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Post by mbuta on Mar 26, 2012 18:48:21 GMT 3
CABINET RESHUFFLE: Balala sacked, Eugene Wamalwa (Justice), Ongeri (Foreign Affairs), Mutula (Edu), Mwazo (Tourism), Wetangula (Trade), Githae (Finance), Mwakwere (Env), Jamleck Kamau (Nrb).
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Post by osachkosochigaa on Mar 26, 2012 18:50:04 GMT 3
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Post by OtishOtish on Mar 26, 2012 18:53:55 GMT 3
Too late. The ICC train left the station long ago. Wamalwa won't help.
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Post by topnotch on Mar 26, 2012 18:55:10 GMT 3
What the?  ?? Eugene as Justice Minister |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 26, 2012 18:56:09 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers.
Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 18:57:04 GMT 3
It seems to me that since they couldn't fire Mutula Kilonzo they just demoted him giving him the Education portfolio.
Kenyans while our political elites are salavating over oil and how they'll ripe the Turkana and every other Kenyan off; they tell us that Eugene Wamalwa is our new Justice minister. one has to laugh. Even if I don't like a person, I can at least respect them if they are intelligent. Now this Wamalwa guy, he is just thick. All he has going is the hassler in him. A wangster really.
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Post by gemagema on Mar 26, 2012 19:15:44 GMT 3
And Mutula Kilonzo is demoted because of fighting Impunity.
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2012 19:18:29 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers. Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed. Look at this empty debe so desperate to hijack this thread with obnoxious and retrogressive G-7 politics. Start a thread to critique the PM if you so wish. |
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Post by topnotch on Mar 26, 2012 19:21:34 GMT 3
Can someone explain to me the rationale behind Balala's sacking? Isn't it ODM politics as usual?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 19:22:15 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers. Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed. Look at this empty debe so desperate to hijack this thread with obnoxious and retrogressive G-7 politics. Start a thread to critique the PM if you so wish. gosh they couldn't possibly start another one. Just today they started one by Moses Kuria and guess who it's about? And they say, that we harp on Raila and yet they can't seem to get enough of him. |
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Post by kamalet on Mar 26, 2012 19:22:43 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers. Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed. Look at this empty debe so desperate to hijack this thread with obnoxious and retrogressive G-7 politics. Start a thread to critique the PM if you so wish. Actually what is being hijacked of this thread by discussing the dismissal of Balala? This thread is about a cabinet reshuffle that affected several people and you cannot shut up people Bw. Phil! |
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Post by gemagema on Mar 26, 2012 19:25:24 GMT 3
Can someone explain to me the rationale behind Balala's sacking? Isn't it ODM politics as usual? Rationale? You only maintain and sustain faithful children..and maybe prodigal (sorry and returning) children. But disobedient and disowning children must be disciplined thoroughly and likewise disowned. Its all about politics |
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2012 19:27:15 GMT 3
What the? ?? Eugene as Justice Minister A big threat to constitutional implementation and other judicial and police reforms. Whereas Mutula has been steadfast in supporting the ICC trials and correctly interpreting that the suspects cannot run for president while on trial, Eugene has publicly opposed the ICC trials and has repeatedly been seen at G-7 rallies with prime suspects in public rallies. Eugene knows which side of his bread is buttered. Eugene has also not matured politically but this appointment is a clear indicator that Kibaki is the big hand behind G-7. |
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Post by topnotch on Mar 26, 2012 19:28:05 GMT 3
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only."
~Charles Dickens.
In other words, this is A Tale of Two Interests.
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Post by destiny on Mar 26, 2012 19:34:44 GMT 3
Can someone truthfully explain to me why Balala the best tourism minister since independence was humiliated like this by Agwambo? Lakini jameni, he should have been replaced with a fellow Muslim  |
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Post by OtishOtish on Mar 26, 2012 19:38:45 GMT 3
Destiny: I recall that Raila one point suspended one or two ministers, and he was reminded (by all and very loudly) that he is not "the appointing authority". Indeed, the "appointing authority" quickly struck down the suspension(s). What was your question?
