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Post by Onyango Oloo on Mar 30, 2013 11:03:21 GMT 3
The Chief Registrar of the Judiciary has just finished addressing the media, and by extension, the entire country. Gladys Shollei has said that the Supreme Court has retreated to deliberate on its ruling. The Chief Registrar of the Judiciary said that the Supreme Court will deliver its judgment, today, Saturday, March 30, 2013 "later this afternoon", latest by 5 pm and stressed that the Supreme Court will alert all parties at least one hour in advance of the ruling which is expected to be relayed live from the Supreme Court.
Please ignore all other RUMOURS, MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION coming from other sources, including K24.I am NOT transcribing on my lap top keyboard as I watch television from my living room in Nairobi. I am among those present live here at the Media Centre. Been here the last three days and from early this morning. In the meantime, here are some interesting Tweets trickling into my account:
Dr Willy M Mutunga @wmutunga 11 Mar@pkeruya. You forget that that power given to 6 of us is derived from 40 million Kenyans, not just those who voted!
Kenya Govt Spokesman Kenya Govt Spokesman @spokesmanke 17m
Security around Supreme Court building tight: goo.gl/fb/svwn0
Vincent Chepkwony @vincechepkwony 58sGSU heavily present along Mbagathi way! Do they know what we don't? aMACus OTANIae @macotani 10mAti the Supreme Court has been sealed off with a "CRIME SCENE DO NOT CROSS" tape.....crime gani tena jamaneni? #SwalaNyetiDennis Onsarigo Dennis Onsarigo @donsarigo 1mI insist we love this country so much we can't destroy it. Kindly stop preaching peace and preach patriotism!!!!!! Isaac Ongiri @ongiri2 3mPM Raila Odinga to follow Supreme Court ruling from his office at Harambee Avenue at 3.30 pm.Michael Mumo @m_mumo 8m
Tight security around Supreme Court building
DAVID OHITO @ohitoaol 4mI went to buy petr ol in a bottle to clean my equipment at home but was turned away Reason: I could turn into a bomb!
Some Six People @kohadharoy 7mThe amount of security within and around #SupremeCourt will make one think that a Coup is about to take place!
Rob N Jillo @robjillo 14m
CITY Hall Way, section of Wabera Street barricaded by GSU personnel as the country awaits ruling on Raila’s petition by the Supreme Court
Wanjikũ™ Revolution @wanjikurevolt 5m
RT "@agutamonda A government scared of its own people to the extent of mobilizing heavily armed security for itself is illegitimate."
EssentialAfrica @essentialafrica 22m
RT @kelvinnews: Road outside #Kenya's Supreme Court closed off with tape that says 'Crime Scene Do Not Cross'..... pic.twitter.com/yupu6W3FBK
SENATOR MURKOMEN @kipmurkomen 15m
The security around Supreme Court is too tight.
Martin Muroki @olemartinezm 16m
@kipmurkomen This thing should just come and we move on
Philip Warutere Philip Warutere @pstwarutere 13m
@kipmurkomen tight security is meant to stop @ukenyatta and @railaodinga from a physical brawl outside SCORK otherwise Kenyans are peaceful.
Rodgers Esekon Rodgers Esekon @ngunyi_wannabe 10m
Some powerful men can buy,threaten #theSixPeople for justice @kipmurkomenphilemon kandie philemon kandie @philemonkandie 6m @kipmurkomen yeah,hooliganism has no place.
isaac tuei @iktuei 21m
Bensouda rejects Uhuru, Ruto video link appearances ow.ly/1UhrTl #KenyaDecides #ICC
Tribe 42 Tribe 42 @crazykenyan_ 4m >> RT @makodingo #nw Nikita. Alert me when the GSU go back to whatever it is they do when they're not intimidating Kenyans
joe wamiti @joewamiti123 6m @wanjikurevolt @wmutunga
i trust you have the will of the people of kenya in heart.frederick okango @fokango 6m
You are all reminded that In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith. #PresidentialPetition
Mutisya Leonard @mutisyal 17 MarThe KE media's self retraint reveals a Society terrified by its own capacity for violence. -Michela Wrong #KeElections13 #MediaCredibility
Binyavanga Wainaina @binyavangaw 51s
whatever happens this afternoon, we move forward painfully into a pimply and promising adolescence. Lets manage these hormones well.
