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Post by adongo23456 on Mar 30, 2011 20:56:07 GMT 3
This is getting a little funny. May be we could relax a bit with this. I am sure MM would love that. Poor guy, he gets so many people riled up. I don't think he minds it. But here we go. copyright to nereah. haha Yup...Adongo to the rescue! Miguna has been flogged sufficiently and found equally wanting and a liability to his boss that we need to kill this thread with a nice laugh from Youtube! Enjoy and move on guys! Nope. I just like the music and it blends very well with what Miguna has the courage to say. I could start this all over again if you want to. But the music and the message is great. Check it out again. Will you? Here it is. hehehehehe
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 31, 2011 2:00:22 GMT 3
RR, I like this. Those who hate the PM most (with exception of kuburwo) are the ones asking for Migunas firing. They claim that they are calling for Migunas firing for the PMs good. Really? If Miguna is the stone around the PMs neck that will sink him, why bother take away the stone? I suspect that the hard hitting articles are finally exposing the liars and their lies. Its why they want MM stopped from writing. But Miguna being Miguna will keep on writing. You are correct! Those who hate the Rt Hon Prime Minister, are the same one telling us that Hon Miguna is destroying his boss!! Yet they want Hon Miguna fired!! he he ;D ;D There are several things that unite the Hon Miguna haters 1) He is an important govt functionary doing serious work, while his peers toil in mundane jobs. Pure peer envy. 2) He is very smart. Exceptionally smart, witty, and an excellent writer. Look at the disjointed, discombobulated sentences his most virulent hater in Jukwaa pens here. ;D Utter rubish linguistically and content wise. 3) He has democratic pedigree money cant buy. The same goes with the Rt Hon Prime Minister. When the Rt Hon Prime Minister tells the ICC 6 that when he was accused of treason, he knew he was innocent and waited patiently for the wheels of Justice to turn and find him innocent. He did no go around like kina ruto shouting hoarsely, abusing folks and demonizing whole tribes Hon Miguna is one of the premier legal and political analysts we have in Kenya. I doubt if there is anyone in the Govt today who can succinctly put a point across with a touch of incisive humor, historical fact and excellent prose style like he can. Even in the private sector - in the print dailies, I dare say he is the best of the bunch.
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Post by gachquota on Mar 31, 2011 2:09:13 GMT 3
RR, I like this. Those who hate the PM most (with exception of kuburwo) are the ones asking for Migunas firing. They claim that they are calling for Migunas firing for the PMs good. Really? If Miguna is the stone around the PMs neck that will sink him, why bother take away the stone? I suspect that the hard hitting articles are finally exposing the liars and their lies. Its why they want MM stopped from writing. But Miguna being Miguna will keep on writing. You are correct! Those who hate the Rt Hon Prime Minister, are the same one telling us that Hon Miguna is destroying his boss!! Yet they want Hon Miguna fired!! he he ;D ;D There are several things that unite the Hon Miguna haters 1) He is an important govt functionary doing serious work, while his peers toil in mundane jobs. Pure peer envy. 2) He is very smart. Exceptionally smart, witty, and an excellent writer. Look at the disjointed, discombobulated sentences his most virulent hater in Jukwaa pens here. ;D Utter rubish linguistically and content wise. 3) He has democratic pedigree money cant buy. The same goes with the Rt Hon Prime Minister. When the Rt Hon Prime Minister tells the ICC 6 that when he was accused of treason, he knew he was innocent and waited patiently for the wheels of Justice to turn and find him innocent. He did no go around like kina ruto shouting hoarsely, abusing folks and demonizing whole tribes Hon Miguna is one of the premier legal and political analysts we have in Kenya. I doubt if there is anyone in the Govt today who can succinctly put a point across with a touch of incisive humor, historical fact and excellent prose style like he can. Even in the private sector - in the print dailies, I dare say he is the best of the bunch. I second dat....ukweli mtupu
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Post by kamalet on Mar 31, 2011 8:29:50 GMT 3
There are several things that unite the Hon Miguna haters 1) He is an important govt functionary doing serious work, while his peers toil in mundane jobs. Pure peer envy. 2) He is very smart. Exceptionally smart, witty, and an excellent writer. Look at the disjointed, discombobulated sentences his most virulent hater in Jukwaa pens here. ;D Utter rubish linguistically and content wise. Hon Miguna is one of the premier legal and political analysts we have in Kenya. That is the problem with being used to mediocrity that even when one has sunk as low as Miguna has, he still gets the praises. Sometimes I think we need a force from beyond to save this country from itself.....ntk.
