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Post by Luol Deng on Oct 2, 2014 18:06:46 GMT 3
Wambui Mwangi surfaces again, this time with a guilt trip. From what I am gathering thus far is that she has an axe to grind with Tony, but that is none of my business. The latest info indicates that Tony is yet to be summoned, whether it is because the police are stonewalling or whether the case is inherently weak I don't know. Justice must be served in this case, but whether it will be seen to be served is another matter altogether.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 6:25:22 GMT 3
By Binyavanga WainainaDrunk, sober, memory or no memory. Wild, Poetic, sarcastic. Even Loving. Even Charming. A mentor to many. One of our biggest talents. Tony Ontita. Poet stands accused of something I take very seriously. Kept my opinion to myself much of yesterday. The script is descending into the lowest common denominator - to attempt to create an online hysteria to demean, slander and name mess the VICTIM here. Shailja Patel. Poet. And others. Yesterday, through an intermediary, I appealed to Tony Ontita to take the accusation of sexual assault seriously and seek remedy from Shailja, and the community he desecrated, especially if he did not remember the incident (which has been witnessed by several.) As am given to understand, all of Sunday, Tony had an opportunity to seek redress and the conversation was kept to a closed writers group.Today. This www.kahawatungu.com/.../feminists-lynch.../written by a coward anonymous blogger, and forwarded on facebook by Tony Ontita this morning. This makes it clear to me that enough is enough. All those who have given testimony are all people whose opinions and integrity I deeply respect. I was not present. If it is as I understand it that Tony Mochama went to a fellow writers home, to attend a meeting of poets and sexually assaulted one of them, I want to make clear that such behaviour is to me worse than merely ‘criminal’. As a representative of PEN Kenya you have a responsibility to look out for the well-being of ALL writers. If the accusations are true, which I believe they are, you have violated the trust of many in our community of writers and artists. It is a trust I take very seriously. No woman, no person should ever have to deal with this kind of behaviour in any situation. It is against all I stand for as a writer. www.ghafla.co.ke/news/tv/item/24415-you-are-guilty-of-sexual-assault-binyavanga-lashes-out-at-smitta-smitten
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 7:54:03 GMT 3
The vast majority of you, have done nothing but offer-up copious amounts of MANSPLAINING.
which is;to delighting in condescending, inaccurate explanations delivered with rock solid confidence of rightness and that slimy certainty that of course he is right, because he is the man in this conversation Even though he knew she had an advanced degree in neuroscience, he felt the need to mansplain "there are molecules in the brain called neurotransmitters.
in other words;To explain in a patronizing manner, assuming total ignorance on the part of those listening. The mansplainer is often shocked and hurt when their mansplanation is not taken as absolute fact, criticized or even rejected altogether. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MansplainThe Essay That Launched the Term "Mansplaining"
Rebecca Solnit's 'Men Explain Things to Me' explains this international scourge
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Post by b6k on Oct 3, 2014 8:23:58 GMT 3
Kathure, how do you mansplain this? Tony Mochama’s live on KTN's "Morning Express" show having taken a break after Shailja's allegations came out. This is a segment he appears on every Friday morning so it's clear the Standard Media Group "has his back" after doing whatever investigations in the background while he was off air for the last week or two.
He explained to Sophia Wanuna & the other co-host that the allegations of sexual impropriety are false and motivated by a vendetta from Shailja who is "irrelevant" in the Kenyan writers scene and Wambui, a vindictive activist. His foreign supporters (all those organizations that financially support him) have also checked the allegations and once they saw the level of "malice" in attacks against him have also decided to continue supporting him.
