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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 21, 2011 11:13:33 GMT 3
Reading btwn the lines. Miguna has looked at the longterm He is positioning himself to inherit Railas political base (Not necessarily the Luo Political base)I.e. 1.In an event Raila doesnt become the President of Kenya (He apparently strongly believes so) 2.In an event on the demise of Raila and his empire .(Not in a bad taste).He has analyzed that there is no strong Raila relative,aide,e.t.c. Who can acquire that mantle the way Raila acquired Jaramogis ,Masindes and Matibas
Conclusion -People should be wary on writing him off . We have Ruto's Blueprint out here. When Ruto was going against the grain (Read Moi and Kanu) back then in Circa 97-99 People though he could not amount to anything .But look at it now Ruto had seen 15 years and crafted his journey well.
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 21, 2011 10:37:24 GMT 3
At the instigation of Eugene Wamalwa and Bonny Khalwale, today AFC Leopards fans caused premature end of Gor-AFC match with the former leading one nil. This was the Mahujaa day Cup cum a KFL semi final match. www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000045269&cid=38After a lengthy period of keeping off local matches Raila, accompanied by Musalia and Nairobi Mayor George Aladwa were at Nyayo Stadium to witness Kogalo take on Ingwe. It was not to be. It's been a long time since yours trully had a taste of tear gas but today it just had to happen because AFC Leopard fans caused abandonment of an otherwise thoroughly entertaining and well attended match. What a pity! Khalwale was seen throwing stones and encouraging his friends to do likewise. Unfortunately one of the stones caught an AFC player who had to rushed to hospital with a serious head injury. Meanwhile, after the usual teargas, we were at Birongo Square buying drinks for those who stonned us. We are not die hard Ko'galo fans but we can afford a drink or two for our semejis, in-laws or mukhwasis. Teargas fumes brought back the million man match memories. ;D And we thought football fans had come of age! Phil , Trying to spin the narrative? The truth is Gor fans started intimidating the AFC fans once the goal was scored which led to the melee . Trying to invoke the name of Khalwale and Wamalwa who received an arousing welcome from the Ingwe fans wont work . This is pure propaganda . Why didnt you mention the Ruto chants by Ingwe fans ? Especially to the Motorcade of Raila -Honestly speaking it had alot of people surprised .
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 15, 2011 13:43:52 GMT 3
That, the Ambudho fellow at Infotrack is the biggest joke in town is not in dispute, not with such cooked up figures. The thinking here is to elevate Martha and Peter Ken so as to hoodwink central, then bring Ruto down in both central and RV to hoodwing RV. It is really a big sham if you asked me, and a big shame that fellows can choose to turn research on its head like this. I have never carried out an opinion poll but my own look at the electoral map with my naked eyes tells me that Raila cannot muster more than 30% of the total vote. Infact since the Maasais started gravitating around Ruto and Saitoti, his numbers have dropped to around 26%. But since the fellows want to feel good, we can only wish them well and meet them kwa 'tepe' as Bifwoli Wakoli would say. Exactly - Let them run a poll in central province today pitting Uhuru Vs Peter Muhuni Kenneth and Martha Wangari Karua - and lets see the results wont be like 94 % to Uhuru 4% To Martha and 2 % to Peter
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 15, 2011 12:53:41 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 14, 2011 17:33:00 GMT 3
Destiny, I hear you & concur. '07 Raila was the man. 2012, let's try something new (although the polls today have him at 41%). I also watched Kenneth in the morning & I'm inclined to drop my "no candidate from Central in 2012" for this man. If he can get the right running mate he may just be what we need to go to the next level. Peter Kenneth has been running away and selling his presidential aspirations with the" myth" of his development record back in his constituency Gatanga - but truth be told in as much as Gatanga ranks up there as one of the best constituency with a well managed C.D.F. kitty It is one of the most underdeveloped constituency with poverty ranking high , youth being undereducated and jobless thus resulting to alcoholism which is a real cancer in the constituency not to mention almost 80 % of constituents live without electricity and tapped water . Once the campaign trail starts- the truth will come out . Peter Kenneth even at moment if he decides to run for Gatanga Parliamentary sit wont be able to reclaim the sit. In as much as Gatanga has been placed in the former Muranga County .It is well known to be in Thika the backyard of Uhuru Kenyatta .
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 11, 2011 9:25:07 GMT 3
G7 Alliance vows to hold together till 2012 In Summary * Ruto and Wamalwa condemn Lugari MP for ‘speaking on their behalf’ Lugari MP Cyrus Jirongo on Monday came under attack from leaders of the G7 alliance for dismissing the grouping. The leaders of the G7 alliance vowed to stick together ahead of 2012 elections and dismissed claims that it will disintegrate before the polls. Speaking in Kebura Nchogu Primary school in South Mugirango Constituency, the alliance led by Eldoret North MP William Ruto, Mr Eugene Wamalwa (Saboti), Mr Isaac Ruto (Chepalungu) and former South Mugirango MP Omingo Magara said their alliance will form the next government. The MPs said they have not appointed anybody to speak on their behalf terming Lugari MP Cyrus Jirongo’s remarks as “outrageous”. (READ: I have quit G7 Alliance, says Jirongo) “Who is Jirongo to speak on behalf of G7 Alliance, when was he appointed the party’s spokesperson?” posed Chepalungu MP. On Sunday Mr Jirongo claimed that G7 will disintegrate ahead of next elections and that some members of the alliance were President Kibaki’s project of succession politics. The Eldoret MP expressed optimism that their alliance will make the next government claiming that the country needs leaders who are not out to serve their selfish interests. Selfish interests “The G7 have agreed to trade above selfish interests because of the unity of Kenyans across the border, not what an individual will gain out of leadership,” said Mr Ruto. Separately, Immigration Minister Otieno Kajwang’ poured cold water on G7 alliance terming it as “a basket full of busybodies which has reached dead end”. Mr Kajwang’ said the political groupings of G-7 and PNU alliances were busy going round the same circle due to panic at ODM. “There is too much smoke coming out from their kitchen with very little cooking going on,” he said. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/G7+Alliance+vows+to+hold+together+till+2012+/-/1064/1253454/-/x6t7tw/-/index.html
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 11, 2011 9:23:32 GMT 3
G7 Alliance vows to hold together till 2012 In Summary * Ruto and Wamalwa condemn Lugari MP for ‘speaking on their behalf’ Lugari MP Cyrus Jirongo on Monday came under attack from leaders of the G7 alliance for dismissing the grouping. The leaders of the G7 alliance vowed to stick together ahead of 2012 elections and dismissed claims that it will disintegrate before the polls. Speaking in Kebura Nchogu Primary school in South Mugirango Constituency, the alliance led by Eldoret North MP William Ruto, Mr Eugene Wamalwa (Saboti), Mr Isaac Ruto (Chepalungu) and former South Mugirango MP Omingo Magara said their alliance will form the next government. The MPs said they have not appointed anybody to speak on their behalf terming Lugari MP Cyrus Jirongo’s remarks as “outrageous”. (READ: I have quit G7 Alliance, says Jirongo) “Who is Jirongo to speak on behalf of G7 Alliance, when was he appointed the party’s spokesperson?” posed Chepalungu MP. On Sunday Mr Jirongo claimed that G7 will disintegrate ahead of next elections and that some members of the alliance were President Kibaki’s project of succession politics. The Eldoret MP expressed optimism that their alliance will make the next government claiming that the country needs leaders who are not out to serve their selfish interests. Selfish interests “The G7 have agreed to trade above selfish interests because of the unity of Kenyans across the border, not what an individual will gain out of leadership,” said Mr Ruto. Separately, Immigration Minister Otieno Kajwang’ poured cold water on G7 alliance terming it as “a basket full of busybodies which has reached dead end”. Mr Kajwang’ said the political groupings of G-7 and PNU alliances were busy going round the same circle due to panic at ODM. “There is too much smoke coming out from their kitchen with very little cooking going on,” he said. www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/G7+Alliance+vows+to+hold+together+till+2012+/-/1064/1253454/-/x6t7tw/-/index.html
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 10, 2011 18:19:50 GMT 3
G7 plots 2012 strategy in Kampala hotel G7 leaders Kalonzo Musyoka, William Ruto and Eugene Wamalwa held a strategy meeting in Kampala on Saturday night. The three and a group of MPs allied to them trooped back to the Sheraton Hotel after the Harambee Stars match to deliberate on their unity. They took advantage of the Stars versus Uganda Cranes match to meet away from home in the wake of media reports depicting their disunity. Kalonzo sponsored more than 10 buses to ferry Kenyan fans to Kampala while Ruto had sponsored three. But as Prime Minister Raila Odinga rushed to Entebbe Airport en route to Norway, his rivals retreated to their hotel room to strategise on how to defeat him in next years general election. MPs present were Johnstone Muthama, Victor Munyaka, David Langat and a group of their supporters who had travelled to Kampala. According to one of those who attended the meeting, Kalonzo and Ruto reaffirmed their commitment to the G7 Alliance. They particularly stressed on the need to hold public rallies together to assure their supporters that they still working together. “Of course, there have been doubts from within and without, but tonight the leaders have vehemently vowed to work together,” the source added. The G7, according to insiders, is planning countrywide rallies to popularise their alliance, but at the same time the leaders will hold individual rallies for their parties. They are also said to have resolved to lobby for support both in the country and abroad by talking to world leaders and Kenyans in the diaspora. After the meeting, the leaders who appeared jovial, emerged from their hotel and drove straight in a convoy to attend a dinner hosted by the Kenyan Embassy for the Stars. Yesterday, Kalonzo sent a message to Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni whom he met before attending Ugandan Independence Day celebrations in the Northern town of Lira. The Uganda President is said to be comfortable working with the group and has in the past met the leaders separately. “We told him to assure Museveni that our alliance is formidable and is determined to win next year’s election,” another source who was at the meeting said. Today (Monday) Kalonzo will hold a public lecture at the Makerere University about the benefits of a strong political federation for East Africa. During the dinner Kalonzo hosted for the Stars team on Saturday night, he pledged to give them Sh500,000. He also promised to reward goalkeeper Arnold Origi an unspecified reward for his excellent display that ensured the Stars did not concede any goals. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/43784-g7-in-kampla-strategy-meeting