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2012 19:40:13 GMT 3
Can someone explain to me the rationale behind Balala's sacking? Isn't it ODM politics as usual? There is an appointing authority to cabinet positions. Cabinet positions are public positions and not individual positions. Balala sacked himself from cabinet. Personally, I think this was one which was long overdue. |
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Post by topnotch on Mar 26, 2012 19:48:14 GMT 3
Can someone explain to me the rationale behind Balala's sacking? Isn't it ODM politics as usual? There is an appointing authority to cabinet positions. Cabinet positions are public positions and not individual positions. Balala sacked himself from cabinet. Personally, I think this was one which was long overdue. Phil, The merits, or lack of, notwithstanding: do you in all honesty believe Raila had no hand in Balala's sacking? |
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Post by barmasaiengkeiyo on Mar 26, 2012 19:52:23 GMT 3
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Post by phil on Mar 26, 2012 19:52:26 GMT 3
There is an appointing authority to cabinet positions. Cabinet positions are public positions and not individual positions. Balala sacked himself from cabinet. Personally, I think this was one which was long overdue. Phil, The merits, or lack of, notwithstanding: do you in all honesty believe Raila had no hand in Balala's sacking? Of course he did. He IS the appointing authority. Balala is now free to run his political party and his fm station. |
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Post by job on Mar 26, 2012 19:54:05 GMT 3
And Mutula Kilonzo is demoted because of fighting Impunity. From PNU's side, Uhuru has finally injected official impunity into the Justice Ministry; not only by kicking out independent-minded and straight-shooting Mutula Kilonzo, but also planting a pliant poddle and sycophantic side-kick, Eugene Wamalwa as replacement. Technically, the Justice Ministry is at the heart of reforms. It is also the parent Ministry overseeing the IEBC and elections. Thus Uhuru has planted Eugene Wamalwa (a self declared G-7 presidential candidate) to technically oversee the conduct of the next elections). There's going to be cause for concern with this broke novice at that particular vantage (subject for another day). Mutula not only fought impunity relentlessly at the Justice Ministry, but also succesfully steered the delivery of a new Constitution. In fact Mutula Kilonzo has been the biggest cabinet achiever under this Coalition government (forget the mythical 'hard-working' thieves). Mutula has demonstrated the kind of independence expected from a top bureaucrat who views the country holistically. He was able to work with both sides of the coalition - a suitable type to play one of key agents in the post-Kibaki-era leadership. On the biggest issues of concern to wananchi, whether on the Katiba; Judicial appointments; ICC process; and reforms in general, Mutula has been on the right side of history. His demotion may signify the commencement of Kenya's non-cooperation with ICC; his replacement being among the MPs that escorted Uhuru and Ruto who sang at the court's entrance steps. Poodle Eugene Wamalwa,a confirmed Uhuru puppet, would not hesitate to recklessly bend Kenya's integrity to reward (save) this impunity-merchant responsible for his cabinet appointment. Let's see how much his pay-back to Uhuru costs Kenya as a country. What a shame! |
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Post by jakaswanga on Mar 26, 2012 19:54:57 GMT 3
What the? ?? Eugene as Justice Minister Sometimes a man can laugh at his own coffin, only for the coffin to have the last laugh the next day. There is some Luo wisdom like that, to prevent people from cracking jokes at coffins as they pass by, and some coffins are really ugly. Despite this wisdom, I am with Kathure-K on this one! It seems to me that since they couldn't fire Mutula Kilonzo they just demoted him giving him the Education portfolio. Kenyans while our political elites are salavating over oil and how they'll ripe the Turkana and every other Kenyan off; they tell us that Eugene Wamalwa is our new Justice minister. one has to laugh. Even if I don't like a person, I can at least respect them if they are intelligent. Now this Wamalwa guy, he is just thick. All he has going is the hassler in him. A wangster really. The justice ministry is very crucial at this crucial stage in the implementation of the new Katiba. Added to the complexities of the ICC. And Eugene Wamalwa is the new choice. I will disobey Luo wisdom and laugh at my coffin! This is of course a mockery of the justice docket. When you mock justice during peace, fail to take your country seriously, neither her present nor her future, throw caution and prudence to the dogs in silly succession calculations, then there is another Luo caution I think of. ''Ichung' e tie ng'owo, idwong'o kore, to ing'eyo iye en kombe ndemu!"TRANSLATION: You are knocking on the 'chest' of a great baobab tree, knowing well the hollow inside is the nest of the (flying) killer ndemu snake! Given I am convinced Kibaki nolonger has his mind, it is Raila who now must explain this mockery to Kenyans. .
Poor Dr. Studds. His political boss is now Waziri Bandia! Let us see how he pledges his loyalty! |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 26, 2012 20:01:52 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers. Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed. MwalimuMkuu. This Balala news is the shocker . Balala getting sacked is very unfortunate as one of the founding member of O.D.M. actually he and Uhuru coined that name www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Uhuru+and+Balala+coined+ODM+/-/1064/1372468/-/u73wab/-/index.htmlThis is the asante he gets for opposing the leader (actually of late he had softened his stand as he was concentrating with his ministry due to threats from Al-Shabaab/Al-qeeda and travel advisories against Kenya from the tourist countries.) Just like Ruto this could be his stepping stone in his political journey .He should use the lemon to make lemonade actually rather than forming another party as he wanted he should join Ruto and Uhuru for in their quest for presidency . |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 26, 2012 20:14:28 GMT 3
This is as interesting as it can get. Mutula is now at the Education ministry with Mwazo and Jamleck Kamau coming in as new ministers. Balala, arguably the best tourism minister ever, dared the baba na mama of ODM and like Ruto before him, he had to go. Very sad indeed. MwalimuMkuu. This Balala news is the shocker . Balala getting sacked is very unfortunate as one of the founding member of O.D.M. actually he and Uhuru coined that name www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Uhuru+and+Balala+coined+ODM+/-/1064/1372468/-/u73wab/-/index.htmlThis is the asante he gets for opposing the leader (actually of late he had softened his stand as he was concentrating with his ministry due to threats from Al-Shabaab/Al-qeeda and travel advisories against Kenya from the tourist countries.) Just like Ruto this could be his stepping stone in his political journey .He should use the lemon to make lemonade actually rather than forming another party as he wanted he should join Ruto and Uhuru for in their quest for presidency . It is shocking indeed, but again, if you have learnt a thing or two about ODM, it may not be overly surprising. That is how they operate. You try to be independent-minded, you go. Your record not withstanding. But will they admit? I am really beginning to fear for Mudavadi, at this rate, he must be next on line. By the way, read Uhuru here: www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Uhuru+tells+Raila+to+prepare+for+defeat/-/1064/1374062/-/s65dv2/-/index.htmlIt looks to me as though the Kibaki nusu mkate is now bigger (has more cabinet members) than their partner. |
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Post by subsaharanite on Mar 26, 2012 20:23:03 GMT 3
Destiny,
Balala bit the hand that used to feed him out in the public.
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