governor seat as given by the duly appointed returning officer are factual unless anyone, anyone at all on this page or lurking could provide incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.spare me the gibberish of why the results were announce in bondo and not siaya !
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 19, 2013 20:54:19 GMT 3
patriotis101d-u-m-b I will say it again, if ODUOL is like Mudavadi paid for lock stock and barrel by Uhuru"TNT/ in the case of Mudavadi ( his statehouse handles) as rumour has iit then he must be busted and stopped! voters must be told the truth, not not have an impostor/mole in sheep's clothing in their mist pretending to case for the Constituency while his masters are in central province.. Saiya Province will not accept to be governed from central province!! ivyu tuI tried robo-reporter. News flash for you - and you can take this to the bank. Oburu will not be the governor of Siaya LTD. Senti 5 patriotis101d-u-m-b you sound desperate and like a burned record, try concentrating on central province, than pretending you know Nyanza Politics.. Maybe try Uhuruto will be found guilty at the ICC take that to the Bank ;D ;D ;D
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 19, 2013 20:59:17 GMT 3
Really? you could have fooled me ;D ;D ;D.. how about the other parties? i.e TNA primaries? if your eyes are pinned only on ODM/CORD and it seems that Jubilee group is shouting at the top of their voices about what happens in ODM/CORD camp, I would imagine one should point out the inconsistencies in their own Jubilee camp i.e the Othaya Wambui 's win and her competitors claims of rigging? why is it any different from the Siaya case? !. Oburu =Raila's brother 2, Wambui= Kibaki's better half as rumour has it.. So why the noise in Siaya and the Media paid Hype? don't you find it ODD? I do and that is why I post what is happening in other party primaries.. it is I wonder I penned you out as a Uhuruto Supporter! because of your concentration on Oduol & Oburu while ignoring the same cases in within other parties all over the country.. @reporta The reason why am Interest in ODM or CORD primaries is because I feel affiliated to it. The others are secondary to me . So my silence on them has nothing to do with me being a supporter of a b or c. Now once again, just for you! I am Pro CORD, Pro ODM, Pro Raila take it or leave it! One can't call competitors secondary or irrelevant? all parties are competing for a win, and one has to look closely at the competitors and point out their faults and mistakes in order to have an upper hand.. you seem to be pointing at the party you claim to support? makes me wonder, it is like airing your dirty linen in public? instead of privately? doesn't sound as a strong supporter of ODM/CORD would want that to happen..
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Post by reporter911 on Jan 19, 2013 21:19:58 GMT 3
Observers had named Oduol the winner in the hotly contested elections with reports emerging as early as Thursday night that Oburu had lost the ticket. The elections board ordered that all party nominations which were being repeated be completed by midnight on Friday to ensure that candidates were not locked out of the March 4 elections. Bett said they had been advised by the Independence Electoral Boundaries Commission that results received past midnight Friday would be illegitimate. He at the same time appealed to voters in Kisumu, Migori and Homa Bay to observe sobriety and peace. At the same time, he disowned a statement made by ODM Secretary General Anyang' Nyong'o where he promised party members in Kisumu Central Constituency that there would be a repeat poll. Bett urged the party supporters to raise complaints with the National Elections Board and "not the other noises coming from other members of the party or media." "I know the membership of the NEB. My good friend Anyang' Nyong'o is not a member of the NEB," he said. Bett also says all successful candidates must seek their confirmation from the Elections Board and personally pick their certificates. "I want to urge people when they come for their certificates they don't have to come with mobs. The certificates are not heavy, they are light papers and they can only be taken by the candidates themselves. I do not want agents to come for them, they are very crucial document," he said. He said he will issue nomination certificates on Saturday to those who have been clinched the tickets unopposed. Bett said that he will start issuing the certificates for those who won their nominations on Sunday. allafrica.com/stories/201301181522.htmlThe votes will stay the same no matter what transpires..
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 12:54:21 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 12:54:56 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 12:55:40 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Jan 20, 2013 13:03:25 GMT 3
thanks onyi for this.meanwhile here is dr. oburu oginga explaining what sober minds on this issue have been hectoring about. be the judge
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Post by bkichwa on Jan 20, 2013 14:01:36 GMT 3
Meanwhile, per the media, repercussions of another Odinga nominations "victory declaration":
"@nation_Politics: RIOTS IN #Kisumu following conflicting reports of #RuthOdinga being declared winner of Governor seat; major highways barricaded."