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 31, 2011 10:52:07 GMT 3
An Interesting Pick from Nairobistar
Sophie Usman 1 comment
Miguna usijisifu bwana, we know who stood for the Kenyan Community in Canada, those who fought and stood for multi party system they are well known and documented. You were a chicken, we know the likes of Abdalla Bahomophobic slurih, David Oloo, Adongo, Late Mahmoud Adam and others were instrumental in demonstrations, addressing press and public galleries since 1988 on wards.
In 1989, you were never seen during one of the most important demonstration ever to be done by Diaspora in Ottawa' Kenya High Commission which led to Moi's recalling the then Amb. Nyamweya!
You only came into the limelight when Raila's visit in Toronto during his address at University of Toronto, which you did not even allow us to meet or know about the event.
This the truth and nothing but the truth.
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Post by kamalet on Mar 31, 2011 11:24:23 GMT 3
An Interesting Pick from Nairobistar Sophie Usman 1 comment Miguna usijisifu bwana, we know who stood for the Kenyan Community in Canada, those who fought and stood for multi party system they are well known and documented. You were a chicken, we know the likes of Abdalla Bahomophobic slurih, David Oloo, Adongo, Late Mahmoud Adam and others were instrumental in demonstrations, addressing press and public galleries since 1988 on wards. In 1989, you were never seen during one of the most important demonstration ever to be done by Diaspora in Ottawa' Kenya High Commission which led to Moi's recalling the then Amb. Nyamweya! You only came into the limelight when Raila's visit in Toronto during his address at University of Toronto, which you did not even allow us to meet or know about the event. This the truth and nothing but the truth. someone's past being dug up! At least you can say the likes of Adongo are very consistent!
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Post by cheshirecat on Mar 31, 2011 13:38:08 GMT 3
rr,I’m quite surprised that you, of all contributors, support this article. Whether what Miguna wrote is the truth or not is not the point. The point, in my opinion, is the consequences of his narrow perception of the political reality in Kenya. Thintelligence "[Arnold and Wu are] technicians. They don't have intelligence. They have what I call 'thintelligence.’ They see the immediate situation. They think narrowly and they call it 'being focused.' They don't see the surround. They don't see the consequences. That's how you get an island like [Jurassic Park]. From thintelligent thinking. Because you cannot make an animal and not expect it be act alive. To be unpredictable. To escape. But they don't see that." “Malcolm”, Michael Crichton, Jurassic Park Miguna is obviously suffering from thintelligence and clearly never considers nor tries to see the consequences of his articles, facts notwithstanding. He's not considering the alienation he's generating for the PM. He's not considering the hate of 2008 which is still simmering. He's not considering the fact that Uhuru and Ruto may read the article and see ODM (Raila) celebrating their predicament. He’s not considering that his articles may harden their positions; that it will give them an excuse to harden their positions even further. Miguna is not seeing all that. He’s “focused”. The only thing he seems to see is landing a sucker-punch on Uhuru and Ruto, to the standing ovation of his “followers” who’re enjoying the show. High fives. But seriously; is this what we really need? Sucker-punches? Enjoyment? Aren’t we still a fragile nation trying to move forward, chart out a new future? Isn’t his boss running for PORK in 2012? It goes without saying that the departure of Uhuru and Ruto will definitely benefit his boss. Whether Raila is responsible or not for their actions during the PEV is not the point and is really immaterial here. Perceptions count and the perceptions being unleashed about Miguna’s boss by his articles don’t bode well for Raila, like it or not. These are some of the consequences Miguna fails to see because he’s too “focused”. Responsibilty. Wow.. remarkable and wise post. They say knowledge is the accumulation of facts.. wisdom is the ability to apply those facts to make better decisions. Some people sadly know a lot of facts.. but cant find any meaningful use for them other than repeating them to all they meet.
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Post by gachquota on Mar 31, 2011 15:17:32 GMT 3
Wow......mambo bad.
