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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jul 19, 2013 18:57:00 GMT 3
With Jnr on the ballot, CORD/WIPER finally dances to the Jubilee tune in Makueni. www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2013/07/wiper-settles-on-kethis-brother-mutula-jr/ Talk of boneheaded politicians, with all the years Kalonzo Musyoka has had in Kenyan politics, I wonder how he gets played so easily. To make matters worse, he is now in cahoots with another very poor strategist and perennial looser, Raila Odinga. It can only get worse for these two. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ |
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Post by mwalimumkuu on Jul 19, 2013 19:12:46 GMT 3
Not quite. Whereas I agree that Justice Lenaola is one of the many fantastic justices we have (I hope not simply because he is yet to preside over a petition involving CORD and ruled against them), I think by recusing himself from this case, the good justice acted in good faith and not what you are imaging. Being a friend of Kethi (his own words), and having followed the proceedings at the IEBC tribunal, he knows the woman's goose is as good as cooked, and never wanted to sit on a bench that will confirm the same to the clueless Kethi on Friday. You see Omwenga, Kethi at this juncture needs sympathy and prayers, many of her friends and family do not understand how she came to where she is now and whether she understands where she is headed. It is a pity my brother, what the CORD octogenarians have done to this young lad. ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ Eti numba kubwa Mwalimumkuu? Hehehehe. I just saw that if I go by my late uncle Senior Chief Mathayo Ratemo and his 10 wives, it's the small houses that had the last laugh with his wealth and glory days, not nyumba kubwa (read the dominant house). But I digress. I have said this elsewhere but I cut and paste here because it's apt to do so: If there is one judge in Kenya whose integrity is unassailable, it's Justice Lenaola... As I said, I am and let's all give the panel the benefit of doubt but condemn them only if necessary. I have previously said I can see this case being ruled on either way--the key is how or why. I for one look to the legal analysis for the answer. If it's a decision based on legally sound reasons, then you'll see me agreeing with it; if it's one based on none or is otherwise intellectually shallow as the one we got from the Supreme Court, then you'll see me point that out. It therefore doesn't follow that I'll condemn a decision or court merely because a decision is against Raila or Cord as than would be shallow and naive neither of which I am as you would agree. Hehee!! Omwenga, you just saw what has happened in Makueni, Nduku and her house were never considered for the inheritence. So your uncle Mathayo is what Achebe calls an Osu. Anyways, the verdict is now now here with us, you bet it went the same way I thought Justice Lenaola had feared. Kethi is now facing some jail term if some people decide to follow this matter through. Your take? ~~ Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa ~~ |
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Post by jakaswanga on Jul 19, 2013 20:12:22 GMT 3
Poor Girl has been done in by her political naivety. It is a brutal first lesson, like initiation into sex by method of rape. If she got character --brains alone wont be enough for this-- then she has learnt her lessons from the best teacher: reality. She will graduate ace honours. Become tougher, more tactical, more ruthless and distrustful of 'quickies' If she aint got character, then she will wilt into trauma, and wither in the pathology thereof. |
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Post by mank on Jul 20, 2013 3:16:12 GMT 3
The Kethi Kilonzo fiasco has all the hallmarks of amateur theft or murder that leaves a smoking gun in its wake.However much we sugarcoat it the facts are clear.I slip was stolen,filled by a conman who laughed all the way to the bank at the gullibility of the purchasers of the slip.An innocent bright young lawyer was then handed the stolen loot and told that everything had been taken care of.Innocent because she didnt do any due diligence to confirm that all the leads had been covered. The mandarins who should have been in court were there on the sidelines grinning like cheshirecats not our very own venerable Cheshirecat!Iam saying gullibility because the purchasers never bothered to ensure that all trails had been covered.Now tommorow we have a verdict that can only exonerate Kethi on a technicality otherwise even my grandmother is able to give a verdict on this. My frustration with the political honchos who could not do a decent job of such simplicity that did not require so much wasted energy and resources.Makueni was for Wiper's taking even if they nominated a goat,but my coalition had to go for working hard instead of smart. Bluntly honest! I have tiptoed toward this point a while. |
