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Post by Titchaz on Mar 28, 2012 18:12:43 GMT 3
Wakuu wa Jukwaa,I have been watching the current developements in our great nation with a lot of guarded optimism because Kibaki and his ilk are not people you can trust as usual. Infact my ancestors always had a saying "Huo ni moto wa kuotea mbali"...loosely translated, thats a fire you wanna stay away from even if you are feeling cold. The sacking of one Najib Balala as Minister of Tourism was long overdue and the man had said himself that he had quit the 'undemocratic ODM' and I believe Jukwaaists had discussed that matter in this thread... jukwaa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=6728Me being me... ;D...I decided to check out my sources down yonder to guage the mood on the street. One thing had started sounding clear was that the former Minister was rallying his base calling Raila a betrayer and what have you...and at the same time piggybacking that whole thing with "Raila is against Muslims" line. This was a man desperately trying to remain relevant and he would go to whatever extremes to do this....even if it is 'clatching at straws when drowning'. I was glad when the Kenya Muslims National Advisory Council (KMNAC) under the Chairmanship of Sheikh Juma Ngao came and cartegorically distanced the Muslim fraternity from this dangerous slope that Balala and his cyber disciples had tried to engage us in for the last 48hrs. Muslim group defends PM over Balala sacking Kenya Muslims National Advisory Council (KMNAC) chairman Sheikh Ngao defended over the sacking of Tourism minister Najib Balala saying the move was long overdue March 28, 2012. By LUCAS BARASA Posted Wednesday, March 28 2012 at 13:04 A group of Muslims have defended Prime Minister Raila Odinga over the sacking of Tourism minister Najib Balala saying the move was long overdue. The Kenya Muslims National Advisory Council (KMNAC) further said Muslims had not met anywhere and resolved to cut links with Mr Odinga or any other leader as claimed by National Muslims Leaders Forum and the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya.Speaking to the Nation by phone from Naivasha, KMNAC chairman Sheikh Juma Ngao said Muslims countrywide had benefited little from Mr Balala’s ministerial position and from nominated MP Sheikh Dor who got the positions following an MOU between the community and Mr Odinga. “Those criticising Mr Odinga for sacking Mr Balala and claiming Muslims have severed links with the PM are propagating their own selfish interests.
"Their views do not represent those of 10.5 million Muslims in the country. Muslims have never converged and said they hate Mr Odinga or any other leader. It is not true that Muslims have withdrawn support for Mr Odinga,” Sheikh Ngao said.Sheikh Ngao said the MOU reached between certain Muslim groups with Mr Odinga prior to 2007 elections was "for their own benefit". “We should differentiate between Islam, Muslims and Muslim groups. Balala’s ministerial position did not benefit Muslims in Turkana, Marakwet, Nakuru or Taita. Individuals who want elective positions should vie on their own without dragging the whole religious community,” Sheikh Ngao said. Sheikh Ngao said Mr Balala prompted his own sacking by announcing four years ago that ODM was dictatorial and that he will form his party, a thing that he repeated two weeks ago.“Mr Odinga was only making Mr Balala’s resignation from a position reserved for an ODM minister official through writing so that the Mvita MP could have ample time to form his own party,” Sheikh Ngao said. He said Muslim leaders should learn from Christians who did not cry foul following the removal of Eldoret North MP William Ruto, Gatundu South MP Uhuru Kenyatta and the suspension of Tinderet MP Henry Kosgey from Cabinet. “We should stop mixing religion with politics. Those who want to join politics should face the electorate and campaign. Muslims are free to elect anybody,” Sheikh Ngao said.On Tuesday, Namlef organising secretary Sheikh Mohammed Khalifa said the sacking of Balala is a breach of the agreement signed between the organisation and Mr Odinga. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Muslim+group+defends+PM+over+Balala+sacking/-/1064/1375226/-/jcvsenz/-/index.htmlSo there you have it from Sheikh Ngao....then I was wondering about all those cyber urchins going around saying Raila is a dictator who doesn't entertain oppossing voices. Kwani they are not seeing the PNU side doing the same thing? Why is there no likewise vitriol directed at Kibaki for 'demoting' Foreign Affairs Minister Wetangula and Justice Minister Kilonzo?...Selective amnesia huh? Ok...so what does JAKOM..