Onyango Oloo
Jukwaa Administrator
Supreme Court Media Centre
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 11:49:05 GMT 3
The Chief Registrar of the Judiciary has just finished addressing the media, and by extension, the entire country. Gladys Shollei has said that the Supreme Court has retreated to deliberate on its ruling. The Chief Registrar of the Judiciary said that the Supreme Court will deliver its judgment, today, Saturday, March 30, 2013 "later this afternoon", latest by 5 pm and stressed that the Supreme Court will alert all parties at least one hour in advance of the ruling which is expected to be relayed live from the Supreme Court.
Please ignore all other RUMOURS, MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION coming from other sources, including K24 to the country.I am NOT transcribing on my keyboards as I watch television from my living room in Nairobi. I am among those present live here at the Media Centre. Been here the last three days and from early this morning. In the meantime, here are some interesting Tweets trickling into my account:
EssentialAfrica @essentialafrica 22m
RT @kelvinnews: Road outside #Kenya's Supreme Court closed off with tape that says 'Crime Scene Do Not Cross'..... pic.twitter.com/yupu6W3FBK
SENATOR MURKOMEN @kipmurkomen 15m
The security around Supreme Court is too tight.
Martin Muroki @olemartinezm 16m
@kipmurkomen This thing should just come and we move on
Philip Warutere Philip Warutere @pstwarutere 13m
@kipmurkomen tight security is meant to stop @ukenyatta and @railaodinga from a physical brawl outside SCORK otherwise Kenyans are peaceful.
Rodgers Esekon Rodgers Esekon @ngunyi_wannabe 10m
Some powerful men can buy,threaten #theSixPeople for justice @kipmurkomenphilemon kandie philemon kandie @philemonkandie 6m @kipmurkomen yeah,hooliganism has no place.
isaac tuei @iktuei 21m
Bensouda rejects Uhuru, Ruto video link appearances ow.ly/1UhrTl #KenyaDecides #ICC
Tribe 42 Tribe 42 @crazykenyan_ 4m >> RT @makodingo #nw Nikita. Alert me when the GSU go back to whatever it is they do when they're not intimidating Kenyans
joe wamiti @joewamiti123 6m @wanjikurevolt @wmutunga
i trust you have the will of the people of kenya in heart.frederick okango @fokango 6m
You are all reminded that In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith. #PresidentialPetition
Mutisya Leonard @mutisyal 17 MarThe KE media's self retraint reveals a Society terrified by its own capacity for violence. -Michela Wrong #KeElections13 #MediaCredibility
Onyango Oloo
Jukwaa Administrator
Supreme Court Media Centre
Nairobi, KenyaAi, Oloo, we just watched Frank Otieno of KTN and his camera man turn the roving eye around the plexus, and we have seen is a SIEGE! THE GSU, in combat gear, and other police regulars have sealed off streets, armed and dogs of terror at hand. Oloo, we have seen military take-overs of African or Latin American cities before. Enforcing a curfew after a coup or an attempted coup! THIS IS A PERFECT PICTURE OF THE KNOWN! I am watching dead Nairobi streets on a saturday morning! Who is doing the propaganda here? |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 12:33:35 GMT 3
In the meantime, here are some interesting Tweets trickling into my account:
Dr Willy M Mutunga @wmutunga 11 Mar@pkeruya. You forget that that power given to 6 of us is derived from 40 million Kenyans, not just those who voted!
, the CJ is wrong on this. The power given to the 6 is derived from the 67% who voted for the new constitution in 2010 (of which I should add, I was one, albeit with minor reservations). His logic extended to the 2013 presidential election would translate the 6.1 million who voted for Uhuruto as speaking for the 40 million plus Kenyans....I don't think so, as is evidently clear even on this board on a daily basis. Winner takes all, isn't the best of systems, but it's what we have accepted to live & abide by...petitions notwithstanding ;D |
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Mar 30, 2013 14:23:55 GMT 3
b6k:
Willy has the right to express his opinion. You have a right to express yours. Or do you want to send me an "EDITED" version of Willy Mutunga's original tweet from you of HIS comment so that I email it to him so that he can retweet it while acknowledging your role in allegedly transforming Willy Mutunga into a WISER Chief Justice?