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Post by mank on Jul 20, 2013 3:30:43 GMT 3
I don't know Justice Lenaola from Justice Mutunga. But it was here on Jukwaa that I was first introduced to the solomonic qualities of Justice Mutunga. Yet, if I still have to rely on Jukwaa for the grading of justices, those qualities are no more for Justice Mutunga. He was stripped of that prestige quite a while back. Now in his place brother Omwenga is making a case for Lenaola. Incidentally, in my view, what distinguishes the two justices is that J. Lenaola now stands where Justice Mutunga was when the latter was the "promised one." Mwalimumkuu @nyumbakubwa said it well, but I will repeat - he's yet to preside over a case involving (and rule against) CORD. So I take Omwenga's exaltation of the promise in Justice Lenaola with caution. All I am saying, brother Omwenga, is that it is puzzling, the world view that you and other CORD hardliners project. It is a world view in which people (and institutions) are great when they (or their deeds) are in CORD's favor, and lower then the envelop (in ol' Ntimama's lingo) otherwise. It's an alarming world view. Just think about people like Kalonzo Musyoka. If you look through threads on Jukwaa you might think that we once had one person by that name, very different from the one we have now. He used to be a pathetic "kolooza" and "pitia kati kati" then. He's since gone through some form of cleansing - that which being on CORD's good book seems to be. He's the same Kalonzo. I need not repeat the illustration with Justice Mutunga. I hope you've seen my response to Mwalimumkuu as it responds to your fundamental charge here, which is wrong that our view is that institutions are great if they favor Cord; far from it. All we ask, is that they follow the law, not scuttle it when it's convenient or against individual interests in violation of their oath of office. Brother Omwenga, I sure have seen your response to Mwalimumkuu (@ Nyumbakubwa). I would applaud you for asking that institutions (and persons) "...follow the law, not scuttle it when it's convenient or against individual interests ...", but it is on record even from you, that even Raila himself has praised certain organs governance as excellent only to change opinion the moment those organs came out with a decision that was in his favor. So I hope you see my point, it is that to the corded brethren "all are angels that stand with us," but once they don't, then their entire profiles are revised. |
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Post by omundustrong on Jul 20, 2013 6:15:10 GMT 3
Mank,on this we all know they were got pants down, and no sugar-coating can save them from the truth.The only saving grace for a politician is that he/she can speak from both sides of his/her beak.
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Post by mank on Jul 20, 2013 6:40:10 GMT 3
Poor Girl has been done in by her political naivety. It is a brutal first lesson, like initiation into sex by method of rape. If she got character --brains alone wont be enough for this-- then she has learnt her lessons from the best teacher: reality. She will graduate ace honours. Become tougher, more tactical, more ruthless and distrustful of 'quickies' If she aint got character, then she will wilt into trauma, and wither in the pathology thereof. May I say I saw it coming? I just didn't expect it to happen this fast, but seeing how naively she was jumping into the deep end, I felt she would soon find that some of them are sharks ... not dolphins! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 3:35:24 GMT 3
Ok. Now Jubilie is after Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. Haven't they confidence that they are so fantastic that the electorate at Makueni will usher their person in without a problem? Now Mutahi's tyranny of numbers seems to be scaring the shit out of them. Let the tyranny of numbers rule. That is to say that CORD will whop Jubilie's ass fair and square and this time Hassan and his crew will not be in any position to fudge numbers for them. Or maybe after ramadan he can lie to the entire country. That was the freudian slip of the decade. Hassan please don't ever eat again, it may aid you in being honest. Will ramadan be done by elections @ Makueni? New twist as Mutula Jnr’s rivals threaten court actionwww.nation.co.ke/Counties/New-hurdle-for-Mutula-Jnr/-/1107872/1921472/-/15e95n8z/-/index.htmlMutula's kids look so gorgeous. Who wants to put the picture up for me? mank, you wanna? The Mutula factor in Coalition for reform and democracy’s unfolding political landscapewww.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000088919&story_title=the-mutula-factor-in-cord-s-unfolding-political-landscape |