( I have no idea what that name means but I love it... ;D)...do? He goes directly into Balala's backyard...right in the lions den so to speak to do work that the Hon Minister should have done.... I got this SMS early in the morning eti I should tell my mother to go to Tononoka maana 'Raila was coming to dish out money to the coastals'...Jamani Kenyans have a way of corrupting messages so I let it go and I told my pal, Mom was ok financially, after all her she made sure her kids were secure as a future 'safety net' for her during her golden years. So I started calling and inquring what this 'gawaring pesa' was about...then I came across this! Raila launches cash transfer subsidy Prime Minister Raila Odinga Wednesday launched a cash transfer programme that will earn 10,200 poorest households in Mombasa a stipend of Sh2,000 each.Raila said the programme would be piloted in Mvita, Likoni, Changamwe and Kisauni where the households will receive the stipend after every two months. Raila explained that the selection of these areas was guided by Kenya integrated household budget survey, which identified them as some of the poorest in Kenya. The PM who launched the programme at Tononoka grounds in Mombasa added that based on the lessons learned from this pilot stage, the government would later roll out the project to all poor and vulnerable urban and rural households in the country. Noting that the amount of the stipend will be increased with time, Raila emphasized that a decent standard of living for the people is no longer a matter of mercy or sympathy for the poor. "It is a constitutional requirement. It is also a millennium development goal," he added.The PM went on to say that the bill of rights grants every Kenyan the right to a decent standard of living, adding the Kenya Vision 2030 also identifies equity and poverty reduction as one of the four main pillars of economic development. He said, "The state can therefore no longer afford to allow any citizen to languish in poverty and disease."(...now that we have oil....) ;DHe revealed that the urban food subsidy cash transfer is one the components on the National Social Protection Policy Programme the government is working on adding it was working on programmes to address risks associated with unemployment, injuries, and old age among others as the next targets. Raila however acknowledged that while subsidies are justified to stem the tide of hunger, poor health and general deprivation, there was urgent need to address the low and declining agricultural productivity, which, he added, was the real cause of poverty. He said, "We need bold policies that enable people to afford farm inputs. We must conserve our environment and we must do more irrigation" he said adding, "We are taking steps in this direction and I am confident they will bear fruits." The PM stated that there was need for creativity, patience and determination to get the poor out of poverty, saying there was evidence that a small push will achieve this goal. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000055074&cid=4 ....As usual RAO had to be accompanied by his Coast Brigade led by non other than Gavana mtarajiwa Ali Hassan Joho, mbunge mtarajiwa wa Mvita, Abdullswamad Shariff Nassir na Senator mtarajiwa wa Mombasa County, Mhe Kajembe...hii nd'o inaitwa 'fuli-kikosi' representing ODM in Mombasa as we speak. Love it or hate it, waswahili watakwambia "Utaishia kunawa tu. Umesusa, wenzio twala."Nawasilisha
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 28, 2012 18:33:48 GMT 3
Assistant Minister for Transport, Hon. Hassan Ali Joho sharing a word with The Prime Minister Raila Odinga during at Urban Food Subsidy Cash Transfer Programme held at the Tononoka Grounds. Hassan Joho (in glasses) and Abdullswamad Nassir (with cellphone) Introducing Abdullswamad Shariff Nassir, the kid who run Balala out of Mvita in broad daylight. Kwa huyu ba'mdogo Balala hakua na jibu. Supporter of Arsenal as you can see.... ....Hatutaki ukabila wala udini!!!
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Post by toddo on Mar 28, 2012 18:35:06 GMT 3
Hebu nitafsiri neno "JAKOM" Inamaanisha mwenyekiti au Chairman kwa kimombo.
Hata hivyo mwezangu uvundo wa Bwana Balala sasa utapelekwa kwengine.
In political business terms RAO has weighed his options and decided to cut to the chase. For him, the time is precious and he does not need to keep friends who are not politically useful . Time will tell.
Laa!
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 28, 2012 18:52:51 GMT 3
Glad to see naomi shaban put politics aside to join jakom in this initiative. or is it because it's under her ministry? did uhuru her BOSS sanction this?
BTW, who is that chinese/oriental-looking dude (in black suit and tie) next to joho? i hear there's been an influx of visitors since we struck it rich ;D.
