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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 6, 2013 22:29:59 GMT 3
Nowayhaha, The explanation you have given to try and explain the graphs trend just does not add-up and defies basic mathematical principles. “….The reason the graph is that way is because at one time results from CORD strongholds were not forth coming and when they started releasing the results Jubilee strongholds started releasing the results with equal measure….“ If the results from CORD were not forthcoming for sometime, then I would expect the gradient of the curve would plateau – which is not the case . Kasiaya, The explanation was for the general trend of the results . Note that there are several graphs being thrown around in the internet . Is the graph provided by RR authentic ? For which duration of provisional results does the graph represent ? On your point that if results were not forthcoming for sometime the gradient of the curve would be plateau is either from an ignorant point of view or misguided. The gradient would be dependent on intervals in X axis having either a fixed interval or variable interval and in this RR's case it has been manually entered and is not systematic but random thus contrary a steep curve . |
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Post by bob on Mar 6, 2013 22:41:07 GMT 3
Lets all say enough of monkey business & focus on the fresh tallying . Hackers or no hackers lets appreciate that Kenyans have been very tolerant & patient except for a few misguided elements who are willing to fan mayhem. Relax, ''The lord is my shepherd & I shall not want he leads me to greener pastures'',they are surely coming!
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 6, 2013 22:48:51 GMT 3
OFFICIAL: 21/291 Uhuru 445,810 Raila 332,053 Mudavadi 7,591 Kenneth 3,316 Kiyiapi 3,006 Karua 2,064 Dida 957 Muite 569 Rejected 5,796 ntv.co.ke/live
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Post by mank on Mar 6, 2013 22:49:51 GMT 3
Bob,
Some people enjoy following these things the way you might enjoy a good novel, page by page yet you could flip to the end of the novel and see how everything ends. So let discussion continue - it won't alter the end for those who would rather keep quite and wait.
Folks, as you have noticed the Uhuru and Raila are taking almost 100% of the votes between themselves. They keep taking turns in taking the lion's share from consituency to another. With this alternation it is not all that surprising that the patterns look similar.
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Post by mank on Mar 6, 2013 23:28:16 GMT 3
My suspicion is that misplaced but well filled votes are being counted. The official results are expressing much lower rejected votes than the unofficial ones, and it seems distinction of those boxes is really difficult, at least to some people.
Long time ago we used to have boxes marked by wild animals which are easy to recognize. Whoever came up with colours needs some education. Next time we should go back to our smart past in that aspect.
I remember in one course of "effective presentation" I learned that the human eye is good at telling apart 5 colours in a pattern, and compromised at above that threshold. In practice I have also received company brochures that had too many colour variations in figures, that the figures were unintelligible to me. How many colours did we have in this case, and how distinct can one colour be from another when you have the number of boxes we had in this case??
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 7, 2013 2:14:33 GMT 3
1:16 Official presidential results: Uhuru 1,119,761; Raila 819,573; Mudavadi 21,516; Kenneth 7,896; Kiyiapi 6,983; Karua 5,629; Dida 2,766; Muite 1,792 in 48/291 constituencies
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 2:21:01 GMT 3
1:16 Official presidential results: Uhuru 1,119,761; Raila 819,573; Mudavadi 21,516; Kenneth 7,896; Kiyiapi 6,983; Karua 5,629; Dida 2,766; Muite 1,792 in 48/291 constituencies source? |
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Post by nowayhaha on Mar 7, 2013 2:32:50 GMT 3
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Post by kamalet on Mar 7, 2013 7:31:27 GMT 3
My suspicion is that misplaced but well filled votes are being counted. The official results are expressing much lower rejected votes than the unofficial ones, and it seems distinction of those boxes is really difficult, at least to some people. Long time ago we used to have boxes marked by wild animals which are easy to recognize. Whoever came up with colours needs some education. Next time we should go back to our smart past in that aspect. I remember in one course of "effective presentation" I learned that the human eye is good at telling apart 5 colours in a pattern, and compromised at above that threshold. In practice I have also received company brochures that had too many colour variations in figures, that the figures were unintelligible to me. How many colours did we have in this case, and how distinct can one colour be from another when you have the number of boxes we had in this case?? In one of the constituencies in either Bomet or Kericho, the number of rejected votes was as hjigh as +3000!! |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 7, 2013 10:27:17 GMT 3
Raila to address the press at Serena shortly. Could he be conceding?
