Raila Can Win In Round 2 Without Kalenjin Vote

[Omwenga]

In Raila Can Win the Presidency In Round 2 Without the Kalenjin Vote, published in the Star today, www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-113552/raila-can-win-round-2-without-kalenjin-vote which I post below, I offer reasons as to why.

It’s almost three weeks since Kenyans went to the polls and one can almost touch the sense of collective holding of the breath as we await the outcome of the petition Cord has filed challenging the results announced by IEBC that Uhuru won the presidency.

Raila and Cord maintain they have the evidence to show that the elections were rigged, IEBC, has responded with its rebuttal denying that they rigged the elections with Uhuru and Ruto, the not too innocent by-standers likely to agree with what IEBC says, whether they are enjoined in the case or not.

The merits of what each side contends aside, we can agree generally on a number of things already gleaned from the elections held on March 4, 2013.

For example, after more than five years since the dark days of post-election 2007, it is clear we have not learned lessons in the least on how to conduct dispute free elections, given the gigantic dispute that arose this time around and now headed to the Supreme Court for resolution.

When IEBC was constituted on November 9, 2011, there was a collective sigh of relief that we had a body that could finally conduct credible elections free of the ills committed by its predecessors.

To see before our unbelieving eyes the unfolding of events eerily similar to what happened in 2007 minus the violence that ensued is not only gravely disappointing, it goes to confirm we have, indeed, not learned anything from the 2007 experience that nearly plunged our country into a civil war.

How that could be would be better understood in the days, weeks and months even years to come.

For now, the Supreme Court has in its hands the fate of our country for how the court rules on the unprecedented and historic petition before it challenging the IEBC announcement that Uhuru won the presidential tally will largely determine which direction the country goes, especially in fostering democratic ideals and the rule of law under the new political dispensation.

The second thing we can generally agree on following the elections of March 4, 2013 is that, as in 2007, Kenyans went to the polls and concluded the exercise peacefully, even as they stood in lines for upwards of more than 10 hours in some locations—and by a record number.

This is a testament of not only the resilience of our people, but a sheer determination to have their voices heard thanks to the new constitutional freedoms and guarantees many have never believed would be possible in their lifetimes but is happening now.

Nothing speaks to this resilience and desire more than when we are told a 72-year old woman collapsed and died while in queue waiting to vote or in a less tragic case where another woman had to step away from the queue to have a baby.

Some have criticized and even called upon Raila to abandon his legal challenge of the presidential results and simply accept what was announced but that 72-year old who never got to cast her vote, or the woman who had to step out of the queue to have a baby would both certainly want to make sure their vote counts.

For that reason alone, such calls for the PM to abandon his case can only be characterized as selfish and not in the interest of those who take their right to vote seriously to the point they would stand in line for many hours and under very difficult circumstances, including suffering from hunger pains just so their voice can be heard—or at least they so hope.

On the other hand, it’s critical for the courts to actually determine what exactly happened and hold accountable those who may be found to have contributed to the failure of the electoral body to deliver results free of the things complained about or alleged by those challenging the results.

Put another way, Isaack Hassan and his team must in the end answer the question why would they spend billions of shillings on a system that they abandoned at the critical time for whatever reason they gave to resort to manual counting which the Kriegler Commission said was largely the reason we had the mischief done with the elections of 2007.

There are many other questions IEBC must answer but that’s for the courts and other relevant authorities to look into in the days and weeks, if not months to come.

At this point in time all the Court needs to determine is whether it’s true that there was massive rigging of the elections as Raila and Cord allege.

While the Court grapples with the monumental task on its hands, we can also glean some things from the disputed poll that may or may not be agreeable to all and these are:

To begin with, it’s abundantly clear rigging or not, tribalism is alive and well in Kenya.

There is not a single reason other than tribalism that can explain why two men charged with serious crimes against humanity can harvest as many votes as they did—again putting aside the question whether there was rigging or not, because the two mobilized their respective tribes to vote for them to the man while denying or keeping to the absolute minimum the number of votes other candidates could harvest among their tribes.

However, this is not the so-called “tyranny of numbers” much heralded by a local political pundit as the key to Uhuru’s victory but dismissed by others as propaganda designed to psychologically prepare the country for the rigging Raila and Cord now say took place and they can so prove.

Those dismissing the so-called “tyranny of numbers” as propaganda designed to prepare the country for rigging are not without an abundance of verifiable, sound and even scientific reasons:

First, the author of this ploy claimed at the time he unleashed his ‘tyranny of numbers’ that the Kikuyus and Kalenjin will vote as a bloc for Uhuru and Ruto instantly giving the duo 43% of the vote going by the total number of registered voters.

This was an outcome only possible in the figment of one’s imagination because at the time and even through the last days before the elections, virtually all reputable pollsters were unanimous in predicting a “dead heat” between Raila and Uhuru, with Raila Odinga having a slim lead.

In none of the polls did either candidate have more than 50% of the vote.

Whenever you mention polls, two things immediately come into play—and this is a universal concept and fact: when they favor your position, view or candidate, they are marvelous; when they don’t they are unreliable, paid for or otherwise belonging in the trash.

The truth is, however, it’s a fact that Kenyan pollsters have accurately predicted the results of the 2002 presidential elections; the 2005 referendum; the 2007 presidential elections; and the 2010 referendum.

As one analyst has put it, this is a track record of reliability which would be acceptable in any nation, and at any time since the advent of opinion polling.

That being the case, it became readily apparent long before the elections that the “tyranny of numbers” was really nothing but a clever invention of its author in cohorts with others with perhaps the purpose of psychologically preparing the country for rigging as many alleged because there is no way one could reconcile those ‘tyranny of numbers’ with the conventional polling data showing a close race between Raila and Uhuru.

This is a fact that is actually conclusively established in the results from the actual poll of March 4th—again, putting aside the question of rigging.

As the pollster Dr. Tom Wolfe of Ipsos Synovate put it, if one were to give Uhuru all the undecided vote going into the elections (about 2%) and add to that the numbers for 3 marginal candidates, the best Uhuru could have had on election day would have been 49.5%, yet the results IEBC announced show Uhuru at 50.7%, begging the question where did those numbers come from, given it’s inconceivable all the undecided voters voted for Uhuru while and the 3 marginal candidates did not drop out?

It is also significant as Dr. Wolfe noted that if Ipsos Synovate results are compared with what IEBC results, every single result for the eight presidential candidates was within a margin of 1.26 per cent except for Uhuru.

According to Dr. Wolfe, this was not a ‘tyranny of numbers” as earlier propagated by its originators but a ‘tyranny of turnout’ because as it turns out—again, putting aside the question of whether there was rigging, Uhuru did better in turn-out than did Raila, especially in their respective strongholds.

It’s, of course, unknown at this time what percentage of that turn-out was real and what was due to inflated or cooked up numbers as Raila and Cord contend, if any, but that’s obviously the issue before the Court to determine.

That notwithstanding, there does rise an interesting question and that is, now that it’s clear the Kalenjin were voting almost to the man—the caution again about putting aside rigging, for Uhuru and Ruto, can Raila win the presidency without the Kalenjin vote if there is a run-off or re-run?

The short answer is yes, he can.

This is because as the pollster Wolfe noted, Raila had more registered voters in his 20 strong counties than Uhuru did it turns out what made the difference minus the question of rigging, was voter turn-out; voters in Raila’s strongholds did not turn out as did those in Uhuru’s.

Were Raila to have voters in his strongholds turn out in near the proportions Uhuru’s did then it would be the battle of the titans and Raila will win simply because Uhuru has limited areas he can whip up the frenzy compared to Raila whose support spans across the country.

In that scenario, the Kalenjin vote becomes less significant for Raila but obviously the only life-line for Uhuru.

That notwithstanding, it still remains the case that Raila and Cord have not made a convincing case in Kaleland that they are the coalition that will seriously address the needs of the community, including historic injustices related to land, not Uhuru Kenyatta.

Were Raila and Cord to make that case persuasively, we could see a landslide election this time around.

This is particularly possible given the less ominous the ICC is becoming as to all remaining suspects, especially Ruto whose case one of the witnesses just withdrew and recanted his testimony.

The ICC being less and less a factor, the second round elections, may turn out to be the good old fashioned battle of the giants and their allies along tribal lines and the one who whips their side the most gets to get the prize and no rigging is even necessary to accomplish that.

Many if not most of us had hoped we have or could go beyond this, namely, tribalism politics in 2013 but looks like we may have to wait another time, hopefully not beyond the next election circle to rid us of this vice that promises nothing but status quo and stagnation in all that matter in bringing the country together with the concomitant progress presently lacking because of this very vice of tribalism.

[abdulmote]

Omwega,

The title scared the hell out of me, and I am not even a Kalenjin! Try to write something that may be strategically or tactfully beneficial to your leader...with a little thinking applied instead of 'just another Saturday column' for the sake of your contract with the Star.