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 28, 2012 18:55:05 GMT 3
Hebu nitafsiri neno "JAKOM" Inamaanisha mwenyekiti au Chairman kwa kimombo. Hata hivyo mwezangu uvundo wa Bwana Balala sasa utapelekwa kwengine. In political business terms RAO has weighed his options and decided to cut to the chase. For him, the time is precious and he does not need to keep friends who are not politically useful . Time will tell. Laa! toddo,heshima mbele mkuu mwenzangu. Shukrani kwa hio tafsiri ya hilo neno.... ;D RAO has done well to cut his losses with Balala for he knows what time it is. Despite what people are saying sijui Balala did ABC about tourism and tousrists to Kenya is really something anybody would have done. Kenya kusema ule ukweli markets itself very well and will continue to do so, so long as the political establishment is fine with the west...somehow we are their 'darling'...whatever that means. Huyu bwana shida yake ilianza kuonekana mtaani maana vijana wengi hususan katika eneo lake wamesoma na hawana kazi. Kisha mheshimiwa hafanyi lolote kuwasaidia kupata ajira hotelini au bandarini. Ukimuangalia mwenzake, Kajembe, amejaza watu kutoka Changamwe kule KPA. Sasa wewe niambie tofauti kati ya hawa watu wawili ni nini? Vijana walikata tamaa nae na huyu kijana wa Shariff Nassir alipoanza kusaidia watu kupitia misikitini na mambo ya shule, he caught peoples attention and filled a huge political void. At that time Balala was busy canvasing for 'the new face of the Kenyan political scene' not to notice his base was eroding badly. By the time he realised it, akaanza these shadow boxing fights with RAO...who at that time was looking at Joho as his point man and Jhoho had identified Abdullswamad as a perfect choice for the people of Mvita to replace Najib. The fights were the last nail in his coffin and lets see what happens next for him.
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Post by phil on Mar 28, 2012 19:06:06 GMT 3
Glad to see naomi shaban put politics aside to join jakom in this initiative. or is it because it's under her ministry? did uhuru her BOSS sanction this? BTW, who is that chinese/oriental-looking dude (in black suit and tie) next to joho? i hear there's been an influx of visitors since we struck it rich ;D. That's Japanese Ambassador to Kenya His Excellency Mr Toshihisa Takata. TitchazBalala's assertion that it is Mudavadi glue holding ODM is stupid and childish. His other insinuation that Muslims have been given a raw deal following his sacking is dishonest. Most of the electorate in Mombasa do not seem to agree with him. Muslims are categorical that they are not Balala. Most people forget that Balala opted out of the ODM grassroot elections, and while this does not mean he is no longer a member of ODM, it means he chose not to contest any national or county position and he opted not to be elected as a delegate of the party. Then he turns around and says ODM is not democratic typical of someone who is so used to direct nomination because he knows he stands no chance in the ballot box down in Kisauni. In 2007, none of the pentagon members were subject to primaries in their respective constituencies simply because they were deeply involved in presidential campaigns. It is a bit different this time around, and as can be seen, Mudavadi is clearly enjoying himself campaigning around the counties. Why not cry-baby Balala? Bure kabisa!
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 28, 2012 19:08:16 GMT 3
Glad to see naomi shaban put politics aside to join jakom in this initiative. or is it because it's under her ministry? did uhuru her BOSS sanction this? BTW, who is that chinese/oriental-looking dude (in black suit and tie) next to joho? i hear there's been an influx of visitors since we struck it rich ;D. That 'dude' happens to be Ambassador Toshihisa Takata of Japan. Minister for Gender, Children and Social Development Hon.Naomi Shaaban having a word with Msambweni Member of Parliament Omar Zonga as the Mombasa Mayor Ahmed Modhar listen keenly at the function. Granted that the thing falls under her Ministry, Naomi Shabaan is also looking at the signs of the times and Pwani is looking locked and loaded for ODM...sio siri. For her survival she has to be very careful man the land issues will feature heavily in the campaigns as the forces of impunity try to shield their ill aquired wealth (read land)...she is known to front for the Kenyatta's and that chunk of land they have in Taveta. Back in the days tulikua tunaogopa kusema lakini raundi hii si mchezo.....itaanikwa yote nje kisha tuone atajitetea kivipi yet her own people are squatters in these lands. I pity her position...labda akule hio fweza ya UK kwa sasa for heck of it!
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Post by nereah on Mar 28, 2012 19:33:18 GMT 3
Hassan Joho (in glasses) and Abdullswamad Nassir (with cellphone) can someone confirm if the man seated on the right hand side of nassir junior is indeed the person i think he is.... joseph okoth waudi? an agwambo loyalist and friend to my late dad. bring back the memories of gone days as a coastarian.
