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Post by nereah on Sept 8, 2012 17:27:51 GMT 3
thanks jakaswanga and all for this. i will be watching the videos and sharing my thoughts. meanwhile i read saturday nation while on my way to back to nairobi and there was this story of the big speech and the writer suggested that the impact would be neutered by the just about to be released job figures. i am also seeing the latest update on the daily nation online,very cynical indeed. but it appears the media and sundry observers were not just interested in the soundbites and stage craft of the speakers at the charlotte event. www.luckymag.com/blogs/luckyrightnow/2012/09/Lucky-Stars-Michelle-Obama-Wears-Custom-Tracy-Reese-to-the-Democratic-National-Convention#slide=1jakaswanga,omundu,johns,job,akinyi,kathure kebaara et al.. could anyone confirm if it is indeed true that apondi was at the event.
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Post by nereah on Sept 9, 2012 11:25:50 GMT 3
blunder prone romney continues with his gaffes news.yahoo.com/romney-slams-gop-leaders-including-own-vp-nominee-234717289--abc-news-politics.htmli am thrilled to learn that what i feared most never came to pass: that the job reports released yesterday have not had a dent on barry's staying power. infact,i gather that obama has widened the lead against romney.very encouraging indeed. the gop's financial war chest that has embued romney's camp with false sense of aura is to my mind driven more by anti-obama sentiments and propaganda in recent books,outdoor and tv/radio ads and films like that of the indian american joker than genuine support for romney. obama is yet to roll his sleeve and guess what would be the status of romney's kitty as the battle for ads hits the crescendo. romney should ask hillary.
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Post by nereah on Sept 11, 2012 17:52:31 GMT 3
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Post by omundu on Sept 12, 2012 12:11:41 GMT 3
I watched the DNC and boy, was it a walloping of the Mitt and his Grand ol' party. Everything was planned to the tee and Americans finally got to know where the problem lies escpecially after Bill Clintons now famous speech. Papa Bear had to come restore some authority that the Dems seemed to have lacked for a while against the bully party. Basically the GOP's message was "are you better off than four years ago" and the Dems message was a message of choice and moving foreward which in my opinion worked and resonated quite well with the electorate. The RNC crowd was a bunch of angry white men and women with a sprinkling of a few blacks and a Latino or two for effect. The whole show was just dwelling on negative energies and themes including an incident where a few delegates threw peanuts at a black tv crew saying "this is how we feed animals" Jameni !!!!!. That coupled with their ever constant message of You are alone and God for all of us didnt really go down well. In comparison, the DNC represented the cosmopolitan look of contemporary America. It was almost like a party but with a structured theme throughout. The first lady's speech really touched the core as to who Obama really is compared with Anne Romneys speech saying we understand the middle class coz we have been there and we lived in a garage and i love you women (Hogwash and slightly condescending). Castro (the mayor) gave a compelling speech describing the GOP as a party of NO on every key issue. Kerry and Biden were awesome too. The black caucus gave a rousing sermon with the dude (i forget his name) chanting "HOPE ON" and "MARCH ON" rousing the entire crowd. It amolst felt like the million man march. Like i said earlier, Bill Clinton, as some republican punditd opined, may have just won Obama another term with his speech. He cut to shreds the entire GOP talking points on economy, Obamacare etc. Obama closed it off with a very presidential speech but also rousing people by saying its the people that is the Hope and change he was talking about four years ago. It is them who are going to stop the monied from buying elections, it is them that brought medicare etc. My take on this is that the DNC worked very well in getting enthusiasm back to their core and the independents. His approval ratings have risen from the mid forties to the late fifties. he has a six point advantage over willard the Mitt which in my opinion could even be upto ten point lead considering the people polled were over seventy percent over 50 years old. Only twelve percent of the under thirty five were polled. Unless America goes into another recession or jobs numbers come negative, Obamas numbers will keep on rising. The DNC did a good job in letting Americans know that coming from losing over 700,000 jobs a month to gaining 100,000 jobs a month is a feat. They are better off than four years ago, The 96,000 jobs gained in august is the best august since 2006 in Jobs numbers. The stock market has doubled, Manufacturing has added 50,000 jobs, the best in more than a decade etc. Americans now know that it is the GOP that has tried to block Obama at every corner including the jobs bill that could have added another 2 million jobs by now. The overall theme of the DNC (in stark contrast to the RNC) was about hope, about "we will get there but we have to do it together" a message of hate and negativity has never produced a sustainable movement. It never resonates well with humanity. It will only get worse for the Romney Camp. His flip flopping has started again with his recent remarks that he will only repeal certain sections of Obama care. hahahahaha. Ryan has now got a Liar label hanging on his coatails with his recent remarks branded "lies" by the media, even Fox news. They are deparate and clutching on straws i tell you. This is because they ran on an anti obama platform and thought they would win win that and now they seem not to have an answer to what would you do different and how. When asked what he means by closing tax loopholes and which loopholes he would close, Ryan and Romneys senior advisor said that we will have to discuss with congress after the elections. basically, give us the presidency then when there we will see how to resovle the problems. that has never resonated well with the eletorate. Enter Gary Johnson, the libertarian candidate. opinion polls have him at four percentage points. Thats enough to bite a huge chunk off romneys numbers, thats why the Grand Ol' Party is trying its level best to make it hard for him to be in the ballot. And it still gets worse for Mitt. The debates, starting next month will strike a death blow. There is no way he can outdebate obama, the man who oudebated and defeated 153 rebuclican congressmen in their own yard. www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/29/obama-goes-to-the-gop-lio_n_442331.htmlThings are baddest nereah et al. I wrote something earlier that we may have just started to witness the demise of the republican party and they need a tabula rasa to remain relevant in the years to come. I think the impending tsunami may be their sword of damocles.
