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Post by mank on Apr 4, 2015 22:11:08 GMT 3
I recall that conversation BIL. But what caught my attention today is how much you have sold me to Uhuru... and the guy ain't buying. It must be that he doesn't stop at Jukwaa. As for me BIL, a chain of things in life command that I keep my MIA streak. There will be a better day.
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Post by mank on Feb 23, 2015 23:46:23 GMT 3
The state has no business running a company like this Geothermal Development Company. Such business should be sold out to private enterprise, or it will always be a sink hole of public resources. The state can own the business through shares, but the company should compete with others as a private entity. Meanwhile a mouthful from a president of another country:
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Post by mank on Feb 22, 2015 20:55:12 GMT 3
Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations. Really? Is that so? Well, then. I better not disappoint my fans (mwalimu etc.) Here we go: Bensouda does indeed have very strong evidence against Uhuru. The withdrawal of the charges---which was done "without prejudice"--is temporary and is solely intended to lure Uhuru and his legal team into relaxing. The case will be resumed when people least expect it. How's that? Will it do? That's so funny.
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Post by mank on Feb 22, 2015 12:02:44 GMT 3
WHAT MY ROLE WAS ... written with such authority, you think you are about to be materially informed in the topic. So what was her role in anything? Is this not the woman who was alleged to have purchased loads of guns in 2007? Why not address that issue now?
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Post by mank on Feb 22, 2015 11:49:17 GMT 3
[quote source="/post/132270/thread" Where art thou, amigo Njakip? People are waiting Oh! Here I am. And the people are waiting for? o I was in good moods when I posted that, amigo. It was meant for a light moment. But if you insist, I have an answer: Defense for Benz nonsense, amigo. You are the one who argues that she has a good case, even when she personally submits that she got nothing to advance the very ambitious allegations.By the way, is Ruto/Sang case still going, or did they fold incommunicado?
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Post by mank on Feb 9, 2015 7:49:24 GMT 3
I am tempted to think that perhaps what we are lookinig for is to be found under something other than a stone ... perhaps in a rotting trunk of a tree, in an old well, or ... well, you are capable of your own imaginations ... go ahead and imagine. In other words I am saying that you just alluded to another element for Ndugu Abdulmote's thread ... Kenya dark culture. Indeed, Friend Mank. But resist the temptation or run the risk of finding something. Seen, amigo. I thought you missed my triple negatives... but since you multiplied them over, I know we are together. But did you, amigo, know that there are no stones on Kenyatta Avenue ? From the Waiyaki roundabout, you would have to go to the Nyayo fountain to find a stone ...if indeed it still remains? Whuo! There are'nt many stones to turn after all! Let's go turun it upside down. Seriously, you cant shoot and kill people anywhere close to that that part of town, I dont care when... Seven or 13 Oclock, and escape without notice. Have they asked the hookers, by the way? If they wanted to turn all stones, I trust they did that already.
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Post by mank on Feb 9, 2015 4:19:41 GMT 3
I think we should wait for the former Kenyan's response to the Uhuru defence! Where art thou, amigo Njakip? People are waiting
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Post by mank on Feb 9, 2015 3:26:32 GMT 3
"October 3, 2011 shooting that Mr Muchai at the time described as an attempted execution. .... The attackers were also known to Mr Muchai’s host, according to police. ... The case is still being investigated." [In 2015]
by the
"Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) ... [which is] accused [by the dead man] of being `most unprofessional and unprincipled'."
www.nation.co.ke/news/Camera-reveals-clues-on-city-killing-of-MP-/-/1056/2617532/-/ocot5g/-/index.html "A group of detectives from the homicide department at the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) were dispatched to Kampala yesterday after failing to find the details of the original and current owners of the car in their Nairobi registries."
A whole group. That is thorough, if true. Serious stuff. No stone left unturned sort of thing. Why the information can't be obtained by phone/fax/email between Kenya and Uganda is not clear. Someone has to go there? Why not one person? Still, perhaps there is something re-assuring in knowing that a whole group is over there while other groups are "conducting operations on the ground".