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 28, 2012 19:42:48 GMT 3
Hassan Joho (in glasses) and Abdullswamad Nassir (with cellphone) can someone confirm if the man seated on the right hand side of nassir junior is indeed the person i think he is.... joseph okoth waudi? an agwambo loyalist and friend to my late dad. bring back the memories of gone days as a coastarian. I believe you meant to say left hand side of Nassir Jr...and yes you are right. Hao nd'o wajaluo wa Mombasa eti...Raila damu since way back when...I think nilikua bado nakimbia uchi mtaani.... ;D
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2012 19:45:34 GMT 3
Balala’s sacking to cost Raila dearly – Muslims Posted by WAMBUI NDONGA on March 28, 2012 Raila is accused of disregarding agreement he signed with National Forum of Leaders of Muslim Organisations (NAMLEF)/FILE NAIROBI, Kenya, Mar 28 – Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s fortunes at the Coast have taken a turn for the worse after nominated MP Sheikh Mohammed Dor and other Muslim leaders accused him of betraying a Memorandum of Understanding he signed with them in the run up to the 2007 elections. The leaders, who accompanied former Tourism Minister Najib Balala to a press briefing on Wednesday, accused the premier of disregarding the agreement he signed with the National Forum of Leaders of Muslim Organisations (NAMLEF). Dor said that the betrayal would not be taken lightly terming Balala’s drop from the Cabinet as an attempt by the Prime Minister to create religious strife. “Balala’s removal from office is contemptuous and it is something that we will carry with us to the next election; we will not forget. We are Kenyans and our leaders must be respected,” he said. NAMLEF chairman Sheikh Abdullahi Abdi added that Odinga could not be trusted with the leadership of the country saying he was a dictator. “I think Muslims were misled in the same way that Kenyans were misled. There was a perception that Raila was a reformer but the veneer of reforms has now been lifted,” he said. “The true chemistry of this person has come out and what does it speak of? It speaks of a power hungry dictator who will stop at nothing to get power,” he charged. Balala on the other hand maintained that he lost his cabinet post for standing by the truth, adding that the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) had no democracy. He also challenged Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi to leave ODM or risk quashing his presidential ambitions. “The price of being an independent minded person is that you get fired and if Mudavadi seriously wants to be the president of this country, I can guarantee you, he will not get it through ODM. Unfortunately if he decides to leave, he will get fired,” he quipped. He added that ODM was a sinking ship that would crumble with Mudavadi’s exit. He also spoke highly of the Deputy Prime Minister saying he would make a good president. “ODM is being held by Mudavadi and if he leaves it will collapse. He is a good leader who can make a good President but he needs to cut links with ODM,” he argued. The former Tourism Minister also revealed that he was in the process of consulting like-minded political and religious leaders with a view of determining the best political party through which to vie in the next polls. “It’s still too early to name the party but we already have a few choices that we are in talks with,” he said. However speaking in Mombasa, Odinga said he had no option but to sack Balala as he had out rightly opposed the leadership in ODM. The premier said he could not stomach Balala’s public attacks on the party and decided to relieve him of his duties. Odinga further assured Mombasa leaders that they would soon get a ministerial post. Dor had earlier noted that Balala’s drop had effectively stripped the coastal people of their last ministerial post. “It is unfortunate that the ODM Chairman has thrown out the MOU we signed with him and he has even gone ahead to remove the last Minister we had as Muslims,” he argued. Isiolo MP Abdul Bahari and Kamukunji’s Yusuf Hassan were also present. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2012/03/balalas-sacking-to-cost-raila-dearly-muslims/
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2012 19:49:36 GMT 3
RAILA FACES BACKLASH ON BALALA SACKING Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:54 BY STAR TEAM E-mail Print PDF Share/Save/Bookmark CONSEQUENCE: Raila. Photo/Jesse Mwangi CONSEQUENCE: Raila. Photo/Jesse Mwangi Prime Minister Raila Odinga yesterday moved fast to stem a Muslim backlash from Monday's Cabinet reshuffle by appointing Kisauni MP Ali Hassan Joho to the Cabinet. Joho became the assistant Transport minister, a day after Najib Balala's removal as Tourism minister. Joho's appointment is expected to mollify Muslims at the Coast who have accused the PM of betraying them. Muslim groups led by the Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims protested Balala's dismissal and accused Raila of going against the memorandum he had signed with the Muslim leaders when seeking their support before the 2007 elections. In the MoU, leaked to the media in early 2008 and never refuted, Raila promised that he would nominate Muslims to Parliament, give them ministerial positions and elevate them to advisory and partnership roles in his government. “But we were only given one ministerial position, which has now been taken away from us, and many assistant minister positions,” said Sheikh Khalifa at the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya offices in Makadara, Mombasa yesterday. He said Muslim leaders will now campaign against Raila who hopes to stand for president in 2013. SUPKEM secretary general Adan Wachu