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Post by mank on Jul 22, 2013 6:12:51 GMT 3
There's something to that request. It sounds queer. |
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 3, 2013 22:39:28 GMT 3
Dear Kethi, The fact that you are being "coerced" to vie for this seat implies that your conscience is foggy as to whether this is the right thing to do. To give in to such pressure is tantamount to committing a fraud
on the people of Makueni county. This will be against the principles you stood for in court that day you ordered Mdomo Ngatia to sit down at the Supreme Court and Kenyans thought that was brilliant. Kenyans responded to your firmness, they thought you are principled, they thought you were your own woman, they adored you. Nobody cared whether you were the daughter of a former Minister or Senator- they connected with you and thought you represented their interests. In conclusion, I hope you will follow your deeper conscience and do the right thing and stand by your principles. Let this position be filled competitively and back the winning dog. Have great week, Senti 5 Patriotism, Everytime I read something of the on-going Kethi saga, I remember your haunting words. Sorry to bother you, but I am curious of what you felt when you were opening this thread. There is an element of prophetic chill I find very gripping. As I write, I have just read that Kethi will be arraigned in court ---lying under oath to I do not know who, giving false information to I do not know who, conniving to defraud I do not know who, being in possession of a stolen document --the Kibaki specific form. And one of the IEBC officials is now ready to testify that he gave her the certificate in the full knowledge that she was not a registered voter, but was scared the crowd with her would tear him to pieces if he objected. I imagine that is intimidating an officer to commit an offece --presenting a false document! If it is true Kethi was not a registered voter, nor voted in the place she said, then we sure will need a good explanation of how she convinced herself she could get away with it, knowing Uhuruto would be digging like possessed. But most importantly: why she ignored those misgivings you voice above! G0d@mit! |
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Post by OtishOtish on Aug 4, 2013 1:14:29 GMT 3
Red Corner: Clever CORD operatives who can even dream up an a ready-to-go assassination plot as one drives to a funeral.
Blue Corner: Clever Jubilee operatives who have the IEBC, CID, NSIS, etc. in their pockets.
With so much cleverness going around, one should try not to be in the middle.
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Post by nowayhaha on Aug 4, 2013 14:32:31 GMT 3
Dear Kethi, First accept my belated condolences on the demise of your Dad. Although I was never a fan, I salute him for being on the right side of history before his sudden death. I have read in the press and on various blogs that you are under a lot of pressure to inherit the makueni county senatorial seat, formerly held by your Father. According to the family spokesperson one Jere Muthembwa,your family has settled on you to carry the mantle and "finish" the projects your father started as the Makueni county senator. When he started these projects or why someone else cannot finish them is a mystery to me. The fact that you are being "coerced" to vie for this seat implies that your conscience is foggy as to whether this is the right thing to do. To give in to such pressure is tantamount to committing a fraud on the people of Makueni county. This will be against the principles you stood for in court that day you ordered Mdomo Ngatia to sit down at the Supreme Court and Kenyans thought that was brilliant. Kenyans responded to your firmness, they thought you are principled, they thought you were your own woman, they adored you. Nobody cared whether you were the daughter of a former Minister or Senator- they connected with you and thought you represented their interests. I don't want to be harsh on you or your family, neither am I suspected drug lord Mwau's blogger for hire. But there are three reasons why I will dissuade you from running for this office:- First, the fact that you are being pressured as reported in the media, indicates that your conscience tells you this is not the right thing to do. Your passion metrics to serve the people of Makueni is out of whack and it will be a disservice to the people of Kenya and specifically the Makueni residents to pretend to represent them as their senator. To do so in my opinion will be to serve the interest of Muthama, wiper and really be a pawn on the chess board of the ikullu power barons. Secondly, the era of political office inheritance is over. It went with the Moi