Are you amigo suggesting that someone is laying new stones in the guise of turning all stones? When I think of all the times we have been told "no stone will be left unturned", I am tempted to think that perhaps what we are lookinig for is to be found under something other than a stone ... perhaps in a rotting trunk of a tree, in an old well, or ... well, you are capable of your own imaginations ... go ahead and imagine. In other words I am saying that you just alluded to another element for Ndugu Abdulmote's thread ... Kenya dark culture. I also note that H. E. The President has directed the police to look into the matter. ... Hua! Say what? That should help! Just for curiosity, who was looking into the matter before the direction? ...How long should we give this one? I'd say about 2 weeks max. Then it will be put under whatever stone was turned, if someone even managed to find a stone at all, and it will be time to move on ... after first accepting, of course. You know how it goes. File next to the Yebei etc. documents. Two weeks? As soon as we buy the load of .. . that stones are being turned, we are off to the next issue. That's not a matter of weeks amigo! Moments!
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Post by mank on Feb 7, 2015 9:28:42 GMT 3
Somebody tell Sonko something wise to say. What the hell is he suggesting Kenyans should do, that they have not done for the fat ones? Aren't common Kenyans also dying? Or must it make headline news to be fact?
Pole to Mr. Muchai and family ... but I regret that the Mpig syndrom as manifested by one man Sonko stole the mood.
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Post by mank on Feb 2, 2015 8:32:57 GMT 3
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Post by mank on Jan 27, 2015 1:52:36 GMT 3
A perfect example of ignorance-led hostility proudly presented by Alfred Keter completely explains why Kenya as a country is failing miserably. To be so stupid as to assert the President and his comptroller of state house would call a toll-port come weighing bridge to have released, over-loaded lorries with faulty papers belonging to a moonlighting nominated MP of a junior coalition partner!? keter's brains must have been totally neutralised, or, dare I say in these issues when men are accompanied by women, probably his muhindi side-plate sucked his brains out too, after injecting him with inducements unspeakable. he displayed the arrogance of a simpleton, the stupidity of a moron, and ridiculed himself into a silly infant: we make the laws, we can break them if we like! One becomes afraid of the slogan: power to the youth! Ati "we are the government" ... so that's government speaking ! If the intensity has any relationship with seniority, just imagine how the president's call would sound like! It would blow your ears off.
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Post by mank on Jan 25, 2015 5:10:54 GMT 3
Ndugu Abdulmote, you have me most confused!
How can you ask this? Our culture? Who are we? The 43 peoples?
We are a people of peoples... culture of cultures ... we are cultural peoples, but we don't have a culture. We have cultures. And we don't need to be one culture to be one.
We are like the Americans .. like us, they too once had cultures, but not a culture .. we follow their nyayo, only hundreds of times faster.
Unfortunately, every day I am counting more losses than gains. But for those born yesterday, we can't shed off our ancestral identities fast enough .. I spit! It is not because of difference in cultures that we have disagreements!
People cross tribal lines everyday to coin coalitions that frustrate even their brothers and mothers! Culture? Nothing to do with it.
Unless we are talking about corruption .. that unifies us really well. Corruption is our daily conversation.
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Post by mank on Jan 23, 2015 16:33:03 GMT 3
ManK That is Moonki for you...... So, are you guys of the verdict that, with his Ruto's fixers-list, QC Qhan was merely hallucinating, or given to bouts of slander and libel? That, I feel can wait. I have lots of respect for Khan's team ... and it is all earned.
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Post by mank on Jan 23, 2015 16:25:37 GMT 3
At one point the "witness" was asked whether he had given a certain account of events to the prosecution in the past, and denied it saying something like "that is from the prosecutor ....". Just what was he about to say? Not the prosecutor who was questioning him in-chief, nor the judge, had any desire to 'find out'. The good judge cut in like lightening to stop the running mouth. From there the good judge was in full control of the process, ensuring the "witness" answers questions with 'yes' and 'no'. ... and lots of private sessions. Who are they kidding? They know the result, and nothing the "witnesses" can add amounts to anything. At best they are just expanding the job to fit the time allocated to it. Now that you entertain the thought that Yebei could be alive, what do you think of Kamale's proposition? Yusuf's body is still inopportune, n Kamalet's theory casts the wider Yebei family as moral lost souls, ready to burry a wrong body for monetary gain. I didn't note that, from him. In fact I felt he neglected to explain how the other body comes into the picture ... would Khan know anything about it? How about the family? How did they determine the body was of their kin? I think Kamalet owes us more in words to embellish his imagination.... but I have not counted out the possibility of his conjecture. Remember he said the family was in the Khan ruse!