In conclusion, he (& Wanuna) gave Shailja an "open invitation" to go to KTN and give her side of the story on that platform. He then pulled out his wallet, which he admitted is a bit empty right now but it will be filled once the legal action he has taken against those who made false allegations about him goes through.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 8:37:53 GMT 3
Men Explain Things to MeIn her comic, scathing essay “Men Explain Things to Me,” Rebecca Solnit took on what often goes wrong in conversations between men and women. She wrote about men who wrongly assume they know things and wrongly assume women don’t, about why this arises, and how this aspect of the gender wars works, airing some of her own hilariously awful encounters. She ends on a serious note— because the ultimate problem is the silencing of women who have something to say, including those saying things like, “He’s trying to kill me!” This book features that now-classic essay with six perfect complements, including an examination of the great feminist writer Virginia Woolf ’s embrace of mystery, of not knowing, of doubt and ambiguity, a highly original inquiry into marriage equality, and a terrifying survey of the scope of contemporary violence against women. www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608463869/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1608463869&linkCode=as2&tag=thenewrep08-20&linkId=EG6BSTOEMD5XRUCI |
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Post by abdulmote on Oct 3, 2014 17:37:43 GMT 3
Kathuree,
With all due respect, that "vast majority of you" label does not help. I too have a problem in the manner "some" feminists tend to engender everything gender based into gender wars. That need not be the case. If the men are "mostly mansplaining", then the women can also be accused of the same; "womensplaining". eventually as creatures of two different sexes but belonging to the species, we will soon have to lose faith in what others are saying and a total communication break down may result.
Men will always think differently to women. Partly and significantly due to cultural conditioning, inherited from generations established centuries ago. Our gender difference also had its role to play. Nature sometimes does tend to force its way, whether some may like it or not.
But that is not to say men are and will always be right, or indeed women either.
Alright, our women have scores to settle with their opposite siblings. They have suffered a lot, over time. Some corrections need to be fought for, frequently. Somethings will never be corrected. At least not in our life time.
But we have to strive to be cautious. Without some sort of confidence in what we believe in, we can never be sure. Always uncertain, afraid to offend or appear "arrogant or condescending".
Eventually we will all be silent and the danger of harm even greater.
Let us debate, think and point each other where we err. But let us try to remain one and learn to respect each others' being.
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Post by abdulmote on Oct 3, 2014 17:50:23 GMT 3
If there is anyone I feel sorry for in all this saga, it is but Shailja. Not so much from the drunken "sexual assault" she may have suffered through the hands of the "mentally dead" Mochama, at the time. That must have been a tiny fraction of her miseries right now.
But rather through the barrage of 'good advice', endlessly flowing from her feminist friends and colleagues, all yearning for some men's blood. Scores to settle, gender wars to fight, and a point to be made.
In Kenya especially, there are certainly bigger wars to be fought on behalf of our sisters, mothers and daughters. Culturally, Kenyan men do need that divine salvation. Laws need to be changed and attention needs to be aroused. But when some opt to do that noble gesture, empathy must be had and undue pressure carefully measured that the the protectors may not end up further victimizing the protected.
Shailja must right now be desperate for some space to breath.
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Post by kamalet on Oct 3, 2014 18:39:53 GMT 3