Onyango Oloo
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 14:39:12 GMT 3
In the meantime, here are some interesting Tweets trickling into my account:
Dr Willy M Mutunga @wmutunga 11 Mar@pkeruya. You forget that that power given to 6 of us is derived from 40 million Kenyans, not just those who voted!
, the CJ is wrong on this. The power given to the 6 is derived from the 67% who voted for the new constitution in 2010 (of which I should add, I was one, albeit with minor reservations). His logic extended to the 2013 presidential election would translate the 6.1 million who voted for Uhuruto as speaking for the 40 million plus Kenyans....I don't think so, as is evidently clear even on this board on a daily basis. Winner takes all, isn't the best of systems, but it's what we have accepted to live & abide by...petitions notwithstanding ;D boy aren't you woken up hot this day! dead-shot sniper day for you! In a gambling casino they would throw you out for tending toward bankrupting the house! Mutunga is reasoning with his ars-e. When we consider that the chief duty of the 10th parliament was to butcher, dismember and mutilate the constitution and bury her spirit, [examples galore], we can even extrapolate with sustainable deductive finesse, that of the 67% who voted for the constitution, a sizable portion would now withdraw their support, looking at the carcass that now remains after the killing of her spirit, the killing Raila and Kibaki have presided over, with CJ Mutunga himself in office! Oloo, On highly important issues to Kenya, Mutunga never really impresses with the quality of his mental keenness. His reasoning catches sense like a sigol catches omena. [that is fishing for sardines with a net whose holes are the size of a nyama-choma sing'enge's].he has a right to express his opinions, but when you are a scholar and the CJ under transition circumstances, if your opinions tend to be provenly stupid, it does zero to inspire confidence in your abilities to Solomonise a situation. It is the curse of raised expectations that are dashed, the naked moment ka ohodho olimo bwoch! in Sembene Ousmane terminology. |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 15:27:43 GMT 3
b6k:
Willy has the right to express his opinion. You have a right to express yours. Or do you want to send me an "EDITED" version of Willy Mutunga's original tweet from you of HIS comment so that I email it to him so that he can retweet it while acknowledging your role in allegedly transforming Willy Mutunga into a WISER Chief Justice?
Onyango Oloo , let me borrow from our learned friends & say, with tremendous respect, your rejoinder comes across as rather harsh to yours truly. This may be due to the fact that not only are you a close friend of the CJ, as you have numerously recounted here & elsewhere, but are also the admin of Jukwaa. That said, opinions are like a certain part of the human anatomy....everybody has one. Mutunga, being the CJ, doesn't have a cleaner one than mine, nor is it necessarily a holier one...it's just his opinion. That said, lest I face sanctions on the board for merely airing my....opinion, I will reserve any more comments about the CJ until after the ruling. Shalom.... |
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Post by nok on Mar 30, 2013 15:32:17 GMT 3
Ruling at 4:30 p.m
correction !!