[Omwenga]

Mar 23, 2013 22:02:55 GMT 3 abdulmote said:

Omwega,

The title scared the hell out of me, and I am not even a Kalenjin! Try to write something that may be strategically or tactfully beneficial to your leader...with a little thinking applied instead of 'just another Saturday column' for the sake of your contract with the Star.

Abdulmote,

Even when I write without thinking--and that's got to be very rare as I don't remember the last time, everything I write makes sense to me and others other than perhaps to some of those who may disagree with it, which is fine.

That being said, I do not write just for the sake of writing as all my writing and blogging is actually always inspired by something I have either read, heard or is simply in my mind and can't go away until I share it in writing.

As to whether what I pen strategically or tactically helps my "leader," my own counsel as to that stands second to none.

[omundu]

Omwenga, I guess the SC case will show whether the tyranny of numbers or rutos stronghold in kaleland is as tight as we all assume. I would suggest, if anyone has time, to look at cords petition and see the regions where numbers were subtracted from some candidates and added to others, where turnout was greatly inflated to suit a certain candidate. There are over 1.5 million extra presidential votes that don't add up with the downticket numbers. If you look carefully, most of those came from uhuruto strongholds.

Perhaps (and this assumption is pending what comes out of the case) ruto and uhuru may not even have the perceived grasp of their strongholds. CORD may in reality have bitten quite a chunk from them. But we shall see in time. People have been talking about a re-run but forgetting the elephant in the room: in case IEBC comes out irreparably discredited then who will manage the re-run which has to happen within sixty days of the ruling ? Apparently it is a very long process (constitutionally) removing the sitting commissioners and setting up a new body. We are all aware how long it took to disband the old one and set up this current one plus the political game play that is sure to happen. Some quarters have proposed the UN route, but isn't sixty days too short to notify them and all the technical requirements to be set up ? Besides I have a feeling jubilee may not like that idea for obvious reasons (don't worry, they will cry sovereignty).

[b6k]

Mar 23, 2013 21:36:46 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

In Raila Can Win the Presidency In Round 2 Without the Kalenjin Vote, published in the Star today, www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-113552/raila-can-win-round-2-without-kalenjin-vote which I post below, I offer reasons as to why.

It’s almost three weeks since Kenyans went to the polls and one can almost touch the sense of collective holding of the breath as we await the outcome of the petition Cord has filed challenging the results announced by IEBC that Uhuru won the presidency.

Raila and Cord maintain they have the evidence to show that the elections were rigged, IEBC, has responded with its rebuttal denying that they rigged the elections with Uhuru and Ruto, the not too innocent by-standers likely to agree with what IEBC says, whether they are enjoined in the case or not.

The merits of what each side contends aside, we can agree generally on a number of things already gleaned from the elections held on March 4, 2013.

For example, after more than five years since the dark days of post-election 2007, it is clear we have not learned lessons in the least on how to conduct dispute free elections, given the gigantic dispute that arose this time around and now headed to the Supreme Court for resolution.

When IEBC was constituted on November 9, 2011, there was a collective sigh of relief that we had a body that could finally conduct credible elections free of the ills committed by its predecessors.

To see before our unbelieving eyes the unfolding of events eerily similar to what happened in 2007 minus the violence that ensued is not only gravely disappointing, it goes to confirm we have, indeed, not learned anything from the 2007 experience that nearly plunged our country into a civil war.

How that could be would be better understood in the days, weeks and months even years to come.

For now, the Supreme Court has in its hands the fate of our country for how the court rules on the unprecedented and historic petition before it challenging the IEBC announcement that Uhuru won the presidential tally will largely determine which direction the country goes, especially in fostering democratic ideals and the rule of law under the new political dispensation.

The second thing we can generally agree on following the elections of March 4, 2013 is that, as in 2007, Kenyans went to the polls and concluded the exercise peacefully, even as they stood in lines for upwards of more than 10 hours in some locations—and by a record number.

This is a testament of not only the resilience of our people, but a sheer determination to have their voices heard thanks to the new constitutional freedoms and guarantees many have never believed would be possible in their lifetimes but is happening now.

Nothing speaks to this resilience and desire more than when we are told a 72-year old woman collapsed and died while in queue waiting to vote or in a less tragic case where another woman had to step away from the queue to have a baby.

Some have criticized and even called upon Raila to abandon his legal challenge of the presidential results and simply accept what was announced but that 72-year old who never got to cast her vote, or the woman who had to step out of the queue to have a baby would both certainly want to make sure their vote counts.

For that reason alone, such calls for the PM to abandon his case can only be characterized as selfish and not in the interest of those who take their right to vote seriously to the point they would stand in line for many hours and under very difficult circumstances, including suffering from hunger pains just so their voice can be heard—or at least they so hope.

On the other hand, it’s critical for the courts to actually determine what exactly happened and hold accountable those who may be found to have contributed to the failure of the electoral body to deliver results free of the things complained about or alleged by those challenging the results.

Put another way, Isaack Hassan and his team must in the end answer the question why would they spend billions of shillings on a system that they abandoned at the critical time for whatever reason they gave to resort to manual counting which the Kriegler Commission said was largely the reason we had the mischief done with the elections of 2007.

There are many other questions IEBC must answer but that’s for the courts and other relevant authorities to look into in the days and weeks, if not months to come.

At this point in time all the Court needs to determine is whether it’s true that there was massive rigging of the elections as Raila and Cord allege.

While the Court grapples with the monumental task on its hands, we can also glean some things from the disputed poll that may or may not be agreeable to all and these are:

To begin with, it’s abundantly clear rigging or not, tribalism is alive and well in Kenya.

There is not a single reason other than tribalism that can explain why two men charged with serious crimes against humanity can harvest as many votes as they did—again putting aside the question whether there was rigging or not, because the two mobilized their respective tribes to vote for them to the man while denying or keeping to the absolute minimum the number of votes other candidates could harvest among their tribes.

However, this is not the so-called “tyranny of numbers” much heralded by a local political pundit as the key to Uhuru’s victory but dismissed by others as propaganda designed to psychologically prepare the country for the rigging Raila and Cord now say took place and they can so prove.

Those dismissing the so-called “tyranny of numbers” as propaganda designed to prepare the country for rigging are not without an abundance of verifiable, sound and even scientific reasons:

First, the author of this ploy claimed at the time he unleashed his ‘tyranny of numbers’ that the Kikuyus and Kalenjin will vote as a bloc for Uhuru and Ruto instantly giving the duo 43% of the vote going by the total number of registered voters.

This was an outcome only possible in the figment of one’s imagination because at the time and even through the last days before the elections, virtually all reputable pollsters were unanimous in predicting a “dead heat” between Raila and Uhuru, with Raila Odinga having a slim lead.

In none of the polls did either candidate have more than 50% of the vote.

Whenever you mention polls, two things immediately come into play—and this is a universal concept and fact: when they favor your position, view or candidate, they are marvelous; when they don’t they are unreliable, paid for or otherwise belonging in the trash.

The truth is, however, it’s a fact that Kenyan pollsters have accurately predicted the results of the 2002 presidential elections; the 2005 referendum; the 2007 presidential elections; and the 2010 referendum.

As one analyst has put it, this is a track record of reliability which would be acceptable in any nation, and at any time since the advent of opinion polling.

That being the case, it became readily apparent long before the elections that the “tyranny of numbers” was really nothing but a clever invention of its author in cohorts with others with perhaps the purpose of psychologically preparing the country for rigging as many alleged because there is no way one could reconcile those ‘tyranny of numbers’ with the conventional polling data showing a close race between Raila and Uhuru.

This is a fact that is actually conclusively established in the results from the actual poll of March 4th—again, putting aside the question of rigging.

As the pollster Dr. Tom Wolfe of Ipsos Synovate put it, if one were to give Uhuru all the undecided vote going into the elections (about 2%) and add to that the numbers for 3 marginal candidates, the best Uhuru could have had on election day would have been 49.5%, yet the results IEBC announced show Uhuru at 50.7%, begging the question where did those numbers come from, given it’s inconceivable all the undecided voters voted for Uhuru while and the 3 marginal candidates did not drop out?

It is also significant as Dr. Wolfe noted that if Ipsos Synovate results are compared with what IEBC results, every single result for the eight presidential candidates was within a margin of 1.26 per cent except for Uhuru.

According to Dr. Wolfe, this was not a ‘tyranny of numbers” as earlier propagated by its originators but a ‘tyranny of turnout’ because as it turns out—again, putting aside the question of whether there was rigging, Uhuru did better in turn-out than did Raila, especially in their respective strongholds.

It’s, of course, unknown at this time what percentage of that turn-out was real and what was due to inflated or cooked up numbers as Raila and Cord contend, if any, but that’s obviously the issue before the Court to determine.

