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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 7, 2013 11:26:06 GMT 3
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Post by jakaswanga on May 7, 2013 20:56:33 GMT 3
Occupy parliament! Well, a people have to start somewhere! Occupy is a distant cousin of storming the Bastille! But we will get there alright as a people ---I have a dream, that the guilotine will be erected in the center of Nairobi city, at Uhuru park, and the head of every Mpig who accepts this salary-raise which is a robbery expedition, shall roll like the hapless torso of an Aztec sacrificial victim, hurtling down the high stairs of the Great Pyramid at Tenochtitlan!
Aah, High-Priest of crimson hands
Torn hearts aloft to the God-Sun held
To end this unrelenting period of darkness
Thy hand need be firm in deeds unspeakable!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 10, 2013 9:04:12 GMT 3
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Post by omundustrong on May 10, 2013 9:35:54 GMT 3
Just signed the petition.Let us express our disgust.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 11, 2013 18:45:38 GMT 3
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Post by jakaswanga on May 11, 2013 22:40:44 GMT 3
Rich pickings I would say for a job poorly done. I will be German about it: when you are paid to do nothing, you are an enemy of yourself. But when you are paid very well to do nothing, you are both the worst enemy of yourself and of Germany. And you should not have been born German. [--well, then you were born to be a Kenyan parliamentarian!  ] Aah, Fates, was there ever a creature more despicable than a Kenyan parliamentarian??
Aaa Fates,
Fatten me more hogs, for the slaughter of fated Mpigs leads to a good quality of Pork!  KENYA IS A TERRIBLE PLACE TO BE IN MATERNITY! 25th worst on Earth place to give birth! Notice: some of these infant mortalities can be stopped by simple things like ORS [oral rehydration Salts] and simple fluid infusions. But if you have been to a public hospital or dispensary where the majority of Kenyan women and children go, then you know the idea of an intra-venous infuse is a silly thought. INFANTICIDE SANCTIONED BY THE RULING ELITE. 3M/YEAR, 1M of them within the first 3 months of their birth. ---Aah, Fates! avenge me the lives of a million Kenyan babies condemned to death at birth!
Aaa Fates!
Grant me a business to exchange their lives for the blood of Mpigs who stole their health! Here is Okungu Jerry too, toying with the idea of DISBANDING 8-)the Mpigs Paradise. www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-119920/disband-parliament-if-mps-wont-serve-us Funeral drums thunder, the corpses dance live! O fates! wean my heart off mercy!
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Post by mank on May 12, 2013 6:26:24 GMT 3
Rich pickings I would say for a job poorly done. I will be German about it: when you are paid to do nothing, you are an enemy of yourself. But when you are paid very well to do nothing, you are both the worst enemy of yourself and of Germany. And you should not have been born German. [--well, then you were born to be a Kenyan parliamentarian! ] Aah, Fates, was there ever a creature more despicable than a Kenyan parliamentarian??
Aaa Fates,
Fatten me more hogs, for the slaughter of fated Mpigs leads to a good quality of Pork! KENYA IS A TERRIBLE PLACE TO BE IN MATERNITY! 25th worst on Earth place to give birth! Notice: some of these infant mortalities can be stopped by simple things like ORS [oral rehydration Salts] and simple fluid infusions. But if you have been to a public hospital or dispensary where the majority of Kenyan women and children go, then you know the idea of an intra-venous infuse is a silly thought. INFANTICIDE SANCTIONED BY THE RULING ELITE. 3M/YEAR, 1M of them within the first 3 months of their birth. ---Aah, Fates! avenge me the lives of a million Kenyan babies condemned to death at birth!
Aaa Fates!
Grant me a business to exchange their lives for the blood of Mpigs who stole their health! Here is Okungu Jerry too, toying with the idea of DISBANDING 8-)the Mpigs Paradise. www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-119920/disband-parliament-if-mps-wont-serve-us Funeral drums thunder, the corpses dance live! O fates! wean my heart off mercy!