Lawyers must be seated by 4:45 p.m and ruling at 5:00 pm
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 15:32:19 GMT 3
OO, the CJ is wrong on this. The power given to the 6 is derived from the 67% who voted for the new constitution in 2010 (of which I should add, I was one, albeit with minor reservations). His logic extended to the 2013 presidential election would translate the 6.1 million who voted for Uhuruto as speaking for the 40 million plus Kenyans....I don't think so, as is evidently clear even on this board on a daily basis. Winner takes all, isn't the best of systems, but it's what we have accepted to live & abide by...petitions notwithstanding ;D boy aren't you woken up hot this day! dead-shot sniper day for you! In a gambling casino they would throw you out for tending toward bankrupting the house! Mutunga is reasoning with his ars-e. When we consider that the chief duty of the 10th parliament was to butcher, dismember and mutilate the constitution and bury her spirit, [examples galore], we can even extrapolate with sustainable deductive finesse, that of the 67% who voted for the constitution, a sizable portion would now withdraw their support, looking at the carcass that now remains after the killing of her spirit, the killing Raila and Kibaki have presided over, with CJ Mutunga himself in office! Oloo, On highly important issues to Kenya, Mutunga never really impresses with the quality of his mental keenness. His reasoning catches sense like a sigol catches omena. [that is fishing for sardines with a net whose holes are the size of a nyama-choma sing'enge's].he has a right to express his opinions, but when you are a scholar and the CJ under transition circumstances, if your opinions tend to be provenly stupid, it does zero to inspire confidence in your abilities to Solomonise a situation. It is the curse of raised expectations that are dashed, the naked moment ka ohodho olimo bwoch! in Sembene Ousmane terminology. , back in the day when I was a resident of NJ, I mastered the art of going to Atlantic City & hitting the casinos. I would play a couple of cheap rounds at the slot machines, but never let the buxom waitresses pass by without depositing a free drink by my side. Needless to say I would have a pretty decent buzz going by the end of the night, at the expense of the house, having spent $5 to 10 max ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by mank on Mar 30, 2013 17:10:25 GMT 3
We have been thrown into a blackout just at the peak of the moment.
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Post by Daktari wa makazi on Mar 30, 2013 17:12:38 GMT 3
Raila's petition dismissed, in its entire totality.
Uhuru who was declared President-elect, to be sworn as the President.
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 17:14:03 GMT 3
Raila's petition dismissed, in its entire totality. Uhuru who was declared President-elect, to be sworn as the President. Sadik, it was inevitable from the day Uhuru held the IEBC certificate it was OVER..... |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 30, 2013 17:33:01 GMT 3
Raila's petition dismissed, in its entire totality. Uhuru who was declared President-elect, to be sworn as the President. Sadik, it was inevitable from the day Uhuru held the IEBC certificate it was OVER..... B6k, I would say it was over after the registration process in Dec-2012 and it was just a matter of time for UhuRuto to be declared President and Deputy -President. The Former Prime-Minister is about to address the Nation -Lets be patient and listen to what he will say . More after that |
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 17:35:03 GMT 3
Raila's petition dismissed, in its entire totality. Uhuru who was declared President-elect, to be sworn as the President. As man Mank once told me on a certain point in a thread about %s in opinion polls, that that was a moment when his econometric glands salivated, this ruling is the kind of moment which excites my historical glands to foam, more like the tender parts of Venus the goddess of love when she has a mind to lay. He President elect, is an ICC indictee. The constitution talks of Integrity! Mutunga is the reform CJ who must swear him in. [Part of] the West warned of consequences if he becomes president. But yes, he will be sworn in, legally, openly! HE IS LEGIT! What will the forces against iT do? The Kenyan public have handed everyone of us a hot potato! The history of Kenya is STEAMING hot! It will be worth studying. And writing about even as Shakespearean drama. Because rest assured folks. Behind in the long shadows of political power play, long knives are leaving sheaths. And thud they need must unto soft tissue! Seat belts lest we spin. I pesa my position now. I will be in the opposition. Businessmen I suggest, if you come from Luoland, you start asking for Onyango Oloos numbers! ;D Political mercenaries, please jump ship to the winning side if you haven't yet. With the highest court in the land behind him, the two houses his, Muthamaki Kenyatta can now emerge, and as history shows, power does corrupt men. I will bet on it. Being a Roman too, today I congratulate him on a coup well executed. Does not mean I wouldn't celebrate his execution. We are Romans, and our breath is death! Our politics blood, and our justice sword. It is just the way of our world. Men. |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 17:41:00 GMT 3
Sadik, it was inevitable from the day Uhuru held the IEBC certificate it was OVER..... B6k, I would say it was over after the registration process in Dec-2012 and it was just a matter of time for UhuRuto to be declared President and Deputy -President. The Former Prime-Minister is about to address the Nation -Lets be patient and listen to what he will say . More after that , I beg to differ. As I said on another thread, the election victory hinged on voter turnout. By pegging your victory on voter registration your argument is as spurious as Raila's which was based on poll results leading up to the elections. You can have all the millions in the register (whether it's the principle register, the special register, or the green book). However, if they do not turn out to vote on election day, you are as sunk as Raila has sunk today.... |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 17:45:09 GMT 3