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 10, 2011 14:22:11 GMT 3
Ruto says his relationship with Kalonzo is okay Eldoret North MP William Ruto yesterday refuted claims that there were rifts in their political alliance, the G7. The MP said his relationship with Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka and other other members of the alliance was intact. Ruto who was responding to reports that he was not ready to work with Kalonzo dismissed the allegations saying the alliance would soon conduct nationwide rallies to affirm their relationship. "My relationship with Kalonzo is good. By taking different routes during campaigns does not mean that we are having differences," said the MP who was adressing journalists during a tree planting season at the University of Nairobi, Kabete Campus. Hev said G7 alliance is ushing a common goal and whoever wins the nomination, he would get support of the rest. He said he was confident that G7 will form the next government and said those expecting a break up were doomed to fail. "This is an alliance to watch.We have everything in place and we are prepared to take the leadership of this country," he said. Separately, ODM-K member of parliment Mohamed Affey supported Ruto's call saying the VP had never crossed ways with Ruto. Speaking to Star on phone, Affey who is a nominated MP dismissed the reports as rumours. "The VP had a meeting with Ruto afew days ago and I believe they were strategising on how to hold joint rallies when Uhuru returns back. That is not the right position." He said those who were spreading the rumours are their competitors who are already panicking. www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/43681-ruto-says-his-relationship-with-kalonzo-is-okay
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 10, 2011 11:15:44 GMT 3
The fact he had to go to Othaya (and not Uhuru Park for instance) speaks volumes. More Kenyans have been killed for political reasons during his reign than for any other president. More Kenyans have been displaced and rendered homeless during his reign than for any other president. The constitution reform was something that was actually forced on him through NARA and he never had any plans to deliver a new constitution to Kenya. Hi cabinet is the largest and most corrupt since independence and the first lady ladies give Kenyans very little comfort. The country has been attacked more by armed militia during his time than during any other president and he as the CiC has done absolutely nothing to protect Kenyans. Kenya's territory is occupied by foreigners as we speak, something that was unthinkable during Kenyatta's or Moi's time. The biggest scam of our times happened during his watch and was executed by his close associates - protected by his close friend former KACC Director Justice Ringera. Yes, he can retire a happy man. Kenyans will breath a sigh of relief to see him go. What a liability he has been for the last 10 years. In the same venom can you also list his achievements vis a vis the achievements of former presidents . In your" facts" above you have failed to list the fact that it was Raila and ODM who orchestrated the killing of Kenyans for political reasons by the careless tribal oriented utterances .Also you fail to mention that it is ODM supporters who displaced and rendered Kenyans homeless after incitement from Raila and ODM. But then again ODM didn't exist prior to Kibaki becoming the president. As for the constitution we all know the presidents input .If it wasn't for him it would never have seen the light of the day .
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 10, 2011 10:46:02 GMT 3
First things First . Jirongo has never been part of G-7 so to act as the spokesman of the group is not only misleading but also unethical . Secondly Kibaki has never come out clearly on a candidate he prefers should take the mantle from him , actually he has distanced himself from the matter.
What is for sure is the G-7 members should come out clearly and make joint tours to show they are one item. and we know the G-7 top members i.e Ruto,Kalonzo,Uhuru,Duale,Makwere,Wamalwa and Magara...... Which party is Jirongo in ? Kadu or Kaddu>
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 8, 2011 9:52:49 GMT 3
Rutos national appeal has been enhanced by being dropped from education ministry post.He has more time to "tour" and market himself and his party . At this rate he is surely downsizing Raila political base especially in areas where ODM as a party got massive support during last elections like the Coast ,N.Eastern, Eastern and of course he has already bagged the Riftvalley. This is good for the G-7 as the 2012 elections wont be about numbers alone but also counties . Attest to how Raila became a front runner in the 2007 elections .Honestly speaking Ruto has been a good student of Railas political games .......Will this make him the G-7 flag bearer , If he comes out on tops during the joint-nomination ...well and good , based on his performances in the ministries he has held he has the qualities to lead the country.
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 6, 2011 15:40:58 GMT 3
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 5, 2011 18:12:50 GMT 3
My take on Kays closing submission on Uhuru's caseI sense some disappointment and frustration in Kay during his closing statement. Kay arrogates that even after them providing OTP with the opportunity to establish their cases through the witnesses they brought forward to the court, OTP did not take it by the horn and question them further. He says such moments are telling – to mean there is no case (He seems to be pre-empting the judges). Notwithstanding, while he uncertainly states that there seems to be no case, he clearly betrays his fears by his insistence that by OTP not asking particular relevant questions, Uhuru was disabled as he did not get the opportunity to exonerate himself from the accusations before the court. Essentially, and reading between the lines, what Kay is telling us, and this is my take, is that what he has based his defence on – this is his witnesses’ testimonies and the Mr Summers’s (Scotland Yard) investigation report - is really not enough to convince the court from sending this case to trial. He needed more evidence to back up what he has provided; Hence he required the OTP to ask/pose some particular questions to his witness cum accused (Uhuru) and Nguyai, whose answers, assumedly supportive, would have given his defence argument more weight. Otherwise stated, Kay is consequently not convinced that what he put across in court, on its own, cannot suffice to get his client freedom. In hindsight, I now see why Kay actually brought forward Uhuru as a witness – he had hoped to bait the prosecution. Unfortunately, the OTP were ahead of him, sharper if I could say, and did not follow his seduction ploy. This is very intelligent of OTP, but only if this strategy works. Just for your information, these were some central arguments Kay puts forward that have led me to conclude that Kay and Uhuru team are worried. And I hope am not repeating myself. Kay argues that the prosecutors, during cross examination did not grapple with the key issues of the case...instead the OTP’s interrogation was grounded on other issues that were not valid in proving their case. Kay regards it as an utter failure. Kay claims that they were very prepared for answering any such questions from the prosecutor, yet the OTP was very brief. That Ocampo could not even fill the hour allocated to him by using it to question Kenyatta, which if well used would have led OTP and the chamber to establish the whole truth. Kay reiterates that OTP also didn’t challenge Nguyai enough....for example, why he was hanging around Jacaranda hotel at the times Mungikis always met him, or why did the Mungiki think that they could have done a better job in Naivasha and more similar questions. gemagemaVery interesting. I have not seen the live feed today but it seems Kay is not saying much about his other witness, Mr. Nguyai. I was just musing earlier about the OTP's decision to give Uhuru a pass. It looked like a whole flop by Ocampo but it is beginning to look like a work of genius now. It seems the OTP made a calculation that Uhuru was prepped to the max and was ready to dodge every question and actually explain himself to the court. Then Ocampo comes in and does his disappearing act and only gets two questions one of them, the Kagwanja one, grew its own legs later. The OTP then played the curve ball and asked Mr. Nguyai just about every question they should have asked Uhuru and the rest as we know is history. I was surprised that the very first question to Nguyai was to ask him if he knew where Uhuru lives. I thought Nguyai was going to tell them to ask Uhuru that question. But the dude gave them where Uhuru lives and its distance from State House etc. If you ask Uhuru that question he will tell you he has many homes. He will tell them he has a home in Kiambu etc. Then they asked the singer about any plans to postpone elctions if the case is confirmed. I thought the OTP was losing it again. Turns out this is the guy who made the proposal and he made it in a meeting organized by him for Uhuru. Then it went to the ICC mama yao rallies and again instead of asking Uhuru who could have easily told them people organise events for him everyday they went to Nguyai whom it turns out was the coordinator. In all these the tight relation between Nguyai and Uhuru is established and then they went back to Mungiki where Nguyai stunned everybody including the judges. If those very same questions were asked to Uhuru the OTP gets nothing and Uhuru uses all that to wash himself. I think that was th trap set by Kay and Ocampo the fox took another route that day and still landed where he wanted to. Like I said it is beginning to look like there was a science to Ocampo's madness. Now this is comical . "Science To Ocampo's Madness "