said the Muslim fraternity was angered by the PM's decision. “If you remember, the PM dropped Adan Duale, a Muslim from Garissa and replaced him with Dan Mwazo, from Taita Taveta. We did not complain. Now he has added salt to the wound by sacking Balala and elevating the same Mwazo to succeed him. It's a double tragedy," Wachu added. Balala however remained calm yesterday but promised to issue a detailed statement later today. “Positions come and go. When it's time, I have to move on. But my dedication is to the public in whose service l shall remain," Balala said as he handed over to Mwazo at his former office at the Tourism ministry in Utalii House yesterday. Kenya Muslim National Advisory Council chairman Sheikh Juma Ngao called on Muslim leaders and Balala not to blame Raila for the reshuffle. Ngao said Balala had "sacked himself" when he decided to oppose the ODM party that sponsored him to Parliament by announcing that he would be leaving to form his own party. “He failed to respect his boss and betrayed his party,” said Sheikh Ngao. However he concurred with the CIPK that Balala should have been replaced with another Muslim from the Coast. He suggested that Changamwe MP Ramadhan Kajembe or Joho should have been considered for the Tourism ministry. Raila is expected to fly to Mombasa today for a function at Tononoka grounds where he will address some of these concerns during the launch of the Urban Food Subsidy Cash Transfer Programme. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/68752-raila-faces-backlash-on-balala-sacking
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Post by toddo on Mar 28, 2012 19:53:53 GMT 3
Hebu nitafsiri neno "JAKOM" Inamaanisha mwenyekiti au Chairman kwa kimombo. Hata hivyo mwezangu uvundo wa Bwana Balala sasa utapelekwa kwengine. In political business terms RAO has weighed his options and decided to cut to the chase. For him, the time is precious and he does not need to keep friends who are not politically useful . Time will tell. Laa! toddo,heshima mbele mkuu mwenzangu. Shukrani kwa hio tafsiri ya hilo neno.... ;D The fights were the last nail in his coffin and lets see what happens next for him. My hunch is that the guy will change his tune at least a few times before the next General elections and then he will end up being irrelevant politically. I can guarantee you that he will even publicly contemplate coming back to ODM. I will not be surprised. But if I were in ODM, I would even kick him out of the party officially NOW so that he can go get a new mandate from the people. I know that is a long short... Siasa ya Mvita ni matata sana and he is definately not smart enough. I was going to give him the benefit of doubt until he brought in the excuse of Raila is not honoring the MOU he had with Muslims. That is really pathetic! Am glad the other sober minded muslim brothers are telling him off.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2012 19:56:06 GMT 3
Leaders on Tuesday criticised Monday’s reshuffle that saw Mvita MP Najib Balala sacked and two backbenchers elevated to the Cabinet. Assistant minister Lewis Nguyai and former Juja MP John Ndichu said President Kibaki should have appointed an MP from Kiambu County to replace Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta who stepped down from the Finance docket following his indictment by the International Criminal Court (ICC) in January. “I am not the appointing authority, and I will not speculate on what happened during the reshuffle, but people living in Kiambu are very concerned about the region’s exclusion,” Mr Nguyai said. The post went to Ndia MP Njeru Githae. In Mombasa, Mr Balala’s sacking was greeted with outrage by Muslims who alleged an election agreement had been breached. Two Muslim organisations declared they had severed links with Prime Minister Raila Odinga, whom they claimed had gone against a pact with the community. The National Muslims Leaders Forum (Namlef) and the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya (CIPK) said they had nullified a memorandum of understanding Muslims reportedly signed with Mr Odinga in 2007. No more support “The sacking of Najib Balala from the Cabinet is a breach of the agreement signed between Namlef and Mr Odinga. Share This Story Share Related Stories * Kilonzo transfer linked to his stand on ICC cases * Balala kicked out “The PM was to safeguard the interests of the Muslim community and ensure 20 per cent representation at all levels of the government,” said Namlef organising secretary Sheikh Mohammed Khalifa. They vowed to launch a door-to-door campaign across the country to rally Muslims against Mr Odinga. “In 2007 we moved from one house to another to urge Muslims to reject President Mwai Kibaki and support Mr Odinga and this time round it will be a reverse of that campaign,” warned Sheikh Khalifa. They also cited the sacking of former Livestock assistant minister Aden Duale as part of the PM’s campaign against the Muslim community. “We have the power, will and votes to show Raila that Muslims are not weak. He has declared war on Muslims and we shall defeat him and he knows that,” said Namlef treasurer Sheikh Hassan Omar. Similar complaints came from the Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims youth leader Hashim Kamau, who warned that Muslims would no longer support Mr Odinga. Mr Danson Mwazo replaced Mr Balala. Kisauni MP Ali Hassan Joho was appointed Transport assistant minister on Tuesday, possibly a move by the PM to calm Muslim protests over Mr Balala’s sackin www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/You+have+given+us+a+raw+deal+leaders+tell+Kibaki+and+Raila+/-/1064/1375038/-/2fjltg/-/index.html
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 28, 2012 19:57:28 GMT 3