Raila's petition dismissed, in its entire totality. Uhuru who was declared President-elect, to be sworn as the President. As man Mank once told me on a certain point in a thread about %s in opinion polls, that that was a moment when his econometric glands salivated, this ruling is the kind of moment which excites my historical glands to foam, more like the tender parts of Venus the goddess of love when she has a mind to lay. He President elect, is an ICC indictee. The constitution talks of Integrity! Mutunga is the reform CJ who must swear him in. [Part of] the West warned of consequences if he becomes president. But yes, he will be sworn in, legally, openly! HE IS LEGIT! What will the forces against iT do? The Kenyan public have handed everyone of us a hot potato! The history of Kenya is STEAMING hot! It will be worth studying. And writing about even as Shakespearean drama. Because rest assured folks. Behind in the long shadows of political power play, long knives are leaving sheaths. And thud they need must unto soft tissue! Seat belts lest we spin. I pesa my position now. I will be in the opposition. Businessmen I suggest, if you come from Luoland, you start asking for Onyango Oloos numbers! ;D Political mercenaries, please jump ship to the winning side if you haven't yet. With the highest court in the land behind him, the two houses his, Muthamaki Kenyatta can now emerge, and as history shows, power does corrupt men. I will bet on it. Being a Roman too, today I congratulate him on a coup well executed. Does not mean I wouldn't celebrate his execution. We are Romans, and our breath is death! Our politics blood, and our justice sword. It is just the way of our world. Men. , the high court of KE & the Supreme Court (unanimously!) of KE have both given Uhuru a clean bill of health. Let us see what the ICC, a court which some still believe in, will do with his now "strengthened" case once they added gunshots to the charges..... |
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 17:58:53 GMT 3
B6k, I would say it was over after the registration process in Dec-2012 and it was just a matter of time for UhuRuto to be declared President and Deputy -President. The Former Prime-Minister is about to address the Nation -Lets be patient and listen to what he will say . More after that , I beg to differ. As I said on another thread, the election victory hinged on voter turnout. By pegging your victory on voter registration your argument is as spurious as Raila's which was based on poll results leading up to the elections. You can have all the millions in the register (whether it's the principle register, the special register, or the green book). However, if they do not turn out to vote on election day, you are as sunk as Raila has sunk today.... b6k, As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked. The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner! They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase. |
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Post by Horth on Mar 30, 2013 18:08:13 GMT 3
b6k, As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked. The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner! They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase.Too true. I voted for Uhuru in 2002 but lost faith in him after the 2007 "selections". But I have to admire his organizational skills. |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 30, 2013 18:27:02 GMT 3
B6k, I would say it was over after the registration process in Dec-2012 and it was just a matter of time for UhuRuto to be declared President and Deputy -President. The Former Prime-Minister is about to address the Nation -Lets be patient and listen to what he will say . More after that , I beg to differ. As I said on another thread, the election victory hinged on voter turnout. By pegging your victory on voter registration your argument is as spurious as Raila's which was based on poll results leading up to the elections. You can have all the millions in the register (whether it's the principle register, the special register, or the green book). However, if they do not turn out to vote on election day, you are as sunk as Raila has sunk today.... B6K, I agree with you voter turnout is a factor in an election victory. Maybe to drive my point home I will point out the major and the starting point to an election victory is the registration exercise and from the results of that exercise one can gauge on how 1.The voter turnout will be 2.The election outcome. Voter registration outcome is an indicator of how the electorate is energized and has a direct relation to the voter turnout i.e. areas where the there were signs of voter apathy are the areas which will have low voter turnout during the elections and vice versa for areas which showed enthusiasm during the voter registration exercise. Unlike "scientific" polls which are conducted by private entities the registration exercise is conducted by the electoral body and is part and parcel of the electioneering process and thus would be more reliable in affirming ones concern. Politicians can use the registration exercise results to know if they are on the right path i.e. strategically and campaignewise . Suffice to say with high voter registration in jubilee STRONGHOLDS it affirmed the Jubilee team that their campaigns which started in 2009 (mind you) had yielded fruits and that they were on the right path . From the election registration data and which were confirmed with the just concluded election results even a 10% advantage difference in voter turnout in CORD strongholds could not bring a Raila win. Ask yourself these questions . Why Raila was a troubled man in the run-up to election pointing out that there was going to be rigging and violence. Why Kalonzo had to sneak his name in the nomination list Why Muthama became irrational all over a sudden and tried to play the tribal card. After the elections why Raila was not for an idea of runn-off but was hoping for a Nusu makate scenario . |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 18:42:25 GMT 3