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 3, 2011 9:10:57 GMT 3
www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Media+erred+in+depicting+Ocampo+as+invincible/-/440808/1246224/-/9xqdaxz/-/index.htmlImpunity: The media erred in depicting Ocampo as an invincible silver bullet In terms of name-recognition, ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo ranks up there with the most prominent members of Kenyan society. His face beams down from the back of matatus. Pubs have been named after him. He is well known as the silver bullet. The towering, bearded Argentine who will “slay the monster of impunity”. That is the caricature of the prosecutor that the media have drawn over the last three years. And it explains the massive billing his confrontation with Uhuru Kenyatta on Thursday received. It was supposed to be a gladiatorial contest in which one of the parties would deliver a devastating blow against the other. In the end, it turned out to be a rather tame courtroom exchange with neither party landing any telling blows. What followed was a surge of responses on Facebook and other social media sites. What happened to the prosecutor? How could he fail to draw blood from UK? Where is the foolproof evidence we had been told to expect. In the end, these shocked reactions reflected the impossibly high expectations we had created of the ICC action in The Hague. The impression abroad in the land was that Mr Moreno-Ocampo could single-handedly identify the suspects, swoop in with a platoon of US marines and take them away to a prison very far away. In fact, the ICC process is a laborious one that grants the defendants the same rights as their accusers and aims to achieve justice through a credible and transparent process. The media should have done a better job of explaining this to manage public expectations. This is what Sir Geoffrey Nice wrote in an article in the London Review of Books before he took any part in the Kenya case: “All court systems that function well do so because they are well supervised: by governments, parliaments and, most important, by a vigorous press. (The ICC is) effectively free from these controls. The UN is not a governmental institution willing to analyse critically the work of its courts. Within the UN, criticism is unwelcome...As for the media, international criminal courts are mainly of interest in the country where the alleged crimes were committed and where the perpetrators and victims lived…There is a real need for critical, even skeptical journalists to oversee war crimes trials.” It is entirely understandable why the media invested so much hope in the prosecutor and resisted any attempt to be more skeptical. Like many right-minded Kenyans, most editors and reporters wanted to see the perpetrators of the violence brought to book. I was one of the worst offenders. I recall coming across the judgment in the Abu Garda case where one of the judges in the Kenya case, Cuno Tarfusser, issued a scathing critique of Mr Moreno-Ocampo saying that the factual errors in the prosecution’s case were such that reviewing the evidence was a “waste of precious judicial resources”. I decided not to pursue the story because I thought it would be seen as being unsupportive of the ICC. I had the same reaction when I saw a piece in the Guardian by the legal analyst Joshua Rozenberg saying Mr Moreno-Ocampo should be forced to step down (I have put the links to these articles in the online version of this column). All this is not to suggest that the Kenya cases will be thrown out. Far from it. Unlike a jury system where impressive courtroom performances can win a client’s release, this is a system where the judges will make a call based on the evidence they have. We do not know what is in the redacted documents. The judges may well decide that some doubt exists and that the defence submissions on the weakness of the case should be tested at trial. But from a Kenyan context it would be prudent for the media to manage public expectations – as to their credit only the Nairobi Law Monthly have done so far – by pointing out that the case could go either way, that no ethnic groups are on trial in The Hague and that the central figures in this case, including the chief prosecutor, are mortals with strengths and weaknesses in equal measure. mmutiga@ke.nationmedia.com Why-the-worlds-most-powerful-prosecutor-should-resign-Part-4.html (Telehgraph UK) www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc819602.pdf(Pre-trial chamber decision on Abu Garda)
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 3, 2011 8:51:59 GMT 3
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. PM, as Fahari eloquently states, you are not a paragon of peace. You dish it out yet feel slighted when it's dished out to you in small doses. I'm not condoning Jakaswanga's missive to you (& I'm amused to see he seems to have the Kay-Higgins defence duo at his side with his alternate definitions of MF), but I will not condemn him for attempting to tell you to shut it either. In this thread alone you have used the full MF almost a dozen times. Was that really necessary? Now grow a pair & move on as per P101's advice. Your point has been made, Jakaswanga's apology is on record, let him prepare for the sin bin. End of crisis! Please post here on which member PM has dished out abuses and insults on!!? any member on here? who has he abused or used the word MF? I repeat !!we are talking about Jukwaa members being abused by PM not politicians who have milked our country dry, stolen from the government coffers and organised gangs of murderers to slaughter innocent Kenyans, Those Politicians or Kenyans who steal, slaughter & murder !!!any Kenyan is allowed to throw insults and abuses at the many time!!they deserve it since they seem to be untouchable and protected while IN office! Like All politicians and Kenyans involved in Goldernberg scandals, Anglo leasing, Charter house, Grand Regency..2007-2008 slaughter & murders e.t.c these are individuals any Kenyan has a right to abuse if they choose to!!they deserve Matusi! But when it comes to Jukwaa members here, then I beg to differ, no member is allowed to use insulting, abusive and foul language against other members! period!! Jakaswanga abused PM! an apology is owed without trying to wiggle out of it with many stories like trying to say that he was right in using abusive language on a Jukwaa member! NOT ACCEPTABLE!! This is meandering at its best .
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Post by nowayhaha on Oct 1, 2011 8:44:57 GMT 3
Court will resume on Monday at 10.30am Kenyan time when Ali's defence will make submissions. Friday September 30, 2011 8:59 8:58 Judge Trendafilova thanks Nguyai for his testimony and wishes him a safe trip to Kenya. Friday September 30, 2011 8:58 8:57 Nguyai: I never heard of allegations that Mungiki were used to keep PNU in power. Friday September 30, 2011 8:57 8:55 Kenyatta lawyer Kay has the floor.
Nguyai: Majority of the information I have on Mungiki comes from my membership in parliamentary committees. The teams have 15 members or more and are representative of party affiliations. Friday September 30, 2011 8:55 8:53 Monari: Do you believe that Mungiki and police worked in tandem to carry out attacks during PEV?
Nguyai: It is not possible. Maina Njenga was arrested by police and prosecuted. Friday September 30, 2011 8:53 8:51 Nguyai: I don't know Maina Njenga's charges but I believe he was found in possession of an illegal firearm. We found that Mungiki had firearms during our tours. Friday September 30, 2011 8:51 8:50 Nguyai: I have no evidence if these people were dead, lost. Witnesses I came into contract with told me they had left the Mungiki, it had split into three. There was a power struggle. It is a huge possibility that they could have killed each other. Friday September 30, 2011 8:50 8:48 Ali's lawyer Monari: Do you have any evidence to extra judicial killings?
Nguyai:I have none. I do not attribute it to anyone. Friday September 30, 2011 8:48 8:46 Nguyai: Muthaura had no role in the PNU campaigns in 2007. I only heard Muthaura's alleged involvement in the violence after he was named as suspect. Friday September 30, 2011 8:46 8:45 Muthaura's lawyer questions Nguyai. You said you were present at Kibaki's swearing in. Was Muthaura present?
Nguyai? Yes. He was a coordinator. Friday September 30, 2011 8:45 8:43 Nguyai: In one of my conversation with Mungiki, they said they were in a war situation. Friday September 30, 2011 8:43 8:42 Judge: Did Mungiki have the means to end the violence as they had alleged?
Nguyai: No Friday September 30, 2011 8:42 8:41 Judge: Did you warn Kenyatta about Mungiki's interest to contact him?
Nguyai: I did not have Kenyatta's private cell number. Friday September 30, 2011 8:41 8:40 Judge Trendafilova says she has a few questions. You kept Mungiki members numbers. Why?
Nguyai: It was for my own security so that I could know who was calling. Friday September 30, 2011 8:40 8:38 Nguyai: Violence in Naivasha was contained due to heavy presence of security personnel. Friday September 30, 2011 8:38 8:34 Nguyai: I don't know what happened to the IDPs at the police station since I had a crisis in my constituency. Friday September 30, 2011 8:34 8:32 Nguyai: I cannot recall the mane of the DC. This is in reply to a question after Nguyai had testified that he and the administrator had organised for security. Friday September 30, 2011 8:32 8:30 Anyah: You went to the house that had been burned. Are you were one of the occupants was a pregnant woman?
Nguyai: Yes. There were also children. I have seen press statement that the windows and door was locked and set on fire. Friday September 30, 2011 8:30 8:29 Nguyai: Kikuyu were the aggressors on the Nairobi- Nakuru highway. At Karagita, it was more of a demonstration. IDPs told us it was out of fear that they sought refuge at the police station. They feared the Kikuyu. Friday September 30, 2011 8:29 8:27 Nguyai: There were many IDPs at the police station. Many had injuries and we asked for medical supplies from the local hospital. They were about 1,200. Most were Luos, Luhyas. Friday September 30, 2011 8:27 8:25 Nguyai: There was police presence. The non-Kikuyus requested escort to go to the police station for their safety. They were about 300. Friday September 30, 2011 8:25 8:23 Anyah: How many days did you spend in Naivasha?
Nguyai: We were in Karagita the whole day with Saitoti and local MP Mututho Friday September 30, 2011 8:23 8:21 Victims' lawyers Anyah requests to question Nguyai. The Chamber grants it. Friday September 30, 2011 8:21 8:19 Prosecution winds up its questions. Friday September 30, 2011 8:19 8:19 Prosecution: Are you familiar with some of his writings?
Nguyai: No Friday September 30, 2011 8:19 8:18 Prosecution: Do you know Prof Peter Kagwanja?
