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Post by mbuta on Feb 20, 2012 16:36:13 GMT 3
...in a London Hospital...
Anyone who can substantiate this? We don't really want to go the Karume way, do we?
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Post by Mr Defence on Feb 20, 2012 16:53:33 GMT 3
...could be true but no media house will touch it....fear of the karume debacle.....only circulating in social media
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Post by mzee on Feb 20, 2012 17:11:37 GMT 3
What?
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Post by nok on Feb 20, 2012 17:13:08 GMT 3
Hold your horses. Conflicting reports in twitter.
Some are saying he is a life in Kenya !
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Post by mbuta on Feb 20, 2012 17:27:00 GMT 3
SOCIAL MEDIA rumours force Govt to clarify that Minister Michuki is being treated at Aga Khan Hospital, Nairobi after a stint in the UK. - Source Nation.
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Post by phil on Feb 20, 2012 18:07:36 GMT 3
At times, people like Alfred Mutua ought just to shut up.Mutua's one liner statement has just added to the confusion and given credence to the rumours. One would think discussing Michuki's health compromises national security.
Michuki is not a young man and was already working for the colonial government before majority of Kenyans were born. He has not been seen in public for months now. Just last week, Michuki was discharged from a London hospital and now we hear he is re-admitted at Aga Khan and that he is responding well to treatment.
It's obvious all is not well with John Michuki and I wish they would borrow a leaf from the Prime Minister who was unexpectedly admitted to Nairobi Hospital for head surgery sometime ago.
Then, information on the PM's condition flowed freely and selected persons, from Kibaki to William Ruto including a group of supporters from Kibera, were allowed to see him and talk to him one-on-one inside his hospital ward. The press were also allowed to photograph the PM while his doctors gave periodic updates.
Michuki's case appears to be a special one if Alfred Mutua is to be believed. For the late Michael Wamalwa, it was the same until he flew back to Nairobi in a casket. I fear for the worst for Michuki but let's wait and see.
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Post by mzee on Feb 20, 2012 18:18:00 GMT 3
Phil, Let's hope that he gets well fast. He is a cruel man but we won't wish him harm
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Post by mank on Feb 20, 2012 18:33:32 GMT 3
Apparently John Michuki has been e-axed.
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 20, 2012 18:35:00 GMT 3
Apparently John Michuki has been e-axed. mank,this one is new to me! e-axed? as in? please help.
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Post by mank on Feb 20, 2012 18:43:59 GMT 3
Apparently John Michuki has been e-axed. mank,this one is new to me! e-axed? as in? please help. abstractly killed in electronic media
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Post by Titchaz on Feb 20, 2012 19:00:57 GMT 3
mank,this one is new to me! e-axed? as in? please help. abstractly killed in electronic media ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D...Dready wewe ni mkali!
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 20, 2012 19:18:35 GMT 3
abstractly killed in electronic media ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D...Dready wewe ni mkali! Mank, titchaz,Naelewa sasa! Beware! Abstract Electronic Assassins active! Lakini jameni, mko aje? hakuna mtu anasema may he RIP??? where is your cultivation!
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Post by hannali on Feb 20, 2012 19:26:16 GMT 3
Michuki is undergoing treatment for Cancer btwn the UK and Aga Khan hospital. I wish him the best
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Post by destiny on Feb 20, 2012 19:28:43 GMT 3
Michuki has been the best performer in Kibaki's admin since 2002 although he has made some blunders like raiding the Standard Media. Many Kenyans, including me, have a soft soft for this Mzee. He brought sanity on our roads and made Mungiki thugs run out of town. He's never a saint, no one is, but he seems to have made up his shortcomings with admirable record in any given ministry he has held. That's exactly the kind of president i would want.
All the best Bwana M ichuki and speedy recovery sir!
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Post by Onyango Oloo on Feb 20, 2012 20:42:31 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on Feb 20, 2012 21:22:39 GMT 3
At times, people like Alfred Mutua ought just to shut up.Mutua's one liner statement has just added to the confusion and given credence to the rumours. One would think discussing Michuki's health compromises national security. Michuki is not a young man and was already working for the colonial government before majority of Kenyans were born. He has not been seen in public for months now. Just last week, Michuki was discharged from a London hospital and now we hear he is re-admitted at Aga Khan and that he is responding well to treatment. It's obvious all is not well with John Michuki and I wish they would borrow a leaf from the Prime Minister who was unexpectedly admitted to Nairobi Hospital for head surgery sometime ago. Then, information on the PM's condition flowed freely and selected persons, from Kibaki to William Ruto including a group of supporters from Kibera, were allowed to see him and talk to him one-on-one inside his hospital ward. The press were also allowed to photograph the PM while his doctors gave periodic updates. Michuki's case appears to be a special one if Alfred Mutua is to be believed. For the late Michael Wamalwa, it was the same until he flew back to Nairobi in a casket. I fear for the worst for Michuki but let's wait and see. Phil I am sure that you are aware of the debate that ensued about whether the PM's media team handled his illness well, and I was the first one to raise the issue of hoping it was not a cover up when it was first reported that he was just 'fatigued'. Here is what you said replying to Pmaniac: p'maniac,
You have completely misread and misunderstood my sentiments. When Denis Onyango first released a statement on the PM's admission, he spoke of fatigue and tiredness. Mr. Onyango was releasing this generalized statement a day after the PM had already been admitted, disgnosis done and operated ON. So he knew, right from the start, that the PM was not operated because of tiredness but because of an accidental trauma to the head in his car. Call it what you will, but I cannot understand why he chose to mislead the public on this matter of very high public interest. If I were him, I would have waited until Dr. Olunya released his own statement which came a few hours after Denis Onyango had put the entire country into panic mode! It goes without saying Onyango is a pales in comprison to the former holder of that office Salim Lone. Onyango cannot even update a website, for God's sake! He has no business holding an office so crucial.