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 11:31:04 GMT 3
Take a look at Kongowea Polling station in Nyali constituency in Mombasa County. Number of Votes counted outweighs number of registered voters .Do you smell something ?  Blame the party which won this "stronghold".... |
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Post by Horth on Mar 7, 2013 11:37:31 GMT 3
Raila to address the press at Serena shortly. Could he be conceding? No. Read rr's rigging thread to know what Kalonzo has said. |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 7, 2013 11:40:59 GMT 3
Raila to address the press at Serena shortly. Could he be conceding? No. Read rr's rigging thread to know what Kalonzo has said. Yeah, I just saw some of their allegations and demands on twitter. They are specifically demanding that the manual tallying at the Bomas should be stopped as 'it is not credible'. These guys will never cease t amaze. |
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Post by Ouali on Mar 7, 2013 11:43:40 GMT 3
kenyans vote in criminals to head govt. lol! I think we should face the reality by now. What this means to kenyans, Uhurus" personal challenges" becomes our own challanges as a nation.
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 11:44:11 GMT 3
Abdulmote you're free to believe the hacking was only one sided. I have it on good authority that CORD hackers also managed to manipulate the IEBC system 
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 11:54:19 GMT 3
No. Read rr's rigging thread to know what Kalonzo has said. Yeah, I just saw some of their allegations and demands on twitter. They are specifically demanding that the manual tallying at the Bomas should be stopped as 'it is not credible'. These guys will never cease t amaze. These CORD guys are not all that bright. If they listened to Isaak Hassan yesterday he clearly stated that he had full confidence in the provisional (electronic) votes tally. Therefore to expect the manual tally to show different results is the height of gullibility. The new figures still have UK at 2.4m & Jakom at 1.9m. It still looks like Raila will be heading into retirement.... |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Mar 7, 2013 12:03:56 GMT 3
Yeah, I just saw some of their allegations and demands on twitter. They are specifically demanding that the manual tallying at the Bomas should be stopped as 'it is not credible'. These guys will never cease t amaze. These CORD guys are not all that bright. If they listened to Isaak Hassan yesterday he clearly stated that he had full confidence in the provisional (electronic) votes tally. Therefore to expect the manual tally to show different results is the height of gullibility. The new figures still have UK at 2.4m & Jakom at 1.9m. It still looks like Raila will be heading into retirement.... Raila Odinga cannot lose, even when it is very clear that Kenyans in their millions are sending him home, he will want to create the impression that he was send home unfairly. What a soar loser. |
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Post by Ouali on Mar 7, 2013 12:30:58 GMT 3
From the look of things mutahi ngunyi got it right with his numbers theory. Raila needs a miracle to even force a run-off.
Of course the repercussions of an uhuruto presidency is something we have to live with it for the next five years tupende tusipende.
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Post by podp on Mar 7, 2013 12:40:28 GMT 3
Yeah, I just saw some of their allegations and demands on twitter. They are specifically demanding that the manual tallying at the Bomas should be stopped as 'it is not credible'. These guys will never cease t amaze. These CORD guys are not all that bright. If they listened to Isaak Hassan yesterday he clearly stated that he had full confidence in the provisional (electronic) votes tally. Therefore to expect the manual tally to show different results is the height of gullibility. The new figures still have UK at 2.4m & Jakom at 1.9m. It still looks like Raila will be heading into retirement.... there was a release of the adult novel titled 'The Casual Vacancy' by J.K. Rowling last year. in it she has this plot set in a picturesque English town called Pagford that begins with the sudden death of Barry Fairbrothe. his death creates an opening on the council--the technical term is a "casual vacancy"--and in their unseemly haste to fill it, Pagfordians on both sides expose their carefully concealed inner lives. the novel might seem to be light social satire, a skewering of small-town foibles and hypocrisies. Rowling's interest is in the emotional and social gaps between us and the grotesque emotional wounds we inflict on those on the other side, always in the belief that we're acting in righteous self-defense. the people of Pagford can't go five minutes without lying to someone else or themselves; the town's psychic currency consists of "things denied, things untold, things hidden and disguised."reading another new thread here one cannot help wondering why we cannot go five minutes without lying to someone else or ourselves! |
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 12:49:54 GMT 3