Nguyai: Yes. He is PNU strategist. I know Mt Kenya Foundation, but I don't know if he is a member. Kagwanja is a professor. Friday September 30, 2011 8:18 8:16 Prosecution: Did Kenyatta denounce the Mungiki in 2002?
Nguyai: Yes he did. The denouncement was because Mungiki aid they wanted to support his candidacy for president Friday September 30, 2011 8:16 8:14 Prosecution: Why was Maina Njenga released from prison?
Nguyai: I had left the committee then. I do not know. Friday September 30, 2011 8:14 8:14 Nguyai: I was part of select committee investigating organised crime. Friday September 30, 2011 8:14 8:11 Court is back for the final session. Friday September 30, 2011 8:11 7:40 Court breaks for thirty minutes. Friday September 30, 2011 7:40 7:40 Nguyai: I did not express an opinion on the killings during the PEV. Friday September 30, 2011 7:40 7:38 Nguyai: It is possible that we appealed for calm through statements. Friday September 30, 2011 7:38 7:36 Nguyai: I don't know how the money raised was used. I have mentioned two fundraising meetings at KICC and Galileo but I don't know how the money was disbursed. Friday September 30, 2011 7:36 7:34 Nguyai: At a Jacaranda Hotel meeting, MPs agreed on the need to fundraise to help the IDPs. A former MP said there was need to defend ourselves. Since people were dying, it was not alarmist. Friday September 30, 2011 7:34 7:31 Nguyai: I was invited to a meeting at the Kikuyu Country Club, but I did not attend because I did not know the organizers. Friday September 30, 2011 7:31 7:30 Prosecution refers to a CIPEV report. Witnesses informed the commissions of planned meetings to coordinate fighters and violence. Meeting was attended by Kikuyu MPs and politicians. CIPEV received reports of businessmen met in Limuru to fundraise for eviction of non-Kikuyus.
Nguyai: I have read the report. If the meeting took place in Kikuyu, I would have known. Friday September 30, 2011 7:30 7:26 Prosecution: Were there fundraising meetings for other purposes other than humanitarian?
Nguyai: I was not aware. Neither in Kikuyu, Limuru, Nairobi. I cannot recollect such rumours. Friday September 30, 2011 7:26 7:24 Nguyai: We tried to calm crowds with Kenyatta on January 30, 2008. At Galileo, PNU MPs included Geroge Thuo, Martha Karua, Kabando was Kabando, and myself. Friday September 30, 2011 7:24 7:22 Nguyai: Lawyer Gathenji requested people to testify on Kenyatta's behalf. I was selected because I was networked. I have a personal relationship with the lawyer and I have no daily contact with Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 7:22 7:19 Nguyai: I was interviewed in January and August by the defence. I signed one statement. Friday September 30, 2011 7:19 7:18 Prosecution: Who is the boss mentioned in the text messages?
Nguyai: I would only assume that it is Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 7:18 7:17 Nguyai: I did not report to the police but I forwarded the message to the Internal Security PS and he called me to say he would take care of it. Friday September 30, 2011 7:17 7:15 Nguyai: The Mungiki SMS's were demanding money. By saying "putting things on the table through the media" Mungiki meant exposing me for withholding Sh3m released by the boss. Friday September 30, 2011 7:15 7:13 Prosecution: You said Mungiki requested contact with Kibaki, Michuki, Saitoti and Kenyatta. Is that correct?
Nguyai: Yes. Friday September 30, 2011 7:13 7:10 Nguyai: I was not in government. But I heard that Mungiki was an illegal and banned outfit from different quarters of government. Friday September 30, 2011 7:10 7:08 Nguyai: After the skirmishes, I continued to offer Mungiki support even after they had requested for money and ammunition. Friday September 30, 2011 7:08 7:05 Nguyai: I reported to Nairobi PPO in so far as ammunition and money is concerned. Friday September 30, 2011 7:05 7:03 Prosecution reads a statement by Nguyai. The Mungiki said they wanted me to link them to Kenyatta. They wanted money and weapons- AK-47 rifles to take to Nakuru and Molo.
Nguyai: Their request was after Nakuru and Naivasha. I called the Nairobi police boss Friday September 30, 2011 7:03 7:00 Nguyai: Mungiki would normally intercept me at the hotel's gate and they followed me to the parking. On the first occasion, they called me by name. Friday September 30, 2011 7:00 6:58 Nguyai: I cannot recall the identities of the others. I believe that Jacaranda Hotel is owned by former minister Njenga Karume. It is in Westlands near the Sarit Centre. Friday September 30, 2011 6:58 6:57 Nguyai: Between December 2007 and January 2008, I talked to two but they had people behind them. I was introduced to those in different departments. The two that I interacted with was at Jacaranda. They flagged my car down and introduced others to me. Friday September 30, 2011 6:57 6:55 Prosecution: What do you understand by the term Mungiki?
Nguyai: Literal meaning is a large group of people. In my understating they are a group of people loosely connected trying to form organized crime. Friday September 30, 2011 6:55 6:53 Prosecution: Who was responsible for these extra judicial killings?
Nguyai: I have no definitive answer but there was speculation that it was government. Ali was head of police, Internal Security minister was John Michuki. Friday September 30, 2011 6:53 6:50 Prosecution: In your statement you said: There was a gentleman who used to call me when there was extra judicial killings.
Nguyai: I remember making this statement. Extra judicial killings are those conducted outside the justice system. In this particular instance, the man called me when young people disappeared or were killed. They were youth in Kikuyu constituency. Friday September 30, 2011 6:50 6:47 Prosecution: Were you with Kenyatta on January 1, 2, 3?
Nguyai: No. Friday September 30, 2011 6:47 6:46 Nguyai: I do not recall proposing prayer meeting for Kenyatta last month. In 2008, besides the formal PNU/ Kanu meetings maybe 3-4 interactions in January and similar time in February. Friday September 30, 2011 6:46 6:45 Nguyai: I was one of the people who raised a proposition to postpone the 2012 polls if the ICC cases are still on. Friday September 30, 2011 6:45 6:43 Nguyai: I am aware of a prayer service at Uhuru Park to welcome the Ocampo Six back to Kenya. I was one of the event organisers. Friday September 30, 2011 6:43 6:42 Nguyai: Kenyatta is my party boss and a friend. Friday September 30, 2011 6:42 6:41 Prosecution: what was your reaction to the ICC process?
Nguyai: Utter shock. It affected me in terms of confidence for a week. Friday September 30, 2011 6:41 6:40 Nguyai: We had scheduled prayer rallies before the suspects' initial Hague appearance. The agenda was geared towards prayers. Each politician gave his own views. Majority view was that probe was not thorough. Friday September 30, 2011 6:40 6:38 Nguyai: I have attended numerous rallies with Kenyatta. I recall Murang'a and Kiambu rallies. Friday September 30, 2011 6:38 6:36 Prosecution: Do you know where Kenyatta lives.
Nguyai: He lives on Dennis Pritt road, 400 metres from State House. Friday September 30, 2011 6:36 6:35 Nguyai: I am Kikuyu and I report to my minister Musalia Mudavadi. He is a member of Cabinet. The ultimate head is the President but on political front he is in the ODM. Friday September 30, 2011 6:35 6:33 Judge Trendafilova hands over the witness to the prosecution. Friday September 30, 2011 6:33 6:32 Kay: I have exhausted my questions. Friday September 30, 2011 6:32 6:32 Nguyai: One MP and a member of Kenyatta staff also received similar messages. Friday September 30, 2011 6:32 6:31 Nguyai: He tried to obtain money from me. Each demanded Sh3m that Kenyatta had released and they claimed I had refused to pass it on. I never received money from Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:31 6:29 Nguyai: I started avoiding them but I forwarded the messages to the Internal Security PS. Witness 12 sent me a message on Friday last week. Friday September 30, 2011 6:29 6:28 Nguyai: I have the original text messages. One of them appeared at the reception area of my office. He said that if I did not honour the demand, I would pay for it. He told me to pass the message to Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:28 6:25 Nguyai: I introduced Witness 12 to the defence. In August, I was interviewed by the defence and I indicated that I had received extortion messages from 12 and another one demanding Sh3m for the work they had done for the defence. Friday September 30, 2011 6:25 6:22 Nguyai: I am not aware that Kenyatta is Mungiki. I remember Kenyatta saying that he would never associate with the sect. He said it would be a terrible blow. Friday September 30, 2011 6:22 6:20 Nguyai: I helped one with paying school fees for his children . He requested to remain anonymous. He claimed that he was not able to get gainful employment and was afraid for his security. As MP, I joined committees that had intense contact with Mungiki. Friday September 30, 2011 6:20 6:17 Kay: When was the request for money?