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Post by nereah on Jan 20, 2013 14:42:24 GMT 3
we in odm under cord are focused on securing the popular mandate of kenyans for desired transformation of this nation.
it now appears that rest of political parties,having been unable to offer kenyans a more plausible alternative and in cahoots with anti-raila crowd and sundry opportunists are desperately engaged in masking their insecurities and failings by stage-managing fake revolt against the raila brand.
it is understandable that these insecurities are typical of any society in cusp of transition as kenya is especially with the next leader of agwambo's mould.
the fear is borne out of fear of losing their space and state levers with which they have perpetuated impunity and undermined the restoration of democracy and implementation of the constitution.
we are also aware that that the forces against implementation of katiba have through their influence in the media and civil society and with connivance of state functionaries hijacked what are normal democratic lapses to wedge selective and wicked campaign against raila and odinga family.
the question is how many relatives have vied for positions in kenyan polls and even those in illicit liasons and how many have been subjected to democratic,open and transparent contest and how many have not? and why the interest in the odinga family?
in britain, we have the millibad brothers in the cabinet forget about their elections. tanzania across, we can count upto three relatives in public positions, lets not even mention the zumas and musevenis.
then let it be known to all that odm as a party has a clause that provides for direct nomination, which all its members who claim to be so, must be familiar with.ruth odinga and dr oburu odinga have not opted for this and have instead offered themselves for a open, democratic contest managed by a board and officers whose appointment the anti-raila crowd nor their backers never raised a finger on.
we are saying that the sovereign will of kenyas supersede those of individuals and especially the old order and any effort to take advantage of the small confusion over the logistical challenges that is common with even usa polls to disparage, alienate, antagonise and ridicule the luos and odinga family will be met with the usual fate that previous attempts in this historical agenda have suffered.
kenyans must demand from those desperately undermining the chances of competitive aspirants in parts of nyanza by hijacking their campaigns and aspirations for the historical agenda to offer credible alternative to the odingaism(whatever that is)
meanwhile let all be reminded that raila odinga, odm and cord have not signed any irrevocable contract with any individual or groups of individuals whose democratic choice are open and available in the march 4th elections.
we in odm are therefore hopeful that the anti-raila movement that is being facilitated by the opponents and state functionaries (as evident by the level of distraction from jubilee inability to demonstrate better option) will scattered to the four corners of the wind.
tuko tayari and anybody doubting this are invited in kisumu,siaya and homa bay next week as kenya's forth president and his deputy musyoka wa kalonzo arouses the luo base.
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Post by nok on Jan 20, 2013 14:54:11 GMT 3
@ nereah In my own County and neighbour County there is a major revolt against William ! ;D Going by how his men were felled. It's only in the populous county of Kericho that has seen his allies sailing through by hook and crook.
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Post by nereah on Jan 20, 2013 15:01:49 GMT 3
nok,
it is signs of the time. i wish kamale or as a practising kikuyu was here to share with us the traditional relevance of migumu tree in kikuyu homestead and what moral choices would one have when it stands on the only space available for erecting a structire. this by the way is deep kikuyu that has greater bearing to our mt. kenya brothers.
note that agwambo was in the rural home of isaac the ruto where he held a one on one with isaac ruto's father. remember the encounter that he had with muthama's mum.
also read my advise to uhuru kenyatta in the thread jukwaa watch on uhuru.