That notwithstanding, there does rise an interesting question and that is, now that it’s clear the Kalenjin were voting almost to the man—the caution again about putting aside rigging, for Uhuru and Ruto, can Raila win the presidency without the Kalenjin vote if there is a run-off or re-run?

The short answer is yes, he can.

This is because as the pollster Wolfe noted, Raila had more registered voters in his 20 strong counties than Uhuru did it turns out what made the difference minus the question of rigging, was voter turn-out; voters in Raila’s strongholds did not turn out as did those in Uhuru’s.

Were Raila to have voters in his strongholds turn out in near the proportions Uhuru’s did then it would be the battle of the titans and Raila will win simply because Uhuru has limited areas he can whip up the frenzy compared to Raila whose support spans across the country.

In that scenario, the Kalenjin vote becomes less significant for Raila but obviously the only life-line for Uhuru.

That notwithstanding, it still remains the case that Raila and Cord have not made a convincing case in Kaleland that they are the coalition that will seriously address the needs of the community, including historic injustices related to land, not Uhuru Kenyatta.

Were Raila and Cord to make that case persuasively, we could see a landslide election this time around.

This is particularly possible given the less ominous the ICC is becoming as to all remaining suspects, especially Ruto whose case one of the witnesses just withdrew and recanted his testimony.

The ICC being less and less a factor, the second round elections, may turn out to be the good old fashioned battle of the giants and their allies along tribal lines and the one who whips their side the most gets to get the prize and no rigging is even necessary to accomplish that.

Many if not most of us had hoped we have or could go beyond this, namely, tribalism politics in 2013 but looks like we may have to wait another time, hopefully not beyond the next election circle to rid us of this vice that promises nothing but status quo and stagnation in all that matter in bringing the country together with the concomitant progress presently lacking because of this very vice of tribalism.

My oh my. For those of you wondering why oyominto Omwenga seems to have gone off the deep end, fret ye not. A cursory glance through Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's classic, "On Death & Dying" which explained the 5 stages of grief exhibited by terminally ill patients when confronted with harsh reality of their imminent death depicts why our patient, Omwenga, is exhibiting signs of delusion.

The five stages of grief as per Kuebler-Ross are: (1) Denial, (2) Anger, (3) Bargaining, (4) Depression, (5) Acceptance. Clearly oyominto Omwenga is at stage one.....denial. We have a long way to walk him through the psychological states he will undergo given the disappointment of yet another shellacking at the polls. It however remains our civic duty to ensure our brothers & sisters who comprised the 43.4% that supported CORD are supported during their time of grief. This is important primarily because their reaction when they eventually move into stage 2 of grief, anger, once the SC decision comes through has the potential of serving the rest of KE with PEV round 2......

Omwenga (& the CORDashians amongst us), the sooner you come to the realization that you have been served a dish called fait accompli from jubilant Jubilee's can of whoop a$$, the sooner you will be able to accept your fate & move on. As another blogger stated in another thread, rather than keep trying the same thing over & over again (Raila will win this thing in round one of the elections; oh, we have been rigged out!; let Agwambo have another stab at this thing) when clearly ending up with the same miserable results time & time again, it is time for ODM CORD to look itself in the mirror & face the fact that Raila will never be president of KE & groom a new leader to take over from him. Trying to take down the rheumy eyed UK (whatever happened to that old nickname for Kamwana given to him by ODMers ;D) will lead to yet another defeat at the polls, especially since CORD has mastered the art of insulting its erstwhile partners as can be seen clearly in this thread (ati you do not need the Kalenjin vote!). Pure marlakey!

[Omwenga]

Mar 24, 2013 6:35:40 GMT 3 b6k said:

My oh my. For those of you wondering why oyominto Omwenga seems to have gone off the deep end, fret ye not. A cursory glance through Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's classic, "On Death & Dying" which explained the 5 stages of grief exhibited by terminally ill patients when confronted with harsh reality of their imminent death depicts why our patient, Omwenga, is exhibiting signs of delusion.

The five stages of grief as per Kuebler-Ross are: (1) Denial, (2) Anger, (3) Bargaining, (4) Depression, (5) Acceptance. Clearly oyominto Omwenga is at stage one.....denial. We have a long way to walk him through the psychological states he will undergo given the disappointment of yet another shellacking at the polls. It however remains our civic duty to ensure our brothers & sisters who comprised the 43.4% that supported CORD are supported during their time of grief. This is important primarily because their reaction when they eventually move into stage 2 of grief, anger, once the SC decision comes through has the potential of serving the rest of KE with PEV round 2......

Omwenga (& the CORDashians amongst us), the sooner you come to the realization that you have been served a dish called fait accompli from jubilant Jubilee's can of whoop a$$, the sooner you will be able to accept your fate & move on. As another blogger stated in another thread, rather than keep trying the same thing over & over again (Raila will win this thing in round one of the elections; oh, we have been rigged out!; let Agwambo have another stab at this thing) when clearly ending up with the same miserable results time & time again, it is time for ODM CORD to look itself in the mirror & face the fact that Raila will never be president of KE & groom a new leader to take over from him. Trying to take down the rheumy eyed UK (whatever happened to that old nickname for Kamwana given to him by ODMers ;D) will lead to yet another defeat at the polls, especially since CORD has mastered the art of insulting its erstwhile partners as can be seen clearly in this thread (ati you do not need the Kalenjin vote!). Pure marlakey!

b6k,

You're the one living in a world of denial and delusion because you obviously refuse to believe that the elections were rigged and massively so; that's called denial.

Your believing that one elected under such circumstances, namely, in a rigged election such as this, can become president is delusional.

We know it's your wish and dream that Raila never becomes president, a majority of Kenyans hold the opposite view and that's the man has proven himself over and over as a leader our country deserves at this time and point of our history and he shall be by the will of the people as expressed via the ballot.

In response to whoever the blogger is that said rather than Cord trying the same thing over and over, tell him or her rather than Jubilee and its progeny trying to steal elections each circle, let them try and convince voters to vote for them and accept their verdict rather than turning around upon rejection and trying to force themselves down their throats.

You can either un-bury your head from deep in the sand where you have it in denial and shake yourself to the reality Uhuru did not win but the obviously compromised IEBC fooled you and others to believe he did or the Supreme Court will do that for you.

How we know you and like minded wish we could just accept the assault on democracy and move on but that ain't going to happen.

We confidently await the Supreme Court's decision we are equally confident will be on the side of law and justice which in turn is on the side of the people's will and by that I mean the will of the majority of those who went to the polls on March 4th 2013.

[Omwenga]

Mar 23, 2013 23:48:23 GMT 3 omundu said:

Omwenga, I guess the SC case will show whether the tyranny of numbers or rutos stronghold in kaleland is as tight as we all assume. I would suggest, if anyone has time, to look at cords petition and see the regions where numbers were subtracted from some candidates and added to others, where turnout was greatly inflated to suit a certain candidate. There are over 1.5 million extra presidential votes that don't add up with the downticket numbers. If you look carefully, most of those came from uhuruto strongholds.

Perhaps (and this assumption is pending what comes out of the case) ruto and uhuru may not even have the perceived grasp of their strongholds. CORD may in reality have bitten quite a chunk from them. But we shall see in time. People have been talking about a re-run but forgetting the elephant in the room: in case IEBC comes out irreparably discredited then who will manage the re-run which has to happen within sixty days of the ruling ? Apparently it is a very long process (constitutionally) removing the sitting commissioners and setting up a new body. We are all aware how long it took to disband the old one and set up this current one plus the political game play that is sure to happen. Some quarters have proposed the UN route, but isn't sixty days too short to notify them and all the technical requirements to be set up ? Besides I have a feeling jubilee may not like that idea for obvious reasons (don't worry, they will cry sovereignty).

Omundu,

I am with you in much of what you have said here.

Regarding what you characterize as the elephant in the room, there are several practical solutions that will be put before the court by Cord as the way to deal with the elephant and one one will easily be adopted and made part of the Court's orders when the Court grants the petition

[b6k]

Mar 24, 2013 8:18:02 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Mar 24, 2013 6:35:40 GMT 3 b6k said:

My oh my. For those of you wondering why oyominto Omwenga seems to have gone off the deep end, fret ye not. A cursory glance through Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's classic, "On Death & Dying" which explained the 5 stages of grief exhibited by terminally ill patients when confronted with harsh reality of their imminent death depicts why our patient, Omwenga, is exhibiting signs of delusion.

The five stages of grief as per Kuebler-Ross are: (1) Denial, (2) Anger, (3) Bargaining, (4) Depression, (5) Acceptance. Clearly oyominto Omwenga is at stage one.....denial. We have a long way to walk him through the psychological states he will undergo given the disappointment of yet another shellacking at the polls. It however remains our civic duty to ensure our brothers & sisters who comprised the 43.4% that supported CORD are supported during their time of grief. This is important primarily because their reaction when they eventually move into stage 2 of grief, anger, once the SC decision comes through has the potential of serving the rest of KE with PEV round 2......