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Post by mzee on Sept 12, 2012 16:29:25 GMT 3
I did not know that anybody could outshine Obama on stage (public speaking). BUT Bill Clinton gave a speech of the century at the DNC. I have listened to both men speeches twice and I'm convinced that Clinton came out smoother than Obama. Perhaps Obama did not want to look like an angry black man but Bill just killed it. He moved the crowd with his every word.
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Post by akinyi2005 on Sept 12, 2012 17:28:11 GMT 3
Totally agree with you guys concerning Bill's speech. Obama says he's been getting requests to appoint Bill his "explainer in chief."
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Post by omundu on Sept 13, 2012 15:43:46 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Sept 13, 2012 20:20:07 GMT 3
omundu,
i heard obama cap at romney in his awesome speech at charlotte and became edgy for some weird reasons.he is vindicated with the latest gaffe from the blunder prone romney over the libyan killings.
at this rate, the democrats should downscale their ad spending for romney is apparently doing the donkey work for team obama.
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Post by deyiengs on Sept 14, 2012 2:58:56 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Sept 15, 2012 17:53:31 GMT 3
even the right wing media are grudgingly letting slip that obama is holding sway in the swing states. let the hustings begin!
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Post by 50cents on Sept 16, 2012 4:01:12 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Sept 16, 2012 16:34:01 GMT 3
the scottish-born american public affairs consultant photoed above is obviously spinning for the eager audience with this nuanced assessments from his armchair somewhere in washington dc which is still on the residual shadows of anti-obama lobbyists. his is just one of the strands in the emerging discourses as america heads to the polls. listen to his belch news.uk.msn.com/socialvoices/blogpost.aspx?post=32493242-d8b8-4273-a631-ad2a19a43519
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Post by nereah on Sept 19, 2012 18:53:56 GMT 3
i am thrilled that obama has hit the 50 mark in approval rating,the first score since march and he is doing just fine in the battleground states. that taped late night conversation with david letterman at the tuesday edition of david letterman was awesome.
looking at the numbers from the diverse pollsters that have rated him ahead of the blunder prone romney, i get a feel that the next 48 days are going to be cruise to the finishing line.
of utmost significance as my informant rightly point out is the fact that the good news were released by various outlets that commissioned them before the damning romney's secret video were made public.
even as my type wear a broad smile, there are the dyed-in-the wool cynic and sceptics who are by heart,mind and soul plotting evil against obama II.
i have read somewhere how some imaginative right leaning authors of obama defeat are predicting the repeat of the 2000 george bush vs al gore contest that was determined by the supreme court.
there seems to be a catch somewhere for the democrats over the american's complex electoral system where the gop are clasping their hopes on.the blacks and latinos who are presumed to be obama's safe votes, are being targetted through the system that will preclude or exclude them in voting in most of the ley states.
i am told the new american voters card system being used would lock out majority of these amigos and the black brothers and sister and while not giving romney an outright win, it presents the opportunity for the last option against obama: the election being decided by the supreme court where i am told the gop seems to be comfortable with.
it happened in 2000 and the incumbent was granted the legitimacy via a supreme court decision and if the authors of that imagination that i read is to be believed, there is a plot underway to embarrass obama with a romney win.
too much of conspiracy theory so lets stick to the numbers in which all the diverse pollsters are agreed that obama is barracking romney, clean and square with surge in approval rating.