Kleptocracy. Kenyans are a lot wiser and clever now to fall for half backed and not so well thought out political projects. It is up to you if you want to be a Muthama project and be beholden to some deadwood for political survival. I believe you have a unique opportunity to be your own person and chart your own political or private path. Unlike Ahmed Nassir who think of you and river road in the same sentence, I think you in a journey for a greater things and the sure way to throw it to the PIGS is to give in to the pressure to run for the Makueni county senate seat. It will be sad if you are reduced to MPIG irrelevance and demanding deep massages from the male members for equality's sake just because some hustlers are having many happy endings. Finally and more fundamentally, by giving in to the "pressure", you will be locking out people who are well qualified to run for this office but out of the respect to your culture, father and your family, they opt not to run because a family decision has been reached and to run for them, will be disrespectful to the family and your late father. This again, will negatively affect the people of Makueni and Kenya in general. In conclusion, I hope you will follow your deeper conscience and do the right thing and stand by your principles. Let this position be filled competitively and back the winning dog. Have great week, Senti 5 Kethi being dragged into the Makueni by elections was a ploy to finish her politically. Kethi was to become the new Charity Ngilu in 2017 and thus her and Alfred Mutua would have taken the Political Mantle of lower eastern from Kalonzo and Ngilu. For the associates of Kalonzo (the Double M's- Muthama and Musila) to remain relevant politically and economic wise in-future they had to devise a scheme . It was evident from the word go that she was not a registered voter and thus the reason the step-mother hinted that she might run for the seat as she was cocksure Kethi would not run for the seat.Kethi made the fundamental mistake and decided to give in to pressure and presented forged documents to run for the Makueni senate as a result locking herself out in running for any future post due to electoral malpractice. The double M's achieved their goals one by galvanizing the Lower Eastern vote due voter sympathy as it seems(how the Makueni senate by elections was handled) the lower eastern electorate was being targeted , two the lower eastern electorate were starting to feel that they had been misled to join CORD and thus for the first time since independence they had missed out of the government and the blame squarely lay on Muthama and Musila and thus were ready to abandon the political ship of the double M's and chart a new path with new leaders but the double M's managed to re-instate the perception that the mistake of moving to CORD never cost them Mar 04 win but it was bungled by IEBC and the Courts.Three they have ensured that Kethi will never run for any seat thus cant become the political Kingpin of Lower eastern and thus the status quo remains where 'their man' is still the political Kingpin and they continue calling the shots of lower eastern politics. What the double M's are forgetting is that Kalonzo's political career is on a deathbed and as long as there are few by elections(especially in Lower Eastern ) and he remains out of National assembly and the senate with time he will become irrelevant and the Lower eastern constituency will get a new political Kingpin refer to the political careers of Paul Ngei and Mulu Mutisya. If the whole Kethi saga is handled in a transparent and fair manner then this will be the beginning of an end to the Double M's political hold of the Lower eastern politics |
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 29, 2013 20:14:59 GMT 3
So Kethi was finally unveiled - reminds me of lifting the veil. Finally Kenyans can see whose project she really is. Turns out the girl is not even a registered voter (Although I really hope this is TNA propaganda)- how tragic can it get. Is this the reason she was reluctant to contest? If this is true, does this validate Mutahi Ngunyi's theory of tyranny of numbers (I expect epithets and cow dung)that ODMers and CORDesians were just all talk but never walked the walk by registering all and sundry? that Otieno Kajuang slept on the job by delivering ID cards in Kiambu instead of Migingo? (why was this part of Kenya disenfranchised?) Kenya is littered with reluctant politicians. People who had big responsibilities handed to them on silver platters against their wishes in some cases and they really didn't know what to do with the power and the glory that came with the positions. For them, these were opportunities to continue the eating culture perpetrated by their fathers/Elite. Few examples come to mind. Jakaswanga's homie, Tom Mboya head hunted Mwai Kibaki from