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Post by madgf on Mar 31, 2011 16:54:07 GMT 3
RR, Wait a minute I must've completely missed the comment made by my dear wise Horth. Horth is absolutely right. MM does have a specific perception of the political reality in Kenya. That's why he isn't a leader but an advisor who gives his point of view, which in most cases is immediate. But I don't think it's fair to say he never considers the full picture, I'm sure he knows more than a lot of us but he also knows his boundaries. For example, an individual who works as a mechanic may know the whole system of car yards but it isn't in his place to look out for the longevity of the car yard. Managers do that. Decision makers do that. I love Jurassic Park. Those giant lizards totally freaked me out.
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 31, 2011 17:22:21 GMT 3
An Interesting Pick from Nairobistar Sophie Usman 1 comment Miguna usijisifu bwana, we know who stood for the Kenyan Community in Canada, those who fought and stood for multi party system they are well known and documented. You were a chicken, we know the likes of Abdalla Bahomophobic slurih, David Oloo, Adongo, Late Mahmoud Adam and others were instrumental in demonstrations, addressing press and public galleries since 1988 on wards. In 1989, you were never seen during one of the most important demonstration ever to be done by Diaspora in Ottawa' Kenya High Commission which led to Moi's recalling the then Amb. Nyamweya! You only came into the limelight when Raila's visit in Toronto during his address at University of Toronto, which you did not even allow us to meet or know about the event. This the truth and nothing but the truth. What utter nonsense from Sophia Usman, I just talked to some old friends in Ottawa Canada and this women is full of Sh---T they state that Miguna was very vocal on democracy and stood up for multi-party system in Kenya to the extend of engaging Canadian members of parliament vigorously.. where was this Sophia then? can she post here pictures of the 89 big demonstration and cycle her face? I'm told there are pictures of those Kenyans who were in the Demonstrations taken then! instead of her throwing accusations that have no bearing or facts.. Miguna in Canada is know by most members of parliament and government sectors to have been a very vocal voice advocating for democracy and mutli-party system in Kenya.. propaganda and nonsense posted by clueless people spewing lies about Miguna.. get real and get facts before tarnishing peoples names on here .. bure kabisa..
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 31, 2011 17:31:32 GMT 3
To all Kenyans and Jukwaarist of good will, I come in peace.
First things first, I am a Kenyan and a patriot. I have been a passive Jukwaa member and have read most if not all the posts since the blog was established – OO, in this regard, I ask you to override your designation criteria and designate me a gold member - to the welcoming committee, hold your peace.
There is a picture by Reuters showing a child crying on the seat as the mother lies in a pool of blood dead on the floor of the house, door wide open. This picture continues to haunt me to this day, gives me chills and I feel terrible that I have not been outraged enough to speak up for this child. First, to put my words into action, I wish to send this child (I will call him/her Hope) material support. I want this child to one day inspire other children when he/she narrates his/her story. Hope symbolizes for me good over evil. I know this child, like Kenya will succeed, and I want to be part of that narrative. Even though I can never compare my experiences as a child with this child, I feel his/her pain. So anyone on this blog who has seen this picture and knows how I can get in touch with Hope, respond to this post so that I can do my part.
When I heard that the O6 were finally going to the Hague, my first intuition was to go to the Hague and demonstrate in solidarity with this child and all the victims of PEV, to remind the world what happened that 1/08 and hopefully get justice served. To be clear, the composition of O6 has nothing to do with my desire to stick someone with the responsibility of what happened. Now I have a lot of admiration and respect for Miguna Miguna(“MM”). I cannot not over emphasize the positives he bring onto the table, but I also find it troubling that his contributions sometimes go overboard and are too blunt for a person holding such a powerful position as a senior advisor to the PM. While some of his positions will be appropriate if communicated in private, in view of his position, posting some of the stuff on a blog is reckless at the minimum. If I was the advisor to the advisor- I would advise him to tone down take a deep breath before he types away his next article and relax anytime he wants to vent. In fact, I will go even further and suggest that the PM relieve MM of his duties- or ask him ceases to using the title, advisor to the PM. While straight and blunt talking MM may be very useful in advancing the PMs agenda, I believe the perception (wrongful or otherwise) that he is a hopeless hardliner hurts the PM in the long term. A chest thumping mission to the Hague for MM is undesirable- however, if his mission is to represent the PEV in a demo, then I will join him.