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Post by omundu on Sept 21, 2012 17:00:36 GMT 3
Nereah, the redistricting attempts may not work according to plan with some of the cases been thrown out of court and some attempts at scuttling early voting and absentee voting hitting a brick wall. Eventually it will all come down to electoral votes with some predicting Obama at 330 EV's and above. he heads in most key swing states giving Romney a mountain to climb.
Romneys campaign to me is dead considering the unprecedented gaffes he has committed that have even the mccain palin ticket look remarkable.
His attempts at saying otherwise remind me of the famous "dead parrot" sketch done by Palin and chapman where he coined the phrase "pining for the fjords" basically a customer enters a shop to return a dead parrot but the shopowner insists that it is not "dead but merely stunned" while the audience can see it is dead. Later chapman, the customer states that it is then "pining for the fjords" as a euphemism for dead but trying to deny the obvious.
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Post by nereah on Sept 22, 2012 16:39:31 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Oct 1, 2012 23:44:14 GMT 3
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Post by nereah on Oct 3, 2012 20:08:54 GMT 3
just refilling my bowl with popcorn, eyes glued to the internet streams and satellite chanells for the great debate at the university of denver collorado. its gonna be a long night here in nairobi for nereah. here is what we need to know first tinyurl.com/9zeylrb
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 4, 2012 6:16:57 GMT 3
just refilling my bowl with popcorn, eyes glued to the internet streams and satellite chanells for the great debate at the university of denver collorado. its gonna be a long night here in nairobi for nereah. here is what we need to know first tinyurl.com/9zeylrb Nereah,Twitter seems to be suggesting that Obama was very poor and sleepy on the stage. Anyone out there watched the debate? What say you?
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Post by mank on Oct 4, 2012 7:08:01 GMT 3
I watched. My take is that Romney and his crowd will go to bed happy because he came juiced up to make noise, and noise he did make - for many who just hate Obama and who have been disappointed that Romney was not standing up as a credible replacement, noise or anything to put Romney up is all they needed.
Obama disappointed in a way, because he did not come at at Romney strongly while the latter disowned several of the ideas he's been touting from primaries to the last few days. There are too many weak spots of Romney that Obama could have exploited, and he did not - for example Romney's claim that he's for middle and low income earners, yet just the other day a video clip came out showing how low he views them, and neither the moderator nor Obama brought that up. Obama has probably underestimated his competition.
Romney has shown consistently that he does not have concrete ideas that he believes in (except the disdain for those who are not very rich). Another thing he has show is that he has no respect for consistency of character, and will change his positions on any issue from venue to venue without apology. So, in a way, what seems like a win for him could turn to be a catastrophe for his campaign because he cannot afford to disown the ideas he presented today as he's been doing all along. When pressed for details, Romney will find it difficult to substantiate the ideas he bull-headedly presented today. But on Obama, there was no energy - I think he was caught off-guard by Romney's chameleon stunt!
One thing Romney cannot deliver on is tax. He argues that he will reduce taxes for everyone, and at the same time the reduction will not reduce tax revenue .... Bill was all over that, yet the man gets away with it. Obama attacked this, but the attack, lacked political character, and will therefore not be picked by those who are not strongly for him already.
Romney argues that the way he will keep tax revenue at least same, despite a tax cut, is that he will eliminate current deductions - of course then he is not reducing tax burdens! There is nothing that beneficial in being told that you are paying a lower tax rate, if more of your income is being subjected to the lower tax rate such that you end up paying the same as you paid previously .... but even more alarming about Romney's unsubstantiated elimination of deductions, is that by picking deductions to eliminate he can pick who pays more taxes while others pay less, for a zero net effect ... this is a point that Obama makes only too subtly by saying "I don't know who you can take away deductions and make up a tax deduction of 5 trillion dollars without increasing taxes even for middle income earners". The question that should be asked is, why go through the pain of messing with the tax code so to lower taxes and at the same time maintain the tax revenue unless the idea is to increase taxes on some people while reducing for others? As no reason is apparent, it is only expected that Romney is lowering tax on high income earners (as those are the ones he and his republicans have been against seeing tax hikes on), and to increase tax on the rest of the people!