Makerere to come run Kanu against Kibakis wish. The man turned out to be the worst president Kenya had- bringing the country to the brink of a civil war in 2007. When Musalia's father passed away, the Madman was plucked from class (slight exaggeration but close) at the UON and handed the Ministry of finance. As all Kenyans know Serious financial scandals both before and during his term brought Kenya to the brink of a financial catastrophe. Moi head hunted Saitoti from a math class at UON - leading to decades of luos naming their children Goldenberg. George Khaniri, and the list goes on and on. When people are put in leadership positions with significant policy implications without really going to the grassroots to understand what the real issues are - they will hold those positions in spite of the people they are supposed to represent and will have very little if any contact with their constituents. I have no issues with Kethi running for senator, but she is lost all my respect and proved once again that she is just a puppet and she will do anything the old retirees in CORD will demand of her. She is not her own woman. Kathure wa Kebaara- please do not quote or answer me I just blocked you (OO could we have that button -there are two individuals I dont mind blocking) Senti 5 , Sorry to be like I am stalking you on this one. But you kno this is a running tragedy for me --I can not bear to say soap. I was captivated by Kethi'sw performance during her representation of Corg. It is for this reason that I feel so deeply for her lack of judgement and self-preservation instincts, that allowed her to append her name to this fraud. Tobiko --the DPP, has now decided to officially prosecute her on a related 'offence': www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092219&story_title=tobiko-directs-kethi-be-charged-over-voter-registration-saga --- b6k, 1. can she still practice law while an accused? And 2. if found guilty, even if pending an appeal, will she be deregistered from the list of licensed practicing attorneys? |
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Post by patriotism101 on Aug 30, 2013 21:47:31 GMT 3
Red Corner: Clever CORD operatives who can even dream up an a ready-to-go assassination plot as one drives to a funeral. Blue Corner: Clever Jubilee operatives who have the IEBC, CID, NSIS, etc. in their pockets. With so much cleverness going around, one should try not to be in the middle. Otis, I don't do any corners or cleverness - some things are plain obvious. Senti 5 |
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Post by patriotism101 on Aug 30, 2013 22:32:06 GMT 3
Patriotism, Sorry to be like I am stalking you on this one. But you kno this is a running tragedy for me --I can not bear to say soap. I was captivated by Kethi'sw performance during her representation of Corg. It is for this reason that I feel so deeply for her lack of judgement and self-preservation instincts, that allowed her to append her name to this fraud. Tobiko --the DPP, has now decided to officially prosecute her on a related 'offence': www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092219&story_title=tobiko-directs-kethi-be-charged-over-voter-registration-saga --- b6k, 1. can she still practice law while an accused? And 2. if found guilty, even if pending an appeal, will she be deregistered from the list of licensed practicing attorneys? Jakaswanga, I don't feel stalked - but now that you brought it up- are you? Kethi's case is a tragedy not just for her but for many Kenyans both young and old who saw some glimmer of hope in her. The hyenas, some right here on jukwaa, who shouted at the top of their voices their support for the poor lady have scatterd. But anyone thinking she will spend a day in jail is in for a big surprise. Tobiko's case is just a show. There will be no boots on the ground, it will not be open ended but will be limited to borrow Obamas fumbling with Assad (Bomb the S*B and move on - don't describe for him what your intentions are - he already knows he can sit in an survive the "limited" strikes - where is Bush?) . Remember Kethi was/is moi's lawyer and Rais mshukiwa is Moi's project/puppet. Connect the dots. Already strings are being pulled- arrangements will be made for Kethi to go kiss the Kings (Kemboi's - what does he smoke?)feet, she will be welcomed back home and all shall be well. Essentially her brother Mtulla Kilonzo Jnr will have been neutered. Makueni people are the losers. So jakaswanga on a light note - listening to my grand dad narrate how he and his friends stalked my grand mum (she was probably 13- purely speculative but based on the old mans description of her boobs), blindfolded her, put her in one of those black hawk helicopters delivered her to Guantanamo (how else do you describe my great grand dad's homestead in the 30's?) and was declared married when her family came looking for her- you will understand my excitement with your concerns that you could be stalking me- sex change is not in my ttd list, not in this life - may be in my fifth life. Senti 5 |