Nguyai: I cannot recollect. I remember a particular incident after Naivasha and Nakuru. They said the violence was perpetrated by non-professionals and they would have done a better"job" Friday September 30, 2011 6:17 6:14 Nguyai: They said they had a plan to end the violence. They wanted resources for ammunition to fight. By the third or fourth meeting, they asked for token money. I would give them about Sh2,500 to Sh3,000. Friday September 30, 2011 6:14 6:13 Nguyai: Once I had confirmed that these were Mungiki, I thought it would be prudent to save their number. I did not help them contact Kenyatta. I met them seven or eight times and at no time did they contact Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:13 6:11 Nguyai: They told me as warriors they wanted to get the rich. They wanted to use me to get them Michuki, Saitoti or Kenyatta. They wanted to make contact with Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:11 6:08 Nguyai: They told me that they had not supported PNU in the election but it was time to come home. The Mungiki said the community is protected by three pillars: the elders, the rich and the warriors. Friday September 30, 2011 6:08 6:05 Kay: In January 2008, did you come across Mungiki at the Jacaranda Hotel?
Nguyai: Yes I did. Friday September 30, 2011 6:05 6:04 Court is back.
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Prosecution: In your statement you said: There was a gentleman who used to call me when there was extra judicial killings.
Nguyai: I remember making this statement. Extra judicial killings are those conducted outside the justice system. In this particular instance, the man called me when young people disappeared or were killed. They were youth in Kikuyu constituency. Friday September 30, 2011 6:50 6:47 Prosecution: Were you with Kenyatta on January 1, 2, 3?
Nguyai: No. Friday September 30, 2011 6:47 6:46 Nguyai: I do not recall proposing prayer meeting for Kenyatta last month. In 2008, besides the formal PNU/ Kanu meetings maybe 3-4 interactions in January and similar time in February. Friday September 30, 2011 6:46 6:45 Nguyai: I was one of the people who raised a proposition to postpone the 2012 polls if the ICC cases are still on. Friday September 30, 2011 6:45 6:43 Nguyai: I am aware of a prayer service at Uhuru Park to welcome the Ocampo Six back to Kenya. I was one of the event organisers. Friday September 30, 2011 6:43 6:42 Nguyai: Kenyatta is my party boss and a friend. Friday September 30, 2011 6:42 6:41 Prosecution: what was your reaction to the ICC process?
Nguyai: Utter shock. It affected me in terms of confidence for a week. Friday September 30, 2011 6:41 6:40 Nguyai: We had scheduled prayer rallies before the suspects' initial Hague appearance. The agenda was geared towards prayers. Each politician gave his own views. Majority view was that probe was not thorough. Friday September 30, 2011 6:40 6:38 Nguyai: I have attended numerous rallies with Kenyatta. I recall Murang'a and Kiambu rallies. Friday September 30, 2011 6:38 6:36 Prosecution: Do you know where Kenyatta lives.
Nguyai: He lives on Dennis Pritt road, 400 metres from State House. Friday September 30, 2011 6:36 6:35 Nguyai: I am Kikuyu and I report to my minister Musalia Mudavadi. He is a member of Cabinet. The ultimate head is the President but on political front he is in the ODM. Friday September 30, 2011 6:35 6:33 Judge Trendafilova hands over the witness to the prosecution. Friday September 30, 2011 6:33 6:32 Kay: I have exhausted my questions. Friday September 30, 2011 6:32 6:32 Nguyai: One MP and a member of Kenyatta staff also received similar messages. Friday September 30, 2011 6:32 6:31 Nguyai: He tried to obtain money from me. Each demanded Sh3m that Kenyatta had released and they claimed I had refused to pass it on. I never received money from Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:31 6:29 Nguyai: I started avoiding them but I forwarded the messages to the Internal Security PS. Witness 12 sent me a message on Friday last week. Friday September 30, 2011 6:29 6:28 Nguyai: I have the original text messages. One of them appeared at the reception area of my office. He said that if I did not honour the demand, I would pay for it. He told me to pass the message to Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:28 6:25 Nguyai: I introduced Witness 12 to the defence. In August, I was interviewed by the defence and I indicated that I had received extortion messages from 12 and another one demanding Sh3m for the work they had done for the defence. Friday September 30, 2011 6:25 6:22 Nguyai: I am not aware that Kenyatta is Mungiki. I remember Kenyatta saying that he would never associate with the sect. He said it would be a terrible blow. Friday September 30, 2011 6:22 6:20 Nguyai: I helped one with paying school fees for his children . He requested to remain anonymous. He claimed that he was not able to get gainful employment and was afraid for his security. As MP, I joined committees that had intense contact with Mungiki. Friday September 30, 2011 6:20 6:17 Kay: When was the request for money?
Nguyai: I cannot recollect. I remember a particular incident after Naivasha and Nakuru. They said the violence was perpetrated by non-professionals and they would have done a better"job" Friday September 30, 2011 6:17 6:14 Nguyai: They said they had a plan to end the violence. They wanted resources for ammunition to fight. By the third or fourth meeting, they asked for token money. I would give them about Sh2,500 to Sh3,000. Friday September 30, 2011 6:14 6:13 Nguyai: Once I had confirmed that these were Mungiki, I thought it would be prudent to save their number. I did not help them contact Kenyatta. I met them seven or eight times and at no time did they contact Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:13 6:11 Nguyai: They told me as warriors they wanted to get the rich. They wanted to use me to get them Michuki, Saitoti or Kenyatta. They wanted to make contact with Kenyatta. Friday September 30, 2011 6:11 6:08 Nguyai: They told me that they had not supported PNU in the election but it was time to come home. The Mungiki said the community is protected by three pillars: the elders, the rich and the warriors. Friday September 30, 2011 6:08 6:05 Kay: In January 2008, did you come across Mungiki at the Jacaranda Hotel?
Nguyai: Yes I did. Friday September 30, 2011 6:05 6:04 Court is back.
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Court takes a 30-minute break. Friday September 30, 2011 5:32 5:31 Nguyai: I have read the KNCHR report and it only indicates that a local MP tried to pacify but left out the tremendous work Kenyatta did. Friday September 30, 2011 5:31 5:30 Kay: Was there any other form of donations?
Nguyai: A friend pledged to donate tents. Friday September 30, 2011 5:30 5:29 Nguyai: Kenyatta came in late. He requested for peace and the solution was dialogue. We raised money but I cannot recall how much it was. Friday September 30, 2011 5:29 5:27 Nguyai: On the material day, I arrived at Galileo at 7.30pm. Between 150-180 attended, mostly young businessmen and young fraternity of PNU MPs. Friday September 30, 2011 5:27 5:25 Kay: Did you take part in fundraising meetings?
Nguyai: Yes, I did. I attended one at KICC and also contributed part of my salary to assist those affected by the chaos. Late January meeting at Galileo to fundraise for the IDPs and supplement government efforts. Friday September 30, 2011 5:25 5:22 Nguyai: We agreed to form peace committees to preach tolerance. Kenyatta did not plan violence. Friday September 30, 2011 5:22 5:20 Nguyai: At Zambezi, the crowd was unruly and they were armed with crude weapons. Others in our entourage turned back and only Kenyatta and I were left. Kenyatta calmed the crowd. Friday September 30, 2011 5:20 5:17 Nguyai: We listened to the plight of the displaced. We talked to them as leaders. Kenyatta told the DC to ensure that they had sufficient security and they could live in Limuru without fear. Friday September 30, 2011 5:17 5:16 Still more pictures are admitted into evidence. Friday September 30, 2011 5:16 5:12 Kay shows the Chamber photographs of Kenyatta, Nguyai and Gumo in a peace tour of Wangige. They were joined by MPs Elias Mbau and Soita Shitanda. Each of us was trying to reach across the divide, says Nguyai. Friday September 30, 2011 5:12 5:09 Kay: Was it difficult to get Kenyatta to cooperate?
Nguyai: Kenyatta gave an indication that he would participate in the peace tours. Friday September 30, 2011 5:09 5:08 Nguyai: Kenyatta was chosen as leader due to his popularity and most of us saw him as an excellent peace maker. Gumo was from the ODM. Friday September 30, 2011 5:08 5:07 Nguyai:13 MPs from across the political divide agreed to involve leaders to lead peace rallies. Our side was led by Kenyatta and the other by Westlands MP Fred Gumo. Friday September 30, 2011 5:07 5:06 Kay: Did you take further steps to calm the situation?
Nguyai: We felt there was need to discuss across board. We agreed to meet at Parliament to stem the violence. Friday September 30, 2011 5:06 5:03 Nguyai: I remember three people who had smeared themselves with blood. They wanted to intensify emotions and seek sympathy . Friday September 30, 2011 5:03 5:01 Nguyai: Our message bore fruit. I was not aware that PNU was plotting violence. After the incident, Kenyatta went back to Nairobi and I went to Zambezi. Friday September 30, 2011 5:01 4:59 Kay: What was Kenyatta doing?
Nguyai: He was trying to pacify the youths and urge them not to take any action against non-Kikuyus. Friday September 30, 2011 4:59 4:57 Kay re-plays a clip of Kenyatta appealing for calm in Tigoni area. Friday September 30, 2011 4:57 4:55 Nguyai: Another group at Kikuyu. We heard Kenyatta was headed there. The Kikuyu youths had instilled fear into the local non-Kikuyus. Friday September 30, 2011 4:55 4:54 Nguyai: There was another group at Gitaru. A fellow MP Peter Kenneth called me and we met there to calm the crowd. Yet another crowd was at Zambezi and Kenneth rushed there. Friday September 30, 2011 4:54 4:52 Nguyai: In the morning, we were at the DC's office. At around 11am, we were told there was a huge crowd at Kinoo. I went there and the 400 youths were rowdy and they were demanding revenge. I tried to pacify them. Police shot in the air. Friday September 30, 2011 4:52 4:50 Kay: Was that the first time you had to deal with a hostile crowd?