Kenya is in difficult times, and we need to acknowledge the fact that a few people are ready and willing to take the ship under when they drown. Does the phrase- “Wacha wa fanye vile watafanya” ring a bell to anyone? Our biggest undoing as a people is that we lack adult supervision as is evident in this forum (OO no disrespect). We lack adults from within to send the children on time out and all we can do is call nanny 911 (Koffi). The children have run amok again and 2012 will be explosive if we cannot find some moderates from within the country to coalesce around. Now before anyone starts throwing epithets at me, my message is simple, use the cyber anonymity wisely and call out the politicians, both friends and foes when they screw up.
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Post by gachquota on Mar 31, 2011 18:06:14 GMT 3
Welkam patriotism .....open arms policy.
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 31, 2011 18:49:36 GMT 3
To all Kenyans and Jukwaarist of good will, I come in peace. First things first, I am a Kenyan and a patriot. I have been a passive Jukwaa member and have read most if not all the posts since the blog was established – OO, in this regard, I ask you to override your designation criteria and designate me a gold member - to the welcoming committee, hold your peace. There is a picture by Reuters showing a child crying on the seat as the mother lies in a pool of blood dead on the floor of the house, door wide open. This picture continues to haunt me to this day, gives me chills and I feel terrible that I have not been outraged enough to speak up for this child. First, to put my words into action, I wish to send this child (I will call him/her Hope) material support. I want this child to one day inspire other children when he/she narrates his/her story. Hope symbolizes for me good over evil. I know this child, like Kenya will succeed, and I want to be part of that narrative. Even though I can never compare my experiences as a child with this child, I feel his/her pain. So anyone on this blog who has seen this picture and knows how I can get in touch with Hope, respond to this post so that I can do my part. When I heard that the O6 were finally going to the Hague, my first intuition was to go to the Hague and demonstrate in solidarity with this child and all the victims of PEV, to remind the world what happened that 1/08 and hopefully get justice served. To be clear, the composition of O6 has nothing to do with my desire to stick someone with the responsibility of what happened. Now I have a lot of admiration and respect for Miguna Miguna(“MM”). I cannot not over emphasize the positives he bring onto the table, but I also find it troubling that his contributions sometimes go overboard and are too blunt for a person holding such a powerful position as a senior advisor to the PM. While some of his positions will be appropriate if communicated in private, in view of his position, posting some of the stuff on a blog is reckless at the minimum. If I was the advisor to the advisor- I would advise him to tone down take a deep breath before he types away his next article and relax anytime he wants to vent. In fact, I will go even further and suggest that the PM relieve MM of his duties- or ask him ceases to using the title, advisor to the PM. While straight and blunt talking MM may be very useful in advancing the PMs agenda, I believe the perception (wrongful or otherwise) that he is a hopeless hardliner hurts the PM in the long term. A chest thumping mission to the Hague for MM is undesirable- however, if his mission is to represent the PEV in a demo, then I will join him. Kenya is in difficult times, and we need to acknowledge the fact that a few people are ready and willing to take the ship under when they drown. Does the phrase- “Wacha wa fanye vile watafanya” ring a bell to anyone? Our biggest undoing as a people is that we lack adult supervision as is evident in this forum (OO no disrespect). We lack adults from within to send the children on time out and all we can do is call nanny 911 (Koffi). The children have run amok again and 2012 will be explosive if we cannot find some moderates from within the country to coalesce around. Now before anyone starts throwing epithets at me, my message is simple, use the cyber anonymity wisely and call out the politicians, both friends and foes when the screw up. End. The Last time I checked every Kenyans has a right to his/her opinion which has nothing to do with the jobs they hold ? if we as Kenyans were to keep silent and not to voice our personal thoughts or opinions on this forum or other forums then we will have failed as Kenyans. WE MUST SPEAK UP ON THESE HEINOUS CRIMES COMMITTED BY OCAMPO 6 WITH LOUD VOICES.