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Post by b6k on Aug 31, 2013 7:15:08 GMT 3
--- b6k, 1. can she still practice law while an accused? And 2. if found guilty, even if pending an appeal, will she be deregistered from the list of licensed practicing attorneys? , if I were you I would direct those questions to a learned friend on this forum such as Sadik or the curiously silent Omwenga. In my personal view I believe the naïve young lady should already be disbarred & breaking rocks in the hot sun at Kodiaga for her fraudulent actions... |
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Post by jakaswanga on Aug 31, 2013 21:02:47 GMT 3
--- b6k, 1. can she still practice law while an accused? And 2. if found guilty, even if pending an appeal, will she be deregistered from the list of licensed practicing attorneys? , if I were you I would direct those questions to a learned friend on this forum such as Sadik or the curiously silent Omwenga. In my personal view I believe the naïve young lady should already be disbarred & breaking rocks in the hot sun at Kodiaga for her fraudulent actions... B6k, Let me then re-direct immediately ---Sadik, Omwenga, any help, counsels? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 18:02:34 GMT 3
First we rig the damn elections, then we make sure the judiciary rules in our favor. After that, first order of business, we "take care" of our enemies, top on that list, Mutula Kilonzo. When we're done that, we'll proceed to torment his children all the while juggling our little "personal problems" @ the ICC and "seamlessly" lording it over 40 million Kenyans. We are the BOSS! Well, we'll just have to see about that. Lawyer Kethi Kilonzo accuses DPP of frustrating efforts to defend herself Updated Monday, November 18th 2013 By Wilfred Ayaga NAIROBI, KENYA: Lawyer Kethi Kilonzo has accused the Director of Public Prosecution of frustrating her efforts to defend herself in a case in which she is charged with forging a voter’s acknowledgement slip. Kethi has claimed that the DPP has failed to provide her with documents, including witness statements which she needs to launch her defence in the case. Through her lawyer, Fred Ojiambo Kethi argues that efforts to access the documents have proved futile. Ojimbo said the defence team, through lawyer Julie Soweto had placed numerous requests for the documents, which have not been responded to. “Under the circumstances, I can only surmise that the reason for the delay must be to dislocate the defence and make it difficult and impossible to mount a credible defence,” Ojiambo told Chief Magistrate Kiarie Waweru. Kethi is charged with stealing an IEBC acknowledgement slip serial number 0002058624 between November 19, 2012 and June 27 this year valued at Sh5 belonging to the electoral body. She faces another charge of handling stolen property. She is charged alongside Godfrey Ninito, an Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission employee. Ninito is accused of neglecting to keep in safe custody voter acknowledgement slip booklet serial numbers 041173 a duty which he was dutifully bound to perform as the Manager Electoral Planning and Logistics at the IEBC headquarters, During Monday’s proceedings, Kethi accused the prosecution of disobeying a court order issued on in which it had been ordered to provide the documents to her defence team. Ojiambo told the court that the delay in providing her with the documents was hurting her client. “My client is an advocate of the High court and the allegations against her are detrimental to her work. The prosecutor, Jacob Ondari however defended the office of the DPP from the allegations claiming that the office of the DPP had on 11 October written to Kethi’s defence team asking them to collect the documents from the Investigating officer. He claimed that they had provided most of the documents apart from two witness statements. He also said that some of the documents requested by Kethi were not in the hands of the DPP, but in the custody of IEBC. Kethi’s lawyer accused the prosecution of intending to proceed with the case before obeying the order to provide the defence with all the requested documents. “It is the height of cheek to say that they want to proceed with the case when they have cynically violated a court order,” Ojiambo told the court. The prosecution has lined up thirty witnesses in the case. www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000098043&story_title=kethi-accuses-dpp-of-frustrating-efforts-to-defend-herselfwww.the-star.co.ke/news/article-144094/kethis-case-adjourned-march-17
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