Nguyai: Yes. There seemed to be a domino effect coming to Nairobi. I received a call from someone who wanted me to attend a meeting. I was told that there were calls for revenge attacks. I called the DC in a bid to arrest the situation. Friday September 30, 2011 4:50 4:47 Nguyai: Most of the displaced were in need of sanitation, security, clothing. Security minister instructed police to clear the highway and disperse the mob. Friday September 30, 2011 4:47 4:45 Kay: Any reason why you couldn't tell?
Nguyai: They are amorphous. You cannot tell who is Mungiki or not. They spot dreadlocks and use snuff and I did not spot these. Friday September 30, 2011 4:45 4:43 Nguyai: Majority of attackers were Kikuyu and the other side was mainly composed of non-Kikuyus. I would not tell if they were Mungiki or not. Friday September 30, 2011 4:43 4:43 Nguyai: The weapons included long sticks, stones, machetes. We talked to the people at Karagita. We had assembled a huge police presence. The people at the farms pleaded with us to ensure they reached safety. Friday September 30, 2011 4:43 4:41 Nguyai: It was a day or two after serious conflict. Internal Security minister and local MP were present. We wanted to contain the chaos. Friday September 30, 2011 4:41 4:40 Nguyai: 28 January. We were flown to Naivasha and we saw first hand the violence. We found a large group of people with crude weapons. We tried to pacify the crowds. Friday September 30, 2011 4:40 4:38 Kay: What is the ethnic composition of your constituency?
Nguyai: 90 per cent are Kikuyus. It has 265,000 people. 25 per cent are of different ethnic backgrounds- Luos, Luhyas, Kamba, Kisii. Friday September 30, 2011 4:38 4:35 Kay: Were you involved in PNU/ODM negotiations?
Nguyai: No. We all had crises in our constituencies. ODM had disputed the elections. The first meeting was of the PNU coalition to seek dialogue and take care of the displaced. Friday September 30, 2011 4:35 4:32 Kay: When did government start providing help?
Nguyai: Probably two weeks. We registered those who came in. Friday September 30, 2011 4:32 4:31 Kay: What about food, clothes?
Nguyai: Initial provision was to request donations from locals. We set up a relief centre at Kikuyu PCEA where we got food and clothing. A lot of volunteers. Friday September 30, 2011 4:31 4:30 Nguyai: The initial reaction was one of utter shock. It quickly turned into a humanitarian situation. The local DC and myself set up a settlement committee. We urged residents to help and adopted a policy "adapt a family" Friday September 30, 2011 4:30 4:28 Kay: Did you take any steps?
Nguyai: I tried to locate the Nairobi police boss to get in touch with his Rift Valley counterpart to assist those affected. Friday September 30, 2011 4:28 4:27 Nguyai: I also received a lot of calls from my constituents especially those who had relatives in Kiambaa. A priest asked me to help bring them to safety. Friday September 30, 2011 4:27 4:26 Kay: Did you see images of the church?
Nguyai: Yes. I was at home. I live in Lower Kabete, Nairobi as it was New Year's Day. Friday September 30, 2011 4:26 4:25 Nguyai: I started receiving calls around midnight. People said they were under attack. He got information that a church in Kiambaa had been burnt. Friday September 30, 2011 4:25 4:23 Kay: Was there security arrangements on that day?
Nguyai:Yes. We were ushered in through Gate C. We surrendered our IDs for verification. Security picked our mobile phones and we were directed to a designated car park. Friday September 30, 2011 4:23 4:22 Nguyai: At least between 300-400 people were present. I did not see any Mungiki at the function. Friday September 30, 2011 4:22 4:21 Kay: What time did you leave?
Nguyai: Right after the ceremony. Friday September 30, 2011 4:21 4:20 Kay: Did you attend Kibaki swearing in ceremony?
Nguyai: Yes. I got to State House at 5.15pm. It was a formal occasion in the sense that it was conducted by the Chief Justice. Friday September 30, 2011 4:20 4:18 Nguyai: I was at the Hotel Intercontinental when the elections results were announced. I rushed back to KICC. Friday September 30, 2011 4:18 4:17 Kay: Can you describe the situation at KICC on December 30, 2007?
Nguyai: There was a lot of tension and exchange of harsh words between ECK chairman and politicians over delay in transmitting results. Friday September 30, 2011 4:17 4:15 Nguyai: I campaigned for PNU in my constituency and neighboring ones. Friday September 30, 2011 4:15 4:14 Nguyai: I won by a landslide. I knew Kenyatta very well. As the son of Kenya's first president, I saw him in the media. I met him in a few occasions. Friday September 30, 2011 4:14 4:13 Nguyai: I concentrated on my local campaigns and was not involved in the national one. Friday September 30, 2011 4:13 4:11 Nguyai: I contested the Kikuyu parliamentary seat on a PNU ticket in 2007. In 2002, I ran on a Kanu ticket. Friday September 30, 2011 4:11 4:10 Nguyai : I am an assistant minister in the Ministry of Local Government and Kikuyu MP. Friday September 30, 2011 4:10 4:08 Nguyai swears to tell the truth Friday September 30, 2011 4:08 4:07 Judge Trendafilova tells Nguyai that he will be questioned by Kenyatta's defence, the prosecution and the victims' representative, if the Chamber allows, in that order. Friday September 30, 2011 4:07 4:05 Mr Nguyai is ushered into the courtroom. Friday September 30, 2011 4:05 4:05 Judge Trendafilova says today the Chamber will hear the testimony of Kenyatta's second witness Kikuyu MP Lewis Nguyai. Friday September 30, 2011 4:05 4:04 Day 9 of the confirmation of charges hearings get underway Friday September 30, 2011 4:04 Friday September 30, 2011
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Judge Trendafilova suspends the hearing for thirty minutes. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:31 5:30 Kay: Where were you on January 3, 2008?
Kenyatta: I was at home. On the previous day there were mass action calls. for security reasons, I was at home. I did not go to Nairobi Club that day nor the whole month. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:30 5:29 Kay: Are you a member of the Nairobi Club?
Kenyatta: Yes. I am not aware if Muthaura is a member. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:29 5:28 Kay: Are State House staff drawn from the Kikuyu only?
Kenyatta: It is multi-ethnic. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:28 5:27 Kay: An army truck with Mungiki driving into State House. What do you see when driving in?
Kenyatta: A processional type convoy. The only time I have known army trucks enter State House was during the coup. Military have no responsibility in the premises. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:27 5:25 Kay: Describe how Citi Hoppa buses look like?
Kenyatta: They are large green buses and deal with commuting Nairobians. I would not call them shiny and new. 20-25 seater type buses. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:25 5:23 Kay: A Citi Hoppa bus driving into State House. Would it have been known?
Kenyatta: It would have impossible for such a happening to occur. It would not have escaped security. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:23 5:22 Kay: Are there permanent staff?
Kenyatta: Yes. Staff housing is in the compound. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:22 5:21 Kay: Describe State House?
Kenyatta: It is the official residence of the president. It is heavily secured and is situated in the heart of Nairobi. There are three key entrances. A very formal building that employs hundreds. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:21 5:19 Kay: Prosecution witness alleges a meeting involving you, Mungiki and senior PNU officials. did it happen?
Kenyatta: No. It would be impossible for an event like that to be graced by Mungiki without raising eyebrows. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:19 5:18 Kay: Was there a reception?
Kenyatta: No. I went home to sleep after spending four days without sleep. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:18 5:17 Kay: Were you accompanied by anyone when you left KICC?
Kenyatta: Yes. One of my personal assistant. It lasted about an hour. 200 people attended. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:17 5:16 Kenyatta: Function was covered by international media. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:16 5:15 Kay: How did that event take place?
Kenyatta: On the grounds of State House. There were MPs, Chief Justice, Attorney General, former ministers, military bosses. It was a state function. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:15 5:13 Kay: Did you go to Kibaki's swearing in?
Kenyatta: Yes. It was late afternoon. Myself and other agents left for State House for the ceremony. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:13 5:12 Kay: When results were announced, did you have any information to reaction of the people?
Kenyatta: I was not in touch with what was going on as our focus was in the tallying. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:12 5:11 Kenyatta: ODM was alleging that there was a plot to rig the elections. I was not aware of such a plot. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:11 5:10 Kay: How would you describe the atmosphere?
Kenyatta: It was quite charged. At times ODM was in the lead and PNU was catching up. As Kibaki closed in on Odinga, we stared hearing of rumours that the results were skewed. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:10 5:09 Kay: Returns started coming in culminating in the final tally. Were you at KICC as part of your duty?
Kenyatta: We literally lived there. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:09 5:08 Kenyatta: On top of being a presidential campaigner and after casting my ballot at Gatundu South, I went to KICC to begin my duty at the national tallying centre. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:08 5:06 Kenyatta: I arrived at around 9am and left 12.30pm where we all walked to the Hotel Intercontinental. Kibaki eventually came to lunch. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:06 5:04 Kenyatta: We expected Kibaki at the KICC meeting of all PNU parliamentary candidates. It turned chaotic and the president decided to skip it. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:04 5:01 Kay: Did you recognise people in a video clip of the youth meeting?