Omwenga (& the CORDashians amongst us), the sooner you come to the realization that you have been served a dish called fait accompli from jubilant Jubilee's can of whoop a$$, the sooner you will be able to accept your fate & move on. As another blogger stated in another thread, rather than keep trying the same thing over & over again (Raila will win this thing in round one of the elections; oh, we have been rigged out!; let Agwambo have another stab at this thing) when clearly ending up with the same miserable results time & time again, it is time for ODM CORD to look itself in the mirror & face the fact that Raila will never be president of KE & groom a new leader to take over from him. Trying to take down the rheumy eyed UK (whatever happened to that old nickname for Kamwana given to him by ODMers ;D) will lead to yet another defeat at the polls, especially since CORD has mastered the art of insulting its erstwhile partners as can be seen clearly in this thread (ati you do not need the Kalenjin vote!). Pure marlakey!

b6k,

You're the one living in a world of denial and delusion because you obviously refuse to believe that the elections were rigged and massively so; that's called denial.

Your believing that one elected under such circumstances, namely, in a rigged election such as this, can become president is delusional.

We know it's your wish and dream that Raila never becomes president, a majority of Kenyans hold the opposite view and that's the man has proven himself over and over as a leader our country deserves at this time and point of our history and he shall be by the will of the people as expressed via the ballot.

In response to whoever the blogger is that said rather than Cord trying the same thing over and over, tell him or her rather than Jubilee and its progeny trying to steal elections each circle, let them try and convince voters to vote for them and accept their verdict rather than turning around upon rejection and trying to force themselves down their throats.

You can either un-bury your head from deep in the sand where you have it in denial and shake yourself to the reality Uhuru did not win but the obviously compromised IEBC fooled you and others to believe he did or the Supreme Court will do that for you.

How we know you and like minded wish we could just accept the assault on democracy and move on but that ain't going to happen.

We confidently await the Supreme Court's decision we are equally confident will be on the side of law and justice which in turn is on the side of the people's will and by that I mean the will of the majority of those who went to the polls on March 4th 2013.

Omwenga, & when the SC rules in favour of throwing out the petition by a decision of 5 against it & 1 for it (the one being Mutunga) since the SC has been "bought" for KSh 300 million per judge (a story I hear doing rounds amongst my ODM pals), what then? When will it ever end? Won't the whine of the day be "but what do you expect from judges who have been compromised by Uhuru's deep pockets?", or will that be the day you organize the million man march round 2?

In short, if you always find yourselves on the back-foot, re-organize, get prepared to be a healthy opposition party, but all the whining's gotta go, buddy.....

[kamalet]

One has to really feel sorry for Raila especially if this is written with a hope that the big Cajuns will read it and help massage his ego.

There is a coterie of hangers on lift seekers who will keep cheating Jakom and as long as they have his year, the man appears to believe all he is told.

But I highly doubt Raila is the fool these hangers on think he is. I was originally suggested that the a kalenjin would not vote for Uhuru an the polls were bashed even when they got it wrong that 40% of the Kalenjin would vote for Jakom. Well we all know how they voted to the surprise of even the kikuyu who may have started believing these rumours.

B6k, this chap had been wrong so many times I am surprised he believes he can sell this one even when the previous prophecy fell flat!

[omundu]

B6k, or is it BASIC (have I cracked your codename? Lol)

On more serious matters, hii maneno ya 300 million for each judge (rumours as is) got me thinking... Kwani from MP's to IEBC etc getting all that money in bribes running into billions. Where does this money come from ? Kwani it is a bottomless pit ? Kweli some kenyans have cash if indeed the rumours are true. I am not an economist so someone answer me this: doesn't all that cash flying around do some damage to the inflation ?

That notwithstanding, I woke up early this sunday to catch our mboys in Hong Kong kicking some portuguese ass in sevens, (yeah, take that you colonialists!!! Lol). To stay awake, I had to load my system with copious quantities of coffee so allow me to indulge my caffeine induced overactive mind and add to the theory of bribing the judges and connecting it to the '2.7 billion shs edict' issued by Ruto recently.

I would love then (if above is true hehehe) to see how the judges explain their verdict irrespective of the evidence staring them eyeball to eyeball. Maybe, evidence notwithstanding, they will sleep peacefully knowing that at least they asked for a higher price (10 million times more) than Judas Iscariot. And for a lesser Sin. That cheap bastard... By the way, how do these bribes work ? Is it negotiable ? Couldn't they go for a higher price ? Does one judge get more than the other (thanks to his/her negotiating skills) or do they sit together and issue a blanket price ? You know!!! For the sake of FAIRNES and HONOUR amongst Judges ?

[Horth]

Mar 24, 2013 8:23:49 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Omundu,

I am with you in much of what you have said here.

Regarding what you characterize as the elephant in the room, there are several practical solutions that will be put before the court by Cord as the way to deal with the elephant and one one will easily be adopted and made part of the Court's orders when the Court grants the petition

Doesn't sound like CORD are as confident as you are:

The electoral commission has turned down a request by Cord affiliate parties to change the list of nominated MPs in order to accommodate its top leaders.

The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) has written back to the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), Wiper Democratic Movement and Ford Kenya explaining that the lists of nominated MPs and senators could not be altered after the closure date.

The three parties had jointly written to the IEBC on March 15 requesting that they be allowed to re-open and “rectify” their lists of nominees to Parliament, Senate and county assemblies.

More: Cord’s push to nominate new MPs fails

[Omwenga]

Mar 24, 2013 13:24:25 GMT 3 Horth said:

Mar 24, 2013 8:23:49 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Omundu,

I am with you in much of what you have said here.

Regarding what you characterize as the elephant in the room, there are several practical solutions that will be put before the court by Cord as the way to deal with the elephant and one one will easily be adopted and made part of the Court's orders when the Court grants the petition

Doesn't sound like CORD are as confident as you are:

The electoral commission has turned down a request by Cord affiliate parties to change the list of nominated MPs in order to accommodate its top leaders.

The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) has written back to the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), Wiper Democratic Movement and Ford Kenya explaining that the lists of nominated MPs and senators could not be altered after the closure date.

The three parties had jointly written to the IEBC on March 15 requesting that they be allowed to re-open and “rectify” their lists of nominees to Parliament, Senate and county assemblies.

More: Cord’s push to nominate new MPs fails

Horth,

I am at a loss as to what this have to do with confidence; Cord is merely trying to rectify its list of nominees and IEBC miffed by the fact Cord caught them with their pants down is trying to frustrate them as some form of payback but they don't have the last say in this so expect a petition to this effect soon.

It's, of course, laughable for anyone to suggest that Cord is trying to amend the list to accommodate Raila and Musyoka in the event the Supreme Court doesn't go their way.

The correct legal position is no party can add to the list of nominees submitted before the elections as required by law but there is nothing in the law that says they cannot reorder the list of the names submitted.

Nothing so expect either IEBC to reconsider upon wiser counsel or the court will authoritatively speak to that in due time.

[Omwenga]

Mar 24, 2013 8:34:56 GMT 3 b6k said:

Mar 24, 2013 8:18:02 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

b6k,

You're the one living in a world of denial and delusion because you obviously refuse to believe that the elections were rigged and massively so; that's called denial.

Your believing that one elected under such circumstances, namely, in a rigged election such as this, can become president is delusional.

We know it's your wish and dream that Raila never becomes president, a majority of Kenyans hold the opposite view and that's the man has proven himself over and over as a leader our country deserves at this time and point of our history and he shall be by the will of the people as expressed via the ballot.

In response to whoever the blogger is that said rather than Cord trying the same thing over and over, tell him or her rather than Jubilee and its progeny trying to steal elections each circle, let them try and convince voters to vote for them and accept their verdict rather than turning around upon rejection and trying to force themselves down their throats.

You can either un-bury your head from deep in the sand where you have it in denial and shake yourself to the reality Uhuru did not win but the obviously compromised IEBC fooled you and others to believe he did or the Supreme Court will do that for you.

How we know you and like minded wish we could just accept the assault on democracy and move on but that ain't going to happen.

We confidently await the Supreme Court's decision we are equally confident will be on the side of law and justice which in turn is on the side of the people's will and by that I mean the will of the majority of those who went to the polls on March 4th 2013.

Omwenga, & when the SC rules in favour of throwing out the petition by a decision of 5 against it & 1 for it (the one being Mutunga) since the SC has been "bought" for KSh 300 million per judge (a story I hear doing rounds amongst my ODM pals), what then? When will it ever end? Won't the whine of the day be "but what do you expect from judges who have been compromised by Uhuru's deep pockets?", or will that be the day you organize the million man march round 2?