Nowayhaha, I beg to differ. As I said on another thread, the election victory hinged on voter turnout. By pegging your victory on voter registration your argument is as spurious as Raila's which was based on poll results leading up to the elections. You can have all the millions in the register (whether it's the principle register, the special register, or the green book). However, if they do not turn out to vote on election day, you are as sunk as Raila has sunk today.... B6K, I agree with you voter turnout is a factor in an election victory. Maybe to drive my point home I will point out the major and the starting point to an election victory is the registration exercise and from the results of that exercise one can gauge on how 1.The voter turnout will be 2.The election outcome. Voter registration outcome is an indicator of how the electorate is energized and has a direct relation to the voter turnout i.e. areas where the there were signs of voter apathy are the areas which will have low voter turnout during the elections and vice versa for areas which showed enthusiasm during the voter registration exercise. Unlike "scientific" polls which are conducted by private entities the registration exercise is conducted by the electoral body and is part and parcel of the electioneering process and thus would be more reliable in affirming ones concern. Politicians can use the registration exercise results to know if they are on the right path i.e. strategically and campaignewise . Suffice to say with high voter registration in jubilee STRONGHOLDS it affirmed the Jubilee team that their campaigns which started in 2009 (mind you) had yielded fruits and that they were on the right path . From the election registration data and which were confirmed with the just concluded election results even a 10% advantage difference in voter turnout in CORD strongholds could not bring a Raila win. Ask yourself these questions . Why Raila was a troubled man in the run-up to election pointing out that there was going to be rigging and violence. Why Kalonzo had to sneak his name in the nomination list Why Muthama became irrational all over a sudden and tried to play the tribal card. After the elections why Raila was not for an idea of runn-off but was hoping for a Nusu makate scenario . , now you have spoken. An election process is a lot more complicated than it seems. Just seen Raila's concession speech that had some jibes to his competitor. At the end of the day, the ountry & the state, must move on.... |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 18:52:51 GMT 3
Nowayhaha, I beg to differ. As I said on another thread, the election victory hinged on voter turnout. By pegging your victory on voter registration your argument is as spurious as Raila's which was based on poll results leading up to the elections. You can have all the millions in the register (whether it's the principle register, the special register, or the green book). However, if they do not turn out to vote on election day, you are as sunk as Raila has sunk today.... b6k, As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked. The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner! They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase. , now that's what I call realpolitik. Don't expect your hommies to accept you as a prophet though. More likely than not you will be run out of town, next time you venture into Nyalgunga ;D I am still surprised Uhuru actually pulled it off. A few months ago those prayer rallies looked as ridiculous as anything I have ever seen. However we have since seen an election victory at the heels of a crumbling of the ICC cases that brought about those ridiculous prayer rallies in the first place. Like you, I will stay very much in the opposition, however glad I may be that he has sent into oblivion the most duplicitous politician in KE who successfully managed to cover himself in the garb of democracy, good governance, yadda yadda yadda. Now that the mysterious one is defeated, the great work commences to bring down muthamaki. As always, start with the weak link  |
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 18:53:56 GMT 3
Nowayhaha, now you have spoken. An election process is a lot more complicated than it seems. Just seen Raila's concession speech that had some jibes to his competitor. At the end of the day, the ountry & the state, must move on.... Yes, he has pulled the thunder out of the air. But I cannot hide the fact that as I watched the speech, it is William Ruto I was thinking of. Trying to see the situation from his lens. I mean Ruto must already be scheming how to 'inherit' some of the now orphaned voters of Luoland, for his own eventual run later. If all he was doing was enjoying Raila's discomfort and humiliation, then he is a boy who has not been told the secret of combat. All warriors die some time. Always honour a falling one. You too will fall. That is combat, and life. |
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Post by mank on Mar 30, 2013 18:58:09 GMT 3
b6k, As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked. The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner! They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase.