1. for you to ask for Miguna's sacking is crossing the line just because he gave his personal opinion which in a democracy world he has a right to makes me wonder how patriotic you are? 2. clashes happened in 2007-08 and for you to say now you are looking for a child in a picture posted years ago to assist is mind boggling? why didn't you pledge your assistance four years ago? there are plenty of IDP children in camps today why not go help one of those children if indeed you are sincere? 3. your post here is full of innuendo's and unfounded accusations towards Miguna, I say straight up that Miguna as a Kenyan citizens like the rest of us has a right to voice his own personal opinions and if he is happy that the OCAMPO 6 are at last facing justice and he is going to HAGUE to attend the court sessions then that is his purgative!!!! I haven't seen you jumping up and down on those 10 MP's that are already lining up for VISA'S TO TRAVEL TO ICC IN SUPPORT OF THE OCAMPO 6! can you post on here why those MP's in support of Uhuru & Ruto are traveling and what plan of action they plan to engage in once they are at the ICC in support of the murderers? or do you think they have a different out look than Miguna's who is going to ICC in hope to see the Ocampo 6 locked up WHAT IS THESE MP'S SUPPORTING UHURU & RUTO'S AGENDA? TO HAVE THEM NEVER FACE ICC FOR THEIR HEINOUS CRIMES!!! BURE KABISA!! MAYBE SOME WERE PART OF THE MASSACRE OF INNOCENT KENYANS?? wacha vitina MIGINA CAN SCREAM FROM THE HIGHEST MOUNTAINS AGAINST THE OCAMPO 6 it is his right as a Kenyans to voice his personal opinions just like all Kenyans and it has nothing to do with his position as the PM's adviser lets differentiate these facts.. MEANWHILE I HOPE YOU HAVE SEND YOUR $$$ THROUGH M-PESA TO THE IDP CHILDREN AT THE CAMPS THEY SURE NEED MATERIAL HELP!!!!I HEAR THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE BLANKETS.. SINCERE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP DO IT QUIETLY INSTEAD OF SHOUTING FROM ROOF TOPS!! FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE DONATING!!!
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Post by akinyi2005 on Mar 31, 2011 19:14:05 GMT 3
;D ;D ;D
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 31, 2011 19:39:42 GMT 3
Reporter 911, - first I am disappointed that you took my post personal. I don’t want to engage you in a shouting match because I know my limits in this area. It is obvious you have missed the mark. First, I was responding to a post by attributed to MM and not the 10 MPs accompanying UK and WR to the Hague.
Secondly, RAO is the PM of all Kenyans irrespective of their political affiliations and the kind of rhetoric coming out of MM rants does not win him any votes. In any case it puts off independent minded Kenyans like me. Even the hard hitting Chicago mayor, Rahm Emanuel had to tone down the use of the f- word once he joined the W.H. MM is within his rights to shout from the tallest mountain whatever he wants to say- but for heaven’s sake- leave the advisor to the PM tag out of it. If that is vitina- too bad. Does this mean I condone PNU MPs and advisors who go over the top? Absolutely not- as Kenyans we need to step back and call out this politicians and their cronies everytime they step out of line.
As to seeing me jump up – hold your horses- this was my first post – you just need to measure how high I will jump.
As for my philanthropic endeavors, you again miss the point – I am anonymous at Jukwaa, most people are, and I don’t understand how requesting information on this child is shouting from the roof tops. To judge my sincerity based on my post is myopic to say the least and is the kind of culture I want to shy away from. Do your part as a Kenyan – be positive.
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Post by tnk on Mar 31, 2011 19:49:04 GMT 3
alrighty then mank in the final analysis, isn't this why jukwaa is great? ask me why!How filthy is this gonna get? Is this kind of writing by any chance the stuff we are usually referring to when we talk of Jukwaa being great? ..... people actually believe it when we glorify Jukwaa.