In short, if you always find yourselves on the back-foot, re-organize, get prepared to be a healthy opposition party, but all the whining's gotta go, buddy.....

b6k,

I personally overheard and have blogged about a Jubilee operative proclaiming loud enough to be heard nearby in what in hindsight was drunk driven bragging at an exclusive hang-out frequented by Who Is Who in business and politics in Nairobi that Jubilee has enough money to buy any judge involved in any case Raila or Cord may bring to court and accordingly dared them to do so and this was the very day Raila said he and Cord will go to court.

As I would later confirm from a reliable source, this drunkard was actually not joking or even blabbing things he didn't have any idea what he was talking about as this was part of the thinking on that side of the camp.

Fortunately, however, and I can speak this with confidence based on my own sourcing as to even the potential, none of the justices sitting in the Supreme Court can be bought and no amount of buying can change the outcome of this case from a ruling consistent with the facts and evidence.

None and I can even say it here right here and now that in the unlikely event the Supreme Court doesn't rule in favor of Raila and Cord, it wouldn't be because any or all of the justices ruling against the petition were bought.

I can't tell you what their rationale or basis would be in that event as I can't think of any other than one I need not speculate about but all I can tell you is I and others are confident the integrity and honor of our Supreme Court justices is above reproach to take us back to the Moi era days where it was a joke to expect "justice" that was not paid for in Kenya.

Interestingly, it wasn't because we were concerned that the Supreme Court was bought and paid for by the other side when we decided not to go to court back in 2008; rather, it was simply because of the fact that the court was so hopelessly compromised no amount of bribing could make it render a favorable decision in favor of then Raila and ODM, even if he were to try and do so, not to say that he did or even contemplated such a useless approach.

Some things go deeper than money and that was the case with the 2008 Supreme Court but thank God and efforts of stalwarts like Raila we now have a reformed judiciary at the top working on downwards such that we can state with confidence the Supreme Court would render a decision informed only by facts and evidence keeping in mind the interest of our beloved country.

[jakaswanga]

Mar 24, 2013 6:35:40 GMT 3 b6k said:

. Omwenga (& the CORDashians amongst us), the sooner you come to the realization that you have been served a dish called fait accompli from jubilant Jubilee's can of whoop a$$, the sooner you will be able to accept your fate & move on. As another blogger stated in another thread, rather than keep trying the same thing over & over again (Raila will win this thing in round one of the elections; oh, we have been rigged out!; let Agwambo have another stab at this thing) when clearly ending up with the same miserable results time & time again, it is time for ODM CORD to look itself in the mirror & face the fact that Raila will never be president of KE & groom a new leader to take over from him. Trying to take down the rheumy eyed UK (whatever happened to that old nickname for Kamwana given to him by ODMers ;D) will lead to yet another defeat at the polls, especially since CORD has mastered the art of insulting its erstwhile partners as can be seen clearly in this thread (ati you do not need the Kalenjin vote!). Pure marlakey!

b6k

When people like Omwenga fly around in choppers in the tow of Raila's coat-tails, and never blog about these other primary issues of importance to Wanjiku, nor well-known MOUs of corruption between ODM luminaries and PNU moguls, do you see why we call them Railamaniacs with impunity. Their silence is a necessary oath of allegiance, otherwise they would be thrown under the mbas, sorry, chopper, and they wouldn't dare risk that!

So Omwenga can blog, blog after blog blasting away at Uhuruto at full throttle, hysterically calling all non believers Raila haters, but there he is hoarding information which, in the public interest, would be very enlightening to the conduct of the campaigns, and deeper appreciation of the candidates.

May be in his memoirs then. No need suiciding himself now. everywhere is Pyongyang, even CORD flights! ;D

Omwenga, direct question. Have you ever heard of any oil scam story [it is old, you could have forgotten, seeing that mega-scams have been the daily diet of the GCG] and her key movers in both courts? Have you ever asked your boss man to man if there is something you need to know? anything, even Wetangula and Turkana oil blocks?

Corruption in ODM is a no go area for your blogs. It is only you who does not know. We, we even know why!

Why did you people fail to drill Raila, that in a one on one, he can not call Uhuru Kenyatta a land thief and get away with it. Now you saw on national TV debate, how UK killed him and that propaganda line. Which cases do I have in court?

NB: You say, Omwenga, that CORD can make the case in Kalenjin land that they will sort out the land issue? Are you out of your mind? Don't you have any Kalenjin friends? Haven't they told you: Orengo was 5 years long the minister. List what he did. Go play with children elsewhere, Arap Mibei, may be the Bakamba are fools, we here are not blind.

Omwenga, in the past three weeks some of us have been researching how come Ruto swept Kalenjin to the last man. Ask the people, they will tell you if you have a relationship of honesty with them.

But you come in a chopper, they wear masks too. Tell you what you wanna hear. All in the name of the game of politics.

Why wasn't the turn-out in Luo Nyanza as high as Mount Kenya? You people rigged the primaries, abused the peoples trust, then took their loyalty for granted. 10-15% said: Ka en mana kama to kara obedi, thoo. [If this is the so-called our government, leave me out of it.

Actually there was a limited boycott in Luoland. Call it sabotage. Not much, but enough to make a decisive difference. Just like you CAN NOT TAKE RIGGING FROM THE IEBC, some folk in Luoland wouldn't forgive a rigging from even Raila.

A bit of the New Kenya. President elect Uhuru too is in line to make her acquaintance soon!

[Omwenga]

Mar 24, 2013 15:03:08 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

When people like Omwenga fly around in choppers in the tow of Raila's coat-tails, and never blog about these other primary issues of importance to Wanjiku, nor well-known MOUs of corruption between ODM luminaries and PNU moguls, do you see why we call them Railamaniacs with impunity. Their silence is a necessary oath of allegiance, otherwise they would be thrown under the mbas, sorry, chopper, and they wouldn't dare risk that!

Ori Jakaswanga,

About this time last year, a colleague of mine and I were in very advanced stages of importing 3 choppers to be leased in Kenya during the elections and afterwards make them available for general lease as well as for our business needs.

We abandoned the idea when we discovered there were already 27 choppers in the country and therefore the market was saturated for this to make sense from a business stand-point.

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

When I say 24/7 I know choppers cannot fly after 6:00pm but you get my point.

I say all this because I have never seen the relevance of all of these personal matters relative to what we discuss or debate here and to also edify you that if you think my blogging is influenced by riding in choppers, then you have a learn about who I am and what motivates me to do what I do, which you can easily find on my blog in blogs such as The Criteria Everyone Should Use In Deciding Who To Vote For and Why I Blog omwenga.com/2011/06/04/the-criteria-everyone-should-use-in-deciding-who-to-vote-for-and-why-i-blog/.

Regarding corruption, here is what I have previously blogged about it and there is really nothing more to add to this even though penned more than a year ago and half ago other than to reiterate Raila stands to do a far much better job in fighting corruption than anyone presently seeking the presidency: Five Myths and Five Fallacies About Corruption In Kenya, omwenga.com/2011/10/29/five-truths-and-five-fallacies-about-corruption-and-the-war-against-it/.

So Omwenga can blog, blog after blog blasting away at Uhuruto at full throttle, hysterically calling all non believers Raila haters, but there he is hoarding information which, in the public interest, would be very enlightening to the conduct of the campaigns, and deeper appreciation of the candidates.

Not sure what information I am "hoarding" but if you think I'll be out here blabbing about things that don't help the cause then you're mistaken as to what my objective is. If you've read my link above on myths and fallacies, you'll understand what I mean by that.

May be in his memoirs then.

Memoirs will come for sure, God willing.

No need suiciding himself now. everywhere is Pyongyang, even CORD flights! ;D

I am first and foremost a businessman and in case any of you didn't know, in business, there is no such a thing as being Corded, Jubileed, etc and no one knows this better than the major politicians in Kenya including Raila and Uhuru so your talk about yours truly "suiciding" himself makes no sense; you think he would withhold information he thought was in the national interest just because doing so would be suicidal?

That doesn't make sense at all; not to yours truly anyway.

There is a difference between that, namely, sharing vital information in the national interest or debate and disclosing things that may be strategically unwise, keeping the national interest in mind.

Omwenga, direct question. Have you ever heard of any oil scam story [it is old, you could have forgotten, seeing that mega-scams have been the daily diet of the GCG] and her key movers in both courts? Have you ever asked your boss man to man if there is something you need to know? anything, even Wetangula and Turkana oil blocks?

Go back to all my thousands of blogs I have penned you'll not find anywhere I have disclosed what it is I have talked with my "boss" about and I am not about to start doing that now.

I can tell you I do know all there is to know about Wetangula and the Turkana oil blocks.