www.kbc.co.ke/news.asp?nid=75650Balala cries foul over sacking Written By:Diana Okemwa, Posted: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 www.kbc.co.ke/images/pictures/NAJIB_009.jpg[/img]Balala who is the MP for Mvita was sacked last Monday in a major cabinet reshuffle Immediate former Tourism minister Najib Balala has accused Prime Minister Raila Odinga of betraying him, the Muslim community and the country. Balala says Raila cannot be trusted having breached the Memorandum of Understanding he signed with the Muslim community in 2007. Speaking at his residence in Kileleshwa, Balala handed over the MOU to National Muslim Leaders Forum - NAMLEF chair Abdullahi Abdi saying Muslims were misled to believe that Raila was a reformer. Balala noted that he lost his ministerial position despite his best performance because of his principles on matters of national interest. He claimed that there is no democracy in the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) advising Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi to seek a different avenue if he wants to clinch the presidency. Balala said he is making extensive consultation with various stakeholders including the Muslim community before announcing the political party he will join in the next general election. Balala who is the MP for Mvita was sacked last Monday in a major cabinet reshuffle. The MP has severed links with the PM who is the ODM party leader. He was replaced by Voi MP Danson Mwazo an ardent supporter of Raila.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 28, 2012 20:07:49 GMT 3
titchaz and phil, thanks for the clarification. i don't feel sorry for balala and his self-inflicted political problems. where is the lady (can't recall her name) who beat him in the ODM nominations (before agwambo rescued him) to deliver the final blow.
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Post by nereah on Mar 28, 2012 20:10:43 GMT 3
Hassan Joho (in glasses) and Abdullswamad Nassir (with cellphone) can someone confirm if the man seated on the right hand side of nassir junior is indeed the person i think he is.... joseph okoth waudi? an agwambo loyalist and friend to my late dad. bring back the memories of gone days as a coastarian. I believe you meant to say left hand side of Nassir Jr...and yes you are right. Hao nd'o wajaluo wa Mombasa eti...Raila damu since way back when...I think nilikua bado nakimbia uchi mtaani.... ;D haiyaa titchaz! my last encounter with okoth was at a funeral in gem over ten years ago and happy to see his chubby face. ni wazi kwamba najib hana jibu na hata wajibika. jama asha kosa thamani kaenda zake.
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 28, 2012 20:29:16 GMT 3
Sorry for interfering with the yes choir's discordant match. The fallout from the misguided sacking of Balala seems to have hurt muslims more than it could have been imagined. Very hard-hitting statements from NAMLEF and IMAMs. No wonder Joho had to be sneaked in as an after-thought. But as I have stated here before, going to bed with Joho is like courting Joe Black for a lover. www.ntv.co.ke/News/Balala+severs+links+with+ODM/-/471778/1375288/-/1440b67z/-/index.html
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 28, 2012 23:03:11 GMT 3
Sorry for interfering with the yes choir's discordant match. The fallout from the misguided sacking of Balala seems to have hurt muslims more than it could have been imagined. Very hard-hitting statements from NAMLEF and IMAMs. No wonder Joho had to be sneaked in as an after-thought. But as I have stated here before, going to bed with Joho is like courting Joe Black for a lover. www.ntv.co.ke/News/Balala+severs+links+with+ODM/-/471778/1375288/-/1440b67z/-/index.html Mwalimumkuu,This disapproving choir from a secton of balala sheep purpoting to speak for the general moslem population, is in total ignorance about how a democracy works, even a patchy one like in the near failed republic of Kenya. This is the culture of entitlement. Once appointed one cannot be sacked. No understanding of the complexity of reasons that can belie a sacking, either of Balala or a transfer as of Mutula Kilonzo. No understanding of political processes, except yammering for own peremende. I dont mind Raila being criticized, but why is it that people never have intelligent things to critisize him with? Why this outright stupidity on his opponents, whether they forge documents, lie about his ICC influence, or about his treachery? It tends to leave a lingering suspicion that these mediocres, recognize a superiority in Raila which scatters their wits, leaving only the bleat of confused sheep, unthinking and moribund. Balala claims independence? but he is on record as having said he quit ODM long ago! how can you at the same time want to stay minister, even parliamentarian, after quiting, by own confession, the party that sponsored you? he should have resigned! RESIGNED! Mwalimu do you see that simple point, which is incomprehensible to THE IDIOT BALALA and sheepish chorus around him? Balala is like an open-mouthed drunk lying on the floor of a public toilet, and wailing that someone is pissing in his mouth! Raila is a power-hungry dictator? I will grant that for EVERY POLITICIAN in the world. That is why the doctrine of separation of powers, checks and balances of institutions, and independent government bodies, evolved and is modern political practice. Politics is about power --and Kibaki is an electoral thief, and power will corrupt unless balanced. So work on the institutions instead of on the psychology of an individual. Balala is a dunderhead. And the way you continually post anti-Raila dunderheadings without a single caveat, you too are on the slippery slope to dunderheadsland!