Hmm, Gym Membership ... by that token there should be at least a line for Githeri, and another for toilet tissue ... and of course another for panadol. |
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Post by nereah on May 13, 2013 20:47:18 GMT 3
singing our own song
i am very reluctant to endorse this occupy parliament movement because it begs some urgent questions.what is its ideological basis? is it a socialist movement? is it seeking political solution to kenya's problem/s and for that matter out to displace the people's representatives?
who are the titular heads of this occupy parliament and what is their objective? a people revolution? is this a middle class or an urban poor and peasants revolt?
how organized is this formation and what can it achieve outside the opposition cord and what is there to learn from the muites,kivutha kibwanas,miguna migunas,njoyas, james orengos and davinder lambas who have been there,done that and even wore the t-shirts?
so what am i running my mouth about?
nyagem is simply saying that anything, any initiative, any people revolt and mass action that preclude the political class and the peasants in a kenya that the constitution grants the people the power for self determination is ill thought out and careless. we have reached a point in the struggle where no more brawns,confrontation and noisy protestation suffices unless they are for ventilation.
what kenyans who genuinely want change is to identify the reasons why revolution is eating its children as we see in the ogegos,migunas,kibwanas and muites and to determine how best as we in cord and odm are currently doing,we can deliver the people from the structural and historical threats to kenya's existence.
i could be wrong as usual but thats my pesa nane. now lets go to the dance floor.shall we?
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 1:44:36 GMT 3
My Sister Nereah:
To answer you.
I am actually slightly startled at your objections to the Occupy Parliament event.
The Occupy Parliament movement is a broad based DEMOCRATIC and NON-PARTISAN KENYAN initiative that has drawn in students, workers, the urban poor, middle class representatives, artists, cultural workers, socialists, bloggers and journalists.
The core organizing team has members representing Pawa 254 led by Boniface Mwangi; Bunge la Mwananchi, Safina, SDP, Kenyans for Peace through Truth and Justice, Jukwaa la Katiba to name but a few.
Onyango Oloo represents the Social Democratic Party in that organizing core. Many of the young people I have been seeing in the planning meetings are affiliated to CORD, even though I have not seen some of the leading lights of ODM, Wiper and FORD Kenya attend the preparatory gatherings to give it what it in your view may be mainstream "legitimacy".
Those individuals you mention as icons of past popular struggles are very much support the initiative. We are expecting Hussein Khalid from MUHURI in Mombasa to be one of the main speakers. Maina Kiai and Inform Action will be there to stream the event live. Davinder Lamba will show up with his whistles. Reverend Timothy Njoya will kick off the event with prayers.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Onyango Oloo
Secretary for Ideology
Social Democratic Party
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:16:54 GMT 3
Posting by Carole Theuri, Coordinator of KPTJ, housed at AfriCOG.
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:32:15 GMT 3
Some of the placards, slogans and messages at the May 14, 2013 Occupy Parliament event in Nairobi:   
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:35:18 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:42:06 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:46:22 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:52:29 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 2:57:43 GMT 3
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 6:33:06 GMT 3
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Post by mank on May 14, 2013 6:55:41 GMT 3
Kenya is no place for greedy bastards! !!
Those mPIGS did not realize what they were asking for ... now they should!
Irie feeling about this. And now that Kenyans have opened their mouth, they should not keep quite till they are unambiguously heard.
Kudos to all those who have organized this voice ... especially to Jukwaa's OO.
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That's serious! Who, besides mPIGs, constitute "public servants"?