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 31, 2011 19:56:01 GMT 3
Reporter 911, - first I am disappointed that you took my post personal. I don’t want to engage you in a shouting match because I know my limits in this area. It is obvious you have missed the mark. First, I was responding to a post by attributed to MM and not the 10 MPs accompanying UK and WR to the Hague. Secondly, RAO is the PM of all Kenyans irrespective of their political affiliations and the kind of rhetoric coming out of MM rants does not win him any votes. In any case it puts off independent minded Kenyans like me. Even the hard hitting Chicago mayor, Rahm Emanuel had to tone down the use of the f- word once he joined the W.H. MM is within his rights to shout from the tallest mountain whatever he wants to say- but for heaven’s sake- leave the advisor to the PM tag out of it. If that is vitina- too bad. Does this mean I condone PNU MPs and advisors who go over the top? Absolutely not- as Kenyans we need to step back and call out this politicians and their cronies everytime they step out of line. As to seeing me jump up – hold your horses- this was my first post – you just need to measure how high I will jump. As for my philanthropic endeavors, you again miss the point – I am anonymous at Jukwaa, most people are, and I don’t understand how requesting information on this child is shouting from the roof tops. To judge my sincerity based on my post is myopic to say the least and is the kind of culture I want to shy away from. Do your part as a Kenyan – be positive. Ends. Remove miguna from your equation and understand first he is a Kenyans citizens free to voice his opinions!! Kenyans don't need a lecture on Rahm " Obama's chief of staff"way of handling things and toning down mantra.. you crossed the line by asking for Miguna's sacking and I wonder on what grounds? Yes he is the PM's adviser but he is also a free citizens of Kenya with a right to voice his personal opinions!!! There are many children like the one you are asking about full in the IDP camps! why seek for one child that you can't find easily instead of helping those kids in the camp that need immediate help!! get my drift? like I said IDP's children full in camps do your bit! you don't need to advertise your donations on here.. enuff said! what shouting match
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Post by njamba on Mar 31, 2011 19:56:45 GMT 3
Childish write up by someone an official working for PM. Miguna must weigh his words and actions against the role he is playing in the grand coalition. Instead of working hard to advise PM on issues he is here writting propaganda that helps none us who are members of ODM.
Fire this man and give him a job in Orange house to spin propaganda there. What a useless advisor. No wonder he has lost every battle he has engaged PNU on. The biggest fark up of all was the Naivasha Retreat on Katiba and then the Latest Judiciary appointments.
With advisors like this ODM needs no enemies. Why this bravado. Taunting opponents like a bully in school backyard Shape up Miguna or Ship out
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 31, 2011 20:02:54 GMT 3
Childish write up by someone an official working for PM. Miguna must weigh his words and actions against the role he is playing in the glad coalition. Instead of working hard to advise PM on issues he is here writting propaganda that helps none us who are members of ODM. Fire this man and give him a job in Orange house to spin propaganda there. What a useless advisor. No wonder he has lost every battle he has engaged PNU on. The biggest fark up of all was the Naivasha Retreat on Katiba and then the Latest Judiciary appointments. Nonsense unless you think Mugina as a Kenya citizens has no right to his own opinions then you are living in a different planet / that is what KIBAKI/UHURU/PNU would like! individuals toeing the line, like in the case of Uhuru's threats in Muranga to other Kikuyu politicians ati if you do not toe the line then you are finished in central Kenya politics..the Beauty of Miguna's position is that he is allowed to voice his own opinions and that is what democracy and rights of individual opinions is all about! I guess childish is your post! to imagine you think that Kenyans citizens individual opinions should be silenced by their bosses!! utter rubbish!
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 31, 2011 20:35:39 GMT 3
Reporter 911- I refuse to remove MM out of the equation. Just as he has a right to express his views, so do I have a right to point out what I think is harming the country. The politics of tit for tat have no place in Kenya. MM bears a higher responsibility to measure his utterances because his words have a direct impact on the lives of Kenyans due to his perceived (rightly or wrongly) proximity to the PM. Other advisors to WR, UK and PNU bear similar responsibilities. Now to argue that his rant is justified because others are doing the same is childish. Such rants reek of arrogance and malice. My expectations are that he should be able to stand on a higher moral ground and help the PM provide leadership in this hard times. Nothing is hard here - He can rant all he want, but dont use the tag-PM advisor-period. Dont be MM sycophant on Jukwaa.
Now that the PM has finaly separated from KANU, it is time he embarks on a spring cleanup- by doing away with sycophants like MM - anyone remember Kamotho? Indeed, the PM has a very unique opportunity to put his house in order before 2012 and reaching out to moderates all over the Country.
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Post by politicalmaniac on Mar 31, 2011 20:37:21 GMT 3
repota Again, these haters who are Hon Miguna peers have not indicated exactly where they disagreed with this brilliant humorous post, that started this thread. Just what is it that riles them so much? There is nothing, in the op-ed that is sufficient to call for his firing. These folks are like dogs baying at the moon.
There are bigger fish to fry. Why have they called for the resignation of the sloth in SH for gross incompetence and overt tribalism? How about jomo jnr and muthaura and Ali? Why have they called for their resignations?
Instead they have an unhealthy obsession with the Rt Hon Prime Minister, and Hon Miguna.