Talking about Turkana, let me take this opportunity to congratulate my good friend Hon. Josephat Nanok for being elected governor of Turkana. The people made a wise choice and he'll deliver as governor as promised much to the benefit of not just the Turkana, but the country as a whole.

And while at that, let me share a musing in my memoirs:

Those who follow my blog know I attended the late Michuki's funeral and blogged that I was supposed to meet him one time in Nairobi but he happened to be out of the country so we agreed that we'll meet the next time I was in Nairobi but sadly this would not come to be as he passed on.

I shared this fact with a friend to which she quipped, so was he going to assign you one of the blocks?

I actually had to think about it for a moment and told her I didn't see anything wrong with that, not that that's what the meeting was to be about.

Corruption in ODM is a no go area for your blogs. It is only you who does not know. We, we even know why!

I refer you to what I have said about this above.

I can tell you by way of reiterating what I have said before upteen times I am a true champion of all reforms, including getting rid of corruption and impunity.

Why did you people fail to drill Raila, that in a one on one, he can not call Uhuru Kenyatta a land thief and get away with it. Now you saw on national TV debate, how UK killed him and that propaganda line. Which cases do I have in court?

I have been around politicians and their advisers to tell you politics may be a science in theory but in practice there is more to it, which means as any phenomena, being right or wrong about any given political strategy or tactic is not exactly like pouring boiling hot water on oneself and not expecting to be burned.

NB: You say, Omwenga, that CORD can make the case in Kalenjin land that they will sort out the land issue? Are you out of your mind? Don't you have any Kalenjin friends? Haven't they told you: Orengo was 5 years long the minister. List what he did. Go play with children elsewhere, Arap Mibei, may be the Bakamba are fools, we here are not blind.

Yes, I have trusted Kale friends and my position is partly informed by my discussions I have had and continue to have with them.

As for Orengo being minister for lands and what he did, let me tell you this much for a fact you can take to the bank: there is nothing Orengo could have done to resolve the historical injustices related to land without the support or even acquiesce of Kibaki.

Nothing.

Omwenga, in the past three weeks some of us have been researching how come Ruto swept Kalenjin to the last man. Ask the people, they will tell you if you have a relationship of honesty with them.

You can assume or should know we, too, have been doing our research and know what happened besides rigging.

But you come in a chopper, they wear masks too. Tell you what you wanna hear. All in the name of the game of politics.

Maybe, but we're intelligent enough to separate that from the real deal--or at least as much as possible and that's been and continues to be done.

Why wasn't the turn-out in Luo Nyanza as high as Mount Kenya? You people rigged the primaries, abused the peoples trust, then took their loyalty for granted. 10-15% said: Ka en mana kama to kara obedi, thoo. [If this is the so-called our government, leave me out of it.

I'll grant you there was an unnecessary political wrangling within ODM in some parts of Nyanza but that's not the reason we're headed to a re-run or run-off as the case may be.

Actually there was a limited boycott in Luoland. Call it sabotage. Not much, but enough to make a decisive difference. Just like you CAN NOT TAKE RIGGING FROM THE IEBC, some folk in Luoland wouldn't forgive a rigging from even Raila.

Again, that may be the case but in the larger scheme of things, Raila wins the presidency in an open and transparent elections to follow the nullification by the Supreme Court of the bogus announcement by the obviously compromised IEBC that Uhuru won when he, in fact, did not even come close.

A bit of the New Kenya. President elect Uhuru too is in line to make her acquaintance soon!

"President-elect" Uhuru will soon be ex-"president elect."

[kamalet]

This is. exactly why we need to close this election thing next week. I frankly have no more space for the flossing that is being thrown at us every time .......chopper available 24/7!

[Horth]

Mar 24, 2013 16:14:39 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

My deepest sympathies.

Might I suggest flipping a coin?

[Omwenga]

Mar 24, 2013 17:11:54 GMT 3 Horth said:

Mar 24, 2013 16:14:39 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

My deepest sympathies.

Might I suggest flipping a coin?

;D ;D ;D

Good thought Horth even though mithiks it depends on the occasion; if it's ribbon cutting for one of the many projects soon to be launched when the dust settles, then riding in mine with the investors and local partners would be more apt than riding to Bondo with PORK for nyama choma over a weekend.

[jakaswanga]

Omwenga Ori, Mind my hangover!

Otuono-Maro is a hidden pocket which allows a son in-law to tell the mother inlaw he has drained all his pockets, while actually hiding a savings account near his balls!

Mar 24, 2013 16:14:39 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Ori Jakaswanga,

About this time last year, a colleague of mine and I were in very advanced stages of importing 3 choppers to be leased in Kenya during the elections and after wards make them available for general lease as well as for our business needs.

We abandoned the idea when we discovered there were already 27 choppers in the country and therefore the market was saturated for this to make sense from a business stand-point.

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

That would be well after you had ridden around in Jakom's chopper. You see when you have it in your CV that you used to ride around in the President's chopper, that is proximity to power, and it is business credit that can be cashed. In commercial terms we say you have upped your stocks.

When a billionaire has been invited to a private dinner of guests with the POTUS or PM of the Unite Kingdom, you will be surprised at the expression which is used: he got key that opens doors. In such meetings, the head of for instance EXXON MOBIL, the biggest Oil Gigant in the world, gets assurances that, should Angola make moves to buy them out and have the Chinese inherit their off-shore well, the USA and God will the tell the Angolans that is a red line.

so riding in the PM's chopper does not mean you are too poor to afford a Jumbo Jet. No, it simply defines and clarifies a relationship, and the terms.

When I say 24/7 I know choppers cannot fly after 6:00pm but you get my point.

O yes I do. You want that limitation erased. It curtails business. You know in Kenya, from a song called RIZIKI by Ongoro and Awillo: ata maindi choma sasa mwauza usiku jameni! So why have the choppers fly only with daylight! absolutely primitive! 24 hrs economy we want, with flights and all!

I say all this because I have never seen the relevance of all of these personal matters relative to what we discuss or debate here and to also edify you that if you think my blogging is influenced by riding in choppers, then you have a learn about who I am and what motivates me to do what I do, which you can easily find on my blog in blogs such as The Criteria Everyone Should Use In Deciding Who To Vote For and Why I Bloghttp://omwenga.com/2011/06/04/the-criter....and-why-i-blog/.

You do not see the relevance of men who ride one candidate's chopper called to task when they permanently write against the other candidate? I am asking then if you business interests coincide with a certain candidate, and your blogging too, in so far as it trashes the other side without repose, is a business venture!

Regarding corruption, here is what I have previously blogged about it and there is really nothing more to add to this even though penned more than a year ago and half ago other than to reiterate Raila stands to do a far much better job in fighting corruption than anyone presently seeking the presidency: Five Myths and Five Fallacies About Corruption In Kenya,http://omwenga.com/2011/10/29/five-truth....war-against-it/.

Nothing more to add on a phenomenon that bleeds the country 30% of her GDP per year! And Raila has been co-ordinating ministries and supervising them, so to speak. I Will ask. What is the explanation he so successfully supervised such massive corruption! He wins a gold medal for sleeping on the job, unless ....

Not sure what information I am "hoarding" but if you think I'll be out here blabbing about things that don't help the cause then you're mistaken as to what my objective is. If you've read my link above on myths and fallacies, you'll understand what I mean by that.

By not interrogating obvious discrepancies in public persona and actual practice, while favouritely if not fervently blogging on the subject, that is already the hoarding. Avoiding a question in fear of possible answers and further raised questions.

Memoirs will come for sure, God willing.

I will buy the book if i am still alive --waragi does things to a man's life expectancy.-- and I wont download it for free like you adviced on Miguna's books! --Miguna should sue you for that!

I am first and foremost a businessman and in case any of you didn't know, in business, there is no such a thing as being Corded, Jubileed, etc and no one knows this better than the major politicians in Kenya including Raila and Uhuru so your talk about yours truly "suiciding" himself makes no sense; you think he would withhold information he thought was in the national interest just because doing so would be suicidal?

For a certain clas of businessmen, at a certain level. One must show colour. That is why CITIZEN became CORD, and now Macharia is reported to have fainted when UK won.

NB: UK is planning to build a media empire like Berlusconi of Italia. He would have to swallow Macharia's empire or buy him out forcedly. Macharia was running for poltical protection from CORD.

Stakes, Omwenga, stakes. And their heights.

That doesn't make sense at all; not to yours truly anyway.
There is a difference between that, namely, sharing vital information in the national interest or debate and disclosing things that may be strategically unwise, keeping the national interest in mind.

No worries, that is why independent opinion and thinking come at such a high premium. To analyse and order the snippets of information that are only dropped by folks like you for propaganda purposes.
You can run, but you wont hide.

Go back to all my thousands of blogs I have penned you'll not find anywhere I have disclosed what it is I have talked with my "boss" about and I am not about to start doing that now.