If there is anyone I feel sorry for in all this saga, it is but Shailja. Not so much from the drunken "sexual assault" she may have suffered through the hands of the "mentally dead" Mochama, at the time. That must have been a tiny fraction of her miseries right now. But rather through the barrage of 'good advice', endlessly flowing from her feminist friends and colleagues, all yearning for some men's blood. Scores to settle, gender wars to fight, and a point to be made. In Kenya especially, there are certainly bigger wars to be fought on behalf of our sisters, mothers and daughters. Culturally, Kenyan men do need that divine salvation. Laws need to be changed and attention needs to be aroused. But when some opt to do that noble gesture, empathy must be had and undue pressure carefully measured that the the protectors may not end up further victimizing the protected. Shailja must right be desperate for some space to breath. Abdulmote How about hearing from both sides of the story before this condemnation....? Too much has been said by the activist community and very little from the "victim". Here is the story from the accusedfor your to try and make sense of the other side. Reading this, I start doubting the Shailja side of the story. |
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Post by b6k on Oct 3, 2014 18:48:55 GMT 3
Darn it Kamale you beat me to it. I was going to post the interview in full so that Tony's side is heard as well. What the heck, let me still post it here on Jukwaa for posterity: "CABU GAH(C.G): Nice to Meet You again,Tony. TONY: Nice to finally meet You too,Cabu....I saw Your article in Ghafla. That was so nice. CG: Thankyou. So,these sexual molestation accusations. Tell Me about it. TONY: At first I was shocked. Totally. But I have overcome them. And I am ready to hit back. Hard. CG: Hit back? Meaning?? TONY: Oh,I have already pressed charges against Wambui and Shalija. I am suing for more than 3 Million Kenya Shillings. CG: WOW..... TONY: Yes. Through the very astute hands of Lawyer Gillian of Sichangi and Co. Advocates,I have sued both Wambui and Shalija Patel for libel,slander and defamation. CG: And..... TONY: And for maligning my name and brand to Standard Group,My Employers and also PEN Kenya,My literary partners. I am suing for a 7-figure compensation. We are talking Millions here. CG: How did You learn about these accusations? TONY: Social Media. I opened my Facebook and my inbox was flooding. At first I thought My sister,who lives in Essex,England was DEAD!!! Everyone was inboxing Me! CG: And.... TONY; My heart sank. I didn't know what to say. How to say it. Or who to say it to. CG: Did You actually go to Wambui's house that night?? TONY: Yes,I did. And I sat next to my friend Steve Pattinton all night. And My good friend Wanjeri Nderu with whom I was at the Story Moja Festival. Never once did I get close to Miss Patel. Or even touch her!! Never!! CG: And... TONY: And we sat there till Morning..Just talking. And the room had around 12 People! 12 people!! No one whom saw Me actually molest Shalija! Its a room full of people! They should have seen me molest Shalija...atleast. Come On!! CG: What is the beef between You and Wambui and Shalija?? TONY: Well,We are in the same industry. The writing industry. And,many a times,on the many online platforms we have had chance to interact with,I have never ever agreed with Wambui. Atleast fundamentally. We've never shared the same World outlook. Or views. And because if constantly disagreeing with her opinions and school of thoughts, Wambui,who can be rather stubborn and opinionated has NEVER liked Me. She hates my guts. CG: And Shalija? TONY: Well...Shalija ,it dates back to 2007. We've never gotten along,ever!! She has always hated my articles,my outlook on life and my personality. She has carved out a carrier of constantly bringing me down...Attacking me verbally at different forums,calling me a drunk, discrediting my articles...Calling me a chauvinist,a misogynist. CG: Why does she do all these?? TONY: I DON'T KNOW. Cabu,I don't! I don't even bother with her life! She's a homosexual-rights' activist. She's an NGO-person. I don't know. Its insane. We don't ever get along. Sometimes back I met her at an event,I extended my hand to shake her hand...she ignored it and walked away! She walked away! Leaving my hand hanging! Man,she's hated me for Years. Its crazy bana. CG: Actually,Its STUPID!!! TONY: And some other Gay activist called Keguro. Who is now so strongly supporting Shalija. He also claims I actually did molest Shalija and yet he wasn't even at the house! What does he know??? What?? He claims to be a Justice Activist! Why apply selective Justice? Don't I deserve Justice too? Or what does Justice mean to him?? Accusing me before hearing my story, Is that Justice?? CG: NO TONY: Exactly! That's favoritism. And biasness. I am outraged! These activists will say or do anything to stay relevant. And to get donor funding. Totally nonsensical. CG: I call that BULLSHIT. And what exactly is Shalija and her conniving