Shooooo
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Post by abdulmote on Mar 31, 2011 20:53:19 GMT 3
In my humble opinion, anyone who readily breaks in with a loud laughter and menacing grin, aimed at cheering even a murderous convict, being led to the gallows for hanging...in a way may seem to demonstrate how ignorant, arrogant and...what should I say...primitive...in relation to ones level of human wisdom and status if any.
It is indeed a shame that our PM has to be associated with such a character as his own Personal Advisor for the sake of mother Kenya! How sad!?
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Post by reporter911 on Mar 31, 2011 20:54:56 GMT 3
Reporter 911- I refuse to remove MM out of the equation. Just as he has a right to express his views, so do I have a right to point out what I think is harming the country. The politics of tit for tat have no place in Kenya. MM bears a higher responsibility to measure his utterances because his words have a direct impact on the lives of Kenyans due to his perceived (rightly or wrongly) proximity to the PM. Other advisors to WR, UK and PNU bear similar responsibilities. Now to argue that his rant is justified because others are doing the same is childish. Such rants reek of arrogance and malice. My espectations are that he should be able to stand on a higher moral ground and help the PM provide leadership in this hard times. Nothing is hard here - He can rant all he want, but dont use the tag-PM advisor-period. Dont be MM sycophant on Jukwaa. Now that the PM has finaly separated from KANU, it is time he embarks on a spring cleanup- by doing away with sycophants like MM - anyone remember Kamotho?. Indeed, the PM has a very unique opportunity to put his house in order before 2012 and reaching out to moderates all over the Country. Ends ;D ;D I knew your true colours would come out!! ATI PATRIOTIC!! get a grip. go patronize Uhuru & Co who are busy threatening other fellow MP's and at large Kenyans with more clashes, I REPEAT MIGUNA has a right as a KENYA CITIZEN tO his own personal opinions PERIOD .. like it or not and he will continuing doing so without anyone's permission including you!! I haven't heard you as patriotic as you claim to be asking for the sacking of UHURU KENYATTA the fact that he has a case to answer in the murders of innocent Kenyans? ala!! or do you believe he is innocent? the MUNGIKI he hired and paid for to commit the heinous crimes don't agree as their sworn affidavits to the ICC!!!, since they were paid and were following orders!! I haven't heard shouting on the roof tops for the sacking of Kibaki or Muthuara or Ali? who gave collectively in 2007-09 the police orders to shoot and kill innocent Kenyans in cold blood!! or do did you support them in these heinous crimes against humanity? Now tell us again why exactly you want Miguna sacked?? is it for uttering the truth on a public forum as a Kenyans citizens? what heinous crimes has Miguna committed to warrant his sacking? lets not parade utter nonsensical wishful thinking on here!!
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Post by patriotism101 on Mar 31, 2011 20:56:47 GMT 3
Maniac- I have nothing against RAO - In the context of what i do- I am long RAO for 2012 and short UK and WR. That not withstanding and knowing of bigger fish to fry, there is need stand up and provide adult supervision when your child is out of whack. You dont blame it on the neighbours child and pass the buck - since the neighbours child is calling people names- it is OK for my child to do the same.
Now, charity begins at home, and even though am long RAO, I hope I have made my point- he needs to crack the whip from within.
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Post by njamba on Mar 31, 2011 20:58:27 GMT 3
We want ODM as a party to rise beyond matope politics. I do not see Kibaki advisors doing the same mudslinging at least Miguna should focus on his job to steer the PM the right way. The PM and his advisor must stay above the fray there is nothing to gain in such an op-ed from a high ranking GCG official. Miguna has not managed any single policy matter without losing to PNU and only to have PM engage in a lot of damage control and play defense in a lot of matters. It was Miguna who misadvised Raila to go and make boardroom deals with Kibaki on Judiciary appointments. Most experts wanted JSC to be involved for the get go and Miguna claimed JSC had no role. It was Miguna and Orengo who went to Naivasha and came back with a diluted devolved draft only for Miguna to start screaming and kicking in op-ed about naivasha where he was the coalition non PSC member representative.
Miguna should resign he has failed in his job and I suggest he seek a job as the propaganda secretary of ODM in orange house or take a job as a freelance journalist.
To heckler in chief Report 911 I have no time to heckle back
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