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Post by adongo23456 on Feb 20, 2012 21:38:22 GMT 3
At times, people like Alfred Mutua ought just to shut up.Mutua's one liner statement has just added to the confusion and given credence to the rumours. One would think discussing Michuki's health compromises national security. Michuki is not a young man and was already working for the colonial government before majority of Kenyans were born. He has not been seen in public for months now. Just last week, Michuki was discharged from a London hospital and now we hear he is re-admitted at Aga Khan and that he is responding well to treatment. It's obvious all is not well with John Michuki and I wish they would borrow a leaf from the Prime Minister who was unexpectedly admitted to Nairobi Hospital for head surgery sometime ago. Then, information on the PM's condition flowed freely and selected persons, from Kibaki to William Ruto including a group of supporters from Kibera, were allowed to see him and talk to him one-on-one inside his hospital ward. The press were also allowed to photograph the PM while his doctors gave periodic updates. Michuki's case appears to be a special one if Alfred Mutua is to be believed. For the late Michael Wamalwa, it was the same until he flew back to Nairobi in a casket. I fear for the worst for Michuki but let's wait and see. Phil I am sure that you are aware of the debate that ensued about whether the PM's media team handled his illness well, and I was the first one to raise the issue of hoping it was not a cover up when it was first reported that he was just 'fatigued'. Here is what you said replying to Pmaniac: p'maniac,
You have completely misread and misunderstood my sentiments. When Denis Onyango first released a statement on the PM's admission, he spoke of fatigue and tiredness. Mr. Onyango was releasing this generalized statement a day after the PM had already been admitted, disgnosis done and operated ON. So he knew, right from the start, that the PM was not operated because of tiredness but because of an accidental trauma to the head in his car. Call it what you will, but I cannot understand why he chose to mislead the public on this matter of very high public interest. If I were him, I would have waited until Dr. Olunya released his own statement which came a few hours after Denis Onyango had put the entire country into panic mode! It goes without saying Onyango is a pales in comprison to the former holder of that office Salim Lone. Onyango cannot even update a website, for God's sake! He has no business holding an office so crucial. Kamale,I think the PM is OK. It is Michuki who is reported to be under the weather. I wish him well. But I do recall you during the PM's sickness. Some of you actually insisted he was dead one way or the other. The man is still walking. That is why I keep away from death debates. As long as I can wake up, I am fine. That is what it is today.
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Post by hannali on Feb 20, 2012 22:00:51 GMT 3
Folks
Michuki is alive and on treatment for cancer
Period!
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Post by phil on Feb 20, 2012 22:18:33 GMT 3
At times, people like Alfred Mutua ought just to shut up.Mutua's one liner statement has just added to the confusion and given credence to the rumours. One would think discussing Michuki's health compromises national security. Michuki is not a young man and was already working for the colonial government before majority of Kenyans were born. He has not been seen in public for months now. Just last week, Michuki was discharged from a London hospital and now we hear he is re-admitted at Aga Khan and that he is responding well to treatment. It's obvious all is not well with John Michuki and I wish they would borrow a leaf from the Prime Minister who was unexpectedly admitted to Nairobi Hospital for head surgery sometime ago. Then, information on the PM's condition flowed freely and selected persons, from Kibaki to William Ruto including a group of supporters from Kibera, were allowed to see him and talk to him one-on-one inside his hospital ward. The press were also allowed to photograph the PM while his doctors gave periodic updates. Michuki's case appears to be a special one if Alfred Mutua is to be believed. For the late Michael Wamalwa, it was the same until he flew back to Nairobi in a casket. I fear for the worst for Michuki but let's wait and see. Phil I am sure that you are aware of the debate that ensued about whether the PM's media team handled his illness well, and I was the first one to raise the issue of hoping it was not a cover up when it was first reported that he was just 'fatigued'. Here is what you said replying to Pmaniac: p'maniac,
You have completely misread and misunderstood my sentiments. When Denis Onyango first released a statement on the PM's admission, he spoke of fatigue and tiredness. Mr. Onyango was releasing this generalized statement a day after the PM had already been admitted, disgnosis done and operated ON. So he knew, right from the start, that the PM was not operated because of tiredness but because of an accidental trauma to the head in his car. Call it what you will, but I cannot understand why he chose to mislead the public on this matter of very high public interest. If I were him, I would have waited until Dr. Olunya released his own statement which came a few hours after Denis Onyango had put the entire country into panic mode! It goes without saying Onyango is a pales in comprison to the former holder of that office Salim Lone. Onyango cannot even update a website, for God's sake! He has no business holding an office so crucial. And how does this contradict what I am saying now? Kamale, you simply want to divert attention but Jukwaa is smarter than that. You are trying to insinuate something here. I was responding directly to Politicalmaniac on a specific issue and as you can appreciate, the PM went to hospital for a routine check up as a result of a persistent headache. Once diagnosis was done, his doctors gave us daily updates and all Kenyans from all walks of life visited him in hospital. Right now, no one is even aware what ails Michuki or that he was actually admitted in ICU in London and now in Nairobi. If you care to look at my other threads you will discover that I have not been happy with Onyango's performance as PM's spokesman. The man is old school and challenged on current trends. He is not on twitter nor facebook and finds it difficult to update the PM's website. Bure kabisa.