cahoots accusing You of? Exactly?? Did You rape her? Undress her? Grab her ass?? What EXACTLY are they saying You did?? TONY: NOTHING!!! Can You believe it! They won't say HOW or WHERE I touched her. Or molested her. They won't specify! They are just using one ambiguous word; SEXUAL MOLESTATION. CG: But they should describe exactly HOW You did it. And what You did! TONY: And yet they can't! They won't! Its all a stupid mind game! Just hiding behind a word 'sexual molestation'. Come On! I dare You to say WHAT I did! Say it! Describe it! I dare You!!! CG: Wow...People can be mean... TONY: People are MEAN,Cabu Gah. Am telling You...the evil people are not only the ISIS terror group fighting in Iraq. Or the Alshabaab. Real wicked people are out here. There is REAL wickedness in the World Cabu Gah! CG: I know...I know.... TONY: Someone once said,Twitter is like Monkeys with Machine guns....It can totally be misused. And abused. Imagine giving a Machine gun to a Monkey...that's how it feels to give social media to some people....reckless heartless people... CG: Has this incidence taught You a thing?? TONY: Yes...I have learnt that Not everybody wishes You well. And I have started getting closer to Jesus. And I am NOT even a religious person! I have started to very strongly identify with the tribulations of an innocent Jesus at the Cross,Cabu Gah. Even Uhuru Kenyatta,my wrongful accusations tell me very strongly that he could be absolutely innocent too Man.... SOLO(Smitta Friend): Something else Cabu Gah... Irrelevance is damaging! CG: Nice One Man! Tony,have You attempted to talk to any of these people?? TONY: NO,NEVER!! I have nothing to say to them!!! Nothing!! The ONLY time I will talk to them is in Court! CG: And now that they went to the Police...Have You been served any papers?? Any impending arrest?? TONY: Nothing! Absolutely NOTHING! No papers...No arrests have been made on Me...No summons,NOTHING! Nothing Man! I should be in police custody by now...And Yet I am NOT! How Now?? Real Sexual Molesters should be in Police custody by now! And Yet I am Not! CG: Man.... TONY: I have learnt that You can wake Up a Hero in the Morning and by Evening You are a Villain...A Devil... CG: Last Words.... TONY: Well...This assault on my brand has NOT shaken Me...Or broken Me down...I have acquired a heart of steel...And I am now more wiser than before...And more cautious of who I Love,Hug or Befriend... I wrap up with a huge BEAR HUG to Smitta,the Wordsmith. I totally empathize with him..And as I walk out of the Cafeteria with Him...My mind is racing fast and quick... His situation saddens me and opens My eyes to an evil World...A World where everything can go wrong. Faster than You thought. Everyone who knows Smitta Smitten,Including Queen of Media Caroline Mutoko said one thing: The Tony I know CANNOT sexually Molest a Woman! As I I walk to the gate,holding Tony's hand,I am MORE THAN CONVINCED that this Man...this Man...HE IS INNOCENT! I AM MORE THAN CONVINCED. Good Luck,Pal. Good Luck....twas a pleasure,Bro.... www.ghafla.co.ke/news/tv/item/24749-cabu-gah-diaries-today-i-met-tony-mochama-i-was-afraid-he-would-sexually-molest-me-but-he-didnt-here-is-the-story-regarding-his-rape-allegations |
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2014 19:35:49 GMT 3
First I had read this:
And later in the Nairobi-Star it was indeed confirmed Mochama had at first denied his presence there.
When people start lying about absence at a place there were so many witness people, one knows one has entered a soap; therefore, if one has the time, one just has to sit baaack, and enjoy the subsequent amusing episodes.
–-The stand by your man public act of the devoted wife; the various grades of loyalty to a friendship on display; the fear of losing reputations as sustaining a lie in public becomes untenable; the other insinuations as to possible motives –-the petty squabbles between artists. On and on.
I still have no idea of the blow-by-blow account of the events Mr. Mochama performed/perpetrated which constitute ''sexual assault'' or ''molestation'' as is howled all over the place. But when it comes to court, I can see Mochama's lawyer with a wolfish tongue on the cross examination, insinuating that, from the smashing looks of Mrs. Mochama, a scarecrow like Shailja must be out of her mind, fantasising Tony would have the stiffs for her, dead drunk or sober. That may be it was Patel coming on too strong, and Poor Tony was but defending his honour; and the drunken guests, half wits by then, fell for the face-saving act of the rebuffed Asian, turning the tables on Chaste Tony.