Other reasons can simply be because you are partners in crime. Politics is a dirty game. And he uses your blog somehow.

I can tell you I do know all there is to know about Wetangula and the Turkana oil blocks.

I would be more interested in any irregularities, to tie up with the other irregularities involving one of the prospectors with Uganda's M7 --now laid to rest I think , and how all this plays in the new Turkana county, and whether there is a business plan that detours us off the path of Nigeria and Chad, the other oil Moguls of Afrika.
You catch my interest. One of the companies has been handing out shares for free to 'connected people'!
When you know all there is to know about Turkana oil, and you blog, and you shut up about such info, why should I not think you are hoarding for wrong reasons?

Why did you people fail to drill Raila, that in a one on one, he can not call Uhuru Kenyatta a land thief and get away with it. Now you saw on national TV debate, how UK killed him and that propaganda line. Which cases do I have in court?
I have been around politicians and their advisers to tell you politics may be a science in theory but in practice there is more to it, which means as any phenomena, being right or wrong about any given political strategy or tactic is not exactly like pouring boiling hot water on oneself and not expecting to be burned.

Some are elementary blunders that reveal an amateuristic approach. Lack of preparation, if not outright stupidity. And one can loose an election that way.

As for Orengo being minister for lands and what he did, let me tell you this much for a fact you can take to the bank: there is nothing Orengo could have done to resolve the historical injustices related to land without the support or even acquiesce of Kibaki.
Nothing.

That is a level of incompetence, non performance which Orengo should interrogated for. Why did he not confront Kibaki? where is the evidence Kibaki always adamantly refused? This is passing the buck Omwenga. And what did Raila do when Orengo reported Baba Jimmy kept on kicking his butt?

I'll grant you there was an unnecessary political wrangling within ODM in some parts of Nyanza but that's not the reason we're headed to a re-run or run-off as the case may be.

Wrangling within ODM is not a problem. Rigging blatantly the primaries, was the crime that stuck in the throat of folks!

Again, that may be the case but in the larger scheme of things, Raila wins the presidency in an open and transparent elections to follow the nullification by the Supreme Court of the bogus announcement by the obviously compromised IEBC that Uhuru won when he, in fact, did not even come close.

In the bigger scheme of things too, a leading president who rigs elections for his cronies in his home turf, could do the same nationally when he becomes the president. Bigger scheme is a knife that cuts both ways.

"President-elect" Uhuru will soon be ex-"president elect."

Yes, 5 years is a short time. time does fly. State House is a morgue where PORK is temporarily stationed, on his way to political burial. Look at Kibaki and Raila now, only yesterday they were smiling with Koffi Annan and Kikwete, launching the GCG. Now, now they are fighting hard to have a cameraman notice them. Power, now you have it, now you don't.
But do we ever learn??
We are humans. we need to be burned to know fire is for real.

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Mar 24, 2013 10:21:12 GMT 3 kamalet said:

One has to really feel sorry for Raila especially if this is written with a hope that the big Cajuns will read it and help massage his ego.

There is a coterie of hangers on lift seekers who will keep cheating Jakom and as long as they have his year, the man appears to believe all he is told.

But I highly doubt Raila is the fool these hangers on think he is. I was originally suggested that the a kalenjin would not vote for Uhuru an the polls were bashed even when they got it wrong that 40% of the Kalenjin would vote for Jakom. Well we all know how they voted to the surprise of even the kikuyu who may have started believing these rumours.

B6k, this chap had been wrong so many times I am surprised he believes he can sell this one even when the previous prophecy fell flat!

Kamale for one to admit that over a decade of his best efforts as a diaspora consultant to the government in waiting are futile at best, useless at worst must be a very painful thing....

[b6k]

Mar 24, 2013 10:51:20 GMT 3 omundu said:

B6k, or is it BASIC (have I cracked your codename? Lol)

On more serious matters, hii maneno ya 300 million for each judge (rumours as is) got me thinking... Kwani from MP's to IEBC etc getting all that money in bribes running into billions. Where does this money come from ? Kwani it is a bottomless pit ? Kweli some kenyans have cash if indeed the rumours are true. I am not an economist so someone answer me this: doesn't all that cash flying around do some damage to the inflation ?

That notwithstanding, I woke up early this sunday to catch our mboys in Hong Kong kicking some portuguese ass in sevens, (yeah, take that you colonialists!!! Lol). To stay awake, I had to load my system with copious quantities of coffee so allow me to indulge my caffeine induced overactive mind and add to the theory of bribing the judges and connecting it to the '2.7 billion shs edict' issued by Ruto recently.

I would love then (if above is true hehehe) to see how the judges explain their verdict irrespective of the evidence staring them eyeball to eyeball. Maybe, evidence notwithstanding, they will sleep peacefully knowing that at least they asked for a higher price (10 million times more) than Judas Iscariot. And for a lesser Sin. That cheap bastard... By the way, how do these bribes work ? Is it negotiable ? Couldn't they go for a higher price ? Does one judge get more than the other (thanks to his/her negotiating skills) or do they sit together and issue a blanket price ? You know!!! For the sake of FAIRNES and HONOUR amongst Judges ?

Omundu, BASIC works for me as I break things down to brass tacks for you on Jukwaa ;D

As to the never-ending depth of these pockets of Kamwana & his pals, I have wondered the same thing. With all that cash flooding into the economy we would see the effects of inflation....if it were true. Sadly methinks the CORDashians are falling over themselves & believing their own tall tales to the point they are totally out of touch with reality. Just have a look at the first post in this thread & tell me whether that was drafted by a sober individual or someone smoking some substance similar to crack cocaine....

The judges will do what the judges do best....deliberate. As they are the cream of our community of "learned friends" let us allow them their space to do so. Rest assured whatever they serve to the people of KE as a ruling will be couched in a lot of legal gobbledygook that will keep us busy right here on Jukwaa....

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Mar 24, 2013 14:18:44 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Mar 24, 2013 13:24:25 GMT 3 Horth said:

Doesn't sound like CORD are as confident as you are:

The electoral commission has turned down a request by Cord affiliate parties to change the list of nominated MPs in order to accommodate its top leaders.

The Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) has written back to the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), Wiper Democratic Movement and Ford Kenya explaining that the lists of nominated MPs and senators could not be altered after the closure date.

The three parties had jointly written to the IEBC on March 15 requesting that they be allowed to re-open and “rectify” their lists of nominees to Parliament, Senate and county assemblies.

More: Cord’s push to nominate new MPs fails

Horth,

I am at a loss as to what this have to do with confidence; Cord is merely trying to rectify its list of nominees and IEBC miffed by the fact Cord caught them with their pants down is trying to frustrate them as some form of payback but they don't have the last say in this so expect a petition to this effect soon.

It's, of course, laughable for anyone to suggest that Cord is trying to amend the list to accommodate Raila and Musyoka in the event the Supreme Court doesn't go their way.

The correct legal position is no party can add to the list of nominees submitted before the elections as required by law but there is nothing in the law that says they cannot reorder the list of the names submitted.

Nothing so expect either IEBC to reconsider upon wiser counsel or the court will authoritatively speak to that in due time.

Omwenga, why are you at a loss? It's right here in black & white (with a bit of red for emphasis):

"The move could have opened the window for the possible nomination of top ODM, Wiper and Ford Kenya leaders such as Prime Minister Raila Odinga and Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka should the Supreme Court case they have filed against the declaration of Uhuru Kenyatta as the presidential election winner fail. But the coalition was quick to say that their move was not aimed at cushioning the two leaders."



All of a sudden the overwhelming case isn't as slam dunk as it appeared to be, eh? No worries. Your ability to spin is legendary but I'm afraid you are now in a serious tailspin if you expect anyone to take your word for it.....

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Mar 24, 2013 15:03:08 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Mar 24, 2013 6:35:40 GMT 3 b6k said:

. Omwenga (& the CORDashians amongst us), the sooner you come to the realization that you have been served a dish called fait accompli from jubilant Jubilee's can of whoop a$$, the sooner you will be able to accept your fate & move on. As another blogger stated in another thread, rather than keep trying the same thing over & over again (Raila will win this thing in round one of the elections; oh, we have been rigged out!; let Agwambo have another stab at this thing) when clearly ending up with the same miserable results time & time again, it is time for ODM CORD to look itself in the mirror & face the fact that Raila will never be president of KE & groom a new leader to take over from him. Trying to take down the rheumy eyed UK (whatever happened to that old nickname for Kamwana given to him by ODMers ;D) will lead to yet another defeat at the polls, especially since CORD has mastered the art of insulting its erstwhile partners as can be seen clearly in this thread (ati you do not need the Kalenjin vote!). Pure marlakey!

b6k

When people like Omwenga fly around in choppers in the tow of Raila's coat-tails, and never blog about these other primary issues of importance to Wanjiku, nor well-known MOUs of corruption between ODM luminaries and PNU moguls, do you see why we call them Railamaniacs with impunity. Their silence is a necessary oath of allegiance, otherwise they would be thrown under the mbas, sorry, chopper, and they wouldn't dare risk that!