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Post by Mobimba on Mar 28, 2012 23:07:36 GMT 3
The ODM secretariat should set the record straight (like yesterday).
Want to laugh? How about a Mudavadi-Balala ticket?
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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 28, 2012 23:37:24 GMT 3
The ODM secretariat should set the record straight (like yesterday). Want to laugh? How about a Mudavadi-Balala ticket? They should leave him alone. His is desperate for attention. Jakaswanga has said it best up there. Balala quit the ODM years ago and now he says he is severing links with ODM? Does he even understand the things he is saying or has said before. When Raila disagreed with his Ford Kenya party years ago he had the courage to quit the party and go for a by-election which he won. These cowards announce a hundred times that they have quit the parties that sponsored them to parliament and they still want to be M.Ps for the same party and cabinet ministers on the same party's ticket to enjoy all the benefits while pissing on their own party instead of building it. It is tiresome nonsense. Now Balala wants to hide under Muslims as if he owns the religion and he is the pope of Muslims. The laughable part is Balala claiming he "sacrificed" his presidential ambition in 2007. Oh Please. This man cannot win a parliamentary seat in his constituency as we speak. They want to hang on Raila's clothes day and night and have no relevance without talking about Raila. Let him take his nonsense somewhere else.
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 29, 2012 0:27:23 GMT 3
Sorry for interfering with the yes choir's discordant match. The fallout from the misguided sacking of Balala seems to have hurt muslims more than it could have been imagined. Very hard-hitting statements from NAMLEF and IMAMs. No wonder Joho had to be sneaked in as an after-thought. But as I have stated here before, going to bed with Joho is like courting Joe Black for a lover. www.ntv.co.ke/News/Balala+severs+links+with+ODM/-/471778/1375288/-/1440b67z/-/index.html Mwalimumkuu,This disapproving choir from a secton of balala sheep purpoting to speak for the general moslem population, is in total ignorance about how a democracy works, even a patchy one like in the near failed republic of Kenya. This is the culture of entitlement. Once appointed one cannot be sacked. No understanding of the complexity of reasons that can belie a sacking, either of Balala or a transfer as of Mutula Kilonzo. No understanding of political processes, except yammering for own peremende. I dont mind Raila being criticized, but why is it that people never have intelligent things to critisize him with? Why this outright stupidity on his opponents, whether they forge documents, lie about his ICC influence, or about his treachery? It tends to leave a lingering suspicion that these mediocres, recognize a superiority in Raila which scatters their wits, leaving only the bleat of confused sheep, unthinking and moribund. Balala claims independence? but he is on record as having said he quit ODM long ago! how can you at the same time want to stay minister, even parliamentarian, after quiting, by own confession, the party that sponsored you? he should have resigned! RESIGNED! Mwalimu do you see that simple point, which is incomprehensible to THE IDIOT BALALA and sheepish chorus around him? Balala is like an open-mouthed drunk lying on the floor of a public toilet, and wailing that someone is pissing in his mouth! Raila is a power-hungry dictator? I will grant that for EVERY POLITICIAN in the world. That is why the doctrine of separation of powers, checks and balances of institutions, and independent government bodies, evolved and is modern political practice. Politics is about power --and Kibaki is an electoral thief, and power will corrupt unless balanced. So work on the institutions instead of on the psychology of an individual. Balala is a dunderhead. And the way you continually post anti-Raila dunderheadings without a single caveat, you too are on the slippery slope to dunderheadsland! Jakaswanga, Adongo et al,Thanks for those who are seeing this thing for what it is and not anything else. Those bent on taking the "Aggrieved Muslims" angle don't know what the heck they are getting into. If that is the discussion the want to have, then let them have it with the Mombasa Republican Council. I will not say more on that matter for it is