When you are a judge and you are dealing with the testimonies of manipulative drunks whose business is creative fiction, anything can go. So, educated drunks whose versions of the same event are as far apart as Venus and Mar, in between shall be a planet load of soap!
NB: This is an elite scandal. Lower down the social ladder, you bet during Nairobi show for instance, when various military units camp around town, they just swoop the streets and collect women for gang service in their tents. The nation of Kenya pretends she does not know such.
Too painful to be soap.
So let us enjoy this light touch drama. Real awful stuff Kenyan women undergo in their country is outside the scope of viral threads on facebook.
NB: The TJRC report. Buried, no?
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2014 19:52:56 GMT 3
B6k: O yeah! this is getting dangerous. Suppose Tony Mochama is right. It would mean Dr. Mwangi is a loose lunatic. And Patel sycopathic liar.
But, if Tony is still in denial, possibly under total AMNESIA since he was dead drunk at that time, then he becomes the split personality type, Jekyll and Hyde. Drunk Tony existing totally independent of Sober Tony. A monster.
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Post by OtishOtish on Oct 3, 2014 21:05:34 GMT 3
Meanwhile ....somewhere "much lower Down On The Whatever Scale, far from the Salons of Spring Valley (poems, wine, little food on little sticks, "daaahling!") ...some real and very hard realities in the Real World Of Hard Realities: "Who will come to our rescue?"Nation article to read: www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/Living/WATER-FOR-SEX-AWASI-AIDS-STDS/-/1218/2360096/-/wyfmk1/-/index.htmlShort video to watch: Perhaps when The Bum & The Poet is over and done with? (And that one is a matter of great urgency, because the sky is obviously falling down.) "Who will come to our rescue?" |
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 3, 2014 23:20:31 GMT 3
Meanwhile ....somewhere "much lower Down On The Whatever Scale, far from the Salons of Spring Valley (poems, wine, little food on little sticks, "daaahling!") ...some real and very hard realities in the Real World Of Hard Realities: "Who will come to our rescue?"Nation article to read: www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/Living/WATER-FOR-SEX-AWASI-AIDS-STDS/-/1218/2360096/-/wyfmk1/-/index.htmlShort video to watch: Perhaps when The Bum & The Poet is over and done with? (And that one is a matter of great urgency, because the sky is obviously falling down.) "Who will come to our rescue?" Otishotish, I am lifting this to footnote Miguna in the caliphate thread. --While Agwambo was dancing far away! |
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Post by dineo on Oct 4, 2014 5:56:29 GMT 3
My God.
What did I just read???
That CABU GAH (what the hell does that mean??) Mochama interview has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. My God.
It should remain online for posterity because... everything about it... just beggars belief. My God.
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Post by OtishOtish on Oct 4, 2014 7:00:04 GMT 3
My God. What did I just read??? That CABU GAH (what the hell does that mean??) Mochama interview has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. My God. It should remain online for posterity because... everything about it... just beggars belief. My God. It all depends on one's viewpoint. As a parent of young kids, I find it quite "familiar": The school my kids go to has this radio-station thing that they let the kids fool around with as part of their "current affairs"/"social studies" education. The kids will frequently interview each other on "current affairs", and, from what I have listened to, CABU GAH & Guest would fit in very well at the station. |
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Post by Luol Deng on Oct 4, 2014 9:32:46 GMT 3
dineo,
Cabu Gah is a columnist in the Ghafla gossip site, a cyberspace rag. The last things you would expect from such sites are intelligent questions. Obviously his 'interview' and another one Robert Alai carried out were biased towards proving Mochama's innocence. We've seen other commentators who are convinced of Tony Mochama's guilt yet they were not there in the first place. The fact that they purport to be human rights activists and the accused is a drunk doesn't mean that they will definitely be truthful and the accused will be a liar.
It is precisely with this in mind that we have to hear from the system. Both the accused and the victim have their witnesses. From a profile of Mochama's witnesses, they are reliable & upstanding members of the society, not drunken yobs as one would expect. The victim also has her own witnesses. Otherwise, with the way this episode is being handled by both sides, I will start treating it as a comedy.