These CORD guys are not all that bright. If they listened to Isaak Hassan yesterday he clearly stated that he had full confidence in the provisional (electronic) votes tally. Therefore to expect the manual tally to show different results is the height of gullibility. The new figures still have UK at 2.4m & Jakom at 1.9m. It still looks like Raila will be heading into retirement.... Raila Odinga cannot lose, even when it is very clear that Kenyans in their millions are sending him home, he will want to create the impression that he was send home unfairly. What a soar loser. , that is the tragedy of an Agwambo candidacy. Popular he may be but has it ever occurred to him that he may equally be an objectionable choice to as many, if not more, than he is attractive to? That ego needs nothing short of permanent retirement, once & for all.... |
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Post by b6k on Mar 7, 2013 12:56:28 GMT 3
These CORD guys are not all that bright. If they listened to Isaak Hassan yesterday he clearly stated that he had full confidence in the provisional (electronic) votes tally. Therefore to expect the manual tally to show different results is the height of gullibility. The new figures still have UK at 2.4m & Jakom at 1.9m. It still looks like Raila will be heading into retirement.... there was a release of the adult novel titled 'The Casual Vacancy' by J.K. Rowling last year. in it she has this plot set in a picturesque English town called Pagford that begins with the sudden death of Barry Fairbrothe. his death creates an opening on the council--the technical term is a "casual vacancy"--and in their unseemly haste to fill it, Pagfordians on both sides expose their carefully concealed inner lives. the novel might seem to be light social satire, a skewering of small-town foibles and hypocrisies. Rowling's interest is in the emotional and social gaps between us and the grotesque emotional wounds we inflict on those on the other side, always in the belief that we're acting in righteous self-defense. the people of Pagford can't go five minutes without lying to someone else or themselves; the town's psychic currency consists of "things denied, things untold, things hidden and disguised."reading another new thread here one cannot help wondering why we cannot go five minutes without lying to someone else or ourselves! , that sounds like an interesting read. Self delusion is indulged with by most but every once in a while you hope people can be objective enough to snap out of it & deal with the harsh reality that is life. It is this same self delusion that saw a chunk of Jukwaa sign off & start a different blog where they could collectively support & confirm their illusions (they still lurk about though judging from hits on threads that appeal to their delusions). I did not support Uhuruto, but I see no reason why I cannot live with their presidency if the people of KE have decided to grant it to the pair. Vox populi, vox dei. Let's move on.... |
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Post by mugabe on Mar 7, 2013 16:18:54 GMT 3
Dr. Evans Kidero wins the Nairobi Governor position. Great news that a Nairobi has not gone to a buffoon.
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Post by mugabe on Mar 7, 2013 16:27:57 GMT 3
Guys
Lets unite as a country. The problem with us is that we have too much pride in our hearts. I voted for PK but I was long resigned to a Uhuruto win. What we however need is soberness both by losers and winners. Honestly is it to much to ask that if your side won that you avoid putting leaders and entire communities down? If you side lost then move on and stop with the personal attacks. The decision by CORD to seek legal redress and not violence should be applauded even by their opponents who are winning.
Lets us be sober. If you angry take a chill pill.
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Post by mank on Mar 7, 2013 16:40:59 GMT 3
My suspicion is that misplaced but well filled votes are being counted. The official results are expressing much lower rejected votes than the unofficial ones, and it seems distinction of those boxes is really difficult, at least to some people. Long time ago we used to have boxes marked by wild animals which are easy to recognize. Whoever came up with colours needs some education. Next time we should go back to our smart past in that aspect. I remember in one course of "effective presentation" I learned that the human eye is good at telling apart 5 colours in a pattern, and compromised at above that threshold. In practice I have also received company brochures that had too many colour variations in figures, that the figures were unintelligible to me. How many colours did we have in this case, and how distinct can one colour be from another when you have the number of boxes we had in this case??
In one of the constituencies in either Bomet or Kericho, the number of rejected votes was as hjigh as +3000!!There was that episode they kept replaying of a colour blind voter being stranded as he faced the boxes, which to him were all same colour, and the officials were not being helpul enough - the officials seemed dismissive of his inability to tell colours, and were more judgemental than helpful. Whoever came with the idea of colours as the distinction should honestly get a thrashing on the bottoms ... like we used to get in secondary school for the slightest of mistakes. I can imagine the judging look my grandmother would have in her face if I tried to recruit her into voting by differentiating blue from green and purple. Again, just what happened with our elephants, giraffes, rhinos, etc, symbols my grandmother and her own grandmother would have had no difficulties with? |
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Post by mank on Mar 7, 2013 16:47:30 GMT 3
Raila to address the press at Serena shortly. Could he be conceding? ;D ;D That's humorous! |
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