unfortunately i have to go. see you guys on valentine's day ;D,
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 16:45:46 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 17:06:16 GMT 3
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Post by bkichwa on Jan 20, 2013 18:39:45 GMT 3
www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why-Luoland-rose-up-against-the-Odingas-in-ODM-polls--/-/440808/1669812/-/59h4axz/-/index.htmlWhy Luoland rose up against the Odingas in ODM polls Friday, January 18, 2013 is a day Prime Minister Raila Amolo Odinga may want to mark in his diary. It is the day Luo Nyanza woke up. National television beamed images of angry Karachuonyo youth tearing Mr Odinga’s campaign posters and chanting pro-TNA slogans. A young man sensing that Mr William Oduol, the people’s choice for Siaya governor, might be short-changed in the ODM nominations in favour of Dr Oburu Oginga, the PM’s elder brother, warned on TV: “If Raila lets us down, we shall let him down.” NTV reporter Larry Madowo, who has been covering the nominations in the county in the past three days, posted a telling tweet: “A mother just stopped me in Siaya town: ‘Bwana Larry, tell Raila Odinga that the fact that we’re poor does not mean we’re stupid.’” Politicians passing themselves as close allies of the PM’s were voted out amidst an angry wave of anti-Odinga sentiment across the land. To make sense of these events, one has to consider the fact that until recently the picture would be very different. The Siaya man would be hero-worshipping Raila, the Karachuonyo crowd would be declaring its willingness to die for Raila, the Siaya mother would be singing Raila’s praises, and the politicians would only need to pass by a trading centre to deliver fake greetings from Raila to earn the party ticket. Chances are that the PM will publicly dismiss Friday’s events as another storm in a tea cup. But privately he’ll be hurting and asking himself how it came to this. Well, he won’t have to look any further than himself and the people around him for an answer. The current rebellion is a culmination of a simmering resentment against an evolving Odinga hegemony and his patronising of Luo politics over the years. There is a growing perception that voters in Luo Nyanza don’t go to the polls to elect their leaders but to help Raila select his friends. It is not by accident that the ODM nominations were particularly flawed in the Luo Nyanza counties. The informal power wielded by Mrs Ida Odinga, the PM’s wife, in ODM Elena Ceausescu-style has also alienated a section of party faithful. If the people had somehow come to tolerate the patronage as a small sacrifice for the party leader, their patience has lately worn thin in light of what they consider attempts by the Odingas to go for broke. Word on the street is that in this election alone, at least five members of the Odinga family intended to run for various seats in Nairobi, Siaya and Kisumu. For a man who partly owes his popularity to the notion that he is a political enigma, the PM’s high-profile role in the coalition government also served to remove the mystery. Even among his most ardent supporters, there have to be some who look at him and think of the scandals at his office discussed in WikiLeaks and Miguna Miguna’s Peeling Back the Mask. jkotieno@ke.nationmedia.com
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Post by OtishOtish on Jan 20, 2013 18:40:50 GMT 3
The robotic voters will be told to march according to the beat, they will obey, and life will go on. If, after Naivasha and Nakuru PEV, Maina Njenga can be welcome in CORD, without a single raised eyebrow (let alone tough questions), what's a governership?
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Post by bkichwa on Jan 20, 2013 18:52:04 GMT 3
Otishotish, are you sure about this?
See this tweet by Robert Alai from 40 minutes ago. The demonstrations have gotten to Nairobi.
Robert Alai @robertalai ALERT: Massive demonstration from Kibera to Orange house through Wood Avenue. AVOID the area. #iVolunteer #Siasa2013
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jan 20, 2013 19:12:16 GMT 3
The robotic voters will be told to march according to the beat, they will obey, and life will go on. If, after Naivasha and Nakuru PEV, Maina Njenga can be welcome in CORD, without a single raised eyebrow (let alone tough questions), what's a governership? You seem to badly underestimate what is going on in Nyanza or rather confuse what the Siaya man is fighting for and what the larger populace should be focusing on. These people have suffered for very many years. They have had to, in every election, postpond their aspirations in the thinking that it is good for the nation and even better for them. But then, Odinga and his people have kept on pushing the needle further each passing election. When he this time round decided to dot the area with his immediate family members, the people had to say no, not just to his family, but to his friends too, most of whom have been loaded on them for years now without any returns.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Jan 20, 2013 20:39:49 GMT 3
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Post by mangai on Jan 20, 2013 20:43:20 GMT 3
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Post by Mobimba on Jan 20, 2013 20:51:23 GMT 3
Kibera Luo folk are matching to Orange house. Those in Siaya have lit the streets. Raila himself is shell shocked and shut in the castle. Not a word from him.
YES. No matter how you look at it, it’s an anti-Raila revolution. One that will be talked of for years to come.
And rightly, one started by MIGUNA MIGUNA!!!!
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