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Post by jakaswanga on Oct 4, 2014 9:53:12 GMT 3
Dineo, Otishotish, Luoldeng,
come on you snobs. You fellas really think the following question is kindargarten?
KABUGA: Did You rape her? Undress her? Grab her ass?? What EXACTLY are they saying You did??
That is what we call truth-digging. Fact-finding. What ''exactly'' happened? --Is that not a gem in whole tonne of rubble? the key to the whole mystery!
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Post by dineo on Oct 4, 2014 19:58:24 GMT 3
Thank you for clarifying that the article was from an online rag.
If anything, Mochama made himself look even more ridiculous, prejudiced against a slew of people and the causes they represent, as well as utterly, utterly ignorant.
Naye huyo bibi wake Sharon sijui ataificha wapi sura yake. Yaonekana kwamba habari hizo kuhusu Shailja zilikuwa pigo kubwa kwake so much so that her response was that her husband does not "need" to assault anyone. Some women really put our gender in reverse gear... For her, the alleged assault is not about her possible molester husband, but rather about kukana that she (Sharon) might not be enough for him sexually.
Aii, tafash.
Well, I wish Shailja well wherever she is.
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Post by mank on Oct 4, 2014 22:15:36 GMT 3
Dineo, Otishotish, Luoldeng, come on you snobs. You fellas really think the following question is kindargarten? KABUGA: Did You rape her? Undress her? Grab her ass?? What EXACTLY are they saying You did??That is what we call truth-digging. Fact-finding. What ''exactly'' happened? --Is that not a gem in whole tonne of rubble? the key to the whole mystery! Amigo, I would add at least one more question... "and what's your version of what happened between you two?" .. oh, you said it after all ... but better get it from him ... not to infer. |
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Post by mank on Oct 4, 2014 22:32:38 GMT 3
Meanwhile ....somewhere "much lower Down On The Whatever Scale, far from the Salons of Spring Valley (poems, wine, little food on little sticks, "daaahling!") ...some real and very hard realities in the Real World Of Hard Realities: "Who will come to our rescue?"Nation article to read: www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/Living/WATER-FOR-SEX-AWASI-AIDS-STDS/-/1218/2360096/-/wyfmk1/-/index.htmlShort video to watch: Perhaps when The Bum & The Poet is over and done with? (And that one is a matter of great urgency, because the sky is obviously falling down.) "Who will come to our rescue?" Otishotish, I am lifting this to footnote Miguna in the caliphate thread. --While Agwambo was dancing far away! People should never have to live with this in a nation that calls itself a democracy. I would understand if this was about a market for cocaine. But for water? Jameni! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 3:40:21 GMT 3
Calling all you MANSPLAINERS. Take heed!  |
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Post by patriotism101 on Oct 5, 2014 8:40:12 GMT 3
There is something fundamentally awkward when a married person visits "friends" of the opposite sex and stays the whole night..... "And we sat there till Morning..Just talking. And the room had around 12 People! 12 people!!" So 12 people-some married others single- I am assuming there were more singles than married and no one came with their spouses- i.e no swingers- decided to have Kesha over beers-maybe whisky, chicken wings and mbuzi. Gender mix/sexual orientation and diversity of thought and "talk" by the group members, I would imagine, would put to shame any of those orgy parties Nairobians post on craigslist. But I digress....so what happened? Did he use his finger in appropriately? Did he give her a wrap around and tried to feel the roots of her boobs? As a night bus driver from Nairobi to Mombasa "knowledge of X..canal by the index finger" was a common complaint- especially due to mis-communication, lack of sleep and room . While it is not my intention to trivialize the subject at hand, I think it is important for the victim to describe exactly what the perpetrator did, the timeline of the events, the witnesses and her action after the assault.