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Post by kamalet on May 14, 2013 9:20:53 GMT 3
Have all options available in law been exhausted to resort to this route or do the options available to Kenyans for recourse no longer matter? The energy and money being "wasted" on pointless placards should have been channelled to help fund the legal application by Okiya Omtata challenging the actions of the MPs. I am afraid that like many previous initiatives this will fail and the disruption making the financial savings the demos puport to fight for wasted. Go to court if you are disatisfied....not on the streets! Serem has already said she will not accept the MPs demands, so why are we wasting time on this 'occupy parliament'  ? There should be some form of originality in how we design protests and copying ideas from elsewhere the object is bound to fail! |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 9:44:25 GMT 3
Have all options available in law been exhausted to resort to this route or do the options available to Kenyans for recourse no longer matter? The energy and money being "wasted" on pointless placards should have been channelled to help fund the legal application by Okiya Omtata challenging the actions of the MPs. I am afraid that like many previous initiatives this will fail and the disruption making the financial savings the demos puport to fight for wasted. Go to court if you are disatisfied....not on the streets! Serem has already said she will not accept the MPs demands, so why are we wasting time on this 'occupy parliament' ? There should be some form of originality in how we design protests and copying ideas from elsewhere the object is bound to fail! Unfortunately for you, neither you nor anybody else can deign to prescribe or proscribe for Kenyans what they can or can not do in their quest for transparency, governance and accountability. It is becoming increasingly amusing to see some quarters in Kenyan society DIRECT their compatriots where to channel their protests. When is the last time you read the Constitution, especially the section on the Bill of Rights? Onyango Oloo
Nairobi
PS: I am getting rather late for the action on Occupy Parliament. Let me get off the internet and hit the streets. |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on May 14, 2013 9:45:47 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on May 14, 2013 10:11:50 GMT 3
Have all options available in law been exhausted to resort to this route or do the options available to Kenyans for recourse no longer matter? The energy and money being "wasted" on pointless placards should have been channelled to help fund the legal application by Okiya Omtata challenging the actions of the MPs. I am afraid that like many previous initiatives this will fail and the disruption making the financial savings the demos puport to fight for wasted. Go to court if you are disatisfied....not on the streets! Serem has already said she will not accept the MPs demands, so why are we wasting time on this 'occupy parliament' ? There should be some form of originality in how we design protests and copying ideas from elsewhere the object is bound to fail! Unfortunately for you, neither you nor anybody else can deign to prescribe or proscribe for Kenyans what they can or can not do in their quest for transparency, governance and accountability. It is becoming increasingly amusing to see some quarters in Kenyan society DIRECT their compatriots where to channel their protests. When is the last time you read the Constitution, especially the section on the Bill of Rights? Onyango Oloo
Nairobi
PS: I am getting rather late for the action on Occupy Parliament. Let me get off the internet and hit the streets.Oloo Unfortunately you seem to have joined civil society types that think they have all the solutions. Criticising the mode used by activists does not mean I support what the MPs are doing - far from it. I just think it is pointless to shout about on the streets when all avenues available to channel the complaint have not been exhausted. It is a fact that none of you sitting in the central organising committee are forking the money for the placards from your pockets as someone is paying for this. Have suggested to your funders to help pay legal costs as I had suggested in the Omtata suit in court on the SAME subject? When Kenyans ignore civil society, it is because of this lack of foresight.....but I guess the money must be good to shove commonsense aside! Kamale PS. I am certain you would have found something more profitable to do than rushing off to the streets...... |
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Post by omundustrong on May 14, 2013 10:14:46 GMT 3
Go for it OO the preamble to the constitution which i quote partly says"We,the people of kenya-Acknowledging,Honouring,proud,respectful,committed,recognising and EXERCISING our sovereign and inalienable right
to determine the form of governance of our country and having participated fully in the making of this constitution:adopt,enact and give this constitution to ourselves and to our future generations.
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Post by kamalet on May 14, 2013 11:22:38 GMT 3
Go for it OO the preamble to the constitution which i quote partly says"We,the people of kenya-Acknowledging,Honouring,proud,respectful,committed,recognising and EXERCISING our sovereign and inalienable right
to determine the form of governance of our country and having participated fully in the making of this constitution:adopt,enact and give this constitution to ourselves and to our future generations.Do you have an idea of the breadth and width of "the sovereign and inalienable right"? I shall leave it to you to imagine!!! |
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Post by omundustrong on May 14, 2013 12:04:30 GMT 3
You should have added the word "depth"to the three "breadth,width,and depth"i have an idea and that is why i quoted that preamble!It simply means inherent rights,rights that cannot be transfered or transferable and these includes right to assemble,petition,choose a profession,free speech etc though i dont like using the word etc(end of thinking capacity)
However,having inelianable rights doesnt mean that we cannot be attacked (as some are doing here),imprisoned,or even being arbitrarily killed.It means that when this rights are abridged then there is legal redress.
I therefore reserve my inelianable rights as sacrosanct and nobody can pretend to presribe them to me,others,or the larger population,they are not transferable.Those picketing have a right to do so without being intimidated.
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