Yeah, it was with that, that he grabbed my thirst for suspense. On the other hand, my thirst for suspense with the Hague proceedings is getting thoroughly frustrated and disappointed as I watch the OTP looking so incredibly tortured by the evidence of its lost course and the absence of any face-saving holt to its public self-embarrassment. The anticlimax cannot be exaggerated.
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Post by mank on Jan 23, 2015 6:03:26 GMT 3
There is a new and amusing narrative being peddled---that, for some reason, the ICC-OTP went out of its way to fix Ruto. It probably works for the short-sighted and the dim-witted ... Last night I went through some court transcripts and records in the Ruto Case. In there, somewhere, you will find Ruto's lead counsel, QC, actually listing the people who "fixed" Ruto. Remember that one? Big, important people in GoK, all of them.
How did they "fix" him? I can't say. But some claimed that "alijiset kwa vitendo". No ICC, OTP, CIA, KGB, XYZ. Kwa vitendo.
What does that have to do with anything? I have no idea. But from the leaves, to the branches, to the trunk, and to the roots. Or the other way. That's what I learned in Form I Biology.
Team Ruto will file a "no-case-to-answer". The OTP will respond. Then we'll see what each side has. Me myself, I try not to get too excited; but if I were to bet, it wouldn't be for the criminal team. it would be for Ruto to explain why his friends had to go to a church and burn up women and little children ... like cheap firewood and discarded brush. But we'll see.
Ah, the latest witness ... I think Steynberg did a decent job: got the witness to say enough so that he could be declared a hostile witness, then explained why the witness was to be considered a lying SoB, and then told Oga Chief-Oh why the court should nevertheless hear from the Lying SoB.
I don't see any basis for the judges to grant Team Ruto's request for a stay in the proceedings. They should save their steam for the "no-case-to-answer" application.
Oh, I almost forgot this one: apparently the Constitution of Kenya is about to be changed. Or so goes the plan. The current one says that not even PORK should be shielded from the most heinous crimes known to man (and woman, of course). The new one will say that both Uhuru and Deputy Uhuru will be protected.
Some animals are ...? And other animals are ..? Amigo, are you alright? Do you really try not to get too excited? If you do, the above write up fails you. You can't be calling people "short-sighted and the dim-witted" for thinking what you don't, unless you are really excited about what you think. Now, I don't know if someone decided to fix Ruto - it is something I hope we'll find out. In fact I don't know if Ruto is an innocent man. But I know something of importance in the case: all the witenesses that have been questioned at the court on allegations against Ruto or Sang have amounted to nothing but hearsayers to blattant liers. Most have turned 180 degrees against the evidence the prosecution counted them for ... but if it is really a show of success in a case when the prosecution spends its time arguing that it's witnesses are "totally unreliable and incredible", then the prosecution has really been a success. ... and the defence is a total failure because its fight has been snatched away. I don't think there is anything big Steynberg did with the latest witness. Clearly OTP is being shown a wider door at ICC, and I think that is a good thing. At the end, if it cannot proof its case, then it cannot argue that it was denied a chance. I believe that is the whole reason Steynberg was granted his prayer.
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Post by mank on Jan 23, 2015 0:25:19 GMT 3
The DNA now proves the body belonged to Hussein Yusuf and not Meshak Yebei. For all intents and purposes, until a body is found it would be safe to assume that Yebei could be alive.......... If you now consider the fiasco at the ICC yesterday when the OTP claimed that his witness was Unreliable and the Naija judge asked why they are still listening to him you must now see a possible collapse. Today Katwa Kigen commenced his cross and in the afternoon all went quiet and a status conference was apparently called for the afternoon session. It is not clear where this case is headed to.....so lets wait for Yebei to surface! And what do the investigations say, as to why Yusuf had to die such a horrible death? (tongue cut and eyes gourged out). getting the motive for a murder right, opens eyes to a lot! At one point the "witness" was asked whether he had given a certain account of events to the prosecution in the past, and denied it saying something like "that is from the prosecutor ....". Just what was he about to say? Not the prosecutor who was questioning him in-chief, nor the judge, had any desire to 'find out'. The good judge cut in like lightening to stop the running mouth. From there the good judge was in full control of the process, ensuring the "witness" answers questions with 'yes' and 'no'. ... and lots of private sessions. Who are they kidding? They know the result, and nothing the "witnesses" can add amounts to anything. At best they are just expanding the job to fit the time allocated to it. Now that you entertain the thought that Yebei could be alive, what do you think of Kamale's proposition?