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Post by mzee on Feb 20, 2012 22:22:42 GMT 3
I remember Kamale wishing the PM death again and again. He would not be satisfied unless the doctors said the man was dying. Anything else was a cover up. It was just pathetic on kamales part. I for one wish michuki a quick recovery however evil he might be.
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Post by b6k on Feb 20, 2012 22:48:59 GMT 3
Phil's first post was spot on. Michuki is rather elderly & has been a hard worker since colonial days. He should've been enjoying his sunset years on the golf course not tending to snakes that that were averse to rattling. The way his hand was shaking when the vote for speaker of the house was being taken in '08 showed he shouldn't have been involving himself in such highstakes political games.
What's the deal with cancer, folks? Anyang Nyon'go - prostrate cancer, Beth Mugo - breast cancer, Samuel Kivuitu - throat cancer, Njenga Karume - prostrate cancer, John Michuki - some sort of cancer...
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Post by jakaswanga on Feb 20, 2012 23:22:41 GMT 3
Folks Michuki is alive and on treatment for cancer Period! Must be tongue in cheek. Since it is possible to reason you cannot be reffered from a London hospital to a Nairobi hospital, unless it is a terminal journey. Last stop. Better die near home with the smell of mugumo trees in ones nose, than carry to the grave, as last sight, the indifferent blue gazes of caucasian opaques!
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Post by kangethe on Feb 21, 2012 0:48:03 GMT 3
Its sad that as a country we've been "conditioned" to always have a "political" reaction to news of any leader's health misadventure. In the process we miss out on informing our public about the diseases that continue to drain our resources. Case in point when the late Wamalwa passed on, people went out of their way to comment, same thing happened with the PM's illness, Karume's scenario and now the Michuki spectacle. In our political banter we miss a huge Public Service Announcement.
What we fail to realize that in these moments we should seize the opportunity to educate our masses on the illnesses that could easily be prevented in a number of ways. It pains me as medical practitioner to see cancer treatment improving in the developed world. Metastatic testicular cancer—virtually lethal a few decades ago—can now be cured. Many cancers can be avoided by something as simple as change of diet.
In Kenya, unfortunately, these advances go unrealized mainly due to the prohibitive nature that is associated with advanced stage of these diseases by time of presentation to the service centers. In saying this, I do not in any way minimize the costs of training, drugs (chemo/radiation) but all am saying is it would be much cheaper if say the govt spokesman spoke of these diseases and educate the public. In so doing, I would hope a lot more would present themselves earlier and possibly put a dent to what I tend to think is a ticking time-bomb.
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Post by Omwenga on Feb 21, 2012 1:01:19 GMT 3
I remember Kamale wishing the PM death again and again. He would not be satisfied unless the doctors said the man was dying. Anything else was a cover up. It was just pathetic on kamales part. I for one wish michuki a quick recovery however evil he might be. This really says it all about a person--the ill-wishing for nothing but pure hatred.
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Post by mank on Feb 21, 2012 7:57:37 GMT 3
I remember Kamale wishing the PM death again and again. He would not be satisfied unless the doctors said the man was dying. Anything else was a cover up. It was just pathetic on kamales part. I for one wish michuki a quick recovery however evil he might be. This really says it all about a person--the ill-wishing for nothing but pure hatred.I find it difficult to believe that Kamale (or anybody) would have wished Raila death. Its a matter of curiosity that Kamale has not challenged you on the matter, but I am not able to take his silence as confession of guilt on such an issue. For my curiosity, Mzee, might you have a quotation of Kamale's wish that Raila died? Earlier when this thiread came up I googled the subject of the thread, and one link that came up was from another Kenya forum - at that forum I read someone's comment to the effect that John Michuki and Amb. Muthaura are two people that all Kenyans would like dead. I found that such a disturbing claim, and would be surprised to see a confirmation that our Kamale has made a similar wish on someone.
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