So Omwenga can blog, blog after blog blasting away at Uhuruto at full throttle, hysterically calling all non believers Raila haters, but there he is hoarding information which, in the public interest, would be very enlightening to the conduct of the campaigns, and deeper appreciation of the candidates.

May be in his memoirs then. No need suiciding himself now. everywhere is Pyongyang, even CORD flights! ;D

Omwenga, direct question. Have you ever heard of any oil scam story [it is old, you could have forgotten, seeing that mega-scams have been the daily diet of the GCG] and her key movers in both courts? Have you ever asked your boss man to man if there is something you need to know? anything, even Wetangula and Turkana oil blocks?

Corruption in ODM is a no go area for your blogs. It is only you who does not know. We, we even know why!

Why did you people fail to drill Raila, that in a one on one, he can not call Uhuru Kenyatta a land thief and get away with it. Now you saw on national TV debate, how UK killed him and that propaganda line. Which cases do I have in court?

NB: You say, Omwenga, that CORD can make the case in Kalenjin land that they will sort out the land issue? Are you out of your mind? Don't you have any Kalenjin friends? Haven't they told you: Orengo was 5 years long the minister. List what he did. Go play with children elsewhere, Arap Mibei, may be the Bakamba are fools, we here are not blind.

Omwenga, in the past three weeks some of us have been researching how come Ruto swept Kalenjin to the last man. Ask the people, they will tell you if you have a relationship of honesty with them.

But you come in a chopper, they wear masks too. Tell you what you wanna hear. All in the name of the game of politics.

Why wasn't the turn-out in Luo Nyanza as high as Mount Kenya? You people rigged the primaries, abused the peoples trust, then took their loyalty for granted. 10-15% said: Ka en mana kama to kara obedi, thoo. [If this is the so-called our government, leave me out of it.

Actually there was a limited boycott in Luoland. Call it sabotage. Not much, but enough to make a decisive difference. Just like you CAN NOT TAKE RIGGING FROM THE IEBC, some folk in Luoland wouldn't forgive a rigging from even Raila.

A bit of the New Kenya. President elect Uhuru too is in line to make her acquaintance soon!

Jakaswanga, to borrow from Podp's favored red highlights, those are the poignant points that Omwenga will never address directly. Await the "family affair" line of argument on the last ones ;D ;D ;D

[b6k]

Mar 24, 2013 16:14:39 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

About this time last year, a colleague of mine and I were in very advanced stages of importing 3 choppers to be leased in Kenya during the elections and afterwards make them available for general lease as well as for our business needs.

We abandoned the idea when we discovered there were already 27 choppers in the country and therefore the market was saturated for this to make sense from a business stand-point.

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

When I say 24/7 I know choppers cannot fly after 6:00pm but you get my point.

I say all this because I have never seen the relevance of all of these personal matters relative to what we discuss or debate here and to also edify you that if you think my blogging is influenced by riding in choppers, then you have a learn about who I am and what motivates me to do what I do, which you can easily find on my blog in blogs such as The Criteria Everyone Should Use In Deciding Who To Vote For and Why I Blog

Omwenga, you really have a knack of contradicting yourself. You paste too much personal information about yourself & your business(es) & then get all riled up when someone calls you on it. Heeeloooo! This is the internet, oyominto. To paraphrase from the Miranda rights which you should be well acquainted with, anything you write about yourself can & will be used against you on the court of Jukwaa....

[b6k]

Mar 24, 2013 17:47:00 GMT 3 jakaswanga said:

Omwenga Ori, Mind my hangover!

Otuono-Maro is a hidden pocket which allows a son in-law to tell the mother inlaw he has drained all his pockets, while actually hiding a savings account near his balls!

Mar 24, 2013 16:14:39 GMT 3 Omwenga said:

Ori Jakaswanga,

About this time last year, a colleague of mine and I were in very advanced stages of importing 3 choppers to be leased in Kenya during the elections and after wards make them available for general lease as well as for our business needs.

We abandoned the idea when we discovered there were already 27 choppers in the country and therefore the market was saturated for this to make sense from a business stand-point.

When the dust settles, we are bringing in one chopper to cater for our business needs and that will be at my disposal to use 24/7 meaning, I would have to make a tough choice whether to fly in my own chopper or catch a ride with Jakom, the next PORK.

That would be well after you had ridden around in Jakom's chopper. You see when you have it in your CV that you used to ride around in the President's chopper, that is proximity to power, and it is business credit that can be cashed. In commercial terms we say you have upped your stocks.

When a billionaire has been invited to a private dinner of guests with the POTUS or PM of the Unite Kingdom, you will be surprised at the expression which is used: he got key that opens doors. In such meetings, the head of for instance EXXON MOBIL, the biggest Oil Gigant in the world, gets assurances that, should Angola make moves to buy them out and have the Chinese inherit their off-shore well, the USA and God will the tell the Angolans that is a red line.

so riding in the PM's chopper does not mean you are too poor to afford a Jumbo Jet. No, it simply defines and clarifies a relationship, and the terms.

O yes I do. You want that limitation erased. It curtails business. You know in Kenya, from a song called RIZIKI by Ongoro and Awillo: ata maindi choma sasa mwauza usiku jameni! So why have the choppers fly only with daylight! absolutely primitive! 24 hrs economy we want, with flights and all!


You do not see the relevance of men who ride one candidate's chopper called to task when they permanently write against the other candidate? I am asking then if you business interests coincide with a certain candidate, and your blogging too, in so far as it trashes the other side without repose, is a business venture!


Nothing more to add on a phenomenon that bleeds the country 30% of her GDP per year! And Raila has been co-ordinating ministries and supervising them, so to speak. I Will ask. What is the explanation he so successfully supervised such massive corruption! He wins a gold medal for sleeping on the job, unless ....
By not interrogating obvious discrepancies in public persona and actual practice, while favouritely if not fervently blogging on the subject, that is already the hoarding. Avoiding a question in fear of possible answers and further raised questions.
I will buy the book if i am still alive --waragi does things to a man's life expectancy.-- and I wont download it for free like you adviced on Miguna's books! --Miguna should sue you for that!

For a certain clas of businessmen, at a certain level. One must show colour. That is why CITIZEN became CORD, and now Macharia is reported to have fainted when UK won.

NB: UK is planning to build a media empire like Berlusconi of Italia. He would have to swallow Macharia's empire or buy him out forcedly. Macharia was running for poltical protection from CORD.

Stakes, Omwenga, stakes. And their heights.


No worries, that is why independent opinion and thinking come at such a high premium. To analyse and order the snippets of information that are only dropped by folks like you for propaganda purposes.
You can run, but you wont hide.

Other reasons can simply be because you are partners in crime. Politics is a dirty game. And he uses your blog somehow.


I would be more interested in any irregularities, to tie up with the other irregularities involving one of the prospectors with Uganda's M7 --now laid to rest I think , and how all this plays in the new Turkana county, and whether there is a business plan that detours us off the path of Nigeria and Chad, the other oil Moguls of Afrika.
You catch my interest. One of the companies has been handing out shares for free to 'connected people'!
When you know all there is to know about Turkana oil, and you blog, and you shut up about such info, why should I not think you are hoarding for wrong reasons?

Some are elementary blunders that reveal an amateuristic approach. Lack of preparation, if not outright stupidity. And one can loose an election that way.

That is a level of incompetence, non performance which Orengo should interrogated for. Why did he not confront Kibaki? where is the evidence Kibaki always adamantly refused? This is passing the buck Omwenga. And what did Raila do when Orengo reported Baba Jimmy kept on kicking his butt?

Wrangling within ODM is not a problem. Rigging blatantly the primaries, was the crime that stuck in the throat of folks!



In the bigger scheme of things too, a leading president who rigs elections for his cronies in his home turf, could do the same nationally when he becomes the president. Bigger scheme is a knife that cuts both ways.

"President-elect" Uhuru will soon be ex-"president elect."

Yes, 5 years is a short time. time does fly. State House is a morgue where PORK is temporarily stationed, on his way to political burial. Look at Kibaki and Raila now, only yesterday they were smiling with Koffi Annan and Kikwete, launching the GCG. Now, now they are fighting hard to have a cameraman notice them. Power, now you have it, now you don't.
But do we ever learn??
We are humans. we need to be burned to know fire is for real.

Jakaswanga, go easy on the guy. That is too much reality to handle in one serving. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kamale, I believe you coined the phrase lift seekers. Did you mean those who seek lifts in limos & choppers or those who have the goal of lifting themselves from their current station by hook or by crook?

PS: ati SK Macharia fainted?!! ;D