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Post by mank on Jan 23, 2015 0:07:06 GMT 3
What assurance does a common land-owner have of his property if school grounds are being grabbed?
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Post by mank on Jan 22, 2015 1:04:57 GMT 3
Ouch! OO, that doesn't sound good at all. It stinks too much "Fuata Nyayo." Freedom of expression does not mean one is entitled to say whatever, wherever. It is the man's forum, and he has every right to decide who may say what on it. That said, I think in this instance he misunderstood b6k ... although this is a fellow who has gone as far as insulting and threatening my dog. Are you trying to get me frowned upon?
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Post by mank on Jan 21, 2015 8:35:04 GMT 3
It is only telling for those who do not or choose not to understand the Luo culture and traditions...there is nothing telling there... The widow’s prospective inheritor (sing. jater, pl. joter) sleeps in the widow’s house while she is visiting her natal home. When the widow returns, she cooks the meat she brought back. The widow and her inheritor eat the meat. They engage in sexual intercourse that night, and the man must prove that he is a real inheritor. Then, the inheritor starts building their new house, helped by the widow. A widow too old to have sex selects a man who is about her age. When she returns from her natal home, her inheritor prepares a fireplace for cooking. She cooks and they eat together. They spend the night without sex. But the inheritor must keep inside the house his belongings. This is done so that visitors may know that the old man and woman stay together and love each other. With a young widow, it is practically impossible for any man to inherit her and not have sex. If a wife died, the widower follows the mourning taboos only when she was the first wife. In that event, the husband takes his children to the deceased’s parents. They stay one night and return the following day. The children are given meat or a hen by their grandparents. jambo.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/18-3&4/18-3&4%20213-228.pdfit is unpolite for the above to occur at RAOs homestead but very ok at Jaramongi's place as both (Jaramogi and Fidel) are 'age-mates' I can't imagine Fidel's widow going along with this inheritance business. I imagine she would not be at peace with the arrangment, having not grown up in that culture. Does the woman have a choice, or is it a done deal that she is inheritance material if the man dies in wedlock? I imagiine that in the age of feminism there have been cases in which women refused to go with the customs in the circumstances. Can they be let live, and remain in the family if they opt to?
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Post by mank on Jan 21, 2015 1:52:35 GMT 3
I can't take Mr. President seriously when he says that the fact that traditionally corrupt and inept offices delvered their corruption and ineptness, yet again, is more disappointing to him than the fact that the police used arms agaist primary school children. The latter is what is most disappointing and shocking. The former, we are used to! Uhuru was just politicking, and I must wonder whether his soft words on the police is an indication of timidity or respect.
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Post by mank on Jan 21, 2015 1:31:13 GMT 3
I am planning to KICK YOU OUT IF YOU PERSIST. Ouch! OO, that doesn't sound good at all. It stinks too much "Fuata Nyayo."
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Post by mank on Jan 21, 2015 1:19:04 GMT 3
Bribery Sample: 93. In 2009, Prosecution Witness 4 was tracked down by intermediaries purportedly acting on behalf of the Accused, who bribed him to withdraw his testimony regarding the PEV. The intermediaries include .... In exchange for withdrawing his testimony and agreeing not to co-operate with the ICC, Witness 4 was paid substantial sums of money and land was purchased for his family. The intermediaries informed Witness 4 that if he refused to withdraw his statements, his family may be harmed. The intermediaries informed Witness 4 on multiple occasions that the money they paid to him originated from Mr Kenyatta. The Prosecution relied on Witness 4’s evidence at confirmation, but will not do so at trial, in part because the bribery campaign has damaged his credibility. That's just bull, amigo! That's the guy I told you all, well before any allegations of bribery were raised, was a blatant liar and was presenting himself as a witness of what cannot have happened. I don't know what else is bogus in the charge sheet, but this is total bee ees. Anyone would have been a fool to bribe such a guy. It would actually have helped the defense if Witness # 4 presented "his evidence" because it would have made it all the easier to show that the foundation of the prosecution was fictitious.