Too true.
I voted for Uhuru in 2002 but lost faith in him after the 2007 "selections". But I have to admire his organizational skills.Organizational skills he may sure have. But he should also make it a point of writing a THANK YOU letter, or a SHAME On YOU letter to Ocampo. ... those are just two versions of the same document, styled by the author's attitude to diplomacy in the particular exchange. |
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 30, 2013 19:01:23 GMT 3
b6k, As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked. The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner! They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase.Too true. I voted for Uhuru in 2002 but lost faith in him after the 2007 "selections". But I have to admire his organizational skills. Well Horth, with my brother in law Omwenga preaching Raila could win without the Kalenjins, you will have to wonder if it is not the company Raila kept that lost him the election! |
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Post by mank on Mar 30, 2013 19:21:19 GMT 3
b6k,
As a genuine Jaluo for once, this is what I told my hommies. Ruto is the most formidable man of his generation. If Raila can not bring him into our tent, we are fwacked.
The other option was too steep. Be a genuine reformer and talk to Wanjiku without a forked tongue. But that would have involved getting rid of all his court! an impossibility. So I said: the key is William Ruto. Ruto and Raila [colloquial Double R team] is a dream team. Corrupt to the bone, but a vote winner!
They wouldn't listen so I became principled and went to Martha. ;D
Obviously Uhuru Kenyatta had better killer instincts and cut down to the chase.
Jakaswanga, now that's what I call realpolitik. Don't expect your hommies to accept you as a prophet though. More likely than not you will be run out of town, next time you venture into Nyalgunga ;D
I am still surprised Uhuru actually pulled it off. A few months ago those prayer rallies looked as ridiculous as anything I have ever seen. However we have since seen an election victory at the heels of a crumbling of the ICC cases that brought about those ridiculous prayer rallies in the first place.
Like you, I will stay very much in the opposition, however glad I may be that he has sent into oblivion the most duplicitous politician in KE who successfully managed to cover himself in the garb of democracy, good governance, yadda yadda yadda.
Now that the mysterious one is defeated, the great work commences to bring down muthamaki. As always, start with the weak link True, true. Jakaswanga has rendered himself urbanite ... and he might have to disguise his address and identity now. You said " A few months ago those prayer rallies looked as ridiculous as anything I have ever seen. ...." Reminds me when the Terminator ran for the Governor of California. It was difficult to watch his debates .... I would share the embarrassment. Then toward the election someone started to emerge ... the rest is history! I think Uhuru will be an easy one to dress down. I think he's got some surprises waiting for him because he goes dishing out promises he won't be allowed to keep. But his biggest challenge will of course be that ICC. He must think about that Skype idea that Raila gave him, and how he would contain the political pot if he actually had to be "too tied" somewhere in the Netherlands for even a couple of weeks. I can imagine calls for impeachment would be heard, and even the numbers that Jubilee has could be at risk of shuffling. The ball returns to the Hague court. |
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Post by b6k on Mar 30, 2013 19:29:46 GMT 3
Nowayhaha, now you have spoken. An election process is a lot more complicated than it seems. Just seen Raila's concession speech that had some jibes to his competitor. At the end of the day, the ountry & the state, must move on.... Yes, he has pulled the thunder out of the air. But I cannot hide the fact that as I watched the speech, it is William Ruto I was thinking of. Trying to see the situation from his lens. I mean Ruto must already be scheming how to 'inherit' some of the now orphaned voters of Luoland, for his own eventual run later. If all he was doing was enjoying Raila's discomfort and humiliation, then he is a boy who has not been told the secret of combat. All warriors die some time. Always honour a falling one. You too will fall. That is combat, and life. Indeed that was less a concession speech than a show of defiance. It doesn't look like Agwambo is going into retirement soon. As for Ruto, he finds himself in a very unique position. He was Uhuru's shield in the elections but also remains his Achilles heel. As I don't have any powers of prophecy, I can only wait to see how this relationship plays out to its logical conclusion.... |
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