plain and simple na wale waliotumwa na wakuu wao waendelee na huo mjadala. Meanwhile, the Nation talks of the Agwambo meeting at Tononoka in this light.... Raila: Why I sacked Balala from Cabinet By NATION TEAM newsdesk@ke.nationmedia.com Posted Wednesday, March 28 2012 at 22:00 Former Tourism Minister Najib Balala has himself to blame for the dismissal after he repeatedly demonstrated that his political interests were outside his party, Prime Minister Raila Odinga has said. On Wednesday, Mr Odinga said the Mvita MP had refused to play as a member of an Orange Democratic Movement team. Instead, he was busy “shooting the ball towards his own goal”, in effect undermining the party’s objectives and interests, Mr Odinga said. “If your wife wants a divorce and demands it two times, three times, you give it to her. I have always said that as a party, we want to move forward as a team,” the PM said at Tononoka Grounds, which falls in the heart of Mr Balala’s constituency.“In a game of football, you shoot towards the opponent’s goal not your own,’’ the PM said when he officially launched the Cash Programme, a partly donor-funded welfare initiative meant to help the poor in urban slums. The PM’s explanation came even as Mr Balala accused him and President Kibaki of betraying Kenyans and only agreeing when it was convenient for them. Mr Balala said the two had failed to agree on matters affecting Kenyans. In what appeared to be reference to the leaders’ failure to agree on the election date, Mr Balala said that they were only “interested in their political survival”. “It is interesting that when the two want to deal with selfish interests, they sit down and agree, but when it comes to matters of national interest, they come out fighting in public,” Mr Balala said. He said he was one of the few people who spoke out on the lack of democracy within ODM. It was better to be sacked than be a sycophant of the PM, Mr Balala argued. He said he would consult with various people before announcing the political party he would join for the next General Election. At the Tononoka function, some politicians accused Mr Balala of supporting ODM rivals. Assistant ministers Hassan Joho, Seif Kajembe, Manson Nyamweya and MPs Masoud Mwahima (Likoni) and Omar Zonga (Msambweni) said Mr Balala was sacked because he was at loggerheads with his party and not because he was a Muslim.On Tuesday, a group of religious leaders said they had nullified the famous 2007 pre-election Memorandum of Understanding between Muslim leaders and Mr Odinga to protest at Mr Balala’s sacking. Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya organising secretary Sheikh Mohammed Khalifa and national treasurer Sheikh Hassan Omar accused the premier of breaching the agreement by sacking Mr Balala. They vowed to rally Muslims across the country against the Lang’ata MP. But Kenya Muslim National Advisory Council chairman Sheikh Juma Ngao and Kwale’s CIPK chairman Amir Banda said Muslims had not resolved to cut links with the PM. Speaking to the Nation by phone from Naivasha, Sheikh Ngao said Muslims had benefited little from Mr Balala’s ministerial position and nominated MP Sheikh Dor who got the positions as a result of the MoU between some Muslim groups and Mr Odinga. Mr Joho, while thanking the PM for his appointment an assistant minister, said all political leaders representing constituencies in Mombasa County were Muslims and could discharge the role of minister. Mombasa mayor Ahmed Mohdhar said Mr Balala had betrayed his party and his dismissal should be viewed from that perspective. - Reported by Mark Agutu, Oliver Mathenge, Lucas Barasa, George Kikami and Daniel Nyassy.www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Raila+Why+I+sacked+Balala+from+Cabinet+/-/1064/1375522/-/item/0/-/kbyl8f/-/index.htmlThis is Sheikh Amir Banda addressing the meeting....(take note)
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 29, 2012 1:00:30 GMT 3
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 29, 2012 1:06:47 GMT 3
The new kid on the block has caught Agwambo's attention:
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 29, 2012 1:15:54 GMT 3
Raila warming up with his line up before going into the mtaa kuongea na watu mashinani!....Kajembe on the mic.... Raila's bodyguards have some messed up grills...lol!.... ;D
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Post by Titchaz on Mar 29, 2012 1:22:36 GMT 3
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