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Post by mank on Jan 18, 2015 8:18:26 GMT 3
...You see, to fake the death of Yebei, the evil genius had to arrange for a look-alike-body! How do you arrange for an identical body?.... Ha! I should have known BIL would not miss it. But I don't think Kamale should remove it from the board ... I bookmarked it, afterall. Furthermore, I highly doubt the mix up has anything to do wiith resemblance of the recovered body and the missing Yebei.
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Post by mank on Jan 18, 2015 8:12:55 GMT 3
So guys how about taking the conspiracy theory a little bit too far? But start with what we know: 1. Word gets out that an ICC witness is missing and is last reported in Uganda claiming to be safe with 'Bensouda' people 2. Family is worried and this becomes a media story only. 3. A body is found and it is claimed that the body belongs to Yebei. The body is mutilated and the family is called to identify the body 4. The family identifies the body as that of Yebei and claims it is theirs. 5. Immediately Khan writes a confidential letter to the DPP asking for confirmation via DNA that it is Yebei 6. For the first time he claims Yebai was his witness. 7. As if on cue, Activist Wafula claims that the guy was a prosecution witness with sour relations 8. URP MPs led by Duale step in and accuse Wafula of complicity which Wafula denies and threatens to sue. 9. The whole nation now knows that Yebei the ICC witness is dead!! 10.Bensouda issues statement disowning the guy and claiming that Yebei may have been committing crimes of bribing witnesses 11.Khan issues his statement actually revealing that an OTP witness had threatened Yebei hence asking for protection for Yebei 12.Then out of the blue CID who have been called to investigate the matter tell us the dead man is actually not Yebei but another man. 13. To clear the confusion, the police decide to take the No 5 route as proposed by Khan confirm it is Yebei by DNA. 14. DNA results will be known next week. So far that is what is known in this Yebei saga. In the second Khan statement, the lawyer was critical of Bensouda of ascribing crimes to a dead person and even suggested that OTP had made no efforts to charge Yebei for the crimes he was being accused of when he "was alive". Wafula last night is all noise claiming a cover up that the dead person is indeed Yebei and the DNA results the police will provide will not prove so. So here is the Kamale theory: 1. Yebei is NOT dead and is alive under protection by Khan. 2. The Yebei family are in on it - I have not seen that much mourning in the family. 3. The contradictions by the brother's stories about how he wants matter followed up shows the confusion caused by the ruse. But why would the Ruto/Khan team do this? Was it intended to get Wafula to speak as much as he has spoken lately? Is Wafula the same person that signed off emails to ICC as Abubaker as claimed by Duale and as per an email circulated on the net? How about Bensouda and the claims she made after 'confirming' that Yebei was dead? Yebei was an insider in the procurement and coaching of witnesses and it is most likely that the threats he had received from an OTP witness was related to this. So killing Yebei at the tail end time of the prosecution case throws the OTP into a spin and gives Khan and team an advantage i.e. Yebei will tell the court how he was involved in recruitment and coaching of witnesses to lie and this could deal the prosecution case a big dent if he comes out as an honest witness. At the appropriate time, the dead man will be buried in Busia and Yebei will reappear....and then there will be faces blushing! I want to bookmark this one. Its getting better than James Hadley. It's beuatiful. But something remains unexplored. If Khan keeps Yebei in protection, does Khan then know about the the other death that is getting mixed up with Yebei's? I was actually bought into the theory when I started typing this, then it downed on me that if Khan were to be in on Yebei's dissappearance then he would have a case to answer about the other fellow. Or shall we say it was all coincidental that another guy showed up dead while everyone (but Khan) was looking for Yebei?
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Post by mank on Jan 16, 2015 4:40:38 GMT 3
So, where is Meshack Yebei? Or should I ask, will his body ever be found? Whenever Team Ruto has "disaapeared" other witnesses, no bodies were found. So there must have been some surprise when "Yebei's" was found. Suggested sloppy work somewhere. Khan immediately demanded a DNA test. Folks, I think we need to be careful. Unless you have hard facts to produce upon being challenged, I think you should clarify whenever you are speculating over matters such as these.
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