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Post by b6k on Oct 5, 2014 12:54:29 GMT 3
Meanwhile ....somewhere "much lower Down On The Whatever Scale, far from the Salons of Spring Valley (poems, wine, little food on little sticks, "daaahling!") ...some real and very hard realities in the Real World Of Hard Realities: "Who will come to our rescue?"Nation article to read: www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/Living/WATER-FOR-SEX-AWASI-AIDS-STDS/-/1218/2360096/-/wyfmk1/-/index.htmlShort video to watch: Perhaps when The Bum & The Poet is over and done with? (And that one is a matter of great urgency, because the sky is obviously falling down.) "Who will come to our rescue?" Awasi? This is like comparing apples & groundnuts. What were CDF funds for, or better yet where are the measly devolved funds going to? Someday some folks will have no one left to blame for their predicaments than themselves. Maybe then they'll take up introspection as a past time... |
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Post by b6k on Oct 5, 2014 13:31:11 GMT 3
My God. What did I just read??? That CABU GAH (what the hell does that mean??) Mochama interview has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. My God. It should remain online for posterity because... everything about it... just beggars belief. My God. Cabu Gah = Kabuga? Well, who knows. But rather than attacking Mochama’s self defence maybe there are other lessons you could've taken from the whole saga. OO says this is a thread about SEXUAL ASSAULT? Maybe. Another way to look at it is that this is a thread committed to taking down a guy who may (or may not) be guilty of the said crime. As Jakaswanga has noted the level of Mochama's inebriation leaves the door wide open to the possibility of some kind of assault having taken place. Given that Mochama did have witnesses who corroborate that there was no physical assault, I'm open to the possibility, going by his intoxication levels, that there's a likelihood that a verbal altercation could've been the source of the "assault". Unfortunately for Mochama in Kenyatoday, sexual offenses can be physical, verbal or both. I hope he has a good lawyer... Another interesting angle you may have overlooked is Mochama’s charge that Shailja (& her pal Wambui who led the social media Sanhedrin) is an "NGO person". Coming quick on the heels of other high profile NGO allegations gone wrong at the ICC I would hope one would see that maybe it's high time that sector was overhauled. Maybe we have a case of a sector that's become contaminated by "inbreeding" of thoughts by individuals who forgetting the log in their eye are quick to point out specks in others. When a group starts believing its own lies it may be time for change...or introspection. The charge of sexual assault is a very serious charge to put out there. Wambui was clearly going for Mochama’s jugular by sending tweets to his employer and financial support systems. So far it seems they're standing behind him. This may or may not change as more facts come out, but once again, should someone be hanged to dry before the veracity of the charges are out, or better yet gleaned over by the authorities (police, courts & all) who Shailja wanted to avoid in the first place. Is it just to destroy someone's livelihood by innuendo alone in the court of public opinion? In conclusion, feminists need to realize that they shoot themselves in the foot when they lump all men, who really ought to be their best supporters, in one amoral group. To quote Ghandi, "you must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is like an ocean. If a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty". So when feminists condemn, men, half of their footsoldiers to oblivion by virtue of their being men (as they no doubt condemn the great majority of women who live & let live, as being sellouts to patriarchy) I often wonder how they realistically hope to achieve their goal. Just as there are some bad men out there, there are some bad women too... |
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Post by b6k on Oct 5, 2014 13:35:00 GMT 3
dineo, Cabu Gah is a columnist in the Ghafla gossip site, a cyberspace rag. The last things you would expect from such sites are intelligent questions. Obviously his 'interview' and another one Robert Alai carried out were biased towards proving Mochama's innocence. We've seen other commentators who are convinced of Tony Mochama's guilt yet they were not there in the first place. The fact that they purport to be human rights activists and the accused is a drunk doesn't mean that they will definitely be truthful and the accused will be a liar. It is precisely with this in mind that we have to hear from the system. Both the accused and the victim have their witnesses. From a profile of Mochama's witnesses, they are reliable & upstanding members of the society, not drunken yobs as one would expect. The victim also has her own witnesses. Otherwise, with the way this episode is being handled by both sides, I will start treating it as a comedy. Luol Deng, I totally agree. For such an objective person you still haven't explained why you have zero respect for Muthoni Wanyeki... |
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