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Post by merkeju on Oct 4, 2012 7:09:08 GMT 3
I will summarize the Obama and Romney debate as " if you argue with a fool you wont know the difference" Romney was good with lies that Obama could not keep up with
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Oct 4, 2012 7:23:47 GMT 3
I watched. My take is that Romney and his crowd will go to bed happy because he came juiced up to make noice, and noice he did make - for many who just hate Obama and who have been disappointed that Romney was not standing up as a credible replacement, noice or anything to put Romney up is all they needed. Obama disappointed in a way, because he did not come at at Romney strongly while the latter disowned several of the ideas he's been touting from primaries to the last few days. There are too many weak spots of Romney that Obama could have exploited, and he did not - for example Romney's claim that he's for middle and low income earners, yet just the other day a video clip came out showing how low he views them, and neither the moderator nor Obama brought that up. Obama has probably underestimated his competition. Romney has shown consistently that he does not have concrete ideas that he believes in (except the disdain for those who are not very rich). Another thing he has show is that he has no respect for consistency of character, and will change his positions on any issue from venue to venue without apology. So, in a way, what seems like a win for him could turn to be a catastrophe for his campaign because he cannot afford to disown the ideas he presented today as he's been doing all along. When pressed for details, Romney will find it difficult to substantiate the ideas he bull-headedly presented today. But on Obama, there was no energy - I think he was caught off-guard by Romney's chamelleon stunt! Thanks Man K for the detailed summary. Your views in many ways agree with what I have seen on twitter so far. I am shocked that even diehard Obama supporters like Ed Scholes are very disappointed with the man's performance. No one seems to think otherwise. I agree with you, Romney could easily outfox Obama just the same way he did with his fellow republicans in the primaries. He seems a very cunning politician and always gets away from trouble very, very easily.
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Post by Omwenga on Oct 4, 2012 7:48:37 GMT 3
I will summarize the Obama and Romney debate as " if you argue with a fool you wont know the difference" Romney was good with lies that Obama could not keep up with Merkeju, That's a good one there what you have said ;D Here is my take on this: I did not watch the debates but as soon as they were over, a die-hard Obama supporter frantically tried to reach me via phone but I was not available and can now see several missed calls from him. His text says it all, "Obama just blew his chance to put away Romney. He bombed!" Alarmed, I quickly started perusing the best news outlets which can give you the most favorable news about Obama, MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc and they are all saying the same thing: Romney won and won big. The danger of this is this, Romney is from tomorrow going to carry the banner "the Come Back Kid" much as Clinton did in 1992, except, and this is the irony, Clinton actually lost a primary (I think New Hampshire) but somehow went on to declare himself the "Come Back Kid" and with that attitude, he sent George Bush Senior to early retirement. Let's home the same thing doesn't happen with Romney. The one sure reason why it may, is because Americans have the shortest memory of all people I know. Forget about the polls from yesterday; when the news splash say Romney floored Obama as they no doubt will, there will be a stampede of voters thronging to his side and suddenly Obama becomes hapless. The only thing that's going to save Obama from this point on is to arouse even more of his base. The 47% Romney dismissed as irrelevant in his campaign strategy and hope they show up in large numbers to negate gains Romney is likely to enjoy with the momentum coming from this obvious victory many did not think he would pull off. A prayer wouldn't hut; Romney surely will pray as well, but it appears his prayer has already been answered. It's now game on and only each man's destiny will prevail according to God's will. In other words, it's all now in God's hand and given He doesn't do favors, His will simply shall come to pass but the two have to do what they humanly can for that's really what life is all about; at least among believers. Say a prayer but do your best. Obama did not do his best. Was this God's will? Maybe. Why? Uchambuzi Tanaka, www.omwenga.com
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Post by tnk on Oct 4, 2012 8:14:25 GMT 3
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Post by b6k on Oct 4, 2012 11:48:30 GMT 3
just refilling my bowl with popcorn, eyes glued to the internet streams and satellite chanells for the great debate at the university of denver collorado. its gonna be a long night here in nairobi for nereah. here is what we need to know first tinyurl.com/9zeylrb Nereah,Twitter seems to be suggesting that Obama was very poor and sleepy on the stage. Anyone out there watched the debate? What say you? Mwalimumkuu, I still can't believe I woke up to watch that debate that was on at 04:00 hrs KE time. Obama was lethargic & seemed kind of nervous. It was a poor performance from the usually eloquent politician. This one went to Romney. Two to go....
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Post by kamalet on Oct 4, 2012 12:25:17 GMT 3
Nereah,Twitter seems to be suggesting that Obama was very poor and sleepy on the stage. Anyone out there watched the debate? What say you? Mwalimumkuu, I still can't believe I woke up to watch that debate that was on at 04:00 hrs KE time. Obama was lethargic & seemed kind of nervous. It was a poor performance from the usually eloquent politician. This one went to Romney. Two to go.... B6k Even worse for me....late night Arsenal game (yes we won that!) and then up at 4 a.m. and Obama sends me to sleep!! If you tracked it on CNN, the undecided voters had women a lot more positively responsive than men on anything that Obama said!
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