Kenyatta: Two people. Ambassador Khamati and Kanu youth leader. Thursday September 29, 2011 5:01 4:59 Kenyatta: I was not the organiser of the youth meeting at State House and did not attend. It was organised by the "Kibaki Tena" group. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:59 4:58 Kay: On Nov 26, 2007, did you go to State House for a Mungiki meeting with the president and Muthaura?
Kenyatta: No. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:58 4:56 Kay: Can you recollect where you went after the rally?
Kenyatta: I left for home. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:56 4:56 Kay: On that date, we know that there was a big youth rally at Uhuru Park. Did you address the rally?
Kenyatta: Yes, I was one of the speakers. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:56 4:55 Kay: The witness also alleged another meeting on November 25, 2007 between you and Mungiki as well as your PA?
Kenyatta: I have never held a meeting with Mungiki or anyone else at Yaya. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:55 4:54 Kay: If you were to go to Yaya centre with Mungiki would it cause excitement?
Kenyatta: I don't know if there would be excitement,, but it would definitely raise attention. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:54 4:52 Kay: Have you met such people at Yaya.
Kenyatta: Yaya centre is not a meeting place. I have never been to the place with people I work with. Only with my family. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:52 4:51 Kay: Prosecution witness 4 alleges a meeting with Mungiki at Yaya. Did that event happen?
Kenyatta: It never happened. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:51 4:48 Kay: Where did the discussions take place?
Kenyatta: Different locations. PNU headquarters, Kanu offices but we had to abandon these venues and retreat to quieter locations. I was involved in these discussions and we moved to a location in Kileleshwa. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:48 4:46 Kay: 25 MPs lost their seats. What problems did you as Kanu chair and the party face?
Kenyatta: Many candidates felt the process was not transparent. It was tough getting them to accept the outcome and the electoral commission has also given deadlines. Party leaders were involved in intense discussions to meet the deadlines. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:46 4:44 Kay: Can you describe the nomination process?
Kenyatta: We had to go through the process of nominating civic and parliamentary candidates. There was a drive to ensure that we came up with one candidate for a particular seat to avoid vote splitting. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:44 4:42 Kay: Did it come about that PNU was formed and Kibaki was its leader?
Kenyatta: We agreed that we will support Kibaki for president but retain our identity and also field parliamentary candidates. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:42 4:40 Kenyatta: We deliberated within Kanu's hierarchy and agreed that we could enter into talks with Kibaki largely due to his development record. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:40 4:38 Kenyatta: The understanding was that regions belonged to tribes. We felt that it would stoke tensions. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:38 4:36 Kay: Explain what structure Majimbo envisaged?
Kenyatta: A federal structure. In many circumstances, it was taken to mean exclusivity for certain communities. We did not want to split the country. We were looking for greater regional integration. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:36 4:35 Kenyatta: There was a feeling that the ODM was taking a direction that was creating tension in the country. Ethnic tensions was developing and Kanu has always stood for a united Kenya. ODM advocated Majimbo or regional governments. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:35 4:33 Kay: Was there a time that you took your party out of the Orange?
Kenyatta: Yes, it was Kanu party's decision. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:33 4:32 Kay: Did you remain as Kanu inside the new party?
Kenyatta: Yes. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:32 4:32 Kay: In 2007, there was a new party , the ODM?
Kenyatta: Some of those in government were opposed to the Constitution. Thereafter, they also joined the opposition that later evolved into ODM. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:32 4:30 Kay: What was the position of President Kibaki's Narc party?
Kenyatta: That the Constitution should be adopted. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:30 4:29 Kay: Which side of the constitution draft did you support?
Kenyatta: In the 2005 referendum,Kanu adopted a stand that there were issues that were left out. We took a position not to support. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:29 4:27 Kenyatta: There was a feeling that a new Constitution was needed to addresses social, economic and political issues. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:27 4:26 Kenyatta: Chaos revolved around presidential elections. People were evicted if they did not follow the political direction of the majority community. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:26 4:23 Kay: From your political experience, did violence mark the campaigns?
Kenyatta: From onset of multi-party polls, there has been chaos. So to forestall this, I felt that conceding defeat was the right thing. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:23 4:20 Kay: That concession of defeat, how was it received in Kanu?
Kenyatta: There were those who said we should have waited for the final tally. I did not see the need to as Kibaki was headed for the win. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:20 4:19 Kay: Kibaki won the election. How did you accept defeat?
Kenyatta: When tallying begun and it became apparent that the direction of voting was leading to a Kibaki win and given that it was a transitional election, there was growing tension with rumours that Kanu would not relinquish power. To stem this talk and after consultations, I conceded defeat. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:19 4:16 Kay: What did your politics stand for?
Kenyatta: My politics at the time and still is today is that we need a united Kenya. I was keen on seeing a new and younger generation in politics. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:16 4:15 Kenyatta: At the time there was a strong feeling that I was out to divide the Kikuyu vote. (Kenyatta was running against Kibaki, a fellow Kikuyu). The perception was that I was a "Moi project". Thursday September 29, 2011 4:15 4:13 Kenyatta: The party chairman was Moi but I was one of the four vice chairmen. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:13 4:12 Kenyatta: I contested the presidency in 2002. Kanu's key platform was united Kenya, youth unemployment. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:12 4:11 Kenyatta: I saw it on TV. At the time, there was a crackdown on the gang and they blamed it on the Government. Being a member of the ruling party, I was their target of anger. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:11 4:09 Kay plays a video showing a Mungiki protest where the sect members set on fire a Kenyatta effigy. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:09 4:08 Kenyatta: I did not win a parliamentary seat in the 1997 polls. I remained in the party. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:08 4:07 Kenyatta: Former president Moi was party leader at the time. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:07 4:07 Uhuru lawyer Steve Kay has the floor.
Kenyatta: Kanu is a national party, it included small communities. Major ethnic groups in 1997 polls were not in Kanu. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:07 4:05 Judge Trendafilova says today's proceedings will involve the questioning of Mr Kenyatta by the defence, prosecution, victims, and defence again. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:05 4:03 Day 8 of the confirmation of charges hearings get underway. Thursday September 29, 2011 4:03 Thursday September 29, 2011
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Post by nowayhaha on Sept 28, 2011 17:34:11 GMT 3
Judge Trendafilova adjourns court for thirty minutes. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:29 5:28 Higgins: Article refers to Kikuyu MPs saying that they would mobilise revenge attacks. Not known who authored the article, if it was for propaganda purposes. Useless as evidence. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:28 5:26 Higgins: Article by scholar Peter Kagwanja refers to Mungiki announcing that it will back Kenyatta. No footnotes on sources, which is rather surprising from an academic article. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:26 5:21 Higgins: Internet article contains an unsupported evidence that after elctions Kenyatta transformed himself into a defender of conservative Kikuyu interests.
Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:21 5:19 Higgins says she will move to 11 documents cited by the prosecution. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:19 5:16 Higgins: Witness says Kenyatta promised to pay Sh10,000 for every killed Luo or Kisii. He was not able to corroborate his testimony. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:16 5:14 Higgins:Evidence raises more questuion than answers. Untenable, no probative value. This is not the stuff of the ICC. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:14 5:13 Higgins: What is the probative value of such statements? Is this the evidence that Chamber will rely on? We submit that to do so would lower the stature of the court. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:13 5:11 Higgins: Another witness says that people believed Kenyatta bought pangas. We are astounded that such testimony can be relied upon by the prosecution. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:11 5:10 Higgins: A witness says that Kenyatta was responsible for buying pangas. He does not know that the prosecution is using him to build a case, which is sad. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:10 5:08 Higgins: We do not know if the rumours are first hand or have been churned a lot of times. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:08 5:05 Higgins: Summaries of anonymous witnesses contain generic hearsay, unsourced and undated information. Their probative value is nil. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:05 5:03 Higgins: Witness failed to connect Kenyatta to Mungiki. There is no evidence that my client solicited Mungiki's support. Instead you will hear his denouncement of their activities. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:03 5:00 Higgins: Witness 9 appears in the analysis tables. He did not witness payments made to Mungiki to purchase weapons. Wednesday September 28, 2011 5:00 4:58 Higgins: Witness gave contradictory accounts of various alleged meetings. His source of information undermines his credibility. His shadow's evidence is devastating- He has never met Kenyatta, he has never been to Yaya. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:58 4:56 Higgins: Witness 4 changed date of Yaya meeting from 25 November to the 17th and the location from a downstairs cafe to the second floor. He also claims that Uhuru attended the State House meeting having earlier failed to place my client there. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:56 4:54 Higgins: He claims that Kenyatta told Mungiki that he would organise a meeting with Kibaki at State House during a meeting at Yaya Centre at 8pm. Logs showed the cafe was closed at 6.48pm. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:54 4:51 Higgins: The witness makes no reference to Kenyatta's presence in the Nairobi Club meeting. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:51 4:50 Higgins: His first statement makes no mention of Kenyatta. He does not put a date to what seems the November State House meeting. It is clear he was never in that alleged meeting. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:50 4:48 Higgins: Witness 4 memory improves with age, a classic example of an unreliable witness. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:48 4:47 Higgins: Prosecution was informed of these developments. Defence submits that what we have unearthed is devastating to the prosecution and reduces the witnesses probative value to zero. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:47 4:46 Higgins: Finer details of extortion attempts and threatening emails are with the Chamber and all parties. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:46 4:44 Higgins: Witness 12 told the defence that he had only met Kenyatta once. He wanted relocation from Kenya. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:44 4:44 Higgins: He said Kenyatta did not fund the violence. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:44 4:43 Higgins: Both witnesses were informed that the defence of Kenyatta wanted nothing to do with them. Witness 12 told us that Kenyatta preached peace during PEV and that he wasn't Mungiki. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:43 4:40 Higgins: Witness 11 sent threatening emails to the defence. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:40 4:37 Higgins: The counsel confirmed this fact. He also said that the witness were disenchanted by Kenyatta's team to shoot down extortion attempt. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:37 4:36 Higgins: We requested an independent counsel whether we had correctly identified the witnesses. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:36 4:34 Higgins: Their names were given by MP Lewis Nguyai, who will testify in the course of this hearing. They gave exculpatory evidence. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:34 4:33 Higgins: They were interviewed by prosecution after Feb 2011. They gave wide ranging and incriminating account of his alleged role in PEV and association with Mungiki. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:33 4:32 Higgins: Witnesses 11 and 12 are two of the three most reliable sources and forms widest plank of prosecution case against Kenyatta. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:32 4:31 Higgins: Each item of prosecution case is inherently flawed and unreliable, hearsay. Close scrutiny will reveal that Kenyatta case lies in the category of unfounded allegations. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:31 4:29 Higgins: We have analysed prosecution's evidence. Eager to identify Kenyatta specific documents the result is astonishing. The main plank in my client's case is based on three witnesses. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:29 4:27 Higgins: Credibility is central. We will demonstrate that main witnesses relied by prosecution are flawed and unreliable. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:27 4:26 Uhuru's lawyer Gillian Higgins: Probative value that will help the Chamber assess whether the case will proceed to trial demands that prosecution witnesses be credible. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:26 4:23 Uhuru's lawyer: We will dis-construct the prosecution case. There is no evidence of individual criminal responsibility on Kenyatta's part. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:23 4:21 Judge Trendafilova says it is the turn of Kenyatta to make submissions. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:21 4:20 Defence is through with its cross examination. The Chamber thanks Mr Mwangi for his testimony. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:20 4:19 Mwangi: Cabinet decisions are implemented by different agencies. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:19 4:16 Mwangi: I received NSAC minutes including those I skipped. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:16 4:13 Mwangi: Moi appointed Muthaura as permanent representative to the United Nations in 1993. He was later moved to Arsuha. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:13 4:10 Mwangi says He had no idea that Muthaura would be a suspect when he penned an opinion piece in 2009. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:10 4:06 Defence cross-examines Mr Mwangi. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:06 4:04 Judge Trendafilova asks the court officer to usher Muthaura's witness Thuita Mwangi Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:04 4:02 Day 7 of the confirmation of charges hearings start. Wednesday September 28, 2011 4:02 Wednesday September 28, 2011
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Post by nowayhaha on Sept 27, 2011 17:41:51 GMT 3
Court takes a thirty minute break Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:31 5:31 Mwangi: Another key recommendation was deployment of other security agencies over and above regular police to cover the whole country. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:31 5:30 Mwangi: NSAC identified violence hotspots and gave proposals to deploy extra resources. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:30 5:26 Mwangi: NSAC would not override the legal mandate of such organs. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:26 5:25 Mwangi: Committee did not delve into operational issues. We were not mandated to issue orders to security agencies. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:25 5:20 Mwangi: It is up to relevant ministries to deliberate on NSAC recommendations but they are not binding. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:20 5:18 Mwangi: Muthaura does not give direction to any NSAC member. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:18 5:15 Mwangi: NSAC works in a consensual basis. The chair guides discussions and ensures that those with expertise brief the meeting. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:15 5:10 Mwangi: NSAC does not have executive authority. It is an advisory body that makes proposals. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:10 5:09 Mwangi: He also chairs other diverse meetings in government including disaster response meetings, inter-ministerial meetings at the level of PSs. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:09 5:07 Mwangi: He chairs NSAC meetings but does not have a decision-making role or exercise executive authority. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:07 5:06 Mwangi: Muthaura's role is largely administrative. He does not get involved in operational issues. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:06 5:04 Mwangi: Muthaura reports directly to the President. He serves as a link between the presidency and other arms of government and communicates policy. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:04 5:03 Court is back Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:03 5:01 Court goes into private session. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:01 5:00 Mwangi: PS internal security at the time was Cyrus Gituai and he reported to his minister. He did not report to Muthaura. Tuesday September 27, 2011 5:00 4:58 Mwangi: Police commissioner had authority over the police and he never reported to Muthaura directly. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:58 4:57 Mwangi: Muthaura played a role in the meetings to the extent that he was Secretary to the Cabinet. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:57 4:56 Mwangi: Minister would get briefings from police and NSIS over the security situation. NSAC invited PSs who had certain competencies such as humanitarian response to meetings. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:56 4:53 Mwangi: Internal Security minister would attend meetings if he felt need to get a briefing and to give guidance and direction. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:53 4:52 Mwangi: NSAC played an advisory role and would report to the cabinet sub-committee on security. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:52 4:51 Mwangi: He recalls that Michael Gichangi was NSIS boss, Ali was police commissioner, AG Amos Wako, Internal Security minister John Michuki during the post election violence period. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:51 4:49 Mwangi: I have been a member of the National Security Advisory Committee (NSAC) since 2003. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:49 4:45 Mwangi enumerates his previous job postings culminating in his current job. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:45 4:44 Mwangi: I am a Kikuyu and married to a Kalenjin. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:44 4:42 Defence leads Mwangi in giving his evidence. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:42 4:42 He identifies himself as Thuita Mwangi, the Foreign Affairs permanent secretary . Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:42 4:40 Muthaura's witness swears to tell the truth over the course of hist testimony. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:40 4:40 Judge Trendafilova to witness : You can object to self-incriminatory statements. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:40 4:39 She tells the witness that he is under obligation to tell the truth and the court has jurisdiction over giving false testimony. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:39 4:37 Judge Trendafilova informs the witness on the order of questioning. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:37 4:36 Court is back in session. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:36 4:21 Judge Trendafilova suspends the hearing to deliberate over documents that defence wants to give Muthaura's witness to refer to as he testifies. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:21 4:19 Judge Trendafilova says the Chamber only needs the witness to recollect what happened during the material time. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:19 4:18 Khan: We are not tampering with the witness statement. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:18 4:17 Judge Ekaterina Trendafilova asks Khan if all documents are disclosed and says the witness does not need to see them. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:17 4:11 Prosecution says it is not obligated to provide the defence with material. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:11 4:08 Muthaura's lawyer Karim Khan has the floor. He accuses the prosecution of playing its cards under the table. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:08 4:04 Judge Ekaterina Trendafilova asks the court officer to usher in the witness. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:04 4:04 Today's proceedings will centre on the questioning of Muthaura's second witness. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:04 4:03 Day 6 of the confirmation of charges hearing gets underway in The Hague. Tuesday September 27, 2011 4:03
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Post by nowayhaha on Sept 26, 2011 19:06:33 GMT 3
Mr Mwanza: We would have a lot of issues to discuss. We had some names that were given to us and we discussed them. I don't wish to discuss names. Monday September 26, 2011 7:04 7:03 Mr Mwanza: Usually the district security intelligence Committee met four times, but we also had informal meetings. It was on 28th, 29th, 30th and 31st. We discussed basically security issues to do with the violence in Naivasha. Monday September 26, 2011 7:03
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Post by nowayhaha on Sept 26, 2011 18:57:45 GMT 3
Mr Mwanza: There are times that the intelligence would provide information directly. Every information would be relayed to me to act accordingly. But we did not receive information from the intelligence on impending attacks. Monday September 26, 2011 6:56 6:54 Prosecutions reads out a statement from the then Naivasha OCPD: On the 9th January, 2008, I received info that there could be a likely attack on people considered to be foreigners in Naivasha. This refers to Luos, Luhyas. Kalenjin and Kisiis.
Mr Mwanza: I didn't receive that information directly. But in the district security intelligence meeting we agreed to heighten security. Monday September 26, 2011 6:54 6:50 Mr Mwanza: We share information with OCPD on major issues, and ordinarily he shares information with me. It would surprising if he did not share information on impending attacks. Monday September 26, 2011 6:50 6:48 Mr Mwanza: Naivash is very important to the Kenyan economy because of the flowers and the tourism industry there. Monday September 26, 2011 6:48
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Post by nowayhaha on Sept 26, 2011 18:47:59 GMT 3
Mr Mwanza: Naivasha flower farms concentrate on cut flowers which are mainly exported to Europe and Asia. It is a lucrative business for the people of Naivasha. Monday September 26, 2011 6:47 6:42 Prosecution now to examine the witness. Monday September 26, 2011 6:42
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